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Fans went into meltdown yesterday over a player they thought Arsenal were signing because he went to Aston Villa. The internet exploded. The club is apparently finished. Villa are now a bigger club than us… because fans take rumours as fact.

Quite the spectacle.

Buendia is no doubt a top talent. He’s powerful, mobile, and energetic. He’s also a chance creation machine. But that doesn’t mean we were in for him. If we were, we’d have landed him. No doubt. There is not a world where a player picks Villa over Arsenal unless there’s something wrong with them.

I suspect that the reason we’re not moving on him is Odegaard.

The rumour that really should have us worried is Reuben Neves replacing Granit Xhaka. That feels a lot more Arsenal if I’m honest. He’s with Jorge Mendes, he’s just had a very average season, and his signing probably doesn’t move us forward. He’s not really that mobile, he’s been outclassed this season by our current midfielders, and he’s quite one-paced. He’ll not be cheap.

It’s a peak-Edu move in my opinion. No imagination.

SPURS WERE BINNNED OFF BY CONTE. Amazing stuff. Daniel Levy tried to lure him to convince Harry Kane the project wasn’t dead… then he received the middle finger because Conte doesn’t think winning values align. Magic.

Right, short one today because I’m traveling. See you tomorrow!

 

 

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Crimson

What a absolute onion. Henderson is.

Crimson

Get a life sid..

Crimson

Or go back to your 12 year old Cambodian girls you like.

Guns of SF

Anguissa
Aouar
Noussair Mazraoui / Max Aarons

Maybe we should go back to Norwich with a similar offer for Aarons?
RB is a critical position to fill….
Before we know it, some other team will snap him up

Rich

Guns

I’d love Aarons

Hard to move for a right back until we get some out though

Bellerin, Soares, Chambers, Niles

We need to purge the squad of Bellerin, Soares + Niles, before we bring in another right back, and if we can’t move them on, we’ll have to go with what we’ve got

Soares was such a weird and pointless signing

Bob N16

Don’t disagree Pecko, we need to show real progress to keep our best players. We’re ‘lucky’ that most of our best players are really young but no doubt they’ll seek a move eventually if we can’t get back to the CL. My main concern is not whether Arteta gets the sack or not but the fact that Edu will probably still be there if say we need a new manager come December. If we get the right incomings(and outgoings) the manager’s role is arguably less important. Dare I say, look at the Chelsea model, get your squad management right and… Read more »

Crimson

For me grealish has to start for England.
Never gonna happen. But him in arsenal shirt would be the dream

Crimson

Squad purge!

Guns of SF

Rich this summer is different. Unlike others.
We need to snap up players sharpish…. sell our dross later on.
Look at Buendia…

We need to get on it.
As we speak, I hope that we have made contacts with other players.. with a deadline to obtain or move on. Quickly

Crimson

Sid is a massive troll and likes Cambodian girls.
Tell you that for free.

Crimson

Surprised Mr Pedro hasn’t banned him. For his pedophile views

Rich

Guns We’ve got a first team squad of 29 Every time we buy a player without selling one, we further decrease our selling position We’ll be left with an oversupply of players, and an undersupply of squad places, why would clubs give us money for a player we can’t register, don’t want, and have no need for? They can just wait and get loans, and we either accept that, or have an unmanageable squad of surplus players, it’s what happened with Guendouzi + Torreira in October This is the result of years of poor decision making, and non existent squad… Read more »

Crimson

Can daniel Ballard impress enough. To make the first team?

Crimson

10 out. 4 quality in

Guns of SF

Purge we shall, but not at the expense of waiting for that to happen and missing good targets. We need to sell, trade these dross players. I think it can be done. Guen to Marseille, send Torr to Italy, Kola to any team willing to buy ( he was a free).

Offer Nelson, Nketiah to prem teams in a player swap or deal… ex. Aarons.
Bissouma, Anguissa etc.

Trade bait to speak.

This is where Edu earns his keep… if he fucks this up, he needs to be fired.

