Well, the new boys have started to drip into the club. Torriera has LANDED which is magnificent. This is him pointing.
Magnificent.
In other news, the stories about us landing Dembele get hotter and hotter. The French wideman has an admirer in Sven M. Barca oddly looking to bin off the magical winger after just one season. I have no idea why they’d consider moving on talent like that, all I know if I LOVE him deeply as a player and think he’d be a fabulous addition to our quite scary attack. Kike Marin, the Spanish God of transfers reckons this could happen… very exciting.
Also, if Barca are offering up a £135m player who is 20 in exchange for Ramsey… well, I don’t want to pack anyone’s bags but come on, that’d be a tasty offer. Ramsey would be on the train to Emanuel Petitville in a season anyway.
OBVIOUSLY I’d like to keep Ramsey, but be real, it’s not looking good.
The Ozil drama carried on into its 16th week, fans in Germany protested on the theme of #IamOzil. Bit dramatic, don’t you think? Guy hung out with the civil rights abuser basket player Enes Kanter called “the Hitler of our century”, now people are protesting his treatment in Germany (the irony), a country that’s lambasted by the hard right the world over for being too kind to immigrants? Please.
Freddi Boban is having NONE OF IT.
“I think that’s a bit cowardly,”
“Ozil’s criticism of social media, especially in the direction of the German Football Association (DFB), is unbearable.
“This blanket charge of racism simply does not correspond to reality. He could have given an interview somewhere, live on TV.
“For us footballers, the rule is ‘be a man and stand up.'”
Freddi, what does it mean to be a man? Why are you leaning on dated stereotypes of masculinity to make a shallow point about racism?
You disgust me.
Anyway, time to sweep this German nonsense under the rug. There’s only one nationality that counts and that’s GOONER. Amirite? Yes. Yes I am.
Right, not a lot to go on today. See you tomorrow!
x
DM
Bankz is here again for the Tr4phy
BOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Tr4phy
Late
Fuck off DM.
I thought I had this today
I am begging to believe that Pedro is DM as well
Please let the rumours be true and we can get him. Think we would also need to replace Ramsey if this happens unless Mikki takes his place in that position
only way Barcelona are swapping Dembele for Ramsey is if they’ve recently hired Bobby Pires and put him in charge of transfers.
The sad lives some folk live
10 it is
mysticleaves
From previous post.
Obviously you’ve never been to Qatar.
You do realise that the domestic calendar of every footballing country will have to be altered, which is fundamentally crazy.
I’m all for globalization and the modernization of the game but not at the expense of moral and ethical guidelines.
Hundreds of thousands of fans descending on a tiny country that, to all intents and purposes, doesn’t want them to be there, is going to be make interesting viewing.
As for Blatter…………..lol!!
Obviously if we can have Dembele, I’ll take him. But I’m not quite sure where we would play him, or in what formation. We seem to be overloaded with players that I can’t quite figure out where to stick them. I think my first choice formation about now would be this: —————–Leno————— Bel–Mustafi—Pap—Monreal —————Torriera————- ——Mikki————Rambo— —————-Ozil—————— ——–Auba——-Laca———– Don’t get me wrong, I’d love for us to have the strength in depth to have a striker like Lacazette on the bench, but honestly, I think he’d be wasted there. I’d rather be playing him and Auba together and smashing 5 past… Read more »
Lol Torreira will get fachion lessons from Bellerin…
No one answered, so I ask to Pedro, because he nose best : we play the chavs twice in the ICC, one game on august 1th, the other on august 4th…
Why playing them twice ?? One time would clearly be enough…
*fashion
“Hundreds of thousands of fans descending on a tiny country that, to all intents and purposes, doesn’t want them to be there, is going to be make interesting viewing.” So Qatar wants a fan less world cup I guess. No, haven’t been to Qatar but I suspect their weather is close to that of UAE and the wider sub Saharan deserts of Africa. See, if players and fans especially ones in Europe didn’t feel the need to be mollycoddled, the games would have gone on in the summer maybe towards the evening, with some considerations of water breaks like in… Read more »
Highbury, you were answered in the last post. the 4th game is against Lazio not chavs.
