#WelcomePépé

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You can chill those Heinz Baked beans, it seems that the deal to bring Pépé to Arsenal is basically done. Fabrizio Romano, who has been on top of this story even when it was a ‘OH DO FU*K OFF’ pipe dream, reckons the deal is done and the player is wetting his bed in excitement for the move.

I don’t need to continue to wax about this, but really, it’s the most exciting transfer of the last 10 years for Arsenal. We know he wants to move to us, he’s not a reject, his career is on an upwards trajectory.

… I still can’t quite believe it’s happening.

I’m also glad that this summer has well and truly seen the death of the ITK crowd. We’re back to journo’s knowing more. I much prefer things that way.

We still have our cuck fanbase praising Wenger for being part of the deal. Sure, Pépé wants to come to Arsenal, but be real, Raul having a relationship with Jorge Mendes is why this is happening, nothing to do with what we were doing 20 years ago. The pound notes speak and we’re finally dealing with the right agents that can make things happen.

Interestingly, Monaco are rumoured to be entertaining a €30m bid for Mustafi. Jorge Mendes has deep ties over there. He’s moved lots of names in and out of that club. It really wouldn’t be surprising to see us shift out players because we’re greasing the right sort of wheels with the Pépé deal.

I think moving on Mustafi would be the biggest deal of the summer. It would be absolutely unreal. I think I would write Raul a thank you note.

It’s been very amusing to watch certain Arsenal fans sanctimoniously slamming fans when it comes to his treatment. He’s a leach. He’s here because we make it too easy for him to stink out our defence. Why shouldn’t fans hound him out? To say it’s not Arsenal class to boo player just shows a lack of understanding of our history. I’ve been there when we’ve booed Eboue. Fans in the 80s were militant about moving on Terry Neil with protests. Away fans hounded Wenger at Stoke station. Arsenal fans were booing players as far back as the Chapman days. Fans were even booing in 2004!

Sure, it’s not nice. But this is elite sport. This isn’t dopey Dave the intern that keeps messing up the coffee run. He shouldn’t be given the choice to stay. He should go to Monaco and enjoy the good life. Then we should go out and sign someone better so we can crack on with a better defence.

If Gareth Bale can be shoved out a year after signing a new deal in Madrid after netting 4 European Cups, then Mustafi can be as well.

There is no class in accepting mediocrity.

Right, that’s me done, see you in the comments.

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  1. Valentin

    Nelson,

    I would divide the EPL into 3 types of team.
    The Big 6. Against them, especially away from home, we should try to play on the counter-attack. Trying to overplay ManCity or Liverpool is suicide

    The Hopefuls.
    That the team that have aspiration to either finish 7 or possible get into the top 6: Everton, Watford, Wolves, Leicester, West Ham and possibly Newcastle if they invest wisely. Against those we should be a 4-3-2-1.

    The Cannons fodder
    Those that will fight against relegation. Against them a 4-2-3-1 with Özil to spread passes should do the job. However the two defensive midfielder need to be mobile and quick. So no Xhaka there.

  2. fsaf

    Something towards Pierre as he had claimed how Emery doesn’t like flair players.

    Well look at that. We got 2 of the best young dribblers in the game in Ceballos and Pepe. Very gifted technically. We’d expected players like Fraser and Maddison. Something doesn’t add up.

  3. Valentin

    Receding,

    I have already explained and so has the Telegraph article you were quoting. You are just too entrenched to realise it.

    Both play on the shoulder of the last defender, making diagonal run from the right to the left to score. Both are counter-attacking players. If the opposition has 5 corners and 5 dangerous free-kick, that means Arsenal will have at most 10 opportunities to counter-attack. Having more counter-attacking players will not increase that numbers. Still only 10 opportunities.

    The main difference between the players is that Pepe will be more defensively aware and that he will contribute to the play while Aubameyang will lurk in the penalty box.

    Both have been moulded for two years by the same coach: Christophe Galthier. It is therefore logical that they share the same characteristics and style of play. If you go back and watch both players before him, you will find that they had a different style of playing. Pepe was more a dribbler for the sake of it, with poor end product.

  4. Marc

    Valentin

    For someone who analyses systems you’re not very good at it. Firstly you need to breakdown system between home and away. You only mention that against the “top 6” teams, there are plenty of lower level teams in the PL who are dangerous at home and playing Ozil in these matches is borderline suicide.

  5. Pierre

    Dream10
    Agree. I think we should have targeted a solely defensive midfielder .that’s why I believe an Nzonzi type player is exactly what we need.

    And yes a 4-2-3-1 works as long as we have 2 defensive/holding midfielders
    Something I have been advocating for a few years now.

    However I don’t believe Emery will play with 2 defensive midfielders that is why he will probably go 4-3-3.

    Umtiti is worth the risk if he is available…

  6. Un na naai

    I don’t see Aubameyang and Pepe as having the same game at all

    Pepe is superior. Aubameyang offers very little on the ball and very little physically for a tall athletic man.

    For me Pépé combines many of the best qualities of lacazette and Aubameyang

  7. vickingz

    I’m happy for the acquisitions so far and the prospects before us, what a time to be an arsenal fan. I hope emery signs an upgraded version of his brain this season. He was bailed out last season on the ground that he only had wenger’s players to play with even though it was obvious he blew things up by complicating relatively simple issues. The jury is out for him this season. He better sorts himself out

  8. Marc

    “Both play on the shoulder of the last defender, making diagonal run from the right to the left to score”

    “while Aubameyang will lurk in the penalty box.”

  9. China1

    Valentin Auba also sometimes from the left side of the attack

    You seriously think these two top quality players are so limited that they both have one single offensive approach that can be utilized?

    They’re not Mesut Ozil. Lol.

  10. Pierre

    Fsaf

    Are you forgetting that Emery has no input on signings .
    We have been told this many times on Le Grove during the Suarez debacle.

