Well, the new boys have started to drip into the club. Torriera has LANDED which is magnificent. This is him pointing.
Magnificent.
In other news, the stories about us landing Dembele get hotter and hotter. The French wideman has an admirer in Sven M. Barca oddly looking to bin off the magical winger after just one season. I have no idea why they’d consider moving on talent like that, all I know if I LOVE him deeply as a player and think he’d be a fabulous addition to our quite scary attack. Kike Marin, the Spanish God of transfers reckons this could happen… very exciting.
Also, if Barca are offering up a £135m player who is 20 in exchange for Ramsey… well, I don’t want to pack anyone’s bags but come on, that’d be a tasty offer. Ramsey would be on the train to Emanuel Petitville in a season anyway.
OBVIOUSLY I’d like to keep Ramsey, but be real, it’s not looking good.
The Ozil drama carried on into its 16th week, fans in Germany protested on the theme of #IamOzil. Bit dramatic, don’t you think? Guy hung out with the civil rights abuser basket player Enes Kanter called “the Hitler of our century”, now people are protesting his treatment in Germany (the irony), a country that’s lambasted by the hard right the world over for being too kind to immigrants? Please.
Freddi Boban is having NONE OF IT.
“I think that’s a bit cowardly,”
“Ozil’s criticism of social media, especially in the direction of the German Football Association (DFB), is unbearable.
“This blanket charge of racism simply does not correspond to reality. He could have given an interview somewhere, live on TV.
“For us footballers, the rule is ‘be a man and stand up.'”
Freddi, what does it mean to be a man? Why are you leaning on dated stereotypes of masculinity to make a shallow point about racism?
You disgust me.
Anyway, time to sweep this German nonsense under the rug. There’s only one nationality that counts and that’s GOONER. Amirite? Yes. Yes I am.
Right, not a lot to go on today. See you tomorrow!
x
UTarse
I’m game.
Wallace
Adebayor was no more prolific than Giroud even though he was the better all-round CF. Ade must have missed at least two great chances for every goal he scored in his thirty goal season. And RVP was in and out of the team injured for most of that time-frame, didn’t explode until after Cesc had left.
And Henry left the club when Fabregas turned twenty.
Not at all a fair comparison, Cesc was a teenager for the first 96 matches of those, which is significantly more than half.
Does Ozil go missing in big games? Ozil’s poor display in Arsenal’s 4-0 defeat by Liverpool reopened the debate over his big-game record. The German was singled out by Sky Sports pundit Gary Neville for his failure to track back in the build-up to Liverpool’s second goal, and many supporters were similarly unimpressed. Ozil was brought to the Emirates Stadium to help the bridge the gap between Arsenal and the Premier League’s best, but memorable individual performances against the top six have been infrequent. He shone in Arsenal’s 3-0 home wins over Manchester United and Chelsea in 2015/16 and 2016/17,… Read more »
To mainly rely on Auba and Laca to score most of our goals is a bit scary. One of them if not both of them will at some point be injured or out of form…
It looks like we all agree that what we need is not an old-fashioned winger, but someone who gives us width and takes on a man.
Ramsey for Dembele would be a great deal for both parties IMO.
This Ozil bashing is getting ridiculous. I just hope he has a belter this season with Emery’s help to stuff it in your throats you f*ckers.
Just hoping for a winning start.
Orstein is expected to slip once in a while but has generally been very reliable and trustworthy in so so many calls on our transfer business ,I mean he’s not a clairvoyant but chances are when says something on our transfers there’s 80% chance he’s bang on
Terraloon
I’d be hoping for at least forty from Auba and Laca, if not closer to fifty.
We need Ramsey/Mkhitaryan/Ozil chipping in with at least another twenty which is a tall order based on their output last season, after that we would need another fifteen to twenty from the rest of the squad.
I’d like to think that’s quite possible.
gambon
‘Wallace
You may want to read up what ‘consistently’ means.’
it’s 50 assists. we’re talking 3/4/5 seasons for even the very best. Cesc also had a season where he was on fire before Christmas and then fizzled out. comes with the job.
Chances of that are slim though.