As for Dembele, if we get him on a swap for Ramsey we won’t need to replace Ramsey and anything he does. He will be an outlet on the wings as Ramsey was through the centre.
People must realize that Leno is going to be number one going forward. Until he fucks up he’s number one. With what we paid and apparently he’s impressing in training too.
Barca? There’d be a whole queue of top clubs lining up for Ramsay. He is ridiculously under-rated by a lot of people on here.
Emery thinks he will stay, and he should know.
Thanks mystic, Sky Sports just update it.
Well, erm… I’m sorry, but I’m not dreaming!!
http://www.skysports.com/arsenal
Valverde in his last interview said he wouldnt mind another midfielder and one that gives them the option of attacking the box. Could have sworn he was talking about Ramsey…
All right, in fact those idiots thinks that we could be able to play 2 different games at the same time…
Or maybe it is the ladies team playing ?? lol
Pedros definatelly DM!
The window closes in 9 days, there’s nothing concrete to suggest that Dembele comes apart from people adding 2 and 2 and getting 5 based off his social media interactions with a few of our squad. I can’t see it happening, or any wide player.
Highbury, it’s not on the dot com. So who to believe? Sky or Arsenal? I believe it was a scheduling mistake that was later corrected by us but neglected by sky
reddi Boban is having NONE OF IT. “I think that’s a bit cowardly,” “Ozil’s criticism of social media, especially in the direction of the German Football Association (DFB), is unbearable. “This blanket charge of racism simply does not correspond to reality. He could have given an interview somewhere, live on TV. “For us footballers, the rule is ‘be a man and stand up.’” Been saying it since day 1. Ozil crying racism was a “get out of jail free” tactic. He was getting his share of the criticism for WC 2018(in addition to others as well) and he hit back… Read more »
Tonyd was in bed with his thai bride and she was stroking his cock.
Tony was so happy that his thai bride was given his cock so much attention and asked her “do you really like my cock so much”
She replies “No, not really….. I just miss mine”
Michael24,
“Hundreds of thousands of fans descending on a tiny country that, to all intents and purposes, doesn’t want them to be there, is going to be make interesting viewing.”
Doesn’t want them to be there ? I mean I’m all for your opinion but then you say something like that and it makes you sound like a fool my friend.
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Yossi Benayong…
#WengerBanter
Whilst I realise Dembele is a fantastic young talent I would question the price paid and valuation of him. A close examination of his stats reveal that he was just one season at Borussia Dortmund and also one further season at Barcelona. On both occasions he played between 50-60 minutes per game. That does not suggest to me that he is necessarily going to be able to play on a regular basis 80-90 minutes per game for us. Clearly at 20 he is going to improve, but I do still have concern about spending potentially £100 million for that level… Read more »
It’s insane to think that Barca would want Ramsey. He is actually not that good.
Would drive him to Barcelona myself if it gets us Dembele. Maybe they could take Ozil off our hands too.
Ozil+Ramsey+cash for Dembele
Giddy up.
I value Dembele times more than say Lemar. Atleti just paid 70m euro for Lemar coming from a seriously average season. Dembele is top 3 young talent in the world probably. If Mbappe is first, Dembele is second. I rest my case again that the kid in 10 years could be looked as our greatest ever winger if he decides to join us.
“What does it mean to be a man” “dated stereotypes of masculinity” “shallow point about racism” Pete. WTF? Seriously mate if I want New York democrat progressive claptrap I’ll read the Guardian. You’ve got more than enough great stuff in your head to stick to football and leave the political sideshow to others. Ozil has been criticised because he had a poor World Cup, again looking lazy and disinterested. Others got less criticism because while they were poor they are not consistently lazy and disinterested. With Ozil it’s a clear and ongoing pattern. Don’t you think the Germans have seen… Read more »
Being a man is the definition of masculinity. And we want men to behave like men when playing football. This modern craze of denying men their masculinity – while encouraging women to behave like men – seems very silly.
Smacks of militant, left wing emotional crap.
Like Biggles above, I think a 4-1-2-1-2 would be the most ideal formation presently. In the absence of a winger, I’d prefer to see a front two of Auba and Laca.