    Let’s see if Emery plays the flair player (ceballos)

  11. Valentin

    Marc,

    Give the system and name the teams instead of throwing statements without any backing.
    Otherwise it is just “you’re wrong and I know better” style of trolling …

  12. Receding Hairline

    “The main difference between the players is that Pepe will be more defensively aware and that he will contribute to the play while Aubameyang will lurk in the penalty box.”

    Valentin in a nutshell above you just dismissed all your own analysis for the hot air it is. We have a guy who is a penalty box player and one who contributes more to play and you are somehow suggesting they cannot play together simply because they had the same coach growing up. Come on!!!!

    “Both play on the shoulder of the last defender, making diagonal run from the right to the left to score. Both are counter-attacking players”

    Aubameyang is an out and out striker, how many ggoals really has he scored at Arsenal running off the shoulder of the last defender?? Do you even watch our games??

  13. Ishola70

    Valentin

    I wouldn’t be as critical of you as others in implying having players of a similar style but you do realise opportunities to counter attack do not stem just from opposition corners and freekicks. Counter attack opportunities can arise from many other instances away from those two scenarios all over the pitch when the ball is won back from the opposition in open play.

    As for Pepe being more astute defensively than Auba well that wouldn’t be hard to achieve but Pepe himself is noted to have a weak defensive contribution as well. Both weak in what they offer off the ball defensively.

  14. China1

    How many of key moments and contributions were even out on the right?

    Most of his goals came from around the 6 yard box because he’s a poacher who loves to latch on to crosses, not a right winger, like Pepe

    As well, we have in Auba laca and Pepe, 2 CFs and one winger. Each of them brings something quite different from one another. There’s no need to overthink it that two of them just relentlessly do the same thing over and over again

  15. Biggles

    @Valentin

    Auba is right footed. He scores 5-6x as many goals with his right foot as with his left. And he doesn’t do headers, pretty much ever.

    I think the best use of our three most expensive players is to do a 4-3-3 with Auba on the left, Laca in the middle, Pepe on the right. This allows Auba and Pepe to both cut in as inverted wingers and go on to their stronger foot. This is exactly what Mane and Salah do at Liverpool and they have a similar kind of game. It’s also what Real Madrid used to do with Ronaldo and Bale.

    Your point about Auba and Pepe having a similar style is true, but right to left runs only happen if you play Auba out on the right… which clearly we aren’t going to do.

  16. Un na naai

    Liverpool’s two wide palyers are similar in how they attack but one is more of a dribbler than the other

  17. China1

    As well, there is such a thing as instructions and tactics, whereby emery is actually allowed to tell Auba for example to either play from the left… or stay as a proper cf… or interchange with Pepe/laca because nobody made a law requiring a system to consist of just relentlessly repeating one tactical action every single time…

  18. Receding Hairline

    “Pepe is superior. Aubameyang offers very little on the ball and very little physically for a tall athletic man.”

    Exactly

    Aubameyang offers practically nothing apart from goals, he isn’t a good dribbler and sometimes misplaces simple passes, but he knows where to be to stroke the ball into the net

    I now understand where all this is coming from, the fact that once upon a time they were coached by the same man. It will be pretty sad if this man only has one training manual for forwards.

  19. Jamie

    I find it incredible that some supporters are finding fault in bringing in Pepe, irrespective of ‘the spaces he might occupy on the pitch’.

    He’ll improve our wing play, end of. We should be rejoicing. I am.

    Bin Mustafi, Bielik, Kos, and Mkhi, replace with a solid CB, and we’re cooking with gas.

    Onwards and upwards, gents.

  20. Marc

    Valentin

    A team should set up with slight variations depending on who they are playing and where.

    I’m not going to give 38 different versions of teams and set ups I’ve got better things to do.

    “Give the system and name the teams instead of throwing statements without any backing.
    Otherwise it is just “you’re wrong and I know better” style of trolling …”

    As for statements without any backing – you’ve dug yourself into a hole and you’re now bitching when you get called out on it. You’re contradicting yourself in the same comment.

    It will take time for Pepe to settle, it will also take time for the 3 players to click but you’ve tied yourself to a stupid statement and now won’t let go.

    Don’t blame me because you’ve tied yourself up in knots.

  21. Marc

    Jamie

    “Bin Mustafi, Bielik, Kos, and Mkhi, replace with a solid CB, and we’re cooking with gas.”

    We get that done and we’re full on induction mate!

  22. Ishola70

    Getting sidetracked really in this discussion about Auba and Pepe.

    These two are way down the list of problems for the team.

    Problem number one remains Xhaka sitting in front of the defence.

    Problem number two is Mustafi at CB.

    Problem three is at LB. This may be resolved this summer.

    Problem four is wishy washy offensive players like Ozil and Mhiki.

    Problem five is absence of Bellerin at RB but that is a current problem that can be rectified once he returns but even he will have to show more overall in the RB position.

  23. Un na naai

    I have to say Aubameyang looks far more dangerous from the right than any other position

    Valencia and Napoli prime example
    Bayern in pre season

  24. Valentin

    China1,

    In a few games, Emery stuck Aubameyang on the left side. Whenever he played there, he was poor. He had no influence on the games.

    Most players have a preferred side. Pires was a right footer midfielder who loved play on the left side. On the right he was poor. He gave interviews in which he explained that the reason he was poor when he played on the right, was that he could not mentally get a picture of what was going on. Technically he had no problem with making the pass, he just not could see it at the same speed than the other side.

    Same thing with Koscielny and John Terry, both right footer who prefer to play on the left side of the defense.

  25. Pierre

    The way I look at it .aubamayang and pepe will play wide with Lacazette through the middle so whether they have the same game or not is irrelevant..