Peckobill

Bob But again exactly the same players but look at the difference Tuchel made to Chelsea compared to their inept rookie Lampard. Better squad than ours yes but Tuchel had exactly the same players as lamps , not one single signing of his own . We need a better manager ASAP to progress which would then get the better players . Would buendia have forced that move to us if we at least looked like competing for top four and played attractive football . Would a better manager be looking at a better midfield instead of trying to replace xhaka… Read more »

Guns of SF

Good points Pecko, Arteta has lost a lot of good grace this season with the fans and players. Now we are seeing what finishing so poorly has done to our transfer window. Again, it might be the same thing- offering players massive wages to join us, as they might now initially overlook us to join other teams. So we get young and cheap upside risks or massively overpaid players who might also not work out. Loans seem like the least risky option for us given the mess we are in. If it does not work, send them back. I can… Read more »

Ishola70

If Arteta wants a pondering midfield that he thinks gives essential control and has a deep lying midfielder to give that sense of defensive security he loves then that is what he will give us.

Peckobill

Guns
I’m all on board with just loans and getting rid of players until arteta is gone . Otherwise we back to square one of trying to get rid of one paced players stuck on contracts .
A vicious circle we stuck in

Rich

Guns I’m with you We need a fire sale, shame we can’t hold an auction, start the bidding low, and try and create some demand Start the bidding off Kolasinac – Free to anyone who wants him Bellerin £12mill Niles £12mill Nketiah £12mill Runarsson – Loan Soares – Free to anyone who’s willing to take him Willian – Free to anyone willing to take him Mavropanos £8mill Nelson – Loan Torreira – £12mill Guendouzi £10mill Xhaka £15mill Elneny £6mill Lacazette £15mill 14 out, 7 in, first team squad of 22 Genuine competition for Leno First choice right back Genuine competition… Read more »

Sid

I might need to set a few bear traps round my residence, things getting creeepy

Ishola70

Neves is not another Xhaka though.

He can step up into the centre and compete in traffic among opposing players.

Xhaka in contrast disappears deep in such a scenario.

I don’t have faith anyway with any midfielder we buy to replace Xhaka with Arteta running the show. He will just probably place him in deep areas to give that sense of security he likes. So we will have the same problem. A man short in centre midfield.

Tee

“Is it ‘Tee’ for Tit?”

Roughen a feather?

Guns of SF

Rich that is about 100M in sales
Not bad.

Genuine competition for Leno- Onana
First choice right back- Noussair Mazraoui /Aarons
Genuine competition for Tierney- i dont know we have Soares/Chambers
3 central midfielders- Aouar, Neves/Bissouma/Lokonga, Willock
Attacking midfielder- Coutinho loan

Crimson

Nobody cares about you sid. Go yogi go. Hibernate

Crimson

Let proper peeps debate

Guns of SF

Genuine competition for Leno- Onana– 7M
First choice right back- Noussair Mazraoui-13M /Aarons-30M
Genuine competition for Tierney- i dont know we have Soares/Chambers
3 central midfielders- Aouar-30M, Neves/Bissouma-30M /Lokonga-12M, Willock-0M
Attacking midfielder- Coutinho loan-say 7M

Of course I am guessing on all these fees.

Dennis+the+Menace

The fire at this club continues to rage out of control. So much for the hope of settling our transfer business before the Euros inflates prices.

Crimson

Mavropanos is worth more than 8. Just saying

Tee

“Guns
I’m all on board with just loans and getting rid of players until arteta is gone . Otherwise we back to square one of trying to get rid of one paced players stuck on contracts .
A vicious circle we stuck in”

What kind of reasoning is this?

We should wait till arteta is gone before improving the team? We should just go for loans?

Arteta hatred has blurred some posters’ vision.

Maybe Chelsea shouldn’t have purchased any player other than loan when lampard was there. They should have waited till tuchel comes in.

Bob N16

The purge would also give us savings on our wage bill – ready to expand when we return to at least top 6 this time next year!

Rich

Guns

Providing we can clear the deck, I think we’ll spend £200+ million this summer

Arsenal can’t afford to invest, KSE can’t afford not to invest

Not convinced it’s wise to trust Edu + Arteta with the chequebook though, but I can see us going big….