Ramsey + $$ for Dembele would be super awesome!
Dembele is the missing link in my eyes. Get him and we will be a top team again. The excitement will be back. Guy is a baller and a half and we will give him all the tools to succeed. It’s a pipe dream. No doubt about it. But it was to happen I’d be enthused about our team again. Atm no one in our team makes me go WOAW. I’ll kill myself the moment we are all full of physical players and no flair ones. Spud like. Dembele would make us exciting again.
@ raptora
Dembele would be an amazing addition. But it wouldn’t solve our problem as I still think we lack a proper leader in midfield. I just don’t think Ramsey is the answer. I would love to be proved wrong though.
IMO opinion, Dembele is more talented than Mbappe. Of course he’s two years older but once the wow factor of Mbappe clears in two years and he earns a move to a big club I would like to see how he gets on.
“I still think we lack a proper leader in midfield.”
*cough* Xhaka*cough
@ mystic
Xhaka?
Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Thanks mate, that’s cheered me right up. It’s been a shitty morning.
All this “Pedro is DM” stuff really is the biggest compliment to my tr4phy-hunting prowess you could give me 😀
Must be annoying as hell for Pedro though!
@mysticleaves
Once Mbappe earns a move to a big club? PSG, aka the-richest-club-in-the-world, not quite big enough?
Ramsey is a good player when being a disciplined CM and no more than that, if Chelsea offer 35-40 take the money, if Barca want a swap do the swap . let’s be done with the Wenger sympathizers , don’t think any of us can be bothered with this contract crap any longer “oh i don’t know whats going on but I need £300 000 and a signing on fee ” offer him 200,000 a week and if he don’t except sell him or just leave him in the reserves and let him go on a free at the end… Read more »
Dembele as I said is a talented footballer, but someone who plays on average
50-60 minutes per game is not worth £100 Million + Transfer fee.
Also I read constantly criticisms about both Ozil and Ramsey. Yet their goalscoring + assists is superior to Dembele.
It seems to me that there are posters who will always want the latest fashion model at the expense of players who have been with us 5-10 years.
Is it really likely that Barca will suffer a €100m loss in just 1 year by letting Dembele go?
I am incredulous that this can happen but it would need a loss of that magnitude for us to be in the races for him
Q: And just quickly, fans love knowing this because they don’t get to watch EPL training ever – who are the best trainers both with the ball and also physically? Darren Burgess: I remember watching Mesut Ozil against Australia in South Africa on that fateful day against Germany and I thought he was unbelievable. He doesn’t get the credit he deserves because he looks so laconic. I liken him a bit to Mark Waugh who I watched growing up. I’m yet to see him dispossessed in training even by bigger players and more physical players he’s just unbelievable. And the… Read more »
WE
re: MLS
I don’t bet on MLS, but when I have, I usually do over 2.5 goals.
What’s funny about MLS, is that simply looking at team form usually informs how many goals will be scored during the 90mins.
Also, is there a reason why the winners of the MLS don’t get considered for the FIFA World Club cup?
Wallace
This is of course something that the armchair tv viewers never see when they watch games.
Those who criticise Ozil never watch his movement around the pitch. They only see him when he is actually on the ball.
Dembele, at club level, has 67 starts in which he has 24 goals and 29 assists. That’s a a goal or assist per 0.80 game. So in 5 starts he will score or assist 4 times. In 13 starts at Barca he’s got 4 goals and 6 assists. Which is in correlation of the above trend. Got 2 MotM for them as well which is not that easy to achieve at Barca. We’re talking for a superstar in the making. I think that there’s no chance that Barca sells him. Why would they? Going for who? Hazard? He wants Madrid,… Read more »
Carts
The winner of the Concacaf CL (North American CL) is invited to the World Club Championship
ES,
Dembele is fantastic and would actually be a coup even if we spend 100m for him. He was already excellent in France before BVB(on Sven’s recommendation) spent 17m on him. When barca came knocking with Neymar’s money, BVB milked every penny they could as barca cut their nose off to spite face.