  26. China1

    As well, even if you imagine the scenario that Pepe is stuck on the right and Auba constantly drifts into his space (I doubt it, but ok), our best ever attack involved Henry, a right footer who would drift wide left and cut in to shoot on his right and pires, a right footer on the left wing who would cut inside and shoot on his right, with Ashley cole also relentlessly pushing forward on the left

    It would hardly be the first time two players interchanged if we did setup that way. Imagine talking down the Henry pires setup because they both liked to cut in on their right lol

  27. Valentin

    Marc,

    I call you on your comment and now you can’t justify and you throw your toy out of the pram. The classic chestnut of “I have better things to do” when you know you just lost the argument.

  28. Marc

    Valentin

    I haven’t lost the argument – you’re trying to say we should have 3 – 4 plans for the new season. I’m saying it isn’t that simple. You’re getting crushed by several posters on here.

    What’s going to be really funny is once everyone’s settled and they’re playing well is you’ll have conveniently forgotten and will deny you ever said any of this.

  29. China1

    Pepe can also play as a CF anyway. If Auba drops into his space Pepe has the opportunity to move into the CF role – assuming Auba is even played at CF which he might not be

    In all likelihood all 3 of our strikers are going to be interchanging at various times. It’s not that hard to manage

  30. Valentin

    China1,

    Henry, Pires and Cole did not have the same starting position at all. They were able to interact because their starting position was different. Henry-Cole or Henry-Pires One could run from left to center while the other one from the center to left at speed and passing to each other creating confusion.
    The interaction between Cole-Pires was the usual interaction between Winger and Fullback with both the ability to overlap or drift inside. The difference was that Ashley Cole had no right shot.

  31. Globalgunner

    Un…you really do live in an alternative universe. Giroud that bloody lampost that couldnt get in ahead of another klutz striker Morata at Chelsea…until Higuain came to spare their blushes. That Giroud who spends most games with his tongue out after calamitous miss after calamitous miss. has anyone in world football made any enquiries this TW for him. Oh I forgot hes too valuable for Chelsea to sell.

  32. Marc

    Global

    I’m not going to pulled into whatever argument you’re having with Un but with Chelsea’s transfer ban and injuries they’d be suicidal to sell Giroud this summer.

  33. China1

    Lol your take on the Henry pires partnership is jokes mate sorry

    It was fluid and you could find hundreds upon hundreds of examples where they didn’t follow any particular pattern because they were quality players able to react and work with each other in real time rather than preprogrammed robots who only understand one move

    The underlying fact of the matter is that Henry spent an awful lot of his time miles out wide despite us having a very attacking left winger. Both of them had a preference for coming inside on their right and both of them played together extremely well because they accommodated one another

    How do you think pires got half of his goals? He had license to push up and more central a few times per game because he had both Henry dropping deep and wide to get involved and he had cole to play as defacto winger when he got forwards

    They are the ultimate example which undermines your point and they are an arsenal example to boot

  34. Ishola70

    If we want to see the best of Pepe then it is natural that for that to succeed you put him in the same environment and team set-up with which he has flourished at Lille.

    And that set-up is him operating with a lone striker. One upfront.

    Arsenal were criticised first season under Emery of lacking control offensively in comparison to Wenger’s better teams. Don’t expect that aspect to significantly improve with the Pepe signing. Of course though it makes the team doubly dangerous on the counter attack front now.

  35. Elmo

    “Aubameyang offers practically nothing apart from goals, he isn’t a good dribbler and sometimes misplaces simple passes, but he knows where to be to stroke the ball into the net”

    I’d like to see more of the Aubameyang that absolutely devastated Valencia on the counter at the Mestalla. Clearly he’s not going to get space like that every week, but that night he looked a far more complete player than we’ve otherwise seen.

  36. Marc

    China

    Valentin has put something forward to try and sound like he has some deep understanding of football. Now he’s getting shown up he’s resorting to accusations.

    If we get into October and Pepe and Auba are tripping over each other all the time the fans will be all over Emery’s back.

    We’ll see – or definitely not!

  37. Valentin

    Marc,

    Yesterday, I accuse of never having any point to make except snarky remark and insults that you are trying to pass as banter. And that When you are call on that you then resort to ask people to dig yourself out of the hole.

    Guess what this exactly what you are doing now. Asking China1 to help you out.

  38. Ishola70

    lol if the players make the same runs offensively with Auba playing as a lone striker and Pepe RW there is something seriously wrong.

    They will both have ample space to work in with one upfront and not get crowded.

  39. Pierre

    Imagine the damage an offensive 4 of Pepe. Aubamayang. Lacazette and Ozil would do if Emery could just manage to set the team up better defensively….

  40. Marc

    Valentin

    Don’t think so. We’re taking the piss out of you – because you’re stupid.

    Don’t worry we’ll continue the Pepe / Auba conversation once the seasons underway when there’s actual performances to comment on, not your constantly negative take on anything the new regime do.

    Honestly I’ve never met a fan of another club who would be so negative about a new record signing especially when they’re such an exciting prospect.

  41. China1

    Man I just destroyed a fabulous pizza

    Faaaabulous

    I’m not a ham pizza kinda guy but this one was bangin. An easy 9/10

  42. Valentin

    Ishola70,

    If we want to see the best of Pepe then it is natural that for that to succeed you put him in the same environment and team set-up with which he has flourished at Lille. And that set-up is him operating with a lone striker. One upfront.

    That is exactly the point I made yesterday. I then added that the lone striker has to be able to retrieve the ball deep and pass it to the onrushing right winger. Or to act as a shield in a 1-2 situation to let the winger pass him while blocking the defense. That’s not Aubameyang’s game, that’s Lacazette.

    At Lille , a lot of Pepe goals were tap-in from cut backs, low crosses from the left winger Jonathan Bamba. If we want the same return, we need to have a similar threat on the left. We therefore need an upgrade on Iwobi/Kolasinac. If Nelson can do the job, good. If he can’t, it then make sense to sell Aubameyang (who is redundant in that system) to fund buying Zaha.

