Fans went into meltdown yesterday over a player they thought Arsenal were signing because he went to Aston Villa. The internet exploded. The club is apparently finished. Villa are now a bigger club than us… because fans take rumours as fact.
Quite the spectacle.
Buendia is no doubt a top talent. He’s powerful, mobile, and energetic. He’s also a chance creation machine. But that doesn’t mean we were in for him. If we were, we’d have landed him. No doubt. There is not a world where a player picks Villa over Arsenal unless there’s something wrong with them.
I suspect that the reason we’re not moving on him is Odegaard.
The rumour that really should have us worried is Reuben Neves replacing Granit Xhaka. That feels a lot more Arsenal if I’m honest. He’s with Jorge Mendes, he’s just had a very average season, and his signing probably doesn’t move us forward. He’s not really that mobile, he’s been outclassed this season by our current midfielders, and he’s quite one-paced. He’ll not be cheap.
It’s a peak-Edu move in my opinion. No imagination.
SPURS WERE BINNNED OFF BY CONTE. Amazing stuff. Daniel Levy tried to lure him to convince Harry Kane the project wasn’t dead… then he received the middle finger because Conte doesn’t think winning values align. Magic.
Right, short one today because I’m traveling. See you tomorrow!
Tom
No way is that a show of character. We have been after this player for almost 2 years now. It was for the taking. Fuck it…. 40M, there you go.
I do think that maybe the execs heard that he wanted Villa, for other reasons and likely pulled out then. However, we could have gone super hard for this player to make it really hard to say no. It seems he said no quite easily.
Well, if it was City, Liverpool or Chelsea matching the Villa offer, I don’t see Bunedia rejecting that. We are a mid table club, outside of European football and no Wenger pull. We have a manager who has brilliant relation with young players e.g. Guendouzi, Saliba, Martinelli; who don’t mind playing bums like Willian, Xhaka and Luiz instead of Martinell, Azeez, Mavro/Saliba. Last season was a nice thing to evaluate every player, but we stuck to old, uninterested ones and still can only finish 8th. I’m afraid we will be doing it this season with no big names coming in… Read more »
Frankly I don’t mind if Arteta believes he needs Ode instead. Or if he wants to play Willian. Or ostracize every youngsters.
But we finished 8th. Fuck the since Christmas table. #ArtetaOut
Villa were in the Championship some 2 years ago……..let that sink in for a minute. Arsenal wanted Buendia and it’s pitiful revisionism to suggest otherwise. They’ve been wanting to sign him for sometime now. At the end of this Arteta saga, we’ll be lucky to sign Buendia’s nephew. Odegaard……lol. Oh how the mighty have fallen
Mexico Mexico…vamos!
Seems like we, in fact, we’re after Buendia. But let’s assume we weren’t for a bit. Does that make it better in some way? We’re a team that sorely lacks creativity and chance creation. Buendia is one of the few available players in our price range that’s PL-ready and pretty much guarantees those things. Not being after him would possibly be an even bigger sign of incompetence than losing out to Villa.
sausage
I think Arteta wants Ode and will focus on getting him.
I hope not…tho
Aouar Im willing to take a chance on… similar to Buendia but more a light weight
Guns,
Yeah, it seems like that might be the case. I’ve said it before, I’d take Ode at the right price. But the right price is half of what RM want. He’s a neat player but for 50M you’d expect someone who can carry the team. And he showed no signs of being that player consistently.
I’ll admit I haven’t seen Aouar play. Looks good on YouTube but so do many others.
a loan again for Ode ok.. I can live with that
A loan for Coutinho ok…
Buy Aouar
Those three on the pitch together would be like Wenger days with three creators – making things happen would be interesting!
I see your point. But honestly I’m just really tired of all the talk about loans. We’ve been stuck as a club for a long time and we won’t get ourselves unstuck by loaning in players we can’t afford. I’d rather take a few chances on younger players that we can develop and that we know will be here for 4 years. I don’t see us developing an identity any other way.
