Well, the new boys have started to drip into the club. Torriera has LANDED which is magnificent. This is him pointing.
Magnificent.
In other news, the stories about us landing Dembele get hotter and hotter. The French wideman has an admirer in Sven M. Barca oddly looking to bin off the magical winger after just one season. I have no idea why they’d consider moving on talent like that, all I know if I LOVE him deeply as a player and think he’d be a fabulous addition to our quite scary attack. Kike Marin, the Spanish God of transfers reckons this could happen… very exciting.
Also, if Barca are offering up a £135m player who is 20 in exchange for Ramsey… well, I don’t want to pack anyone’s bags but come on, that’d be a tasty offer. Ramsey would be on the train to Emanuel Petitville in a season anyway.
OBVIOUSLY I’d like to keep Ramsey, but be real, it’s not looking good.
The Ozil drama carried on into its 16th week, fans in Germany protested on the theme of #IamOzil. Bit dramatic, don’t you think? Guy hung out with the civil rights abuser basket player Enes Kanter called “the Hitler of our century”, now people are protesting his treatment in Germany (the irony), a country that’s lambasted by the hard right the world over for being too kind to immigrants? Please.
Freddi Boban is having NONE OF IT.
“I think that’s a bit cowardly,”
“Ozil’s criticism of social media, especially in the direction of the German Football Association (DFB), is unbearable.
“This blanket charge of racism simply does not correspond to reality. He could have given an interview somewhere, live on TV.
“For us footballers, the rule is ‘be a man and stand up.'”
Freddi, what does it mean to be a man? Why are you leaning on dated stereotypes of masculinity to make a shallow point about racism?
You disgust me.
Anyway, time to sweep this German nonsense under the rug. There’s only one nationality that counts and that’s GOONER. Amirite? Yes. Yes I am.
Right, not a lot to go on today. See you tomorrow!
x
As I pointed out the valuation of both players is similar and Ramsey is home
grown, which attracts premium.
You saying something doesn’t mean anything. Mahrez is a better player and thus he’s worth more and also a club was willing to pay that much for him therefore he’s worth more because someone is only willing to spend 30-40 million for Ramsey.
On another note, I’m glad you brought up Enes Kanter who has the courage to stand up to Erdogan despite his father being hounded. Ozil made a monumental mistake and absolutely should have handled it differently. Giving that thug an Arsenal shirt brought the club into the mess too. This is a leader who has the balls to send his personal security team out to beat up peaceful protesters in the United States while on a diplomatic visit there. Ozil claimed he met with Erodgan to honor his Turkish ancestors. I would think Ozil is actually bringing dishonour on his… Read more »
Victorious are you sure you wanted Arsene gone after the first FA Cup win? Are you sure it isn’t more likely that you wanted him to sign your poster of him with the words luv Arsene xoxo. You little creep
“What the EPL not competitive enough for you?”
Wenger only won the EPL when it was a two horse race and he never defended the title even when he only had to beat UTD.
Just looked at Ramsey’s odds and he’s 1/5 to stay at Arsenal. This might drag on until the January transfer window.
“certainly much tougher and fiercer than the bundesliga,teams like Burnley and West Ham will give Dortmund a run for their money”
You realise Wenger hasnt won the league for 14 years right?
When the window shuts, can foreign clubs still buy PL players?
“You realise Wenger hasnt won the league for 14 years right?
yeah. I do and that’s why he’s currently unemployed
You realise Klopp has LOST SIX finals in a row right?
You realise Wenger couldnt get past the Champs league R16 for 7 seasons?
Ozil 50 Premier league assists includes: 7 corners, 6 freekicks, an own goal, 2 deflections, 5 tap ins, 5 long shots, a keeper parry, 14 crosses and the remainder consisting of square balls, cutbacks and a flick…. .