He put up ridiculous numbers two seasons straight. If he were to come, we will have the scariest attack in the country.
Dream Dembele, Dream!
Can we just offer a take it or leave it offer to Ramsey? A good player he is but to hold the club by the throat is becoming boring and irritating.
I see another midfielder and a winger coming in.
Ornstein’s reputation will but questioned. just as last season.
Lemar went for less than what we were ready to pay for last season.
speaks volume about the kind of administration we were in. It’s all for good.
Raptora
Sorry what you posted is not reflected in stats published on Transfermarkt in
games played in Bundesliga, La Liga or Champions League
Bundesliga
Played 32 6 goals 13 assists 340 mins per goal 2,040 mins played
La Liga
Played 17 3 goals 7 assists 310 mins per goal 1,940 mins played
Champions League
Played 13 3 goals 6 assists 304 mins per goal 930 mins played
Decent performance for player of his age but hardly mega.
“Also, if Barca are offering up a £135m player who is 20 in exchange for Ramsey… well.”
Barca would be barking mad!!!
If you want to make comparison take a look at stats of Mbappe.
Ligue 1 68 games 29 goals 19 assists 137 mins per goal 3,959 mins played
CL 17 games 10 goals 3 assists 119 mins per goal 1,194 mins played
ES,
There’s the statistics
https://www.whoscored.com/Players/299513/History/Ousmane-Demb%C3%A9l%C3%A9
You don’t count his Rennes goals (12) and assist (5).
I said starts because I’m aware that he has 21 games from the bench. Which is the right thing to do when you have a young player in your hands. And then the Barca injury happened so he was not really part of their team.
“Emery thinks he will stay, and he should know.”
Is this the new Arsene Knows.. 😛
Number games lol. That every player should be judged on goals and assists these days is the worst thing that has happened to football.
It’s not the racism against Ozil…it’s his utter shitness that people have a beef with.
That bulbous eyed cartoon looking bastard has less backbone than a French soldier.
Ramsay is shit.
“bulbous eyed cartoon looking bastard”
lol
HL
I have literally hundreds more.
How much would we have to pay, Ramsey and £50-60 Million?
Not sure what would happen to our midfield then, a 4-2-3-1 with Torreria and Xhaka in central midfield? That puts a lot of pressure on Torreira from the off unless we are looking to try and find a clever CM buy as well.
Dembele’s stats are not bad at all for someone who supposedly struggled last season and had injuries, 17 appearances 3 goals and 6 assists.
Goals is something we would need him to improve on but he had 12 assists in his last season at BvB playing with Aubameyang.
@ Wallace @ Stroller As many of us on here are not armchair TV viewers we can judge by what we see. It’s a shame so much of Ozil’s sheer brilliance doesn’t translate into consistently creating good scoring opportunities or trying to even chase down, let alone tackle an opponent, when he’s given away possession. Surely with all the scouts that watch our every minute of our games you would think this brilliance would translate into a ready market for Ozil with many clubs talking about how they plan to sign him. Maybe the scouts also fail to recognise this… Read more »
Dream10
Ah, my bad. Thanks for correction.
I think doing away with Ramsey, getting in Dembele give us more balance.
I’m here for that!
If we can agree an initial loan fee, say £10m, then wrap up the signing next season for an additional £50m. Wishful, I know.
Get rid of Welbeck and Ramsey and we could raise £50m-£60m to facilitate the deal this summer or next.
Carts
Could well be something like that.
£10 Million and Ramsey this summer, which would be paid from the Ospina and Perez fees, then something like £40 Million next summer which could be paid from the UCL money basically.
I see a lot of folks losin their sh*t about Dembele.
But
Does anyone really think we are going to spunk 100 plus million on a single player?
Guys, please give me a reason that Barca would need money at the moment? Who would they realistically go for? They would sell one of the hottest prospects in the world to fund a Rabiot/Nzonzi deal?! Come on. But, yeah would honestly want to know who would their target be if they cash on Dembele.
@ raptora
Ozil.
InsideRight,
If it did happen I’d celebrate that day every year for the rest of my life. No joke.