  43. Marc

    Pierre

    That’s a pretty offensive line up – might work against lower teams at home but I don’t think we have the players to give it balance in tougher matches.

  44. Valentin

    Marc,

    Again you are lying.
    I am not negative on the signing of Pepe. I said that he was an upgrade on what we have on the right.

    I just said that now that we have bought him, we need to put a place a system to maximise his performance. You seem to think that adding another player without changing system will fix every problem. You also seem to think that adding more strikers always results in more goals.

  45. Valentin

    Marc,

    Again you can’t help yourself. Where did I mention ManUtd in my comment? You are the one who seems to have an hang-up on ManUtd. They are getting Dybala, I doubt that they would buy Aubameyang.

    I said that if we get a good offer for Aubameyang that allow us to improve the team overall we should take it.

  46. Sussexgooner

    Valentin zzzzzzzz give it a rest will you jeez you come across as condescending and arrogant and bit of a know it all quite frankly . 😴😴😴😴😴😴

  47. Ishola70

    Valentin

    Lacazette may bring out the best in Pepe offensively rather than Auba.

    He certainly would offer more in relation to linking with Pepe and bringing him more into play.

    Problem is though you lose that overall physical edge having Laca upfront rather than Auba.

    But differing styles offensively may be better for the team rather than styles that are seen as similar.

    Conundrum.

  48. Ishola70

    This is the conondrum.

    You bring in another offensive player with an impressive goal scoring record added to an already existing CF EPL golden boot winner and the question is what player is the team tailored to.

    Probably the answer is Auba.

    But that may mean that Pepe has his feathers clipped.

  49. Marc

    Valentin

    If you call what you are saying as being positive about Pepe I’d hate to see you be negative about something.

    As for Auba – Who are you going to sell him to then? How much will you demand?

  50. Valentin

    Ishola,

    I think that Pepe is more physical than Aubameyang. Pepe is more likely to make shoulder charge than Aubameyang. Auba like Henry tend to avoid physical confrontation.
    Lacazette may be smaller, but he put himself more than Aubameyang.
    Hopefully Pepe can add that instinctiveness in the penalty box to his game.

  51. Cesc Appeal

    Some talk now that Arsenal have reached an agreement for Tierney. It looks as if either our sales or confidence over a loan move for Rugani with a minimal payment this summer means we’ve met Celtic’s demands which are £25 Million guaranteed and £20 Million this summer.

    It could also be getting Pepe instead of Zaha with Lille happy to accept £20 Million this summer whereas Palace wanted more up front.

    It means that Pepe and Tierney will take up £40 Million of the budget leaving a little more money for a CB along with any potential sales.

  52. Nelson

    Valentin

    I also prefer to have a formation playing one striker at a time. Injury can happen during a long season. We also need rotation to keep players fresh. Instead of selling Auba, we should pressure Raul to sell our deadwoods and come up with another payment scheme to get us more good players.

  53. Valentin

    Marc,

    Learn to read.
    Where did I made a negative comment on Pepe?

    I hate when people just jump on Pepe bandwagon without having seen play a full game never mind seen him live.
    I have. I know what he brings, but I also know how the team must be setup to get the best of him.

  54. Ishola70

    This Rugani will have to convince me in his performances in an Arsenal shirt.

    Certainly not convinced about him defensively prior to signing.

  55. T

    Dont know about systems and stuff.. the club will do stuff and so does emery… But the signings and expected moves tell about 1 thing specificly.

    Raul has been biting his cigar during spring time and told the employees afterwards that

    1) he is not Happy about what the football looks like

    2) we are gonna sign some heavy ordinance during summer and carpetbomb the shit out of anyone and everyone next season

    I doubt anyone can disagree on that 😂😂

    Can hardly wait now for the season to begin!

  56. Valentin

    Nelson,

    I understand the need to have a second striker.

    However if the budget is tight I would rather have a better CB (no more Mustafi/Chambers with Sokratis), CM (no more Xhaka) and left winger (Iwobi/Kolasinac) than an expensive second striker on the bench in the last two years of his contract.
    If we were able to sell Aubameyang for 90 millions to China for example, that would help improve our team overall.

  57. Champagne charlie

    “Aubameyang. Auba like Henry tend to avoid physical confrontation.“

    Henry avoided it, per se, but could absolutely give it, he was a unit. Auba is just a fanny. Not quite like for like for me.

    But I do accept what you’re saying about the side having to play a certain way to suit Pepe. That wouldn’t be unusual so I don’t understand the pushback you’re getting – except I do when I see it’s the same names.

  58. Marc

    Cesc

    Yeah it’s beginning to look like they’ve been balancing the budget as transfer evolve.

    If we get Tierney done now that’ll leave a week or so to get a CB done. It took them a while to get going but so far it’s looking really good.

    Does anyone see Kolas being moved on if we bring in a LB?

  59. Valentin

    CC,

    I agree. Henry did not like confrontation, but when push come to shoves he was ready to give back. A little bit like Bergkamp, who was far from an angel if you pushed him.

    Maybe it is a different era, and no more hard men. But Aubameyang just seems to hide from confrontation.

  60. Marc

    Cc

    Maybe we’re just looking at Arsenal making a great signing and assuming that the manager will set up to get the best possible performance out of the players both collectively and individually.

    Maybe we’re enjoying a bit of feel good factor that we’ve got at the moment.

    Maybe we’re pissed off with people looking for negatives in every ray of sunshine.

  61. Cesc Appeal

    ‘Maybe we’re pissed off with people looking for negatives in every ray of sunshine.’

    But we’re not surprised when we see the names.

  62. Receding Hairline

    We don’t sell 22 premier league goals to anyone simply because we brought in a winger in my opinion. Lacazette’s league goals return has been poor and hoping he somehow builds a relationship with Pepe that will make up for the loss of last seasons golden boot winner is risky.