Marko
You really are something else, Wenger was useless in his later years at the club doesn’t mean he didn’t have us punched above our weight during the austerity years
it’s just pretty sad the standard he set for himself became his ultimate undoing which ensured glory hunters and pompous plastic fans like yourself now demand for success like its a divine right
There’s not much of a debate to be had around Wenger and Klopp.
One was a top manager a long long time ago and hasn’t been competent for years hence the sacking while the other one is improving his club year on year and has them competing for top honours.
Ends there, only one is even relevant anymore and it ain’t old Arsene.
Wenger only won the EPL when it was a two horse race and he never defended the title even when he only had to beat UTD.”
How many teams have successfully defended a title in the EPL?
Nobody demanded success Vic, disingenuous to say as much.
All anybody here ever wanted was for us to be competitive for the top honours, especially the league which we haven’t been for literally a decade.
What was even the point in moving to the Emirates if it would ultimately take the club backwards from a footballing prospective? And make no mistake that’s exactly what has transpired on the pitch.
it’s just pretty sad the standard he set for himself became his ultimate undoing which ensured glory hunters and pompous plastic fans like yourself now demand for success like its a divine right
I don’t demand success only to have my club at least try. Wenger didn’t for many years. Emery in one summer has done more than Arsene in a decade of summers. He’s addressed squad issues and is trying
WE
I believe he truly lost his way in year 2008,when we were on course for a title win his project youth in touching distance of the title… then it happened
Eduardo’s horrific leg break ensured there was a lasting damage to both the man and teams chances of success, the rest to date became history, fine margins really because we could have ended up winning the title and held on to the spine of our squad
Victorious
Eduardo only scored 4 league goals when he suffered his leg break in February.
Emery in one summer has done more than Arsene in a decade of summers.”
Slow down Marko, Emery hasn’t over seen even one premier league match but ofc he’s done more than Ardene in a decade
Do you have an idea of how ridiculous you sound? always make sure your brain and fingers are in sync before posting, will do you a lot of good
Vic
No doubt we were unlucky, Rosicky’s injury was huge as well and just as devastating to the team as Eduardo’s leg break was. He was having a blinder of a season until then, his best ever goal scoring one.
Still my favourite Arsenal team to watch to date, some of the football that season we played was phenomenal. The CL QF loss to Liverpool/ and league losses to Chelsea at SB and United at OT after leading in all three games still hurts to think about, second only to the pain of Paris.
Vic did you not see the bit where I said at least he’s trying. Yes he’s done more in one summer than Arsene has in 10. In fact he’s shown more ambition than Arsene has in a decade without even participating in a competitive match
Red
Eduardo’s contribution was understated that season,he brought much more than goals to the team and was also very important to how we played that season,he was a leader and you could tell with the absolute meltdown from the players the moment he went down, they knew right there it was over
Eduardo was just starting to find his feet too and forming a partnership with Adebayor, that match away at Citeh they were both dynamite.
Wenger is a specialist in failure
Ramsey is a bang average player
Ozil is a complete fraud
Lol, Eduardo was a nothing player.
One of the most overrated in history.
Exactly we played some insane footie that season, I still maintain that was the year the wheels started coming off,the beginning of the end for Wenger if you will, the lose to dippers still hurts, believe we could have made the finals that season with that team
Then again the 2011/12 capital one cup final defeat to Birmingham was just as painful, when we played some mesmerizing footie also that season and how that squad didn’t win a trophy that season continues to bewilder me to date
“Vic did you not see the bit where I said at least he’s trying. Yes he’s done more in one summer than Arsene has in 10. ”
Now you’re just been hypocritical, You would’ve have absolutely pilloried Wenger had he made the signings Emery has made the summer,Torreira maybe,who else?
Let’s be frank the signings hasn’t been that great,its just a matter of hoping Emery’s got the tactical suave to compete, he’s got to be smarter than at least two of Pep, Klopp, Mourinho, Pochetino and Sarri to have improved on Winger and that’s a bit of a tall order
Wouldn’t say that gambon, he was a finisher in a team that lacked one. Would have proved very useful in the run-in.