Rich

Crimson

I was saying I’d like an auction to create demand, those are starting prices

Guns of SF

Spending 200M this summer.
Am I dreaming?!

I wish it will happen!

With the right pieces, it will make us competitive again for sure

Dream10

Mavropanos looked very good in a 2-1 Greece victory over Norway. Both Haaland and Ødegaard started. His distribution has Improved.

Both he and Saliba should be at the club next season. Tall CBs who are mobile

CG

Rich

(Your auction)

What s the bidding for the Imbeciles?

Edu
Arteta

Why aint they being headhunted by savvy rivals?
Dont other clubs want ‘a process’ too or its just Arsenal?

Rich

CG

We could do a raffle

1 prize, 2 booby prizes

Arteta, Edu + £1million cash

£2 a line, 1 million tickets

I’ll pocket the £1,000:000 that’s left over for organising it, and conveniently I’ll have the £1,000,000 winning ticket as well

Let’s make this happen……

Elmo

“So we get young and cheap upside risks or massively overpaid players who might also not work out.Loans seem like the least risky option for us given the mess we are in. If it does not work, send them back.” I think that’s about right, Guns. Probably best to blend the young, cheap, upside players with good value loans. If we were really confident that we had a DoF who had it all planned out, and had earned the security of tenure to outlast the comings and goings of managers, then there’d be no problem with how we built. But… Read more »

Crimson

We all know we have stupid non football people leading our club.. its resonance is trickling down..

Matt

Rich

You’re living in complete dreamland if you think we are going to get rid of 14 players in one transfer window.

Im not sure that’s ever happened with any premier league club, ever. Arsenal sure as hell won’t be the first ones to do it.

Dissenter

We have too many players that are not particularly good and we are hell bent on adding to that number

How in the world are we buying a substitute from Wolves to be a starter at Arsenal.?

Rich

Matt

I don’t think we’ll get rid of 14 players

I think we should try and get rid of as many as 14 players

Dissenter

For example we are struggling to move on Pierre’s favorite player, Eddie

Tabloid talk is we are offering him to Leeds for 20 million, the deal will probably be structured as £1 milion to be paid in 2024 with £19 million add-ons.

Even then, Leeds will still balk because they had him on loan and didn’t play him much. They know there re better deals on the continent.

CG

Thanks Rich

at your best, when you aint sitting on that fence.

Arsenal FC is a good as it gets for these 2.

Only down from here when the inevitable happens.

Dissenter

Rich,
when you say ‘get rid off’. , Are you talking about giving them away for free?

You know someone has to be willing to part with a fee, right?

For example, who’s going to pay a fee for Runnarson and then be saddled with the luxuriant wages Arsenal has blessed him with?

Dissenter

It’s always good to buy good young players, even when they don’t do well, you won’t have a problem selling them in.
We won’t lose money in Guendouzi, may not make a profit but we’ll selll him for more than 8 million we paid for him.

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Dream
He is deffo a strong lad..
But don’t he play on the right like saliba… And holding and chambers

Kroenkephobe

Nouveau Rich
There are some very expensive 18th and 19th century editions on ebay of ‘The Wealth of Nations’ by Adam Smith if you want to put your notional winnings to use. I won’t say ‘good use’ because you’d be better off reading something by Keynes of course.

Rich

Dissenter

We have to do whatever’s necessary

If that means driving them out to the middle of nowhere and leaving them there, then so be it…

My concern is we’ll pay Kolasinsc to leave, and then replace him with another subpar left back on a 5yr deal

Who’ll we’ll then have to pay to leave in 12 months time

Mr Serge

I would offer in any deal with bisouma Brighton need a finisher

Kroenkephobe

Rich has just read that folks and said ‘who the fuck is Keynes?’

Mr Serge

Would offer Eddie i meant

Johnno

I said everything was shit yesterday sarcastically because the reaction to the Buendia thing is OTT ( as always).

