A very quick post from me this morning as I am heading in for my first game of the MIKEL ARTETA ERA GET IN CAN’T WAIT WOOO #1 FAN OVER HERE WITH THE A4 BANNER SAYING #ARTETAIN!
I have no idea what to expect. The manager is dealing with something of an injury crisis, we could be missing a lot of players today. Tierney, Kola and Sokratis are certainly out. There are also doubts over Gabriel, Holding, Ceballos and Hector… there also might be questions over whether Xhaka plays if his mind is on the Hertha Berlin move.
The players he did have ready trained on the pitch yesterday. I like that. For no reason. If Emery had done it I’d have lodged a complaint with the local council, Arteta does it, I find it the sort of elite thinking a progressive young coach should be showcasing.
Chelsea are in a bit of a mess at the moment. They followed up a super defeat of Spurs with a shocking show against lowly Southampton. Some of their fans are predictably on his back, but I think the bleating will be ignored, Chelsea are building up with kids and shit performances are part of the deal there.
Arteta spoke about getting his players to think quicker and work harder off the ball. We saw a taste of that against Bournemouth, today, I hope that continues. I’m looking to see good structure, I’m hoping that against a really good counter-attacking team, we can concentrate, and I’m hoping the players put it in until the very end. Wouldn’t it be great to see us pressing for a second game in a row? I’m living for it.
I think we’re up against it today, it’s going to be hard to extract anything from the game, but at the moment, I’m just looking for progress as we build to a brighter future. A win would be exciting though, can’t say it hasn’t passed my mind.
It’s absolutely freezing out, so if you’re going, wrap up warm and hope the football on show gives us an added boost of warmth.
Right, that’s me out, see you at the game. xx
The double training stuff was never proven beyond preseason. We’ll just add it to the pile of lies you’ve accumulated over the years right next to Steve Rowley back at Arsenal.
It’s truly amazing though I never seen those complaints on training and subsequent injuries under Wenger. Weird that
“And Charles backs him up, he is one of the good guys. Never seen an adult with such a playground mentality“
I’ve made no comment on how we are physically, I’ve only dismissed absurd rebuttals about how physical fitness and performance is nurtured. Keep up.
Have to say luiz on his day is quality.
Ashame he is so inconsistent from world class to sunday league from game to game.
What is the correct dosage of training Valentin do tell.
How come you know the correct level of training yet you are reduced to sharing your expertise on le grove while others are actually working in the field
Pro athletes that’s what footballers are. Not desk workers called together to face Chelsea.
Your throwing in the Ramsey nonsense is shameless
Ramsey has broken down countless times at Arsenal and now at Juventus. Apparently it’s still Emery’s fault. He was a crock before emery and remains one till date
Is your baap going to buy these players you silly bhenchode
Any hint of criticism of Emery and you are straight in throwing insults and bringing Wenger in the discussion.
No it’s not that it’s your lies and consistency that gets me. You’re a hypocrite to boot
Receding,
Last summer our conditioning specialist was fired by the club despite being overruled by an external person brought by Emery himself.
That external conditioning specialist brought by Emery was then subsequently let go (I believe it was in October) so clearly even Emery was not happy about him.
So there are reasons to believe that this team was improperly conditioned. Within the next two weeks we will start hearing stories about players not being fit enough to play Arteta’s demanding football for 90 minutes.
Got to give Arteta time massively let down by several players today, Comfortable 82 mins same old Arsenal.
No winnable game until 16th Feb Home to Newcastle, have to hope for a few draws along the way, to avoid dropping into bottom three, have massive 6 pointers among them.
Cannot watch United game, not angry about today, just hugely disappointed about individual errors. Make no mistake we are in the relegation battle, and must adjust our game plans accordingly.
Never thought we would be struggling to reach the magic 40 points
Arteta needs to drill the art of tactical fouling into the team.
Mustafi didn’t have a a yellow card so why didn’t he take one for the team.