Guy didn’t have the chance to show his best as Taylor ended his career that day.
I love this idea that Eduardo somehow was instrumental to that team. Up until his leg break he had a measly 4 goals in 17 apps. The way that team just seemed to completely collapse and capitulate was embarrassing and pathetic to watch. Didn’t help that the specialist in failure played Toure at right back and put Senderos in CB instead of playing Eboue at RB and keeping the regular CB pairing in Toure and Gallas. Will never forgive that twat for that.
If one of our rivals had a player that scored 4 goals in half a season, then tried to say his injury ended their season, we would piss ourselves laughing.
Lets have some objectivity.
steve
Never said he was instrumental, he was a useful piece though. Cesc was the heart and soul of the side with Hleb and Adebayor playing huge roles too.
It’d actually remarkable how close we got considering we had a mid-table standard back four and goalkeeper.
WengerEagle
“The CL QF loss to Liverpool/ and league losses to Chelsea at SB and United at OT after leading in all three games still hurts to think about, second only to the pain of Paris.”
A soft underbelly and weak mentality were hallmarks of Wenger teams.
Eduardo may have been on the verge of finding his feet but before that i mean he was in and out of the team. Still liked him though
It’s about context though gambon, he scored those four goals in seven league matches before Birmingham, he was getting to grips with the league.
Twelve overall goals wasn’t a bad return either considering his season ended in February.
WengerEagle
“It’d actually remarkable how close we got considering we had a mid-table standard back four and goalkeeper.”
Lol we were never in the title rsce…
That team really was the beginning of the end for Wenger, that 2008-9 period is when people started realising he didnt have it any more.
Even after we absolutely fucked up our 5 point lead, we had the lead against Chelsea and UTD, only to lose both games.
We were leading the CL tie against Liverpool on 3 separate occasions and kept gifting them a route back into the game.
That was also the first summer that Wenger absolutely butchered a transfer window.
@WengerEagle
I actually disagree about the back four. I thought we had a sound back four. Sagna Toure Gallas Clichy wasn’t amazing but still pretty good. Both Sagna and Clichy got into the PFA team of the year.
I do agree about Almunia though. What a fucking clown that was. And that’s another thing I will never forgive Wenger for. Persisting with him for so long.
it’s very simplistic to just state Eduardo scored 4 goals forgetting how important those goals were for a tram challenging for the title after recovering from injury he established his place in Arsenal’s starting line-up in the Premier League over Christmas and New Year period, scoring his first two Premier League goals in a 4–1 win at Everton on 29 December 2007, first leveling the score and then putting Arsenal 2–1 up in the opening 15 minutes of the second half. On New Year’s Day 2008, he opened the scoring after only 72 seconds of the match against West Ham… Read more »
Yeah the following season was painful, that Emirates thrashing to United in the CL SF was one of the most embarrassing SF ties you’re likely to witness, absolute panic stations and amateur hour with United blitzing us and taking large parts of the second half off, even being nice enough to gift us a late pen to take the hard look off the scoreline.
steve
Sagna was top notch, Clichy was an accident waiting to happen. Wasn’t it his fuck-up that cost us at Birmingham?
Also rated Gallas very highly as a player but three out of five of the back unit were shaky defensively and Gallas was a headcase with Almunia being hilariously bad.
Our midfield was different class though and led to us dominating most matches.
Story might have been different for both Wenger and the club had we clinched the title that season,like I said fine margins
It was a very young team without so much as a winning mentality and had a joke as captain which was a recipe for capitulation .
Kolo Toure was the epitome of a bull in a China shop CB, athletically very gifted but absolutely zero composure on the ball with a mistake in him.
Him and Gallas were short-arses too which frequently led us to us being bullied aerially and conceding at set pieces.
wonder which was the better team, the 2007/2008 Vs 2011/2012..