Story out of OneFootball that Saliba may be offered on loan to Newcastle. This is like the Ringling Bros Circus.
The ringling bros circus turned a profit though…
Kroenkephobe/Almuniasaynomore Been keeping abreast of the LG comments and have been enjoying the comedy with your songs/lyrics. Thought Almunia was leading the way until the Dido effort yesterday by Kroenkephobe; that will take some topping guys. Bird & Fortune were excellent writers as well as more intellectual comedians than those around during their time on Bremner’s TV’s political satire shows. KP? Like Almunia I wondered about the bubble you spoke of yesterday and had to chuckle at the wealthy day trippers trying to blend in – probably a sit com in the making there somewhere.Read yesterday about a Welshman being… Read more »
Rich I’ve never heard of a village missing its idiot bad enough to send out a search party; they usually change the road signs within a 20 miles radius. However, in your case an exception should be made. “I got kicked out of school at 14, not being educated by the system, and not being well read, is one of my best qualities.” Janet & John books too much for you to take in? In fact what are your best best abilities? Would certainly make you boring to talk to as most of your non football posts attest. Did you… Read more »
@Tony Please stop the village idiot comparison, because I hurt so badly from laughing, Thank you for adding to making this Sunday a joyous one. Now back to football and Arsenal. Because Arsenal after 18 months interest in Buendia lose out to a team not yet fully reestablished back into the Premier League presents a serious problem. Any other CAM Arsenal is planning to buy is going to be overpriced because selling clubs know Arsenal’s top target is a CAM and they lost out on Buendia. Arsenal is between a rock and a hard place just wait until RM holds… Read more »
Brownie well we all know Arteta will find any excuse to throw even more money at CBs (kinda amusing since artetas supporters also trumpet how good our defense has been under him. Hard to have it both ways? Apparently not in the cult! The easiest way for Arteta to get an excuse to cunt off saliba and appease his CB fetish is to loan saliba out, hope he fails so he has an excuse to sell him, meanwhile he wastes money on another CB in the grand hope that he can be just good enough to keep Saliba out the… Read more »
MD
Buendia chose them over us. Plain and simple.
Not just that, he made up his mind pretty quickly. Interesting knowing that…
he knew we were chasing him for a while yet turned against signing for us.
Says it all.
And indeed Aulas, will be holding Aouar price the same as Buendia. Clearly the entire world knows now, we have the cash.
Fuck it, Just but Aouar for the asking price and get on with it. This nickle and diming and tire kicking is so boring and worthless.
Get in Aouar and Bissouma/Anguissa and most will forget the Buendia fiasco
Buy
There are players at Arsenal that are glad that they have their retirement checks coming in and they will not make a noise. But then there are players that are so pissed off at Arteta that if they are young may risk not signing a new contract and then force their way out on a free. Players will only move if they agree to the clubs proposals. Ozil did not agree and stayed until Arsenal decided the PR is so bad pay off his contract. If a 32 year old can do this how about someone that is more then… Read more »
Good Ebening, bed time here on EST.