Rambo I’d actually be delighted if he signed for Barcelona. It’d mean he’d be gone from here and you’d have to change your stupid fucking name. Besides Barca have bought poorly these last few years in midfield he’d just be another in a long line of shit signings. Bit like Song you know
Wallace
“it’s 50 assists. we’re talking 3/4/5 seasons for even the very best. Cesc also had a season where he was on fire before Christmas and then fizzled out. comes with the job.”
Ozil 8 assists in 31 games against Spurs, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man Utd and Man City lol lol lol
@ Kay “This Ozil bashing is getting ridiculous. I just hope he has a belter this season with Emery’s help to stuff it in your throats you f*ckers. Just hoping for a winning start.” It isn’t Ozil bashing. It’s a discussion about the merits or otherwise of the player. Wallace hasn’t been abusive to me and has made his comments thoughtfully. I hope I’ve not been abusive to him when sharing my opinion and reasoning. Then along you come with your hyperbole and call some of us fuckers. Is it a lack of self control or just a desire to… Read more »
WE
‘Not at all a fair comparison, Cesc was a teenager for the first 96 matches of those, which is significantly more than half.’
Michael Owen scored the majority of his goals between 17-21. not everyone peaks in their mid-20s.
Red
‘Ozil 8 assists in 31 games against Spurs, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man Utd and Man City lol lol lol’
who outside of Drogba, Cantona and one or two others scores/assists against the best sides as regularly as they do against everyone else?
Lets look at what Ozil has done since his stat pad season, in the last 2 seasons in comparison to similar players: Ozil ; 14.5 goals and assists per season, 1.55 defensive actions per game De Bruyne: 24 goals and assists per season, 2.5 defensive actions per game Silva: 15.5 goals and assists per season, 2.3 defensive actions per game Eriksen: 21.5 goals and assists per season, 2.6 defensive actions per game So just to confirm, Ozil has the least goals of any of these players. Ozil has the least assists of any of these players Ozil has the lowest… Read more »
From the Barca perspective, why would you move Paulinho on loan back to China, just to bring in Ramsey. Are they not very similar types of players (all-action goal-scoring CMs)? Makes no sense to me.
@InsideRight
Man up. This thing has been going for more than a week now. Why not support Ozil for a change.
And yes, my mum is proud of me.
Adama Traore for 18m?
Astonishing that despite being far more lazy, and contributing far less, Ozil is scoring and assisting at a lower rate than all other similar players in the top 6.
I guess he can always talk about racism, and the time he got 19 assists in the worst ever PL season.
@gambon.
Maybe we conclude that at the end of the season? Why not give him a chance with someone other than the mighty wanker?
You seem to like Emery already. Do you think Ozil cant get better with Emery s help/coaching?
For £350k a week, Ozil should be getting 50 assists and a minimum of 20 goals a season
Azed,
You’re on. So if you win I’ll do better then $50, a ticket to watch any match at the emirates. If I win, how you gonna pay me ? Cash ?
Kay
Im not sure a lazy eunuch thats approaching 30 suddenly gets better but we’ll see.
What Hoeness said was absolutely spot on.
Gambon
Hahaha what has Ornstein done to you?
Wallace
Ozil is the assist king so why are his stats so poor against top sides…
@gambon
I do very much agree he is a lazy idiot. Maybe he gets finally motivated with Arsenal and has a blinder this season. Hoping for the best.
A winning start against man city will get us all pumped up though.
Kay
I think its more likely he is made to work hard, and he gets on his phone to his agent immediately looking for a move.
What you see is what you get with Ozil, he is no pires.
gambon
‘Lets look at what Ozil has done since his stat pad season, in the last 2 seasons in comparison to similar players…’
what’s a ‘stat pad season’? is that when we only play teams in the bottom half?
the last 2 seasons…so only using the times when we’ve been particularly bad? why not all 4?
For a change we will go with a plan against MC. Hope we at least a draw
Wallace
You think what Ozil did in 2013 is in anyway relevant in 2018?
Maybe we should sign Yaya Toure and Steven Gerrard…..they dominated the 13/14 season?