However – If we replace Xhaka with Neves and spend 20
Million quid doing so then everything really is shit

Mr Serge

Neves is an upgrade though he can turn on the ball and attack as well as play deep or more forward
Xhaka is bang average at everything

Adetunji

Pedro please be REAL. Arsenal wanted Buendia but couldn’t convince him. We must also accept that Arsenal isn’t as attractive anymore because their entire operations stink of a lack of ambition.
We will all watch as Buendia turn out a huge success next season while Arsenal will likely flounder with Arteta subjective judgement again. He’s a man who keeps doing the opposite of what will make him successful.
My fear is that Arsenal will likely lose it’s appeal with another underwhelming season.

MD-Gunner

@Pedro “Buendia is no doubt a top talent. He’s powerful, mobile, and energetic. He’s also a chance creation machine. But that doesn’t mean we were in for him. If we were, we’d have landed him. No doubt.” You are embarrassing yourself with the two concluding sentences and are loosing credibility. You also will get slaughter on this blog for such baseless assumptions. As was already posted in the previous thread, you must be busy composing one of two scenarios 1. Either rubbishing Buendia or 2. We never wanted him. Since it is the later one you came up with consider… Read more »

Trap

Ruben Neves is a proper proven Premiership midfielder and portugese international….. He might not be world class but if he joins alongside partey we have a very mobile and Technical midfielder base to build on . I was hoping for someone like Aouar so we could play 2 no 8s ahead of partey but I’ll take this anyday

Markymark

Tom – bang on . It’s so obvious Martinez who’s been pissed around by Arsenal has had a word. Come to Villa it’s more straightforward and less infighting crap. He’d chose Villa nailed on.

Mr Serge

Who gives a shit about buendia there are others next

Rich

Kroenkephobe I got kicked out of school at 14, not being educated by the system, and not being well read, is one of my best qualities I find the better the school or university someone attended, the more stupid they are, unfortunately they can’t teach common sense, and they don’t teach anywhere near enough critical thinking Career bureaucrats like yourself really crack me up You’ve got an apartment in North London, a house in West Wales Yet you hate the capitalist system that gives you your cushy lifestyle You’ve never had the pressure of employing people or running a business,… Read more »

Mr Serge

Rich strong words lol

Adetunji

Mr Serge

It’s true that quality players abound in the world. However, what’s most important is buying the players who suit the premiership and who can take the team forward. Players like Buendia are fast, strong and deliver what wins matches.

These sort of players aided Arsenal during the peak-Wenger years and you can see how Liverpool targets them. If left unchecked, Arsenal will remain a ponderous team that just pasess the ball in circles without end product.

Marko

not being educated by the system, and not being well read, is one of my best qualities

Explains so much about you

MD-Gunner

Serge “Who gives a shit about buendia there are others next” You conveniently omitted names of the others, and because Arsenal is being perceived now by other clubs to be an easy roll over, just like no one feared playing Arsenal at the Emirates, now no one fears taking Arsenal head on in player signing. More to come and expected in the summer TW, according to the Sunday Times, Arsenal have missed out on another target too with Celtic forward Odsonne Edouard ‘understood to prefer a reunion at Leicester City with Brendan Rodgers’. You can’t bring in players unless you… Read more »

Mr Serge

Ade not bothered about buendia for every Madison there is a behrama it’s hit and miss
If he turns out to be like Bellingham that’s a different story but he is nearly 25 and his only season in the prem was bang average

I would prefer us to target premier league players like anguisa or bisouma that have done well if we are going that route.
If we want to save money we have to find them like Leicester and Brighton and Southampton do before they go for big money

Mr Serge

MD i don’t give a shit though and i put some players i would prefer we target just for you

Mr Serge

MD

They are posters not readers
Who actually gives a shit about Eduard ffs
How is he going to move us forward ?

Jamie

“I find the better the school or university someone attended, the more stupid they are”

This statement only applies to Bamford.

MD-Gunner

Serge “If we want to save money we have to find them like Leicester and Brighton and Southampton do before they go for big money” How are you going to do that with a non existing scouting department? “I would prefer us to target premier league players” Man you are dense Arsenal did that and they were successful with Willian & Luiz 😆 The Arsenal squad is valued at £562 mil by football 365 and it is a tell tale when they concluded that Arsenal’s most valuable asset is the 19 year old Saka. Quoting Petit here is appropriate “I… Read more »

Mr Serge

MD i am dense ? Wow you keyboard warrior you 😂😂😂
Your two examples where free players that we should never have bought i am talking about young up and coming players that have done well at the club’s they are at not veterans at the end of their career
We don’t need any more of those.