Rich I’m not sure you know what you’re talking about with uni post grads ‘ “I find the better the school or university someone attended, the more stupid they are, unfortunately they can’t teach common sense, and they don’t teach anywhere near enough critical thinking” So you know loads of Oxbridge guys and most of them are dim, meanwhile most of us who went to less reputable institutions are smarter? Not sure there’s any evidence of truth in that and I say that as someone who The only major difference between Oxbridge and lesser university goers is that Oxbridge guys… Read more »
I say that as someone who benefits from your assumption*
The point @Rich is making is that British universities are about brainwashing the commons.(He needs to travel more)
Their goal is to create a labour surplus and drive wages down
RichJune 6, 2021 22:23:08 “I got kicked out of school at 14, not being educated by the system, and not being well read, is one of my best qualities” Explains a lot,not really surprised-duh!! We implore you to leave the socio/political-economic stuff out of your commentary.It’s painful reading and quite frankly embarrassing. —————- RichJune 6, 2021 22:23:08 I find the better the school or university someone attended, the more stupid they are, unfortunately they can’t teach common sense, and they don’t teach anywhere near enough critical thinking ———– Really now?You’ve really gone and dug yourself into a deep hole. I… Read more »
After digging a little bit into numbers, reading up fan sentiments and watching YT comps, these are some takeaways – – Neves has very good tracking, pressures and interception numbers. His pressure and tackling success rate is similar to Kante. In most of these categories Neves is like in top 80 percentile while Xhaka is in like 30-50 percentile. So Neves beats him out quite easily here. – In terms of Long passing and switches, Neves is one of the best in the league in this category. Xhaka lacks way behind. But Progressive passes is a whole different story. Xhaka… Read more »
Guys I’d humbly suggest you not to reply to Rich’s political statements. Idk why he tries to embarrass himself again and again
He’s got good takes when it comes to football, lets just debate on them.
Rich I pissed myself reading that. The big intellectual heavyweight finally admits he doesn’t read. And only someone as overtly ill educated as you would make so many false assumptions about someone else. Here’s some truth. I read avidly as a kid. I liked it and still do. It’s helped equip me for dealing with the kind of arseholes that you meet around every corner (or online in your case). I was brought up on a properly rough housing estate by my mum (no father – you obviously didn’t absorb that from an exchange between Tony and me when we… Read more »
“Yea, He’s just as slow as Xhaka, lacks Xhaka’s passing ability and can’t beat a press to save his life.”
The kinda trash this dissenter guy posts on here is sometimes worth asking if he ever thinks before posting.
First it was the afcon now it’s neves cannot beat a press. Have you watched him play at all? This guy has xhaka’s long pass and cannot be easily dispossessed like xhaka.
Fountain of wisdom you are. lol
Oh and Rich
You said ‘I got kicked out of school’. You make that sound as if it passively happened to you and you had no part in the decision to kick you out. Those nasty teachers making up charges against innocent kids eh?
What really happened because as it stands that comment makes you the worst kind of – ooh what’s that word people like you use – yeah got it, a snowflake. Put your big boy trousers on Rich – why were you expelled?
Judge for yourself… seems like a little upgrade on Xhaka. Clearly does not dribble much tho and hardly joins the attack… pings those long balls forward ala Xhaka. Seems more mobile and agile.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-wgmpnmYI
“””””””First it was the afcon now it’s neves cannot beat a press. Have you watched him play at all?”””””””
Lmfaoooooo!
Bissouma is we should have got instead of Partey, Neves is who should replace Xhakalson but with both scenarios,
we need still need a dynamic CM to control tempo/dictate play, neither Partey, Bissouma, Neves can do this to take us to the next level.
The less said about Xhakalson the better.
KroenkephobeJune 7, 2021 07:00:06 Put your big boy trousers on Rich – why were you expelled? ——- Rich/Kroenkephobe Maybe, because some left leaning socialist advocate-an ‘A’ grade type student destined for Oxbridge stole his girlfriend and Rich beat the living daylights out of him.The grudge against such types runs deep.. 🙂 PS Would be interesting to hear Rich’s thoughts on the socio-economic system employed by the nordic countries -Sweden as a notable example. Then again,I’d rather not. PPS Everybody whether educated or not makes a valuable contribution to society through sheer effort and endeavour.Just don’t understand the need to project… Read more »
Theres alot of hard work in universities the result of which is broken beds and stained bedsheets
“Judge for yourself… seems like a little upgrade on Xhaka. Clearly does not dribble much tho and hardly joins the attack… pings those long balls forward ala Xhaka. Seems more mobile and agile.”
The agility does it for me coupled with the fact he doesn’t make errors leading to goals frequently.