WE In the 26 year history of the PL only 73 players have ever scored 20 or over in a PL season. In the history of the PL only three teams have ever had two players score 20 in the same season. 1992/3 saw Beardsley and Cole achieve the feat when Newcastle scored 82, 2009/10 saw Drogba and Lampard score over that number when Chelsea scored 103 and finally in 2013/14 when Suarez and Sturbridge hit 20 plus when Liverpool scored 101 I am not suggesting it won’t happen but 40 between them will be some achievement more than that… Read more »
Terraloon
I have little doubt that Auba can put up those numbers, has scored ten league goals since he has joined us, question mark is more around Laca hitting fifteen to twenty.
I think he is capable, it’s outside of these two boys that I would worry.
‘Wallace
You think what Ozil did in 2013 is in anyway relevant in 2018?
Maybe we should sign Yaya Toure and Steven Gerrard…..they dominated the 13/14 season?’
classic gambon. straight out of the Trump playbook. baffle them with stupidity.
These ret@rds backing Ozil are Wenger doormats, unhinged sheep beyond redemption.
Will Emery be keen to use Leno straight away against City and Chelsea? What a way to start your EPL journey. From the friendlies so far, it’s still quite tough to tell his preferred CB pairing. Any chance of Torreira starting?
Wallace must think Aubameyang is terrible
Only scored 13 in the 13/14 season.
WE
Will he be able to keep that rate up for a full season? It’s worth noting that in his 10 years playing in top flight football he has only scored ove 25 in two seasons one of which despite the transfer was last season.
Like you I can’t see much outside those two and lose one of then i really can’t see who else will step up
Terraloon
3 times if you count last season combined with Dortmund, 23 goals in 29 apps I think it’s safe to say that with a full season under his belt without disruptions he would have broken the 25 barrier once again.
And they are all in his last 3 seasons of football which makes a big difference.
UTarse / azed
Sounds like a fair wager. May I suggest the trustworthy and venerable Red act as escrow for each of your $50 until the bet is settled?
RH,
Watched him enough times to tell you that he’ll be the 2nd best DM in the squad.
Love the ballsy post calling out Bobic and the positivity of your posts. Pedro, you’ve got your mojo back. Let’s hope some of the posters on here drop the negativity and timidity and STOP REFERENCING WENGER. This place reminds me of a bar full of jilted individuals talking about how they have got over the dumping and repeating this at every conceivable opportunity.
Lacazette managed 14 league goals in what was essentially a disappointing season for him.
Auba managed 10 in 13.
I expect Auba to hit at least 25 league goals next season
Lacazette 15-20 depending on game time
“Watched him enough times to tell you that he’ll be the 2nd best DM in the squad.”
Max Meyer is not a DM
Ah, the great Emmanuel Adebayor or, as I liked to call him, Emmanuel Adenoughchances?
To put ozil and young cesc in the same contribution bracket and actually put ozil higher based on assists is absolute sacrilege. We’re always supposed to accommodate ozil for vanishing for half the games for half of each season – every season and just shut up and admire his wonderful sole contribution – his chances created/assists And yet a 17-19 year old cesc had almost as many assists whilst absolutely DOMINATING midfields against teams week in week out. League, cup, CL you name it. He contributed defensively, offensively, showed up *and* got almost as many assists at a far younger… Read more »
Lacazette will get at least 20.
45 should be attainable between the two of them.
https://youtu.be/lXYC0BkquHg
And yeah, Henry played with cesc for a couple of seasons then left. Ade had a single red hot season and rvp was injured for a huge percentage of cesc’s time with us
For every cesc assist to Henry he also had to assist absolute filth like chamakh and bendtner. And cesc was doing this from far deeper and with responsibility to put the team on his back – something ozil simply has no concept of or capacity to do
https://youtu.be/8lcOPF_k-9w
Raptora I have not made the case that Dembele would not add value to our squad/team, but rather that spending the level of transfer fee that Barcelona paid for a player who plays on average 50-60 minutes per game is in my view inflated. I gave stats provided by Transfermarkt for last two seasons as a comparison between him and Mbappe to show both players comparative records when they played games in both League AND Champions League. Remember that Mbappe is quite a bit younger and I would suggest physically more mature than Dembele. Marco Both Dembele and Mbappe played… Read more »
There’s a damn good reason why assist king ozil has managed to consistently attract major criticism from large parts of his own club and national fans whilst cesc will long go down as a legend of his time for us. Put peak cesc in our midfield of last year and we’d still have loved him because he’d have dragged us to 10 more points and would’ve died for the cause on the way – probably lobbing pizza at moaninho as well.