    Unai Emery asked for a winger and got Pepe, he in turn ruled out the need to sell any of Lacazette or Aubameyang. It’s down to him to find a system that works

  63. Champagne charlie

    Valentin

    Auba is a first rate pussy in that regard, no question about it. Same cloth as Ozil, they can trip and nibble, but usually it’s verbal disgust because both are powder puff. Henry would say countless things in anger, but he could also shove a guy into row K double quick, or stand firm and watch a player bounce off him.

    I’ve said it since day one, Lacazette is miles better as a CF in everything cohesive. Auba is a better scorer, but that too is also because Laca is a damn good footballer and understands he’s capable of dropping and assisting, so he does that. But when he had that for him, he was lethal for Lyon.

  64. Cesc Appeal

    Marc

    I think so.

    I would imagine the difference between what Lille wanted this summer and what Palace wanted this summer was large and would have impacted on the rest of our business.

    Being able to pay £20 Million this summer for Pepe means we can comfortbaly pay what Celtic want for Tierney. As he’s Emery’s top LB target it’s good to see Arsenal backing him. Makes sense as well, young player, plenty of room to develop and become a very smart investment.

    I’m really interested to see what Arsenal do with regards to a CB. There are strong links to Rugani which would be a bit of a gamble in terms of how well he plays as a CB in the EPL, but it could be that is just one option.

    Interesting 8 days ahead.

  65. Leftsidesanch

    ‘But we’re not surprised when we see the names.’

    Not at all, imagine being as negative as some of this lot. Must get tiring.

  66. Receding Hairline

    “But we’re not surprised when we see the names.”

    Bulls eye from Cesc

    If he can ditch out talk of “names” he should be able to take it too.

    He accuses others of dividing posters into groups yet that is his stock in trade

  67. Champagne charlie

    Marc

    There’s no negatives being stated, you’re not reading very well if that’s your hot take.

    He said Pépé is X type of player and we need to play X type of way to maximise it. Contentious nowhere outside of Le Grove where his every post warrants the same voices picking at it for holes.

    Go ahead and ask him if he’s happy Pépé joined. If he is then you can apologise for getting your above view wrong, yes?

  68. TR7

    Pepe signing means Auba will either have to play as a lone striker or as a left winger, a position he is not quite good at. Auba playing as a lone striker means no place in starting 11 for Laca. Now, Laca is a must in our starting line up for his ability to link up play. So, yes we will have to work on our formation to try to get the best out of our 3 forward players. This is what Valentin is arguing about, fair point in my opinion. With Zaha, everyone would have slotted nicely in their favored position – Zaha (left), Laca (striker) and PEA (right).

  69. Marc

    Leftside

    One of my favourite lines from Layercake “You’d give a fucking Aspirin a headache”

    He’d never seen some on here!

  70. Valentin

    Receding,

    Actually if you compare Lacazette and Aubameyang return on goals plus assists without the penalty, then Lacazette has a higher return than Aubameyang per 90 minutes played.
    Aubameyang scored more but has a lot less assist and provoked less penalty as well.

    But again why let the fact get in the way of your narrative.

  71. Receding Hairline

    Valentin Aubameyang is a better goal scorer than Lacazette, that is one fact you have decided to ignore to push your sell Aubameyang narrative

    If i was selling anyone at Arsenal it would be Lacazette not Aubameyang

  72. Marc

    Cc

    Valentin has been negative for a few days now and is getting more and more wound up that not everyone will agree with him.

    He first said we should just let Kos go without a fee. He was then talking about selling Auba to ManU and then got into Auba and Pepe making the same runs.

    Why not enjoy Arsenal making the best moves of a transfer window? Not often we’ve been able to say that.

    Of course it’ll take players time to settle / get used to playing with each other but that’s not a reason to whine, bitch and moan.

  73. Cesc Appeal

    Marc

    You do you, I think you’ve embarrassed them on a number of occasions.

    Ultimately it’s fruitless though. They are the remnants of the pro-Wenger rabble and they will always be sour, bitter and resentful and there’s no real debate to be had with them because their agenda pervades everything they say and they are barefaced liars.

    Just think, what’s the point in that case?

  74. Receding Hairline

    Also the Chinese transfer window closes today (or has closed if i am not mistaken) so unless you are unaware of that our only option for an Aubameyang sale is Man United ( because no other top club in Europe would pay top dollar for him).

    Selling him to United is a NO NO no matter how you spin it

  75. Receding Hairline

    “With Zaha, everyone would have slotted nicely in their favored position – Zaha (left), Laca (striker) and PEA (right).”

    except wide right is not Aubameyang’s preferred or favored position

  76. Valentin

    Marc,

    Again lying.

    I said that it make no sense of not negotiating with clubs to get a small fee for Koscielny now rather than keep him paying his wage and gets a lower fee in the winter TW.

    Guess what this is exactly what Edu is currently doing. Negotiation with Rennes and Bordeaux for a fee around 3~4 millions. A 10 millions fee was never going to happen.

    You were the one who wanted to keep in the reserve to teach him a lesson. My view is that that a waste of resources and energy for no tangible benefit for the club.

  77. Receding Hairline

    “I prefer to play as a striker, in the middle, of course,” Aubameyang told Sky Sports.

    “But I’m a guy who works for the team as well. And if they need me on the wing, I’ll play on the wing, of course. But I prefer to play striker.”

  78. Freddie Ljungberg

    We needed a right winger more than a left winger in my opinion, on the right last year we had Mikhi who is useless and Welbeck who is gone.
    Say what you will about Iwobi and I really don’t want to see him be a starter going forward but he was probably our best offensive player outside Auba and Laca seen over the whole season last year.

    We also have Nelson and Saka coming up that can lay there, my hope is that one of them makes that position their own.

