It is a HUGE game today. All the usual suspects won their games… bar City, they lost in an embarrassing 2-3 thriller away at Norwich.
What a result for Premier League new boys. They were well worth it as well. Very organised. They ran their guts out. They took their opps when they were presented to them and they carved out one really awesome counter-attacking goal.
I loved reading the post-match commentary from the fans. Raheem Sterling is now average. Pep has finally been found out. Manchester City are certainly losing the league to Liverpool.
You couldn’t make it up.
In a post fan tv world, the only place to exist on the radical edge of everything.
For me, what is clear is this… Arsenal are winning the bloody league. Yes, fellas, Unai is bringing it home.
First up, we have to destroy Watford by 11 goals to climb second (from 7th). Be realistic, probably 12 or 13 because the chances of us keeping a clean sheet are pretty slim.
We’re in a post-Lacazette world for the next month. There’s a lot of fans getting their panties in a twist over the lack of an Eddie in the squad. I think people need to remind them of the troubles the young forward was having when he was getting game time with us.
I assume the thinking from Emery will likely be to have Auba as the lead striker, and if he needs a rest, we’ll slip Pepe in there. He’s very comfortable through the middle and offers all the same attributes as Auba… bar the unreal finishing (in England at least).
Also worth remembering Lacazette is not good away from home. His record is very poor, I think Tammy Abrahams has more goals this season than Laca had in the entirety of last year. He’s also not hugely prolific. He scored a Premier League goal every 192 last season. I know he does a lot for the team, he landed 10 assists, which is impressive for a striker.
Anyway…
I think where we’re going to see the innovation is out wide. The manager has quite a few players to choose from. We have a lot explosive pace this year, and starting your career out wide is a lot less stressful than through the middle. I think Reiss has a huge chance to lay claim to a first team spot. I think Saka has always looked very promising when offered a chance to stretch his legs, he also looks very ready from a mentality perspective, no fear in his eyes. Then we have wildcards like Gabriel, who IS the new Anelka… and potentially ESR who has a lot of versatility.
In short, I think Eddie is going to learn more out on loan this season with Leeds, versus playing a bit part role when his confidence was looking pretty touch and go.
We know what we’re going to get tomorrow. Bullied.
Watford are playing under Quique again, he’ll bring a lot of energy, he’ll make them work like dogs and I’ve no doubt we’re going to be penned into tight areas all game long much in the same way we were against Burnley.
I’ll keep on saying it, but I truly hope Emery has learned his lesson with three holding midfielders. We’re not built for deep blocks and I don’t think players care for the pragmatism. We’ve been porous all season. We shipped lots of shots against Spurs and Liverpool. The same happened against fu*king Burnley of all clubs.
The manager needs to take advantage of the technical superiority we have over Watford, that’s not going to come from attack-minded players shutting up shop.
Let’s stretch them, let’s play the beautiful game, let’s bring some excitement to the pitch… we need a performance. Chelsea looks great yesterday, there’s no reason we can’t offer up the same type of decisive output.
Right, just a short one today. I’ll see you in the comments where I shall eviscerate your challenges with word bullets.
x
Whose dick does Martinelli have to suck to get some minutes as well?
Nelson is toilet.
We’ll wait till eternity before we’ll see just a decent match from emery
Someone posted earlier van Persie’s comments about Arsenal under Emery.
He was absolutely bang on.
Emery is so much of a shitcunt that he doesn’t even trust his players against bottom of the table Watford.
He’s adjusting our game and asking our players to adapt against fvcking Watford.
And it shows in their scared and feeble performances.
Its embarrassing.
Its outrageous.
Its unacceptable.
EMERY OUT!
This is bad, but not as bad as surrendering a 4 goal lead to Newcastle.
The fact that Arsenal goal kicks are greeted with the same noise and anticipation by supporters as if their side had got a free kick in a great area should tell Emery everything.
My backing for emery is dead in the water.
He confuses himself. His substitution are questionable.
The set up changes during the game and no clear systems for the player to practise and memorize is a joke.
No wonder everyone looks so confused.
Starting the game with another diamond!!!
You have to laugh now.
I read the other day that Emery used to roll dice to pick his team.
That’s when any hope I had died.