@TR7 After we played against Chelsea away and lost 3 – 2, many Arsenal fans rightly felt it was a game that we didn’t deserve to lose. There was renewed optimism around the team and then they went on that unbeaten, albeit unconvincing, run. Even then, there were clear signs that our players were struggling as a result of the physical demands of the game. Didn’t Emery try to get them to press? How long did that last? I know there’ll be marginal improvements under Arteta but it will have more to do with new manager bounce and players wanting… Read more »
Fatty with a dodgy hair…lol now we are down to burrowing insults off Un na nai.
How low can you sink on here Charles?
Anonymity is no excuse for bad behavior.
And no I am not fat nor is a receeding hairline a cause for shame, it’s genetics.
Grow up man you are shaming yourself on here
Calm down everyone, we’re gonna smash United 4 0, laca hat trick. Cool your jets the Arteta factor is about to land…and it’s gonna be massive.👍🍺👊🏿
Valentin
“Last summer our conditioning specialist was fired by the club despite being overruled by an external person brought by Emery himself.’
You aren’t privy to confidential personnel decisions being made at Arsenal.
Just stop this nonsense.
You don’t know why he was let go.
Hard work should be left to stoke f.c,
we need a minimum 2 very technical players to control the tempo so that we dont keep chasing the ball
It will solve most of the problems. If the are athletic it will be a plus.
Im telling you this for free!
Although there were some positives to be taken from today’s game, we have to be honest with ourselves, we are in a shite position. Forget top 4. Forget even top 8. As it stands we will struggle to make top 10 and unless major changes are afoot, we could find ourselves in a relegation dogfight. Our shape in the first 45 minutes was excellent but in the second half we struggled physically and mentally and paid the price for a horrendous lapse in concentration from Leno. I personally don’t think Leno is good enough. His distribution is far too slow… Read more »
Conditioning isn’t our problem Valentin.
Enough with that already.
All these excuses.
70% of the players playing for this football club aren’t fit for purpose one way or the other. You can condition them all you like.
Arteta will make changes to this squad, wholesale changes
Receding
Oh shit up you colossal fanny, this “bad behaviour” talk because I mock your moniker?
You must’ve been bullied.
“Im telling you this for free!”
I love this guy already.
I smell snake oil salesmanship every time I read that.
wattsy
Comfortable 82 mins…
28 minutes. There, I fixed your typo.
Guernsey gun
You’re killing me, man. Some people on here don’t understand sarcasm, I’m afraid.
Dozi should be playing of the bench and he’s not ready for CM he’s better of at number 10, problem is we have no other player to play CM, an injury to Torr is likely because of amount of games he is playing now, thats when all hell will break loose.
Wake up folks we are getting dragged into a relegation scrap. Some poncy fuck kunckles on here scoff at that, but we are straight up in relegation form. But hey we ran around a lot, our wing backs tucked in……and we got 1 point from Bournemouth away and a Chelsea team that just got gobbed 2 0 at home by a team below us.
40 years watching arsenal this is dark times, but be excited folks cebaillos is coming back….oh happy days.😂👍👋🏿
Lol Valentin now borrowing un na nai insults too to make a point.
How nice.
The only idiot on here is one who talks with so much authority on things he knows nothing about.
I didn’t get angry at Don, I simply told him shaming someone for being fat is immature. And calling someone whose moniker is receding hairline baldy in an attempt to insult him is plain stupid.
If I cared about my hair I won’t pick it as a moniker.
Dissenter, The fact that Emery brought his own conditioning and that he excluded the Arsenal conditioning team from his training sessions was public knowledge. In fact it was initially mentioned by Emery as proof that Arsenal was moving on from the Wenger’s era. 4 months later, there was loud rumours about the extraneous training sessions. After the Baku debacle, the club did a review of what went wrong. One of the conclusion reached by that review led by Emery was that the Dean Burgess the director of high performance should be let go. That increased the influence of Shad Forsyth.… Read more »
@ Rodney Player poverty is nothing new here Wilshere, Walcott, Bendtner, Denilson were not world beaters. Bur we have always had CL football with them. The issue is that we were lucky for a long time as it was the outlier, not the norm The thing is that Stan Kronke has not provided funds to the club to buy players. We are still on that self sustainable model nonsense. Anyone think Liverpool, Manure, Chelsea or City would win trophies on a self sustainable model? Look no further that Everton. They hired a proper manager and will support him in the… Read more »
Sid I’ve told this lot about the art of letting the ball do the work , but they dont quite get it. Technicians are exactly what we need in midfield . Look at Ozil in that first half , who is the master at letting the ball do the work , dummies, flicks , feints, slide rule passes. He was a joy to behold The opposition again had to change their formation to negate Ozil’s influence on the game and this where Arteta failed to react. He should have changed his position to give him more chance of getting on… Read more »
Anyone know how our xG looked in the 2nd half?
