ARTETA SECOND DEBUT CAN’T WAIT

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A very quick post from me this morning as I am heading in for my first game of the MIKEL ARTETA ERA GET IN CAN’T WAIT WOOO #1 FAN OVER HERE WITH THE A4 BANNER SAYING #ARTETAIN!

I have no idea what to expect. The manager is dealing with something of an injury crisis, we could be missing a lot of players today. Tierney, Kola and Sokratis are certainly out. There are also doubts over Gabriel, Holding, Ceballos and Hector… there also might be questions over whether Xhaka plays if his mind is on the Hertha Berlin move.

The players he did have ready trained on the pitch yesterday. I like that. For no reason. If Emery had done it I’d have lodged a complaint with the local council, Arteta does it, I find it the sort of elite thinking a progressive young coach should be showcasing.

Chelsea are in a bit of a mess at the moment. They followed up a super defeat of Spurs with a shocking show against lowly Southampton. Some of their fans are predictably on his back, but I think the bleating will be ignored, Chelsea are building up with kids and shit performances are part of the deal there.

Arteta spoke about getting his players to think quicker and work harder off the ball. We saw a taste of that against Bournemouth, today, I hope that continues. I’m looking to see good structure, I’m hoping that against a really good counter-attacking team, we can concentrate, and I’m hoping the players put it in until the very end. Wouldn’t it be great to see us pressing for a second game in a row? I’m living for it.

I think we’re up against it today, it’s going to be hard to extract anything from the game, but at the moment, I’m just looking for progress as we build to a brighter future. A win would be exciting though, can’t say it hasn’t passed my mind.

It’s absolutely freezing out, so if you’re going, wrap up warm and hope the football on show gives us an added boost of warmth.

Right, that’s me out, see you at the game. xx

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Dissenter

*One is an established player

Black Snake

Dont get what Willock brings to the team. If he had buried that chance it wouldve been game over

Cesc Appeal

ES

I agree.

I’m talking about the abundance of people who said this was a top 4 side held back by Emery and are now slowly trying to creep away from that dog turd position hoping no one notices.

TR7

David Luiz on Arteta: “I think he will become one of the best coaches in the world.”

Receding Hairline

Emirates Cesc appeal wants you to define we for a reason.

Some posters on here have been taking about this squad of players and their limitations for long now, it has attracted nothing but abuse.

WengerEagle

‘Dont get what Willock brings to the team.’

English grit and pashooon. Fuck all tangible from a footballing perspective.

Cesc Appeal

ES

I think exactly as you’ve said ‘not fit for purpose’.

Purpose being competing in the EPL which requires athleticism, physicality, desire, tenacity and character.

You can count on one hand the players who have that in this squad.

Cesc Appeal

Wolves having a good go at this.

Really likable side.

Dissenter

TR7
Why are you recycling the routine complimentary stuff players say about their current coaches?
These same players said nice things about Emery and still didn’t perform for him.
It’s cringe worthy, this PR exercise you’re running.

Emiratesstroller

Spanishdave

I don’t think that it would have made a jot difference whoever Arteta had brought on as sub. Let’s face it we subbed three players and frankly you would have needed to sub most of the other players as well in the second half.

We are a piss poor side with far too many unintelligent, inexperienced and average to bad players.

Receding Hairline

Guendouzi has become shockingly poor though. But he is a kid. His confidence and arrogance has left him but he can still come good. Maybe a loan outside England will help.

Batistuta

Eagle

Same with Nelson, runs around a lot, occasionally beats his man but every other thing is just bad

Cesc Appeal

‘We are a piss poor side with far too many unintelligent, inexperienced and average to bad players’

How fucking dare you.

Have you not been following the narrative around here.

Just see yourself out.

Champagne charlie

Tr7

Yea but what does Thierry Henry to say?

Dissenter

if Arteta believes the hype of what his players say about him, then he wasn’t be that good.
Players blowing smoke up his arse should concern him. He needs them to show up for him and do their talking on the field.