Worth noting what an absolute steal Torreira is gonna end up. Especially when you consider that Chelsea are apparently trying to sign Vecino for over 30 million. Ours is way better
That is the end of any Ramsey interest from Chelsea then
Strollers attempt of a takedown on Dembele is cringe worthy considering his age, he’s a different player towards Ramsey and Ozil and he’s not a striker so his comparison with Mbappe is stupid.
Higuain on loan to AC Milan, due to his incompatibility with CR7 at Juve…
lol many Napoli fans must be so pleased.
Dembele isn’t a prospect at age 20 (my view). He’s a player with time on his side and could become great but as to why Barca wil sell beats my imagination.
If we get him good but if it ain’t happening, I hope we got a plan B.
Dembele seems to be our priority for a winger. My plan b is Bailey or Fekir (though he isn’t an out n out winger) or Cuadrado. Anyone with a different choice? Not forgetting Lozano.
Max Meyer is off to Palace. Good for them.
dembele….looks a very good player…no way worth 100million….has a few weaknesses and seems inconsistent. possibly over-hyped.
He only managed average ratings for the france games in the wc.
I would rate him 50m tops.
Now perisic…..that’s a different beast….
Cesc
It really is quick math.
I mean, we’ve shown pragmatism so far, so why not crank it up a little more. We’ve got players who aren’t good enough and I’m sure with a little bit more ruthlessness we can shift them on over the next couple weeks.
Welbeck
Ramsey
Perez
Ospina
Come off it
Dembele is already a far far better player than Perisic despite the 8 year age gap.
I guess Ronaldo will be Juventus’ #9 this season, then.
Brutally got rid off Higuaín. I’m not even mad lol
“Dembele is already a far far better player than Perisic despite the 8 year age gap.”
don’t agree with “far far”.
An argument that he’s better is one thing, but even if he is, it isn’t by a big margin.
InsideRight
“It’s a shame so much of Ozil’s sheer brilliance doesn’t translate into consistently creating good scoring opportunities or trying to even chase down, let alone tackle an opponent, when he’s given away possession.”
he’s the fastest to 50 assists in Premier League history, and that’s while feeding Giroud & Walcott….what are you talking about?
“don’t agree with “far far”. ”
Me neither.
Take away the 15/16 season and Ozil has barely contributed for Arsenal.
I’m fact just take away the first half of that season and he has clearly been absolutely average for 90% of his time here.
It’s also very noticeable that the only good season he has had was during the worst PL season in history.
If we sell welbz Ramsey Perez and Ospina that’s gotta be a solid 55m+. That goes a long long way towards a serious winger without touching our best starting 11.
Do it Ivan. Do it.
Selling Ospina would deplete the team of much needed quality.
@ Wallace So where is the queue to sign him? Or could it be the stats don’t tell the whole story? Perhaps they don’t break down the quality of the chances, or show where his touches were, or deal with tackles, tracking back, the graft of linking up play. Perhaps they just underline he is a luxury player who sits waiting for the ball to be given to him so he can send it across the six yard box hoping someone is there to get on the end of it? No matter. In his time here so far he’s not… Read more »
Can’t wait for Redtwat to find out that not only has Ospina gone on a free effectively but he’s also going to be number 2 at Besiktas.
China
How do you get to £55 million?
“Dembele is more talented than Mbappe.”
Sacrilege.
““don’t agree with “far far”. ”
me three. I wouldn’t mind perisic at all. Dembele is more enticing because of age and potential to do even more
Ramsey plus 20million for Zaha would work just fine for me
lol. Ramsey to palace?
Batistuta
You think Ramsey is declining contracts to force a move to Crystal Palace?
Lol
Frosinone want to take Perez on loan apparently, we really have accumulated some shit at this club or just broken players through misuse or given them too much money making them hard to move on in the transfer market.
InsideRight
“So where is the queue to sign him? Or could it be the stats don’t tell the whole story?”
dunno man, some stats you can bend to suit your narrative, but goals and assists…they’re pretty much what it says on the tin. there are actual youtube compilations of quite serious length of Walcott & Giroud messing up Ozil through balls.
Zaha is like a raw Gervinho.