Bless him
Both Dembele and Mbappe played for France in the Right Wing position for
France so there is a comparison to be made between the two.
Nah Mbappe is a striker who plays RF and Dembele is a winger who plays on the wing very different players Dembele for example couldn’t play CF Mbappe can’t so comparing their goals and what not is silly.
There are far too many people like you who seems to think that “money grows
on trees”
If we can do the deal we should do the deal.
Mbappe can play CF
Cesc was a different animal to Ozil.
It was just unfortunate that he was unable to taste the success of winning the EPL or CL with us.
Ozil attitude wise is not fit to tie Cesc’s boots.
Ozil hides when the going gets tough, Cesc thrives under tough conditions.
Once i was able to overcome Cesc Fabregas leaving Arsenal, i knew any player that leaves wouldn’t bother me.
China I agree that bringing back Fabregas to Arsenal would have been a good idea. Sadly Wenger thought differently and so did a lot of supporters including those who post on Le Grove. What I do know is that Fabregas is a highly intelligent guy and will make a great coach/manager as and when he retires. Ozil is greatly resented not just by some supporters, but clearly ex German players because of the wages Arsenal pay him. As I said many times before the £350 K pw will include an instalment plan to keep the player on the books and… Read more »
Victorious,
If I’m a fanboy for wanting Meyer, then you’re religious about Wenger.
Despite being part of the Arsenal academy set-up from the age of 6, Smith Rowe didn’t get to make his first team debut under Arsene Wenger. Instead, he’s been welcomed into the fold by Unai Emery – presumably on the advice of others at London Colney – and is relishing the Spaniard’s hands-on style
Love this lad. Wants to stay and fight for a spot. Probably knows under this manager if he impresses in training and in the Carling cup he’ll get more opportunities.
Yeah Cesc leaving was the one that hurt the most.
Henry was the only other time I was in mourning for a while after a sale lol. And even that wasn’t quite as bad because he was thirty when we sold him and he was more of a disruptive influence than anything else in his last season here.
Ozil is greatly resented not just by some supporters, but clearly ex German players because of the wages Arsenal pay him.
His wages is it? The root cause of the criticism is his wages? Honestly and I mean this but fuck off with that absolute waffle. What a weak fucking argument. He got the pay bump in February he’s been playing inconsistently for over 2 seasons and beencriticized for it fairly. He also faced criticism after the 2014 world cup. All this predates the 350,000. You’re talking nonsense is what I’m getting at
China
Cesc’s arsenal always dominate possession, hence the ball stays in the opponents final 3rd, 70% of the games, as a result more goals are scored leading to more assists. The controlling isn’t all down to him. He had great DMs playing alongside.. gilberto,flamini, and an inform Song.
Ozil played in a more counter attacking arsenal with no clinical forward of note. Giroud, welbeck. That’s it.
You can’t blame him for those stats.
Cesc played with henry, rvp, inform Adenayor, and even fucking Eduardo.
When ozil played with CR7, his stats were better than cesc’s
“If I win, how you gonna pay me ? Cash ?”
Utarse
How ever you want it paid.
Anyone remember when Brian Clough and Peter Taylor stopped working together?
Not sure it’s been mentioned or indeed factored in but both Klopp and Mourinho have severed links with their long term assistants so will that have a bearing?
RH,
What is he, mate?