Petit is just saying what a lot of people are saying it’s just common sense i am not going to lie awake at night worrying about what an ex player says

gnarleygeorge9

A melt down is a slow process, like one step forward & two steps back. Both characterise The Arsenal since Stan Kroenke took over. Another example of a melt down is main stream media, it’s becoming more & more irrelevant, like the Kroenke owned Arsenal, but it still persists in playing one off against the other to create mischief for the purpose of selling copy (or click bait as it is nowadays) Anyway, if you refuse to acknowledge that the one common denominator in the gradual melt down of The Arsenal has been the American takeover, then enjoy the slide.… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

MD

You are absolutely besotted with paper talk and headlines. Arsenal are linked with dozens of players each season, now we’re ‘missing out’ left, right, and centre because the Daily Mail wrote a headline about a footballer? Jesus Christ.

What’s Ian Darke had to say about matters? You normally quote him weekly.

Mr Serge

CC Ian darke is the font of all knowledge lol he is more of a boxing reporter.

Using luiz and willian as examples of us having tried the premier league route makes me laugh too
Some fans on here are drama queens of the highest order.
If we don’t do well in the first ten ganes with fans in the stadium MA will be gone
Simple as that he is not the major problem though it’s the shit board

Mr Serge

I don’t need to tell you i am talking about MD as you are not as dense as me lol

Words on a blog

Any news from the Ruthless Crew over at Arsenal?

MD-Gunner

@CC The ESPN pundits consider it below their dignity to discuss Arsenal anymore as it became evident with not a single mentioning in the last few shows. The on-line sports sites like to mention Arsenal because they know it is an excellent click bait, thuis the frantic posting here over the last week “get Grealish to come to Arsenal” by those that can’t distinguish reality from wishful thinking. Many here have commented how Arsenal is being mismanaged by Edu, Arteta & Vinai and allowed to do so by clueless KSE. That fact is bound to have results and the media… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

Luiz and Willian the ‘tried England’ approach? Jeez, throw in Cedric too. What’s that? Grand total of 8-10 mil between 3 players?

That’s the same as 18 mil on Sokratis, 25 mil on Torreira, 30 mil on Saliba, 70 mil on Pepe. Some return we’ve got from cornering Europe for the value. At least if we’d have spent that money on these shores we’d have been hard pressed to get a worse return.

Mr Serge

Words the ruthless crew has been disbanded and we are left with the useless crew sad times

Matt B

MD: Do you actually like Arsenal?

MD-Gunner

@Matt B Do I like Arsenal absolutely, like many others here who are longing for an Arsenal that they can recognize. Just don’t like the present make up of Arsenal, owner and management including players that don’t belong to this club. Felt Wenger needed not to be given a contract extension by KSE, hoped and trusted that Edu would be successful that was a misplaced trust, ditto for Emry but gave him the benefit of the doubt. However it ended when it became apparent that the selection of Arteta and those running the club dragged Arsenal down and my liking… Read more »

Useroz


Suspect that the reason we’re not moving on him is Odegaard”

That is a problem caused by sub par decision making many fans worry about,, and worse than just outbid by Vjlla…

Neves another case in point, as similarly stated above.

Valentin

MD, If Arteta and Edu genuinely think that exercising the option to extend Guendouzi one extra year to extract more money from Marseilles is going to work, I have a bridge to sell them. The more likely scenario is that Marseilles will just walk away and we will have an extremely pissed off player on our hand. I can even see Arsenal settling at the 11th hour on loaning him to Marseilles with an option to buy at a lower fee. Arteta does not want in his squad in his squad, so if we don’t sell now, we would end… Read more »

Nelson

If we spend our budget on Neves and not on Bissouma, then Edu should be fired. I find Xhaka even better than Neves.