Imagine trying to downplay the signing of a player you personally had been hyping up for months 🤦🏾♂️ We didn’t put in an official bid because we were putting in enquiries and Arsenal don’t do quick transfers. We’d have dragged it on all window trying to get it cheaper. Norwich recognise that because it is fucking predictable so they were happy to offload quick to Villa. It absolutely is embarrassing. Villa is a lot more of an exciting prospect then Artetaball. Has one of the best keepers in the league and one of the best midfielders, if you can’t recognise… Read more »
Also the fact we are panic rushing to Neves out of nowhere is proof Buendia was a target.
China, you pose questions that have already been answered but one more time, here goes: We did not get ‘bested’ by AV. We chose not to offer as much money as they did for a player who they clearly valued more than we did. I know I’m making an assumption here but I believe it is a fairer one than assuming we offered Norwich the same amount as AV, similar terms and Buendía chose them over us. Again I would suggest you read Arseblog today who expresses my thoughts better than I can on the subject of ‘missed transfer targets’.… Read more »
Kaz ‘panic rushing’ – toys being thrown with that emotive assumption!
Captain Tierney Xhaka also has good long range shots and sometime scores from long range. however he hardly takes them as he is mostly playing in our half but I do remember him hitting a few long shots even if it wasn’t anything special. The main question is, swap these players and Is xhaka going to be as effective as neves at wolves? If no, then neves is an upgrade, if yes then xhaka is the better player and if it’s the same why bother going for someone who isn’t going to improve us. Whoever we get in, is going… Read more »
Bob that doesn’t add up Buendia himself had to agree to move to villa. The window is just barely opening, if he knew arsenal had bid and just a few million less, he could have VERY easily delayed making a decision to see if arsenal match/better villa or he could’ve made some noise and tried to get Norwich to accept the few mil less from arsenal. There was no delay, no hesitation, straight to villa. What does that tell you about what the player wanted? There isn’t one narrative on this that adds up favourablg for arsenal. We’ve been linked… Read more »
Punked*
We’ve been punked by villa and Buendia preferred them to us***
I have been a fan of Neves since his Porto days. And I wouldn’t mind if he came. But that would mean we use partey as the dribbler and progressive player. Neves is good at through balls and passing quickly. He is a bit like Busquets. But he has far better defensive numbers. I was all for signing him. And I would take him over Bissouma because we wouldn’t get much forward play from CM with Bissouma anyway. He is not comparable to xhaka at all though. He can beat a press by a body feint or a turn. And… Read more »
Arsenal aren’t going into a season albeit a season with a maximum of around 50 games with as a small squad as some are suggesting Looking at the past squad numbers around the various clubs I would be staggered if Arsenal don’t have at least 23 over 21 year olds and that will be supplemented by around 4-5 under 21 year olds from the list who are likely to be in or around the senior squad. I am still staggered with the suggestion from some as to the value that some of the potential departures firstly because they are considered… Read more »
China, Buendía may we’ll have felt that AV wanted him more ( offering Norwich a more attractive deal)and accepted that AV was a good move. That doesn’t mean that AV ‘bested’ us, simply that they were keener on him and therefore willing to make a better offer.
If you can’t see that this is the most likely scenario then your perspective on Arsenal is making you unreasonable.
Terraloon, I agree that there is likely to be a gap between our hoped for departures and the reality. However even with European football our squad needed thinning so Mr Garlick will be a very busy man!
In what world was Villa’s deal a matter of a ‘few million’ more than Arsenal’s which would apparently mean Buendia dig his heels in (where he has 0 leverage)? If you believe the journos we bid 30 mil, Villa have bid 33 rising to 40, with a 10% sell on. That’s 25% higher plus a sell-on clause down the line, Arsenal flat out refused to go further than 30. The point of contention here is that some valued Buendia higher than Arsenal and are out of joint over it, which is fair enough but please spare the stories of the… Read more »
Bob, What is your definition of bested? To me it is a club have to offered a better package to the player. Players don’t choose their next club only for financial reason. So the best package is not just financial. It is also best career prospect, best off the field relationship. IMHO China1 is right in stating that if Buendia had wanted to join us over Aston Villa, he could have forced the move. The fact that he did not, indicates that the proposal that Aston Villa made to him was more enticing than the one Arsenal offered. We just… Read more »
How could Buendia have forced a move?