Graham I personally don’t think Leno is good enough. His distribution is far too slow and ponderous and his vocal command of the back line is nonexistent. Martinez should be given a chance. God bless you sir. Arsenal VS Bourne mouth, last minute, a Bourne mouth player intercepted Leno from kicking out the ball, referee duly booked the guy and gave us a free kick. What did Leno do next? Passed the ball to the defender beside him. For those that are deceives Leno is mint because of his few world class saves, we must know a top. Lass goalkeeper… Read more »
Jamie
Not good I would imagine , I saw at one stage it was ten shots to one in their favour in the 2nd half.
First half i saw it was 5 to 2 in our favour
Valentin
You don’t think it’s possible that Burgess was let go because of a duplication of roles with Shad Forsythe. The physio situation looked top-heavy so it wasn’t unexpected.
You simply don’t know but to start throwing out number like you’re doing now is undignifying
Graham I personally don’t think Leno is good enough. His distribution is far too slow and ponderous and his vocal command of the back line is nonexistent. Martinez should be given a chance. God bless you sir. Arsenal vs Bournemouth, last minute, a Bournemouth player intercepted Leno from kicking out the ball to start a final attack, referee duly booked the guy and gave us a free kick. What did Leno do next? Passed the ball to the defender beside him. For those that are deceived Leno is mint because of his few world class saves, we must know a… Read more »
Just a small comment on the fitness / training debate etc.
It was widely reported that the Poch used to have the Spud’s doing really tough training including double sessions.
What Emery did or didn’t do is irrelevant – he’s gone now.
It’s all about where we are now, the players we have now, players we might manage to bring in in Jan and what Arteta can do.
Receding
“Conditioning isn’t our problem Valentin.”
Do you need conditioner.
Thorough, I don’t think that Leno is a great goalkeeper. He is a decent shot stopper, but can’t distribute quickly the ball both with his feet or his hands. He is also not vocal enough to properly organise the defense. I said when we bought him that we should have gone for Alban Lafond for half the price. He lost his place in the German international team due to his regular howler. He made less than during his last year in Germany, but still too many. Even the so called world class saves are saves that any goalkeepers playing at… Read more »
Leno is not and never will be a keeper that dominates his area.
Earlier in the game a Chelsea striker had a header from about 6 yards out that luckily went straight at Leno….he’s reluctant to leave his line , maybe today we found out why.
And our most important need now may actually be a goal scoring box to box midfielder. In two consecutive games I’ve seen Willock lose us points. His tame shot against Bournemouth and today he couldn’t even get it on target when he had all the time in the world. At 2-0 up I’m not sure Chelsea would have recovered.
Pierre
“should have changed his position to give him more chance of getting on the ball, instead he left him in a congested area and consequently was starved of the ball.”
Where do you think Arteta should have put Ozil?
Still a decent keeper, though I would rather have someone who will take the pressure off the defence by coming for crosses.
Marc,
Pochettino also used to rotate players a lot more. He also used to forgo all the other domestic competitions giving his players extra rest. Being eliminated on the first round of both domestic Cups.
Two years ago, Spurs was the only premiership team who did not suffer a single long term muscle injury during the entire season.
It is just a question of both the coaching team and the conditioning team working together and not being afraid of benching a player if there is a risk of injury. Prevention is always more effective treatment.
No thanks Pierre I don’t need a conditioner.
Neither for my hair or my stamina.
That was pretty funny though
Shit….just as we get the Arteta bounce we realize our keeper is a clueless German clown on shrooms. Got help us. In Arteta we trust.👍🖕🏿🍺👊🏿
Lafont
A 20 year old goalkeeper that was loaned to nantes this season..that one?