@ Kay “Man up. This thing has been going for more than a week now. Why not support Ozil for a change. And yes, my mum is proud of me.” Man up? I guess the army was too soft with me when I was deployed. I’ll write to the Colonel and talk to a lawyer about suing the bastard shall I? Why should I support a player who goes missing in the important games and has self indulgent rants about people being mean to him because of the decisions he makes, then tops it off with the pathetic use of… Read more »
‘When ozil played with CR7, his stats were better than cesc’s’ In Ozil’s three seasons at Real Madrid he made one hundred and thirty-six apps in La Liga/CL and scored 23, assisting sixty goals. In the same time frame in the league/CL between Arsenal and Barcelona, Fabregas made ninety apps scoring thirty-one goals and assisting 35. Which totals 66 goals/assists in ninety matches for Cesc at .73 goals/assists a match and 83 goals/assists for Ozil in one hundred and thirty-six apps, working out at .6 goals/assists a match for Ozil. Luckily for Ozil as well Cesc’s unbelievable season before this… Read more »
Plus the comparison is hugely unflattering to Cesc who played in a competitive league for around the 3/4 best team whereas Ozil played for the 1/2 team in a non competitive league who generally speaking trounced everyone else bar one or two teams every season
@Akilan what’s that even suppose to mean?let go of Wenger already, he’s gone for good, move on! Kind of feels like you’re finding it difficult to accept the fact Meyer who you suggested will take us to the next level is apparently only good enough for a middling crystalpalace team Nothing wrong with getting things wrong from time to time but halt been salty about it,yourself and Marko literally wanked over him on here despite him been a slightly above average player,just the usual put down of arsenals players to get all pumped up over average players who are just… Read more »
The bickering on here has gone past boring. The same petty little arguments, for fuck sake can we at least discuss something vaguely different.
Marc if you’re not happy reading it you know you don’t have to. I mean no one forces anyone to read this shit
“What’s that even SUPPOSED to mean”
I see you haven’t been paying attention in class 12 year old.
Victorious, Lol. I’m actually happy we signed Torreira instead of him, evident by the fact that after the little “debate” back then, I’ve never mentioned him ever again here. Proof that I have happily moved on. Never said that he’ll take us to the next level, that’s a lie. Always maintained he’s worth a punt because we didn’t have a single DM in our squad. He has the potential to grow in that position. If it turns out well, we have a 50m player in our hands. If it doesn’t, at worst, he’s an upgrade on Elneny. It enables us… Read more »
utASS
excellent contribution from you once again
I realized since Wenger’s departure you barely post anything meaningful on here.. kind of like your fish brain is only programmed for ‘Wenger out’ nothing more or less,
pathetic fraud .
Brit with good teeth,
After all that the Brits done to the rest of us, you should actually be happy we use British euphemisms.
And fuck yeah. Bring on the Fraudiolas,
Jurgen Flopps and Fraudicio Fraudchettinos of the world. We have got the best Manager now. Its our time.
Akilan Fair enough mate except Meyer is a CM and tbf we have better options both in the first 11 and bench, he would have come in for the fat wages and end up being another deadwood were we find it difficult to shift him on if he tanked badly I quite like the fact spots for the likes of Meyer are being taken up by youngsters with potentials AMN and Guendouzi who are likely to get a look in capital 1 cup matches and early Europa league stages,at least you admit when you get it wrong unlike a certain… Read more »
Looks like the signings are all done,,, horse running today came second called diamond time 6/1 …
Hope it’s an omen…
Oh Rambo is off in January.
Brit with rotten teeth
From which hole have you scamper from?
what moniker did you go by previously?
don’t really think you’re stupid but just have a bad luck when thinking .
You will see how big of a fraud Jurgen Flopp really is. Talking himself up like he’ll achieve greatness by relying on team spirit and coaching skills, proceeds to buy himself like what? 9 players for £360 million or £40m on the average. 9 players. All of his cheap buys are absolutely trash – Grujic, Klavan, Karius, Robertson. And then 9 players for £40m. Don’t get me wrong. I don’t mind spending. But he had presented himself a little bit different that this. He’s just another cheque-book manager. Just that unlike Pep, he’ll get shown up for the fraud that… Read more »
Talking himself up like he’ll achieve greatness by relying on team spirit and coaching skills
Did he now? Also Robertson has been an excellent buy.
raptora
You just dug yourself a hole by coming out with such strong criticism for legrove’s favorite manager,wait for the onslaught
BTW I agree with you on how much of a fraud he is, going by the usual suspects appraisal of him on here, you won’t know he’s lost SIX straight finals on a row
Cheque book manager is such a silly saying.