He’s under contract until 2024, Norwich just got promoted, he just broke into the National side. Literally every incentive to comply with the club and respect their demands.
Not to mention there was a bidding side who had delivered acceptable terms to Norwich, so it wasn’t like they were prohibiting ANY move. Arsenal didn’t want to go near the agreeable terms, so there’s no choice in the matter. It was Norwich for another year or Villa. The agenda is ridiculous.
What’s hard to understand here.
If Buendia wanted Arsenal he simply refuses the Aston Villa offer. It doesn’t matter if Aston Villa offered 3 million more if the players says no to the deal.
Since when have transfers been just about the selling club and not the player sold.
Gons All of Xhaka’s goals for us have been absolutely worldlies. But he requires a lot of time and space on the ball before he can even unleash one on target Even if one minuscule of the plenty of variables is not right, his shot ends up in the stands. Neves on the other hand, has the ability to create 1 yard of space on the edge of the box and his shots have much higher percentage of hitting the target ( this is just my eye test). The one reason why the majority of Arsenal fans dont seem to… Read more »
Charlie Forget about that for a minute though. I think we have to accept that none of us know the truth about Arsenal’s intentions with regard to Buendia or how they handled the potential transfer. Both sides can(and are) using the story to attack/ defend Arteta. You (and I agree) have pointed out the need for an attacking/creative/technician ( or two). Losing Buendia means we’re down to Ode,Auour, Pereira, or Coutinho. RM will screw us for Ode, Auour is a serious risk,Pereira unproven, Coutinho prob expensive loan (which we’re all sick of). I’m sure there are others that can be… Read more »
There is a lot of negative noise about Arsenal’s finances, although I suspect that they are not as bad as some imagine and perhaps more importantly there appears to be a commitment from the Kroenke family that the club will provide the management with a decent transfer budget this summer. Personally I believe that Arsenal’s priority when the transfer window opens this week was to find a replacement for Xhaka who is leaving the club this summer. Finding the right partner for Partey in central midfield is an absolute must. Clearly Arsenal will finalise at the same time the sale… Read more »
correction “not playing in Europe”.
Where do most of Xhaka’s “progressive” passes take place?
In his own half.
The whole point about Neves is that he can get the ball moving quicker from deeper areas.up the pitch.
He has the same range of passing as Xhaka.
And he can actually win out in midfield duels in the middle of the pitch which you don’t see too much from Xhaka because he sits deep most of the time away from the traffic.
He is a clear upgrade on Xhaka
Ridiculous really hearing he is another Xhaka or even some have said worse than Xhaka.
ES
“Clearly Arsenal will finalise at the same time the sale of Xhaka who is clearly in demand both in Rome and elsewhere in Europe.”
lol where else in Europe?
Have Hertha Berlin put in another bid for him along with Roma?
That will put a couple more pounds on his transfer fee.
Two clubs battling it out for Xhaka.
https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/transfer-news/arsenal-emi-buendia-interest-truth-20752691 This site has got it right more often than not so I’m willing to trust it. Did Arsenal really want him? Sources involved in the deal have told football.london that Arsenal were ‘seriously’ interested in Buendia and launched a bid for him on Wednesday. It’s unclear whether the Gunners launched a second bid, but what is certain is that Aston Villa produced a better offer to the Buendia camp which showed the Argentine a clear pathway on how he will be utilised at Villa Park next season. However, Martin Odegaard remains the main target this summer and technical director… Read more »
Neves is not the most stylish player is he.