Batistuta

Our options in CB are

Luiz( good ish)
Sokratis- horrible
Holding- Can’t say yet
Chambers- Good squaddie
Mustafi- Just horrible
Mavropanos- Shit each time he’s managed to stay fit

That’s just bad really

Dissenter

*then he can’t be that good.

Receding Hairline

TR7 really don’t know what you aim to achieve with those quotes.

No one can sell Arteta more than Pedro. And the sale has been made. We are all mostly behind him. I for one couldn’t care less what any current member of our squads view is on arteta

James wood

Just how much has this VAR crap cost.?
Let the officials make the decisions.?
Someone has done very nicely out of this fiasco.?
Just get the the VAR official right once and these big
Far Eastern betting syndicates will make hay.?

Cesc Appeal

Can tell when the scouse fuckers are getting desperate howling for everything.

Batistuta

Emirates

The last line from your post is a hard reality a huge number of the Arsenal fan base have failed to realize

Spanishdave

Emiratestroller
Yes you are right , but we need more attacking through the middle.
Our so called wingers can’t cut in or cut back and we do not have guys who can get on the end of crosses
Our squad is poor quality though, big job to sort out.

Dissenter

I remember when when Mavropanos was a top talent that was being ruined by Emery.

I remember… I remember…I remember when Mavros was the top talent being ruined.

Receding Hairline

Thierry Henry is now an enemy of the club because he has high standards and his idea of what improvement entails differs from that of the footballing sages on here.

Yes Thierry Henry, arsenals leading goal scorer, multiple league winner and champions league winner with Barcelona.

Marko

Xhaka is not in the same league as Tousart

Hertha Berlin would disagree with you. Tousart is first choice for them

Cesc Appeal

Wolves have had so many chances!

MidwestGun

just think it was the wrong time to appoint a raw manager like Arteta. That’s it. _________________ We had not many choices… The team was tanking…hard and Freddie could not hold it together.. Joe you keep bashing people for what ifs. .. but you want to play the what if game with who we appointed as manager and the timing. We have who we have. I ‘m pretty sure you said anyone including your Grandma could do better then Wenger. Its not that easy is it. Ancelotti and Mourinho are short term fix managers. The Club is rolling the dice..… Read more »

Ishola70

Le Grove
“Fitness levels of our squad not high enough. Started to fade on 45. This time next year, that won’t be the case. Really need to target players who can work to high levels for 90.”

Yes player poverty is a thing.

Pedro now on board.

Dissenter

RH
Yes..Thierry Henry is persona non grata now.

It’s as if you can’t embrace Arteta with pragmatism. You have to be 100% in, with suspended disbelieving and no context.

Henry didn’t even go after Arteta, just put perspective on a performance.

Cesc Appeal

Every time Wolves make the wrong decision.

They could have had the scousers today.

RodneyKing

Arsenal were bound to concede at least one goal with all that pressure from Chelsea, especially in the second half. Unfortunately, it was Leno with an error for their first goal which I don’t think he was entirely at fault for. The whole team was running on empty. I said yesterday that Chelsea with their superior midfield might have a fairly comfortable game against us. It didn’t seem that way at first but once Jorginho was introduced, they took complete control from then on. We can be certain that Arteta’s in-game management abilities will always be called into question especially… Read more »

Upstate Gooner

Nuno would have us more competitive and playing better than Arteta. Wolves are a joy to watch.

WengerEagle

Pool shithoused this well and proper. PL in bag.

Cesc Appeal

‘Yes player poverty is a thing.Pedro now on board.’

No. no. no.

It wasn’t true under Emery but Emery so ruined this squad that now it is true.

These were top quality players who after 2 or 3 bad months under Emery suddenly turned to poverty…such was their level of quality.

Spanishdave

We have to buy two players in early Jan not at the end as we have done in the past.