    Also don’t want to see us play both Laca and Auba in too many games from the start, better to rotate and keep them fresh, I doubt we’re going to get as lucky as last season with injuries if we keep beasting them.

    Regarding setting us to be more solid in midfield it’s a great sentiment but with the players we have it doesn’t really matter what formation you play or instructions you give, with Xhaka in there it will still be wobble wobbe time.
    Our only hope is that Guen and Willock steps it up big time early in the season.

    Still a lot of Wengers players holding us back but it’s good to see them phased out even if it’s too slow for my liking.

  79. Receding Hairline

    “I said that it make no sense of not negotiating with clubs to get a small fee for Koscielny now rather than keep him paying his wage and gets a lower fee in the winter TW.”

    This was always the right course of action. No one believes Kos is worth 10m. However he wanted to be allowed to leave on a free hence the comments on him getting banished to the reserves

  80. Marc

    Valentin

    In the PL Auba got 5 assists Laca got 8. Scored 22 against 13, which is a goal every 124 minutes against every 193. Auba scored 5 pens against Laca’s 2.

    Those are the facts.

  81. Champagne charlie

    Marc

    I don’t think he wanted Kos out for free, pretty sure he said the player wants out and whether it’s now, or end of the window, or Jan we don’t stand to gain. But I could be wrong.

    You seem to have a bee in your bonnet with a choice few, maybe they ought to just join the season ticket club and earn your approval.

    Now we’re being treated to Cesc Appeals rendition of ‘pro-Wenger’ lot. Pretty much the only way that lad ever digests things on here.

  82. Receding Hairline

    “Clearly TR7 means PEPE.
    Zaha (left), Lacazette (CF), Pepe (right)”

    Valentine how can he clearly mean that when he wrote the below please

    “With Zaha, everyone would have slotted nicely in their favored position – Zaha (left), Laca (striker) and PEA (right).”

    Do you read minds now?? This is the type of attitude some find annoying

  83. Valentin

    Freddie,

    We could have phased Xhaka and Elneny last summer. Arsenal gave them both a new contract and a pay rise.
    It does not look like we are actively trying to replace/sell them.

  84. Marc

    Receding

    It’s funny how we were saying get a fee in the region of £3 million rather than surrender and let him go on a free and yet that is now what he was saying and we were demanding £10 million or let him rot forever.

  85. fsaf

    Valentin,

    Clearly he’s talking about Pepe making it harder since Pepe is a right winger and Zaha is a left winger so if we had gotten Zaha it would have made more sense because PEA would play on the right, which tbh I haven’t seen him do many times compared to playing on the left where he’s played quite a few times even for us.

    His preferred position is NOT a right winger though that’s for sure.

  86. Marc

    Cc

    Valentin was talking about bending over and giving into player power. This is what started the on going argument. The guy’s called me a racist, a liar and a troll but throws a tantrum when anyone else dares to disagree with him.

    As I said earlier we’ll judge how well they play together when they’ve had a few games of course by then he’ll be rewriting history again.

  87. Freddie Ljungberg

    Val

    I don’t approve of that one bit, and I can’t believe we’re going into another season with Xhaka in the team, maybe even as captain.

    The only explanation I can come up with is that we’re focusing on defense and attack this window and are waiting to fix midfield next summer to not introduce too many changes at the same time, and it would probably not have worked inside the budget if we didn’t get good money for Xhaka. Not the approach I would have taken but hey ho.

    I think once we get rid of Ozil, hopefully next summer with just one year left we’ll see significant upgrades in midfield.

    Pretty sure we’re actively trying to shift Elneny though, Raul didn’t source that body and dump it at his house just for shits and giggles.

  88. fsaf

    I’ve been thinking for couple of days about the good ol’ 4-4-2.

    Do we not have the personnel for it?

    Bellerin Sok Holding Tierney

    Pepe Torreira Ceballos Mikki/Iwobi

    Lacazette
    Auba

  89. Receding Hairline

    Marc the only one who mentioned a 10m transfer fee for Kosiclny was Valentin himself. No one else.

    The general feeling here among many posters was that we were not in a position to let players under contract walk away for free because they got a better offer elsewhere.

    Someone was reporting the hold up in the Tierney deal was over 2m pounds they want us to pay now rather than later, if we are letting people walk how can we rebuild .

  90. Dream10

    Saw a tweet that Tierney deal is 25m with 20m up front, 5m in guaranteed installments, 1m for qualifying for the CL in the next five years along with a 15% sell on clause.

  91. Valentin

    Marc,

    Again lying.
    You were the one who wanted to let Koscielny rot in the reserve the entire season to show that Arsenal was not going to be a soft touch anymore.

    When I made the point that Arsenal would still be paying his salary for a year but lose him for nothing next summer, you changed your tune to. We should let him in the reserve and negotiate at the last moment to scare him off.

    To which I said what do you do if by the end of the France TW, you have no buyer because all interested parties thought that Arsenal was serious in refusing to negotiate and had already bought a player.

    You then resorted to xenophobic insults. And accusing me of surrendering. You then came back with we should negotiate for 4 millions after I mentioned that Bordeaux and Lyon had mentioned that they were interested at that price but not at 10 millions.

  92. Receding Hairline

    Freddie i think we all have to admit that for some reason Unai Emery rates Granit Xhaka. All evidence points to this.

    He has even played him in defense and left back, you do not do that with players you have no confidence in.

    Is that confidence misplaced?? The answer is yes. But it’s his funeral

  93. Marc

    Freddie

    I’d put money on Elneny being gone this summer, Xhaka I’m afraid we’re stuck with for another season – for some unknown reason Emery seems to rate him.

    The one positive is with Mustafi being shunted towards the exit door and Ozil playing less Xhaka’s mistakes will be under even more scrutiny. If Willock or Guendozi continue to improve we might just see Xhaka benched.

    We can live in hope.