That’s why some may be down on him.
But if he is effective for the side aesthetics should not matter.
There is only one aspect where Xhaka beats Neves.
Xhaka has a bit more style on the ball than Neves.
That is not even noteworthy in regards a player being truly effective for the side.
Almunia No, honestly can’t say it did. Arsenal were sniffing around him last year and did nothing, so a tepid effort this time out tells me we liked him but not nearly enough. I’m not so undone by matters throughout the window, I’ve always shrugged my shoulders until the final days when the context is delivered on matters that preceded. If we end the window without a creative talent added it will change my view of our efforts with Buendia, but I’m not going to sit and use it to slander all involved which is so readily the response these… Read more »
Arsenal may have bid just 30m thinking that Buendia would reject any Aston Villa offer.
Didn’t happen.
Ishola
Yea, I’m sure Buendia saying he wanted Arsenal would’ve made Norwich accept 10 million less plus no sell-on clause. That’s how transfers work.
It’s how they can work out Charlie if a player clearly wants to move to one club over another.
Are you telling us now you have never heard or come across player power in regards transfers?
What this tells us is that Arsenal did make a half-hearted approach but never really made Buendia feel like he’s 100% wanted because indeed Arsenal didn’t want him so badly. But Buendia was one of the main targets, not #1 – Odegaard, but a main target as Arsenal did make a bid for Buendia. The conclusion is that we’ve missed a main target to chase a player who might not even be available at all. And who in my opinion is not better to begin with. That’s me of course but the idea that you miss on your 2nd choice… Read more »
Charlie.
The Arseblog article yesterday hit the nail on the head for me. The reactions of some is quite extraordinary.
It can be difficult, but it’s best to chill as much as possible during the summer and reserve judgement when the work has been completed.
Spent time watching severka YT clips of Neves to be sure. Well, he looks a younger, fancier version of Xhaka. What’s missing in our MF that we need to return to top 4 ? Players who could score goals, create chances, provide assists, carry the ball forward in the final third and, importantly, win some headers middle of the park If people thought (now that we lost the bid) Buendia is priced OTT at £33m , why the heck would we appear to want Neves at 35m+, as reported?? Which of our dire MF needs is Neves supposed to address?… Read more »
Charlie I understand. But that’s the world we live in now and I’m as guilty of it as the next man. It’s rare to find patience nowadays but I think that goes for fans of all clubs. I think Arsenal fans have an unfair reputation when in actual fact most clubs are as bad if not worse. Can you imagine utd fans if they finished 8th 2yrs in a row. We’ve just suffered a decline for so long many are reaching breaking point very easily. A bit like a parent with a child, your patience by bedtime is not what… Read more »
Ishola
In very exact circumstances the player can influence matters, but not in Buendia’s case at all.
If player power were so prevalent then Zaha wouldn’t be tied to Palace the past 2 years despite the numerous transfer requests and tantrums he’s pulled. Mahrez would’ve been an Arsenal player some 4 years ago, Suarez would’ve pushed through the deal to us way back too.
Useroz
“Which of our dire MF needs is Neves supposed to address?”
How about being able to compete in the middle of the pitch.
I don’t know if you have noticed but Arsenal’s midfield has had a player in it that doesn’t like competing in central midfield in traffic among opposing players because it highlights weaknesses in him.
Anybody who think that a player cannot force a move is either naive or agenda driven. Arsenal got players who forced a move to join us: Wiltord went on strike and was forced to train with the Bordeaux U21 prior to joining us. Aubameyang behaviour during his final days at Dortmund have been widely reported. On the other hand, Arsenal also lost due to players wanting out. Nasri forced a move to ManCity. Koscielny just flatly refused to stay and Arsenal were forced to accept Bordeaux offer. RvP went for ManUtd despite Juventus making a bigger bid. The Ox went… Read more »
You know there’s a lot of twisting and turning and people trying to tie themselves in knots over the Buendia deal and it’s really this simple both us and Aston Villa wanted the player both us and Aston Villa seemingly bid for the player and Aston Villa beat us to the player. That’s it. The whole we’re dogshit now and being beaten to players by the likes of Villa vs the we’re still a big club and it’s no big deal is pretty irrelevant…cause you’re both right. My question on the whole thing is on the strategy of the (good… Read more »
Koscielny just flatly refused to stay and Arsenal were forced to accept Bordeaux offer.