Emiratesstroller

CA My narrative is precisely how I have reacted all season. If you refer back to many of my previous posts I have stated that there has not been a single game which we have played this season in EPL where we deserved to win on merit and that includes all our victories. Some may blame Wenger, Emery or Ljungberg for what has happened but the problem goes much deeper. We have had an Academy Programme which is rated below that of most of the other major clubs in EPL and has not produced a single Defender of Class in… Read more »

Dissenter

There’s a plausible case to be made that Arteta was the cheapest and gettable manager with premier league know-how.
It’s an appointment that could easily be dressed up with Arsenal values.

He’s been dealt a very bad hand with the low quality squad. He needs all the help he can get from the club and the fans. Disappointed that the crowd just slipped away at the end.

Cesc Appeal

‘Arsenal rated one of the best run football clubs over last 100 years has now
reached the point where we could be relegated the way we are operating now.’

Arsenal have been one of the worst run football clubs since the Emirates move.

I’ve said this for almost 10 years.

Economically and in terms of football outlook, abysmally bad and this was always coming.

I said it about 6 or 7 years ago, the foolish man who builds his house on sand.

Enjoy your sinkhole.

Sorry fellas, don’t matter who the manager is, even god as our manager would struggle with the kroenkes as owners. They’re a plague on this once great club. Utter scum. Through their mismanagement this team is 300 – 400 million away from being a top 4 team, we’re that poor. Fucking scum

Bamford10

Ishola

Not quite. He’s trying to skirt the issue by saying it’s about stamina, not quality. This squad lacks quality and athleticism, not stamina. They ran out of energy in the second half because they had to work twice as hard as Chelsea just to be in the match. As Arteta says (per Pep,) you work twice as hard without the ball as you do with it. We lost because we lack quality and athleticism throughout the team, something some of us here have been saying for a long time now.

Ishola70

Cesc Appeal
“No. no. no.”

lol

Pedro wants physical beasts to come in now to aid Arteta.

Not a bad idea actually.

Ozil, Xhaka and the likes in the bin.

WengerEagle

Adama Traore is a scary specimen. He’s improving his end product and general technique now too.

Best athlete I’ve ever seen on a football pitch. Physique of a wide receiver.

Dissenter

Upstate
“Nuno would have us more competitive and playing better than Arteta. Wolves are a joy to watch.”

Not after a week with a shit squad like this . He too will need more time.

Cesc Appeal

What a fucking ball from Sheffield.

Dissenter

Honestly English football has misused VAR. The pricks who become referees are a special breed.

Upstate Gooner

Chris Wilder would make us more competitive. Arteta will be gone in 18 months with a nice payout. Rinse and repeat for new manager.

WengerEagle

Dopey VAR decision strikes again.

Cesc Appeal

Another shoelace offside.

RodneyKing

“Player Poverty” once the rallying cry of the Emerysta is now official propaganda it seems.

Cesc Appeal

There should be a rule like the line for the attackers body part and defender’s have to not be touching to overrule on field.

Ishola70

Bamford

It doesn’t matter what aspect Pedro is alluding to.

He is asking for reinforcements to come in to aid Arteta.

Reinforcements with aspects he doesn’t see in this present Arsenal squad.

Chitom

I see some blaming refs for this result.
If you wanted the second yellow for Jorginho pull back on Guen then you should be asking for one on Guen’s foul on Abraham, which would’ve been probably a pen.
Fact is Jorginho scored because LT is a lightweight and goes down under slightest contact leaving it in refs hands to bail him out.
This is a squad full of limited players and it will take more than Arteta’s sauce to put it back on track.

Cesc Appeal

‘“Player Poverty” once the rallying cry of the Emerysta is now official propaganda it seems.’

What polish my balls and serve me a milkshake.

Who the fuck saw this coming?