I loved the trio of Fabregas, Nasri,and RvP..they dominated most matches playing ridiculous passing footie ,was really fun to watch
You have your seasons mixed up there Vic.
Cesc and Nasri both left us the season before.
@WengerEagle
Actually that was never a fuck up from Clichy. It was a clean tackle. Ref bottled it though.
Vidal to Inter Milan.
Their midfield has massively improved this summer, Nainggolan and now Vidal. Also snagged Vrsaljko from Atleti and De Vrij from Lazio on a free.
Quietly doing some great business.
steve
You’re right just watched it back there.
Him being a dozy cunt didn’t do him any favours though.
Oh really what season did they play together
One before Vic.
That season you referred to was the one RVP went nuts with the ghost of Cesc inhabiting Song’s body.
That Birmingham game is the most painful memory I have as an Arsenal fan. Because things could have been way different. Way different. “It was very, very important for use to win the title and the players next to me were very young. I was mad. Gallas also revealed that the result at St. Andrew’s was very well-received at Manchester United, who went on to take the Premier League crown that season. “I spoke to [Patrice Evra] on the same day or the day after and he told me about Alex Ferguson when he conceded the penalty. He jumped up… Read more »
And inter look like keeping Icardi and Perisic. Just a shame they’ll be ending up 15 points at a minimum behind Ronaldo and Juve this season
“That season you referred to was the one RVP went nuts with the ghost of Cesc inhabiting Song’s body.”
LOL.
Song played like he rounded up the infinity stones that season.
Sadly the twat never knew how to get back while we’re were 6s & 7s
Be interesting to see how Ronaldo does in Italy, be amazed if he doesn’t crack at least twenty plus goals in the league even at his age.
But yeah, Juventus winning the league is a formality at this stage. Napoli at their peak couldn’t get over the line.
Nice work by Inter, indeed.
Sadly, they haven’t exactly brought the average age of their squad down, though they have increased their chances of top 4 with Radja and Vidal.
Yeah Carts not a long term project with the ages of Vidal, Perisic, Miranda, Handanovic, Nainggolan, etc and the inevitability of losing Icardi but should reap decent rewards next season.
Havent they nicked a Champions League spot off the Bundesliga?
So to surmise, it appears unanimous that fans thought wenger at best began to lose it in the 07/08 season yet the sympathisers still cheered on and were happy for him to stay another 10 years and fucking make us the 6th best side in EPL and that “plastic” ST holders like me were bang out of order for trying to force the fucking fraud out of the club . Yep, all makes perfect sense…. to 12 year olds and little pees and any other sympathiser numpties.
gambon: “If one of our rivals had a player that scored 4 goals in half a season, then tried to say his injury ended their season, we would piss ourselves laughing. Lets have some objectivity.” A certain 26 yo guy applying his trade in Serie C this season will not agree with you. Federico Macheda. 2 goals, 4 points. United had 2 losses in a row so a draw with Sunderland would have surely hurt their chances so much. Anyone can score or be the reason for a crucial goal. Just remember Ryan fking Babel. And Juliano motherfking Belletti. A… Read more »
Samni you say ozil played with no clinical forwards at arsenal, just giroud and welbeck. How have you forgotten Sanchez??? And like I said, you cannot reduce a players contribution down to a single stat, ie chance creation and even more so compare them on this considering Cesc’s assists stats were the same ballpark whilst he simultaneously was putting the team on his back, leading by example, showing up in big games, dying for the cause and throwing pizza at Ferguson Their capacity for assists was in the same ball park but cesc dominates ozil in absolutely every other department.… Read more »
“As someone else said, losing cesc brought on a period of mourning in me too.”
Saddest thing is that as many trophies he would win eventually, the day he left us was the last day that he would be worldwide considered absolute top notch. Maybe, if he could turn back time, he would remain our player.