What? We got a fee for him while he tried his best to go for nothing. That’s a poor example of player power right there know it all
Ishola 70 Despite your negativity about Xhaka he is a decent player and there will be more than one club wanting his services. Raptora Buendia is a decent player, but he played for Norwich in Championship and not in EPL. So spending £40 million [£33 million + add ons] is a significant price to pay for a player who might not be guaranteed a starting place in first team. Buendia’s main position is RW. He is not guaranteed a start in that position considering that we have Pepe and Saka also on books. Buendia may be considered slightly a level… Read more »
CC
“In very exact circumstances the player can influence matters, but not in Buendia’s case at all.”
Of course not in Buendia’s case.
Of course.
Zaha was a lot more money involved. Crystal Palace wanted a whole lot more money for Zaha than Norwich wanted for Buendia.
Crystal Palace basically made Zaha unsellable.
Norwich didn’t make Buendia unsellable.
You see the difference?
Almunia
Fully understand the environment surrounding Arsenal, just personally against the daily berating served up as I find it encourages a shift in view altogether. The football is by the wayside and focus shifts onto what can be critiqued and dismissed on the daily, it’s such a dismal what of behaving imo and there’s nothing admiral about finding fault in literally everything.
Emiratesstroller
“Despite your negativity about Xhaka he is a decent player and there will be more than one club wanting his services.”
Well name one other club then.
Gumbley Gasworks FC?
Buendia had the power because Norwich made him sellable.
Zaha didn’t have the power because Crystal Palace made him unsellable.
So player power exists when the club show they are willing to sell in Buendia’s case not a huge money deal.
Ishola
Zaha, Mahrez, and Suarez all wanted to join Arsenal and none of them joined. #playerpower
It’s circumstantial, Buendia just got promoted back to the PL and became a full international for the first time. You think he was about to strike for a move to Arsenal? Norwich had no incentive to accept 10+ million less for a player. Worst case scenario is what? He stays next season and has to perform because his international career dictates it, plus any future move to a big club expects it…oooh poor Norwich.
Ishola 70
I am not going to guess, but Xhaka would be in demand by many top half table clubs in leading European Leagues. I am sure that he can be sold for around £15-18 million.
just personally against the daily berating served up as I find it encourages a shift in view altogether.
Well you weren’t against it under Emery so best to take what your hypocritical ass says on this particular subject with a pinch of salt.
I fucking love the people who berated Emery while at Arsenal on the daily from everything down to his teeth, his posture during games and his bad English and now they want nothing but smiles and well wishes under Mikel Arteta. It’s a frankly pathetic u-turn that was so expected honestly
ES,
Buendia won 6 MotM awards in the 2019/20 Premier League season, playing for a side that recorded 5 wins, 6 draws and 27 defeats.
He won 14 MotM wards in the Championship last season.
He is impressive and we all know it. We should try not to be the fox saying how sour the grapes are.
We’ll see what happens to Buendia and if he becomes a sensation or not. But there is a good chance he was exactly what we needed.
Charlie
Crystal Palace put Zaha out of the price market.
A player can show power in a transfer deal when the club selling are not putting him out of the price market.
So in Buendia’s case he was very much able to show some preference himself if he so wished if multiple clubs come in for him.
“I am not going to guess, but Xhaka would be in demand by many top half table clubs in leading European Leagues.”
No whispers yet ES.
If there was this high demand for him as you imply wouldn’t we be able to get more than 15-18 m for him?