Upstate Gooner

Dissenter
Nuno would not be sitting on his arse doing nothing when it was obvious the change was needed

Complete new back 4, Tierney unfortunately is to injury prone and won’t make it at Arsenal. and bellerin isn’t a left back. Guen and tor aren’t good enough. With tor being to small for this league. Xhaka is championship at best, auba is off, lacazette as well. I mean we need serious money spent on this team

RodneyKing

Everything Wolves did in front of goal today was rushed. With some composure, they’d have gotten more out of that game.

They’ve got some ridiculously good ball players.

WengerEagle

City look so unsure of themselves, have had the mojo knocked out of them this campaign.

Cesc Appeal

Player like Neves is also what we need in midfield.

Ishola70

Physical beasts the order of the day.

No more refined dandys with stamina issues.

That’s Pedro’s order.

Fair play to him.

Dissenter

The people who say Arsenal cannot be relegated need to get history books.
Bigger and more dominant enterprises have gone down in flames.
It’s like the idiot who called the titanic the “unsinkable ship”.

Watford have started to make a move off the bottom of the table and they certainly have the squad quality. Westham will bring in a dour pragmatic coach.
It’s not going to be easy.

MidwestGun

Lol Cesc- I feel like you are trying to get binned. Go ahead and hold Pedro’s feet to the fire though.., he would do the same.

If scouse fans win the Title which seems likely… at least 20 years of misery hearing about it… not good times at all.

Upstate Gooner

We’re currently behind Sheffield United, Crystal Palace, Everton, Newcastle United, and on same points total with Burnley. They all must have better squads than ours.

Spanishdave

Arteta is a brave boy taking this on.
We don’t have a history of spending our way out of it.
Our club needs new owners who know football and want success.
We are now 25 years back to where we were.

Cesc Appeal

MidWest

Haha.

I told him I would do this.

I think he’s spot on.

Just funny this realisation arrived this week for him.

Ishola70

My barometer is that Arteta finishes ahead of Burnley by the season’s end.

They are muck.

MidwestGun

Cesc-

😀 Poor Peds.. I just don’t want him to have to reposter his bedroom.

Cesc Appeal

The conversation with Kroenke.

‘We need £100 Million…’

‘Okay, that’s not so bad’.

‘That’s just the midfield’.

TR7

Who says player poverty is official ? With the same squad sans Pepe, Martinelli, Holding, Bellerin and Tierney, Arsenal led Chelsea for 80 mins under a new manager. Emery was conceding 20 plus shots even against the likes of Brighton, Watford, Palace etc.

Emiratesstroller

No Manager on the planet would make this current team competitive. My concern is that we are a total rebuild job and I cannot see the present owner providing the management and financial resources to turn the club around. What has not been discussed today is how long our Sponsors [Addidas, Emirates and Rwanda] will continue to invest in the club? Also I am a longstanding season ticket holder as are many of those who are sitting around me. Most including myself have reached the point where we are no longer turning up to games. At the end of this… Read more »

Valentin

Last season Emery overtrained and overused the same players resulting in injuries during the winter month. This year, he changed the conditioning to a lower regime and the result is that the players are 70 minutes players. Past the 80 minutes mark, they all suffers from cramps and can’t run. That was already the case when Emery was still here. Today we could see that Saka could not run. The fact that a 18 years old boy can be over ridden of cramp when his much older direct opposite winger is still running is entirely due to poor conditioning. Team… Read more »

Upstate Gooner

Ishola
My barometer is that Arteta finishes ahead of Burnley by the season’s end.

Great. That’s our level now, is it? All those clubs I listed that are ahead of us have better managers. Carlo is 2 for 2 at Everton. Don’t have any doubt whatsoever he’d have 6 points with our lot as well.

Dissenter

The same people lambasting the Kroenkes were happy to jump at Everton’s first offer for iwobi.
They are too ready to sell Xhaka off cheaply take the first offer -“jump at it”.
They supported the decision to not sell Sanchez.
They supported the crazy Ozil contract. I remember the ecstatic comments here the day Ozil signed his mega contract.
We have shitty fans too. How do you explain leaving at the 85th minute today. The away section was louder that the rest of the stadium..