“So to surmise, it appears unanimous that fans thought wenger at best began to lose it in the 07/08 season yet the sympathisers still cheered on and were happy for him to stay another 10 years and fucking make us the 6th best side in EPL and that “plastic” ST holders like me were bang out of order for trying to force the fucking fraud out of the club . Yep, all makes perfect sense…. to 12 year olds and little pees and any other sympathiser numpties.” Sums it up perfectly UTarse Report this morning in the press that Emery… Read more »
Klopp and poch as of now are both failures in epl. Wenger has succeeded beyond both in the last 4 seasons.
Remembered that was the logic used in bashing Wenger in the 11 seasons he qualified for Champs lge. We all said ONLY trophies counted. Now y’all want to say trophies don’t count anymore?
You can’t have it both ways
Not for me Sanmi. League title & CL trophies are the only measure of success. CL qualification is not a success; it’s a financial advantage if you qualify and a way to attract better players. That said only 2 top tier trophies are available each season, so I would expect us to seriously challenge for both each season and win them occasionally, and we have never won the CL and no league title for 14 years. Minor cups (League and FA) are ok but not a barometer of real success. So yes, Klopp and Poch are UK failures to date,… Read more »
I should add if Emery is getting close to winning the title after his 3rd season, he should be given more time.
By close I mean runner up with less than 9 points off the winning club. This to me would represent a legitimate title challenge.
Looks like United are putting Zidane as top of their wish list to replace Mourinho.
Klopp and poch as of now are both failures in epl. Wenger has succeeded beyond both in the last 4 seasons.”
Jesus.
“Lets look at what Ozil has done since his stat pad season, in the last 2 seasons in comparison to similar players: Ozil ; 14.5 goals and assists per season, 1.55 defensive actions per game De Bruyne: 24 goals and assists per season, 2.5 defensive actions per game Silva: 15.5 goals and assists per season, 2.3 defensive actions per game Eriksen: 21.5 goals and assists per season, 2.6 defensive actions per game So just to confirm, Ozil has the least goals of any of these players. Ozil has the least assists of any of these players Ozil has the lowest… Read more »
Kevin de bruyne is on 350k pw or more at City.
Tits
were you astonished as to how true the statements were? Wenger had 3 Fa Cups in previous 4 seasons while Klopp had 3 finals he all lost. Poch, the lesser said the better
Mystic
I read that KDB basic is £200k p/w.
With the rest made up of bonuses.
WE
a very mature core of players. Skrinrar amd De Vrij are both young. And Vrasalko and that left back also have youth on their side.
I think you might be right that they’re surpassed deBindesliga co-efficient
Carts, it will largely be the same with Ozil. How rational Arsenal fans will think Arsenal as is will dole out 350kpw basic to ozil bewilders me
For me it’s all about one thing. TO BE ABLE TO COMPETE. Top 4 in season one would be great. To show a desire and hunger against all the teams and to prove against the elite teams that they’re prepared to fight and give it everything. That’s all the fans ask. No more CL qualification for financial gain. Go out to win it. Show tactical aptitude and work as a team. Arsenal possess more than enough players to hurt any opposition. After Wenger our expectations are simple. Just give it a go and prove to us and yourselves that you… Read more »
Mystic
Naturally you’d imagine so.
Only caveat to this is that City renewed KDB’s deal with 2.5 years left where as Arsenal did it at the 11th hour…
……………Cech
Bellend Papa mustafi nacho
Nzonzi. ……….. Torreria
Mikki. …….ozil…winger
………….Auba
Looks balanced to me.
Carts
in the end Ozil and De bruyne had different selling points. Man city was a winning machine and De Bruyne was central to it and they won’t stop winning quicky while Arsenal were a failing club under a past it manager with things looking gloomy. Ozil has to be convinced with much more than ambition.
I reckon Ozil is on 250k pw basic with the other 100 on payouts and incentives
@ Santino
Mustafi? Seriously
Statistics! Statistics! Statistics!!!!
Please, give it a rest.
Oh yeh and while you’re at it, let’s put Ozil to bed.