The best teams have the best players. It’s very unlikely that you can find, buy and keep the best group of players without spending money.
It’s just Wenger that tried to show you could win without spending after Jose Mourinho absolutely wrecked him.
Look how well that went.
Marko You are really self opinionated. If there is one topic of conversation going on here since Ozil signed his new contract it is the money we are paying him and the discussion is whether he is value for money. Frankly I don’t consider any player worth £50K PW but that is my personal opinion. Clubs pay what they think they have to in the current financial climate to secure quality players. As I tried to explain to you and others the wages we pay him are almost certainly factoring in a “loyalty” payment, which Arsenal are paying to him… Read more »
If Wenger was a cheque book manager instead of a bang average one he’d still have a job.
The more i watch Ozil’s 50 assists the more convinced i am of his shitness.
Most of his assists are finished off by that wonderful striker Giroud…..lol
Pretty sure cheque book klopp wouldn’t win 3 titles on a shoestring budget
Victorious
He’s already won 2 titles so you are probably wrong.
What an index finger that guy’s got!
Marko I pose a question to you if Arsenal wanted to buy either Ramsey or Ozil or equivalent player in current market how much do you think that a club in EPL, Serie A or La Liga would sell him to us. Mahrez who is the same age as Ramsey cost Man City a transfer fee of £60 million. On paper there is not a huge difference in transfer value between two. The main difference is that Ramsey is HOME GROWN. So if Arsenal have to pay £50K Pw in wages over the odds that works out at £7,800,000 over… Read more »
Mahrez who is the same age as Ramsey cost Man City a transfer fee of £60 million. On paper there is not a huge difference in transfer value between two. The main difference is that Ramsey is HOME GROWN. I mean Mahrez is a better player and an attacker. Ramsey is a somewhat inconsistent CM or is it CAM depending on the argument. Of course he wouldn’t be worth the same. Stroller you’re basically making a case for never signing new players instead give existing players new contracts because players these days are expensive. Right I got it good luck… Read more »
Klopp when 2 bundesliga titles in 2011/12 during Bayern’s worst ever period in the bundesliga
Now can Klopp win titles on a tight budget whilst a large chunk of money is going towards the building of a new stadium under a much more competitive league? not a chance
*won
Victorious
When did Wenger ever win in a competitive league?
He won titles when there were only 2 good teams.
In fact every time another team started investing he sat back and helplessly let them overtake us.
When did Wenger ever win back to back titles? Klopp certainly did.
Klopp also made it to more champions league finals than Arsene
Klopp is also still relevant in 2018, as opposed to old Arsene sitting in his rocking chair dribbling while waiting for the phone to ring, with his pictures of Abou Diaby.
Marko As I pointed out the valuation of both players is similar and Ramsey is home grown, which attracts premium. The point is that Mahrez cost £60 million and Chelsea are rumoured to offer just £30 million for Ramsey. So what is correct valuation? As I said if Arsenal pay £7.5 million over 3 years it is a lot cheaper than buying an equivalent player from elsewhere. I am not making the case for not buying new players, but the point is that you only do so if you find an upgrade, which is good value. Personally I don’t think… Read more »
Well, the only possibility for Dembele is a loan deal and you can guarantee that the loan fee won’t be cheap.
Maybe Arsenal sell Ramsey to Barca (he’s hinted it was his dream move before) and we can Dembele on loan with an option to buy.
All the pieces are there. Sven’s a Dembele fan, Raul has Barca ties and Ramsey probably wants Barca.
The only thing we don’t have is money so a loan deal with option to buy actually makes sense.
“When did Wenger ever win in a competitive league?”
What the EPL not competitive enough for you?
certainly much tougher and fiercer than the bundesliga,teams like Burnley and West Ham will give Dortmund a run for their money
“In fact every time another team started investing he sat back and helplessly let them overtake us.”
yes, he pretty much became helpless after the stadium move when oil money sugar daddy owners started pumping money in their teams,buying the shiniest toys I mean it wasn’t much of a level playing ground after that and still yet he kept us in top4
The loan deal makes a lot of sense for Barca.
As for Ramsey to Barca, absolutely no chance.