Why do we put away fans so close to the pitch? It’s annoying.

Cesc Appeal

MidWest He won’t have to. I think Arteta did well today. The shape looked good. Big fan of how close he has the team playing to one another. The pressing was good, then dropping into shape, the work rate demanded…all spot on. But like I said, Arteta, Ancelotti, Pochettino whoever it is THIS SQUAD IS NOT BUILT FOR THE EPL. It is not suited for any system, it is not suited for a fight, it is not suited for an EPL campaign, there’s a lack of physicality, athleticism and character. Emery deserved to be sacked, he made way too many… Read more »

Dissenter

Our squad is not built for a relegation fight.
If we lose at home to United then its battle stations to avoid relegation.

Cesc Appeal

‘Arsenal need:

-2 quality centre backs
-A commanding midfielder with excellent distribution
-A creator who can also put in a shift
-A wide player of a creative profile to play from the left

5-6 players out of 11 not going to be here in 2 years time when Arteta wins us things.’

This from LTArsenal.

Amazing how quickly people have changed their tune.

Ishola70

Valentin

The team looked cooked on 50 minutes.

Get it right please.

Emery has left Arteta 50 minutes players not 70 minutes players.

Valentin

I remember saying last summer that the four positions that we need to look after were: 1) CDM 2) Left sided CB 3) Goalkeeper 4) Left back. Monreal was still with us. Nothing shown so far has made me change my opinion that the recruitment was a bad joke. We still do not have a dominant physically midfielder who can cope with pressing. Our CBs still can’t defend on a 1v1 situation. Our goalkeeper will make routine saves look like world class while making a howler every 7 games. Bernd Leno has committed more errors that directly lead to goals… Read more »

Dissenter

Did emery make the players worse?
His now derided brought us close the the CL last season from two points- the league and EL.
I would argue that he didn’t make them better. He certainly didn’t make them worse.
He 100% deserved his sack.

Receding Hairline

Valentin that post was embarrassing even for you.

Professional athletes still suffering from the training regime of manager sacked a month ago.

If indeed he trained them less this year they should be fitter than their opponents now not the other way round.

Dissenter

Mustafi was shit before Emery. Emery did everything possible to chase him out but the player “loves” Arsenal.
Mustafi is still shit long after Emery. You can’t blame his crappiness on Emery.

Champagne charlie

Dissenter still whipping up a relegation frenzy. Superfan

habesha gooner

What we need as a squad fix,
CB elite and a leader
RB someone who can compete with bellerin.
LB someone who can compete with Tierney
DM someone who can Compete with torriera or partner him
CM starting player
AM creator
LW someone who can replace Laca or Auba

Sell
Luiz,Sokratis,Kolasinac,Mustafi, Niles, Xhaka, Ozil, Elneny, Mkhitaryan, Laca/auba (reallly shouldn’t have bought two of them, one was enough)

Keep
Leno, Martinez, Bellerin,Tierney, Chambers,Saliba,Holding, Torriera, Guendouzi, willock, Smith-Rowe( loan wouldn’t be bad), Nelson,Eddie N.( loan would be good) Pepe, Martinelli, Saka, Auba/laca which ever one stays.

Champagne charlie

“Professional athletes still suffering from the training regime of manager sacked a month ago. If indeed he trained them less this year they should be fitter than their opponents now not the other way round.“

Wow.

Dissenter

That Valentin post is the part of him I don’t like.
He’s using innuendoes and false suppositions to smear people. No way he has access to the clubs training regimen.
If he trained them less, shouldn’t they be fresher now?

Ishola70

More seriously Torreira looked cooked far too early in the second half.

The workload put on him is mammoth in the team and that is with any current midfield combination presently available.

He needs help and there isn’t one midfielder in the current squad that can help him.

Receding Hairline

Players who have not been training as hard as the rest of the league are now running on fumes. That doesn’t make sense.