@MGooner Player poverty (this is the last time I’ll mention it, lol) has always been a thing at Arsenal. A necessary fallout of the stadium move.
Times have changed though. The league has gotten more competitive. There are now 6 teams challenging for top 4 places. And with the likes of Leicester and Wolves making a case for themselves, it’s is no longer as straightforward as it once was.
The backpass I would have told him to play deeper and come towards the ball . We were outnumbered in the midfield area and needed someone who could link the play as they were pressing high. The 2nd half we had too many passengers in Ozil, Aubameyang and Nelson . Torreira, Guendouzi and Lacazette battled well, but they dont have the necessary quality to avoid the high press. To be honest, when Ozil went off I thought willock improved things as he was playing a little deeper and we started to get a little joy, however their first goal killed… Read more »
Now all the saves Leno has been making all season are being downplayed because he made an error in a game.
You really are a very vindictive person Valentin. Very malicious too. Very petty.
Would really hate to know you in person.
Fitness levels of our squad not high enough.
Started to fade on 45. Gassed out to empty near 70 mins. That has to improve if we are to start hitting elite levels
Have to say , it was concerning how we ran out of steam so early in the game.
If Arteta agreed to come in without being promised January reinforcements then I’m afraid we are f””””d. He cant be too ambitious if he took on a job with this bunch of gutless chokers. All they are good for is mouthing off the same bullshit excuses and promises endlessly in the media.
Brixton
Agree – it’s also nice that someone can make an observation / comment without it having some kind back story – of course other than wanting Arsenal to do well!
Backpass,
That is the one.
Fiorentina lost their main goalkeeper and decided that Drawgoski was not yet ready so they needed a stop gap goalkeeper for a year. Lafont was excellent at Fiorentina last season. However they had already promised the top Jersey this season to Dragowski. As Lafont did not want to go back to be an understudy. They agreed to let him go on loan to Nantes. He is one of the reason why Nantes is having such a great season (currently 5th despite having a poor attack with only 3 teams with a worse attacking record).
Our next 5 PL fixtures:
ManU – H
Palace – A
Sheffield Utd – H
Chelsea – A
Burnley – A
Arteta’s seriously got his work cut out.
Pierre
I dont think that will work,because Ozil was getting easily dispossed high up the pitch, imagine him close to our box and getting dispossed. I dont think that would have worked.
“To be honest, when Ozil went off I thought willock improved things as he was playing a little deeper and we started to get a little joy, however their first goal killed us and then we went into panic mode.”
Yeah, except Willock was constantly losing the ball and making wrong passes.
Tony Adams as this to say on artera ‘Steve Bould told me during his five years at Arsenal and he spent most of his time with the technical analysts looking at players,’ said the former Arsenal captain. ‘He’s more a coach than he is actually a player during those five years. ‘He’s totally obsessed with the game and if there’s a man who can do it… I’ve got to be a little bit positive here. ‘He’s very, very conscientious about the players and the staff he wants so hopefully he has a big say in who he wants to bring… Read more »
Valentin
There were lots of weakness in lafont’s game last season, admittedly, I haven’t watched him this season in France but i just dont think he can cut it in the EPL yet. Maybe in five years time
More I think about it, more depressed I am. We’ve been awful but I really didn’t want us to lose to the Chavs
The backpass
“I dont think that will work,because Ozil was getting easily dispossed high up the pitch, imagine him close to our box and getting dispossed. I dont think that would have worked”
You obviously watched a different game to me.
As you were
Lol Pierre
Yeah Ozil was dispossed at least thrice during the second half and that doesn’t mean he had a bad game.
Good to know you see what you want to see.
Receding, The stats that Leno is the goalkeeper who has made the greatest numbers of errors that directly lead to a goal in the top 5 European league cannot be washed out by but he make terrific saves. Before the world Cup, He lost his place in the German team exactly for that reason. When we bought him, I was one of the few who had doubt about him saying that even if he could curb the howler his distribution in general was poor. I made the comment about the 4 positions that need to be upgraded. Goalkeeper was in… Read more »
“Xhaka btw is the OUTFIELD player who has committed the most errors that lead directly to a goal in the top 5 European leagues.”
I’m not having that – that would imply he’s a complete fucking liability who would be out performed by a cardboard cut out.