Santino, there’s 8 days to go and only silly rumours to go by. I would bet that we have concluded our transfer business. Ironically, if Mr Burns was still in charge I’d be more expectant of a late signing.
I can’t see us buying another CB in this window. But a winger and nzonzi is doable.So mustafi with some coaching is my choice over chambers.
Who puts Cech in over our new £20m keeper?
Cech is done.
I will pick Chambers over Mustafi
On stays on his feet and looks to get a block in
The other goes to ground and is easily bypassed.
However Mustafi does have his great days if i am being honest.
@LeftsidesanchAugust
I think club is waiting for some brain-dead offers ( Ala liverpool last year)for our players. If by some dumb luck they can move some furniture ,will definetly buy new ones.
For real, who the hell would want Cech to start as our no.1?
“Kevin de bruyne is on 350k pw or more at City.”
Well deserved, compared to who you know…
“Oh yeh and while you’re at it, let’s put Ozil to bed.”
Why ?? He’s got the flu already ??
Leno
Bellerin,Mustafi,Mav,Montreal
Xhaka,Torreira
Ozil,Ramsey,Auba
Lacazette
Cech and Mustafi are relics from Wenger’s mistake riddled years. These players were shit when we bought them and certainly won’t improve.
Arsenal must get ruthless.
And there is no Inter deal for Vidal yet…you guys speak of it like it’s a done deal, yet they only want him if they cannot get Modric
Santino
Your lineup will indeed require Mustafi.
He is your only capable passer in deep positions.
I am not convinced at all with Nzonzi. He only worked against England’s aerial bombardment. Kante is the better option for club football.
It’s a skewed 442,
Santino, None of the players surplus to requirements will fetch any decent fees I don’t think. You may get a scramble with some clubs panicking and end up picking up some of the trash, but I can imagine that most of them will probably still be here when the tw closes. Outside the lack of a wide player who can beat his man/score and another mid/cb thats where we could have improved this summer – selling our dross. That being said, we all knew we weren’t going to remedy our problems in one summer. You can argue that left back… Read more »
Also, any player that backed Wenger should be out. Shame we can’t do the same with the fans.
Facilitating jerks.
I actually have this feeling that Bellerin and Mustafi may have decent seasons
I don’t get the clamour for a new DM, that’s not really even a Dm.
You already have Torreira. U can pair with xhaka, Ramsey, AMN, and Guendouzi.
No way you are signing anyone there. We are done. A new signing will want to play 1st 11.
And there’s no room
Guns
Heh, I am here to stay and haunting you every day.
Leftside
You absolute optimist! Trash players I’m afraid.
Anyone that supported Wenger probably advocates the killing of sea lion pups. Probably.
Kittens? Forget about it.
Guns,
Jesus turned water into wine! Anything’s poss.
I’m literally banking on the defensive coaching helping those two out. They both initially showed promise when joining then went down the path that most did in the later Wenger years.
Left.
Monreal has been one of our consistent performers. LB and RB isn’t an issue.
Midfield issue is sorted.
Only CB I’m not comfortable with.
Wingers are debatable, it all depends on the coaches set up.
Alex Fergie and Ranieri won epl without Wingers that can beat their men. In some setup it’s not a requirement
Leftside
I agree with Bellend but not Mustafi. But I feel that Bellend started to believe the hype and the Barca rumours.
I like him though. Seems to be more interesting than your normal run of the mill douche bag footballer.
But, if an offer came in for him, I’d sell. I’d give him this season.
Remove Ranieri, I forgot about mahrez.
But you get my point.
Fucking spurs play well in big games without a winger
Sanmi,
I like Monreal, but he’s advancing in years now and the jury is still out on Kolasinac aswell. I would have liked another CB, and I’m more okay about the midfield than some. We still haven’t replaced Sanchez. Thats the thing for me.
Alex Ferguson played without wingers…..
Fuck me i’ve heard everything now.
Do some Le-Grovers actually watch Arsenal, or football at all?