MD-Gunner

@Valentin You might be right here, I was just thinking who made him decide to choose Hertha? It was Ozil’s input and since Ozil got what he wanted by playing it smart not to give Arsenal any reason to get rid of him without paying up he might consult with Ozil. All I am saying is since Guen is young and if he is talented he may take the risk and follow Ozil’s path in leaving Arsenal on a free to get a sign-on bonus at the next club. But you might yet to sell your bridge to Moe, Larry… Read more »

Guns of SF

“Dad you said Arsenal is a big club, why did they finish 8th in two seasons with no European football?”

My son knows the story. He says Arteta out! He even said today Wenger could do better- should we get him for a year? LOL

I dont think he was wrong… Arteta has been terrible this season

Dissenter

Guns
Be careful about using your son to make a point here
There are a few impulsive idiotsbtghat won’t hesitate to go after your child, better not cast your pearls before swine.

Guns of SF

Haha Thanks Dissenter.
I know who you talking about…

Dissenter

“If we spend our budget on Neves and not on Bissouma, then Edu should be fired. I find Xhaka even better than Neves.”

Yea, He’s just as slow as Xhaka, lacks Xhaka’s passing ability and can’t beat a press to save his life.

Only Arsenal will sell Xhaka for about 17 million and buy a lesser player for double that .

Johnno

MD The issue it appears is that you aren’t old enough. This is an Arsenal I can recognize. Useless owner. Lack ambition. A few top players – including some really promising academy graduates – a few splashy over paid names. A manager that is a gamble and the possibility of anywhere from 3rd to 9th depending on how the dice fall. That is the arsenal that I’ve supported for 45 years. It is only the brief 5-10 years of early wenger that were the exception. The fact that the club reverted to the mean by indulging wenger due to a… Read more »

Guns of SF

Thoughts on Pereira from West Brom?

Sid

Atleast Neves will Not play at AFCON, the competition for African based players only

Loooool

Guns of Brixton

BREAKING: Mavropanos pocketed Haaland

Guns of Brixton

Golden eye jems

Guns of Brixton

**Mislintant

Tom

So apparently Arsenal did match Villas offer for Buendia with their own 33m plus addons bid, as well as his wages which were reported at 80kpw , but he still chose Villa at which point Arsenal quit.

Not sure how reliable the sources that have reported this are but Pedro better fire up his propaganda machine and do his thing just as soon he’s done traveling.

We simply can’t have that.

China1

Cc you forgot 40m for xhaka and 35m for mustafi!

China1

Bob ‘ China, if you don’t just pile on to Arteta on any given day are you out of step with reason? If Pedro followed this line of thinking wouldn’t he be simply playing into ‘the Arteta is Satan!’ posse?’ Did we, or did we not just get hustled by the mighty Aston villa? Pretty much Every single news source is running with yes apart from Pedro who just so happens to be the arteta fan club grand wizard So my questions for you bob are thus 1) how does it make you feel that we get hustled by the… Read more »

Zimbogunner

Always clamouring for wrong signing. What have Bunedia won to make noise about?
He belongs to small clubs so good luck to him at Villa. If all you think we are big we should be seen bidding for players other big clubs are in for.
Making noise for Bissouma and Anguissa shows we now lack class. How many other clubs are going after them? Mind they’re Africans too you know about the AFCON plus the age cheating shit!
Same people who were insulting wenger some years back for not signing YangaMbiwa, Bassong, Taraabat and Holtby signings that proved shit

MD-Gunner

@Johnno I feel for you and there may be a silver lining here, when you will meet your maker he will look at you and simple say “Johnno, you suffered enough as an Arsenal fan I am going to give you a pass”. However, with your opinion of “No amount of barking at the moon by fans has ever changed us. Can’t see it happening now” I might have a different take. The ESL disaster for the first time had such an outraged supporters reaction, that it caused the UK government to make noises on withholding player permits, it doesn’t… Read more »

Tom

China1
If “the Independent” story is on the money then this is actually worse than originally thought.
Making a 30m bid, if that’s your Buendia valuation, and refusing to get into a bidding war with Villa who offered 33m could be seen as a sign of character rather than weakness.

Matching Villas numbers on the transfer and wages front and still losing out is just embarrassing.