Indebted to you Upstate Gooner apologies for my lack of education
Rapota..
It appears that
Pool
Spurs
Chelsea
City
Are the main benefactors of var and getting the decision
They won’t abandoned it , but they need to revise it that the manager can call for var to view a decision not the ref.
2 call per half for goals tackles corners offsides etc…
Backpass
At.least one of those he should have had a free kick ( maybe 2 ) ,but as we know, the ref was giving Chelsea a little helping hand and that’s putting it mildly.
It was actually similar to the Ropey League final how the players were completely tanked from an energy perspective in the final half hour against Chavs, after an encouraging tactical showing in the 1st half.
Thought amn is one player who will get better with one to one coaching…
Maybe you need to take up the AMN thing with Marko…. I don’t have a fixation on any Arsenal player as I consider 80% of them not good enough or suited for this league. Some both.
You are petty and vindictive because once you state an opinion on something you twist facts and tell outright lies to be proven right.
Leno half a reputation for those the type pf blunders he did today. That’s part of his constitution.
He’s been good for us and has been a bright spot in a dismal season. That said, his blunder today can’t just be washed away. He was not even under pressure. He was surrounded by four Arsenal players and lost track of the ball. It’s not even a case of punching it to a dangerous area…he missed is altogether.
Pierre
The ref was a fucking disgrace today. Guy sat next to me said he’d seen a stat that Chelsea made more fouls in the first half than any other team in a single half of a match for a decade.
The ref then manages to book Laca instead of showing a 2nd yellow to the guy who not only won the free kick that lead to the goal but was also the one who scored.
Receding,
You and Marko are the one who keep accusing people of lying when you disagree with other people opinion.
You are known for deliberately misconstruing what people wrote in order to score cheap points and starts arguments.
You rate Leno. I don’t. Let’s agree to disagree on that one.
We’ve had 3 games this season where we’ve looked good. 2 under Emery (Tottenham 2nd half and Leicester late first half and early second half) and 1 under Arteta (1st half gainst Chelsea).
If Arteta can take the positives in today’s game and improve on them we may be headed somewhere. We actually looked a proper team in patches. If Laca and/or Willock had scored their chances we prolly would have been celebrating 3 points now. Even Ozil and AMN looked like they knew what they were doing.
I’ve just become an AKB.
Marc
Were you one those fair weather “fans” who walked out in the 85th minute?
BTW, the free-kick that the referee gave against Lacazette should not have been a free-kick because the ball was already out when the contact with Lacazette took place. And according to the laws of the game a free kick or penalty cannot be given when the ball is not in play.
Hence cards can be given to defenders before a corner take place without the referee having to indicate a penalty.
Diss
Agreed
That looks pretty shite on the box more empty seats than a cargo plane…
Dissenter,
To be fair,
There was some transport issues around the stadium. If you travel on a cold day and see a collapse like that, you may not want to stick around and be stuck with Chelsea fans for the next 30 minutes on your way home.
Val
That’s what I’m saying about var, take it away from the ref and give to the players n manager. Two decisions pe4 Hal& for trivial things like that .
The walking out thing didn’t look good at all. Told most of you wins and not improved performances is what will get the fans onside. I got upset watching them walkout. In one of the shots one guy was even being restrained from leaving by someone sitting down but he left anyway .
Marc “Our next 5 PL fixtures:” The problem is that you can’t look at a single fixture now and see it as anything other than a tough battle to win points, with recent precedent of us being overturned by the team. Can’t remember that being the case for our club for a long, long time. What we need is to get a couple of wins on the board in the next month so that we can confidently assess that we won’t be relegated, and then the manager can experiment more and get rookie mistakes out of his system over the… Read more »
To a degree the game reminded me of a 3rd round FA cup game where the plucky underdogs are the better team for most of the game but when that extra quality kicks in then the first 80 odd minutes become irrelevant
Far far too many of the Arsenal players look ok technically but they struggle to concentrate for the full game
Lampard had the ability to change things , he had the resources but very very few of that Arasenal team are good enough
Dissenter
No as always I stay to the bitter end.
Elmo
It’s not looking pretty is it!