  94. Cesc Appeal

    Dream10

    Celtic have been quite greedy with this transfer, he will become a record buy from the SPL and they want £20 Million of the fee now and they want a sell on clause.

    It’s still not a bad deal and what I like is that Tierney was Emery’s top LB target and the club have backed him. It’s give and take, what Mislintat seemingly can’t understand, as Emery wanted Zaha but the club decided it was just too much but on Tierney he got what he wanted.

  95. Freddie Ljungberg

    More talk in the media about us still being in for Zaha after getting Pepe.

    Hope that is not true, we can use that money much better, our attack is fine now, so much better than any other part it’s ridiculous, we don’t need more players there atm.

    If we have that much money left get a Xhaka replacement and a starting CB, could probably get Upemecano and Sangare for those 60m, would improve our team 10 times more than getting Zaha in at this point.

    Almost certainly 100% bullshit though.

  96. Marc

    Cesc

    What’s the legal position on sell on clauses and contract extensions? I mean if you sign a player at 20 with a sell on clause does that still apply when he’s 28 and signed 2 or 3 extensions?

  97. Cesc Appeal

    FL

    I doubt it very much.

    Maybe it is Palace realizing they are now running out of time to cash in on what will be a pissed off player and are trying to get Everton to make another offer by ‘suggesting’ things to the media.

    Everything seems to point to Arsenal going after Tierney and a CB.

  98. Receding Hairline

    “It’s still not a bad deal and what I like is that Tierney was Emery’s top LB target and the club have backed him. It’s give and take, what Mislintat seemingly can’t understand”

    Funny how some fans have come to worship Mislintat, i guess it’s just the Emery and Raul agenda benefiting him

  99. Freddie Ljungberg

    RH

    “He has even played him in defense and left back, you do not do that with players you have no confidence in.”

    I’m not sure this is a sign that he trusts Xhaka, I see that more of who can we remove from the most important part of the team, shunt into another position and still be ok in an emergency.

    Still wrong because Xhaka is doubly useless the more defensive responsibility he gets, but I don’t think he rates him that highly, probably a lot higher than most on here do though, which honestly doesn’t mean much.

  100. Cesc Appeal

    Marc

    Let me caveat this by saying contract law is not my thing. Last time I did it was the first year of my degree way back.

    But the agreement is between Arsenal and Celtic not Tierney, so any extensions won’t affect that overall agreement between the two clubs which will run and run subject to the specifics of the term etc.

    You have two contracts in that scenario. The transfer agreement between Arsenal and Celtic and then the employment contract between Arsenal and Tierney.

    Zaha signed a new deal with Palace but United’s sell on clause is still very much there.

  101. Receding Hairline

    You really need to get a hold of yourself Valentin

    You are coming off as arrogant

    Not everything you say is gospel, if you are going to be on a public forum you should expect your views to be questioned

    Calling posters liars and xenophobic is teenage behavior and you are no teenager

  102. Dream10

    Cesc

    Don’t how good he is as I haven’t watched Celtic in years. I’m worried that he could break down with his recent injury despite playing 40 matches. Let’s see.

  103. fsaf

    Fuck Mislintat’s hunger for power.

    It’s what fueled this whole revolution that Arsenal FC has went through in the last 2 years. To restrict the power being in one person’s hands. But shared power where every voice among the ruling people is heard and taken in account. Then all of them would sit on the table and present their arguments followed by making a shared decision after all the info was presented to them. It’s a dream come true the way it sounds. And from where this Summer is heading, it sounds like it’s working quite well.

  104. Valentin

    Marc,

    Oh so you don’t like being call xenophobic troll.
    It’s just banter.
    You don’t get my wicked sense of humour.

    Funny when the shoes is on the other foot…

  105. Marc

    fsaf

    I think the Sven interview a little while ago was quote telling. Everything he accused the club of moving towards was the exact opposite of what we’ve seen this summer and a reflection on many of the signings we made whilst he was with us.

    Struck me as someone bitter he didn’t get it all his own way.

  106. Valentin

    Receding,

    Only yesterday you started by accusing me of stating that Spurs was going to win the league when I started my comment with ManCity will win the league.

    Have you thought how you are coming across, when you start arguments and make false statements without even reading comments.

    Make you look like a bully who can’t read but is looking for an argument.

  107. fsaf

    I’m getting the vibe that the club is trying to sell Koscienly, Mustafi, Jenkinson and Elneny. If we do that we’d have ~£40-50m which is quite a lot of money. Then there’s Bielik and maybe 1 or 2 more. There are ways that we can bring some money back and I hope the club is as efficient in the OUTs as it’s been in the INs.

  108. Marc

    Valentin

    You said you feared it could be the Spud’s year in a way that was open to interpretation.

    Instead of saying “sorry you misunderstood me what I meant was” you start accusing people of being liars.

  109. Marc

    fsaf

    I think we’d be happy to move Jenkinson on but I’m not sure it’ll be that easy. He’s on £45k a week with a year left on his contract. What’s he going to be offered elsewhere? £25k a week chances are that deal would still be available next summer so why move and lose a million quid.

  110. Valentin

    Marc,

    In that comment, I said
    ManCity is going to win the League.
    Liverpool is not going to reach the same height. (both Salah and Mane went far in the AfCON, so their preparation will be truncated).
    With the addition of NDombele Spurs could go further in Cup competitions.

    How can you misinterpret that as Spurs will win the league?
    Also when I confronted Receding about that ‘misinterpretation”, he doubled down on that.

    It was not misinterpretation, it was classic Receding, trying to score points by throwing mud and see what stick.

  111. Receding Hairline

    “Make you look like a bully who can’t read but is looking for an argument.”

    Valentine again you said Man city will win the league but you fear this could be Spurs year …..

    I mean how does anyone not interpret that as Spurs having a chance to win the league??? If you make ambiguous statements don’t be surprised if they are misunderstood, maybe you should work on your writing, my reading and comprehension is fine thank you.