Yes Charles it doesn’t make sense

Champagne charlie

Receding

Yea, if you’re a desk monkey that hasn’t a clue about physical performance.

Tell you what, you sign up for a marathon and then tip up having done less prep work and see how you get on. You’ll be rested, it’ll be fine.

Bob N16

For what it’s worth, my view after attending the match, was that there were definite positives to be taken from the game.The first half was one of our best halves of the season, compact without the ball and without being outstanding, we moved the ball around well. Second half was a different story but with ten minutes to go we looked up for a morale boosting win. Leno fucked up for the first goal and Mustafá backed off horribly for the second. Even with limited options I felt Arteta could have tried to stem the tide with earlier substitutions. Torreira… Read more »

Dissenter

“Dissenter still whipping up a relegation frenzy. Superfan”

We haven’t won a home game since Oct 6
We have a GD of -4 and are 6 points off the 18th placed team.

I’m glad I’m not waving my plumage and sticking my head in the sand pretending that we are too big to go down.

For a while it seemed Watford were dead certain to go down, now they’ve started a winning sequence.

habesha gooner

Upamecano, Partey, Grealish, Max aarons, Everton Soares, Rabiot and kurzawa would be dream signings in each position.

Dissenter

The referee provided the pre-assist for Aguero’s goal

Can’t make this up.

Upstate Gooner

Another laughable VAR decision

Guernsey gun

Just watched Liverpool v wolves…..we dodged a bullet with Nuno “bland on toast” santos. Unlike arsenal wolves got smashed in that second half, completely penned in and……oh hold my beer they gave Liverpool a working over second half, after beating city 2 days ago. But hey his sauce is 2 year out of date salad cream…..and he has a super agent…..the cheek of the cunt. Reality gonna hit hard for some of the fake cunts on hear. #droppinglikeastone.

Upstate Gooner

Guernsey gun
LOL

Receding Hairline

Charles they are pro athletes who come in for training and gym session daily . your analogy is crap but then again it’s you.

Valentin

Receding, The idea that you don’t need to have a proper conditioning training regime to be fit is laughable. You clearly have no idea how training regime work. If you overtrain you run the risk of injury because you are tired. if you undertrain you can’t compete after 70 minutes. Everybody could see that our energy level severely dropped after the 70 minutes mark. And yes players do suffer from bad conditioning training six weeks later. Fitness regime is not instantaneous. Football training camp for world cup is 6 weeks before. If conditioning was immediate, why would team reconvene so… Read more »

Marko

Last season Emery overtrained and overused the same players resulting in injuries during the winter month.
This year, he changed the conditioning to a lower regime and the result is that the players are 70 minutes players. Past the 80 minutes mark, they all suffers from cramps and can’t run.

Oh fuck off Val he overtrained players he undertrained players and meanwhile any criticism of Wenger and rallying like a lemming. You’re just a cock

Receding Hairline

Now the narrative at least from Valentin is not that most of our squad are physically ill suited to this but that they weren’t trained hard enough by the incompetent emery.

This was the same guy who argued over training all thorough last season.

And Charles backs him up, he is one of the good guys. Never seen an adult with such a playground mentality

Champagne charlie

“Charles they are pro athletes who come in for training and gym session daily . your analogy is crap but then again it’s you.“

My analogy is exaggerated, the point it makes is absolutely relevant.

What’s crap is your grasp of sports performance and training in general.

Bit of a fatty with dodgy hair I’m guessing? Talking like one. Stamina, endurance, capacity to work aren’t something you develop in a fortnight. Dismissing the training regime because the manager is gone a month says all you need to know about your grasp on it.

Valentin

Marko,

The only one who keep mentioning Wenger at the first opportunity is you. Get over Emery you scorned fan boy.
Any hint of criticism of Emery and you are straight in throwing insults and bringing Wenger in the discussion.
We all know where you stand on your hate on Wenger.
Yesterday evening you were making a spectacle of yourself, complaining about Wenger for not buying a crap player.

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