Marc
You agree that it’s best we have no Europe football next season…
Me thinks best thing we can give art for next season.
One step back 3 forward…
Keeper on now… boom
Marc
This has been going on since old trafford all them years ago .
Today was a joke, he gave a card for our first foul whilst allowing Chelsea to foul with impunity and it continued throughout the game.
The thing is , sky BT or the media only bring it up whenever Arsenal, on the rare occasion, get a decision in our favour.
RSPC
As I said the other day I’m not sure we can afford the loss of revenue. We’re already losing money but as it stands I don’t think it’s a case of what we want it’s a case of what will be.
The ref was a fucking disgrace today.
Enough of this BS already. The ref also didn’t give Guendouzi his well deserved second yellow and a subsequent penalty earlier in the game. Chelsea outplayed us, and Lampard outmanaged Arteta who was very conservative after the first half hour or so, as well as with his substitutions.
Marc
“The ref was a fucking disgrace today. Guy sat next to me said he’d seen a stat that Chelsea made more fouls in the first half than any other team in a single half of a match for a decade. ”
Even city committed 24 fouls 2 weeks ago at the Emirates and nothing is said .
The average is about 10/12 fouls a game…
If Arteta can get us playing like we did during the first half consistently, we’ll be fine.
The worry is how quickly the players looked gassed, and how a couple of Lampard tweaks undid our game plan.
Lots of positives, same negatives.
Guendouzi, Laca, and Nelson were our most wasteful players today. Fair play to the rest of the squad.
Onwards and upwards. We desperately need a win on the board. Makes it so much easier for the players to buy into Arteta’s style.
I see that a lot of people (easily the majority) on here were fully expecting a better result. And that is because you had expectations over and above what reality could afford. But now you’re all having to dial down these “hopes” because we are still in many ways exactly the same. Man U will be all over us on Wednesday and we seem to have this inexorable ability to bring the best out of the opposition. I’ve never quite worked out why that is. It’s been with us since Wenger times and on it continues to this day. Of… Read more »
Spudnik
If you don’t like what Pedro has to say don’t come on here or at least make constructive criticism. Winding him up so he bans you isn’t big or clever it’s childish.
Ffs….
“Sauce”, my arse.
Spudnik
He should never had been IN in the first place
2nd half , nelson flying down the right wing, beats a couple of players and then gets taken out right in front of the lino…nothing , sweet f all.
Jamie
The worry is how quickly the players looked gassed, and how a couple of Lampard tweaks undid our game plan.
Indeed.
Marc
Stand on me we will be fine with out Europe..
Jeff
Some very good points in your last post
Lampard only made one change and Chelsea controlled the game from then on.
Arteta didn’t counter that change. He lost the battle of the coaches today. He will learn from that.
Upstate
Chelsea scored from 2 very basic errors from our players. One by Leno and the other when both Mustafi and Luiz both backed off an advancing attacker when one should have at attempted a challenge.
As for a Chelsea penalty I’ll need to see the highlights but I don’t remember a case of them being denied one.
Pierre, Marc, Until Arsenal as a football club continually makes the point during press conference that it is not treated fairly, nothing will be done. In France PSG and Marseilles used to be treated very favourably by the referees. Then Aulas the Lyon chairman started a public campaign of systematically complain about any slight injustice. It became a running joke, but it had its effect. Newspaper were reporting the injustice and pundits discussed the decisions. Now Lyon has referee with a very light touch. Referees know that any incorrect decision against Lyon will be noted and discussed so now they… Read more »
Did they report what injury Chambers had picked up?
Nelson wasn’t taken out. That wasn’t a foul.
Guendouzi should have been sent off in the first half with a penalty to boot if the referee union was really out to get us.
Yes on another day Jorginho sees a second yellow but such decisions aren’t set in stone.
Let’s move on from the referee conspiracy theory
Next season
Martinez
Amn. Saliba chambers tiernay ( for 10 games)
Toor new dm
Nelson. Ozil Saka
Tj or Eddie..
“Arteta didn’t counter that change. He lost the battle of the coaches today. He will learn from that.”
@Receding : did he not learned enough alongside the great Pep to be able to win that battle today ?? This LegoMan is a joke, really….