    Again it’s the arrogance, how dare he contradict me, then you cry Liar. As for bullying , abeg shift.

  112. Pierre

    Valentin
    Don’t waste your time arguing with the know nothing’s like Marc.RH etc

    Just humour them.. You are way more knowledgeable about the game than they will ever be.. That’s why they are ganging up on u.

    I respect your knowledge of the game where as they are threatened by it.

  113. Receding Hairline

    “With the addition of NDombele Spurs could go further in Cup competitions.”

    And you call others liars….the lack of self awareness is staggering.

    “Man City will win the league but i fear this might be spurs year to win a cup with the addition of Ndombele”…How hard is that for effective communication??

  114. Marc

    Valentin

    That is not what you said – does that make you the liar?

    Even when someone offers you an olive branch you throw it back at them.

  115. Dream10

    CC, Valentin

    Don’t think we can afford having only one high volume shot player on the pitch. Lacazette for all his quality, he is more of a low shot, high accuracy type of player. Of the players in our squad Aubameyang, Pépé, Nelson and Nketiah are the only ones who could get at least three shots every 90 minutes on a consistent basis.

    Likely we concede over 40 goals in PL again. We need as much end product on the field to make up for goals allowed. Balance might have to be secondary.

  116. Cesc Appeal

    Dream10

    If he’s the one that Emery wants for LB then that’s the one we should go for unless there were any serious objections or alternatives.

    Marc

    Subject to certain rules there’s no knowing what Arsenal and Celtic have agreed to with regards to that clause, if there’s even a clause at all, all rumour at this point.

  117. Receding Hairline

    “I respect your knowledge of the game where as they are threatened by it.”

    Is this a paid job?? Why on earth will anyone be threatened by the views of others?? Don’t project your feelings onto others Pierre.

    I am still waiting for Emery to demand the purchase of headless chickens who cannot pass a football to their team mates. Isn’t that one of the attributes you say Emery hates in a player?? The ability to find your team mate with a pass??

    I couldn’t care less about Valentin’s knowledge of the game or lack of it, i simply seek clarification when he makes unsupported claims. That he feels threatened by those questions says more about him than others

  118. fsaf

    There has been rumors of Crystal Palace wanting Carl J to fill the void left by Wan-Bissaka. I mean I wouldn’t have a problem with that. None at all. Just wonder how would you go from possibly the RB with highest ceiling, and I mean that because AWB is fantastic and Manure got a full back that could be the best in the EPL very, very soon, to someone like Carl J who’s never even had a high ceiling to begin with.

    I read that Hodgson is a fan of his. And CP still haven’t replaced Wan-Bissaka and it’s been a full month already. Hopefully we are in for a treat.

  119. Biggles

    @Thorough

    Celtic fans are ridiculously petty. There’s plenty of them that still refuse to use the word Ranges and prefer to call them Sevco, and also think they should be stripped of titles. They’re as rabid as Liverpool fans with the brains of a Spud.

  120. Marc

    Valentin

    This is your post copied and pasted including the date and time in case you want to accuse me of altering it.

    “Valentin July 29, 2019 10:46:49

    ManCity will win the league. However I am really worried that this year could be Spurs year. They narrowly miss the Champion’s league, but I can’t see Liverpool hitting the same height than last year.
    They have a great midfield and if NDombele if fit for the entire season, he could fire them to glory.
    Hopefully they miss their chance this season, with most of their better players leaving next season, the following one could be terrible for them.”

    Please explain how that is not open to interpretation or more likely actually reads as saying that you fear this could be the Spud’s year?

    You either can’t remember what you post or are a compulsive liar.

  121. Nelson

    “I’ve played with KT for Scotland and he’s played right back and centre back. I’ve watched him and he’s a very good footballer,” said Robertson.

    Sounds like Robertson plays left back and Tierney plays right back or centre back for Scotland. That means Tierney can play all positions across the back line. He is Emery’s player.

  122. Marc

    Thorough

    I misread your comment and thought you’d said pretty – really was thinking what’s this guy on about!

    Jocks carry a huge chip round on their shoulders.

  123. Batistuta

    You wouldn’t believe we just signed our most expensive player ever with all of the negative vibe on the blog today

  124. fsaf

    “I am really worried that this year could be Spurs year.”
    “if NDombele is fit for the entire season, he could fire them to glory.”

    What kind of glory other than EPL/UCL? Sounds like he thinks that spuds have a real shot and could possibly win the EPL/UCL.

  125. Batistuta

    I’d def have Umtiti over Rugani but we absolutely should and must get in a CB… Would be very Wenger like to not touch the defence. 8 days to go but I’m quietly optimistic

  126. Valentin

    Receding/Marc,

    “ManCity will win the league. However I am really worried that this year could be Spurs year. They narrowly miss the Champion’s league, but I can’t see Liverpool hitting the same height than last year.”

    Looks clear to me than I am talking about the Champion’s League.
    The rest is even more explicit.
    If you had bother reading the full comment instead of jumping on me first, you would know that.

    Like I said, bully who can’t read looking for an argument.

  127. Receding Hairline

    What Valnetin wrote

    “Valentin July 29, 2019 10:46:49 ManCity will win the league. However I am really worried that this year could be Spurs year. They narrowly miss the Champion’s league, but I can’t see Liverpool hitting the same height than last year.
    They have a great midfield and if NDombele if fit for the entire season, he could fire them to glory.
    Hopefully they miss their chance this season, with most of their better players leaving next season, the following one could be terrible for them.”

    What Valentin claims he said today

    “In that comment, I said
    ManCity is going to win the League.
    Liverpool is not going to reach the same height. (both Salah and Mane went far in the AfCON, so their preparation will be truncated).
    With the addition of NDombele Spurs could go further in Cup competitions.”

    Yet i am a liar and a bully who cannot read