Neves is going for 35m apparently and all we keep hearing is that he is another Xhaka.
Charlie talking about 10m PLUS now, when the difference was 10m at best.
Even the 10m is wishful thinking. Only idiots don’t know that the bulk of the clauses never get paid because they are attached to highly improbable things like qualifying for the Champions League, winning the FAC or becoming the top scorer.
Ishola
But what about player power? Sounds circumstantial by your description.
What would’ve changed if Buendia had dug his heels in for Arsenal? Do tell me. Would Norwich have said fuck it to the extra 10+ million?
Marko
Good thing you’re not argumentative or anything like you claim I am. If you were you’d probably cut and paste a comment that doesn’t concern you at all and make a personal attack on that poster. Not you though. Tell me more about hypocrites 🤡
raptora
No-one disputes that Buendia is a good player and clearly Arsenal were interested in buying
him.
The point is that I doubt that he would be guaranteed a starting place at Arsenal.
His main position is RW. Do you guarantee him a starting place in that position ahead of
Pepe and Saka?
He has not played AMF for Norwich in last two seasons. Would you be able to guarantee him
a starting place ahead of Smith-Rowe and if so what would the impact on that young player
particularly when he is in process of negotiating a new contract?
10+ million again. LOL
Oh it’s 10m plus now is it.
Let’s not forget the + plus
A 30m bid from Arsenal is reasonable.
Norwich are not rolling in money.
If Buendia dug his heels in Norwich ultimately accept the 30m from Arsenal.
“Charlie talking about 10m PLUS now, when the difference was 10m at best.”
33 mil + 7 mil in add-ons + 10% sell-on.
That’s 40 mil plus any extra from a future sale, not hard. You’ve no idea what the add-ons relate to, but now you’re happy to reconcile the idea they wont be met. Hilarious. Norwich believe them to be reasonable, hence the agreement, but let’s ignore that.
Valentin, you are conflating the argument. Yes, Buendía could have dug his heels in but without knowing for certain, he must have felt AV wanted him more as they were willing to make Norwich a more attractive offer. Why would he then fight to go to a club that is clearly less keen to sign him? We’ll see eventually if we should have pushed harder by the end of the window. If we had really wanted Buendía, we would have outbid AV but people would be moaning that we’d paid too much if we’d gone North of say £40m which… Read more »
“”””Zaha, Mahrez, and Suarez all wanted to join Arsenal and none of them joined. #playerpower”””””
Loooool when Barca came calling on Suarez, when man c came calling on Mahrez, they left. When Villa came calling on Buendia he left.
“If Buendia dug his heels in Norwich ultimately accept the 30m from Arsenal.“
That easy. Norwich not in the business of making money or anything.
Hey I’m not actually arguing with you Charles I’m merely pointing out the hypocrisy between you on the daily criticizing everything under Emery to your 180 stance on Arsenal under Arteta. There’s not really much to argue there. Again just another topic to gloss over and not take you seriously on. But I do like the people around who try to police others on how to be a fan I really do given this place made it’s name on being contrary and critical… but anyway
Terra I agree that torreira we may struggle to sell
His stock has presumably fallen in Europe and South America is poor.
We will likely either take a financial hit on him or he gets reintegrated as a squad player. But I don’t see us getting a good sum for him this summer
If you were you’d probably cut and paste a comment that doesn’t concern you at all and make a personal attack on that poster
Oh like when I was talking to WE yesterday and in you came out of the blue? The self awareness.
Like I said hypocrite
Charlie
“That easy. Norwich not in the business of making money or anything.”
Yes 30m is a tidy sum for Norwich.
They made their extra on it because Buendia didn’t show preference for Arsenal.
How hard is it to accept that Diet Pep has little pull
Anyway the Buendia stuff is tiring he’s not worth nearly 40 million and there’s better out there for that or less. In saying all that Aston Villa did beat us to him and I’m okay with that