I was all for giving him a chance and really thought he might have come in this season with a clear game plan and learn lessons.
But nothing. Literally nothing.
Lampard knew.?
Cc
We’ve spent £350 odd million in last 3 seasons and shipped off the “deadwood”
Hired a wonderfully talented new tactical mastermind
How the fuck are we worse than when wenger was using Giroud, Walcott and coq??
The bloke is an utter mess.
Unless the summer months passing magically means Emery has his players.
I mean it’s not as if I didn’t say numerous times last season we need another two or three transfer windows to sort out our squad, or repeat it again before today’s game about having too many youngsters close to the first team.
Embarrassing stuff.
Emery should just leave. The worst manager in the PL. With such a squad, he cant beat a pub team. We wasted money on that shit called Pepe. Nelson is light weight, Willock light weight, ……….negative football by removing Ceballos and Ozil. Torreria did fuck all. A midget in a physical league.
Souness bang on!
Brings on kids when it’s time to muck in.
Paulinho
There you go, what now? I’ve got to address one particular comment you made or no valid point can come of it?
You spent the season berating the players and insisting Emery couldn’t come good until he got his own lot in. Well he’s added again and coached for over a year to drop performances like that. So high five for you.
Dead simple. Do you rate the manager? Or would someone else do better?
CESC,
I’m glad you noticed that.
My mate was even calling that a joke. Couldn’t believe it hearing it.
It took the 4th time, then we finally conceded. Kick it fucking long for fuck sake
Lille can’t stop laughing… Well done guys!! lol
Arsenal need to find urgently a solution to our backline. Both Maitland-Niles and Kolasinac are not fit for purpose in EPL. It is costing us goals in almost every match we play. In absence of Bellerin and Tierney Arsenal need to play a back three formation with either Holding or Chambers playing in combination with Sokratis and Luiz. Xhaka needs to be replaced as well. He is too pedestrian for EPL and that is impacting on his recovery when he is outpaced on counter attack. What is blindingly obvious is that there is no balance in the team at the… Read more »
Surely if we ran a poll on whether we should give emery another season 100% on this blog would say no.
He just doesn’t have what it takes to take us to the next level. We do have glaring weaknesses in our squad but he exacerbates rather than minimises them.
Anyone who keeps making a case for Xhaka, should have their head examined – and that includes Emery.
I know some would point to the fact that he didn’t make any glaring mistakes in the game but time and again, he was left for dead in the heart of midfield which resulted in the defence being put under so much pressure.
Without a doubt, Arsenal’s midfield would look instantly better with a player like Doucouré in it. Watford deserved their point in the end.
Gazzap – exactly my thoughts.
I am sure I am missing a few, but for the life of me I can’t remember a game under Emery that we properly controlled. It’s ~ 60 games now.
The more I see the first goal again the more I start to really dislike Sokratis
As much as I liked what I saw from Torreira early last season I think you’ve got to say Emery was right on that one, a situation where stats lead to a bad decision. Has some great attributes but with each passing game I’m more and more thinking he won’t cut it in the EPL.
If a Serie A club want him sell and get in a fast, hard working, physical 6ft plus CDM.
Those with their eyes functioning sussed out emery since last season but only the blind sheepishly follow him. How can you watch a match like this in which emery himself lived out “clueless”, he exuded it just as he always has and still think the individual errors cost us this match? It’s always individual errors with emery’s team, isn’t it?
Fully expecting us to still play out of the back next game, what a stupid coach, we deserve better than this!
This draw is all on Emery.
You make a stupid mistake, you go to the Bench.
AMN, Luiz, Guendozi, Nelson, Willock were all horrible today.
How funny some who were defending Emery to the tilt before the game are now in meltdown after an atrocious performance. We have been slowly becoming worse since mid February. That should have been exactly the point where Emery’s influence should have started to really impacted the club. We should have seen massive improvement. In reality, the defense is shambolic and getting worse by games. The midfield setup in way that is incomprehensible for everybody except the coach. In his Evening Standard column Alan Smith wrote that he had heard rumbles from the training ground that Emery was confusing some… Read more »
31 shots to 7. Beat in nearly every category against a side sitting bottom. Taking a negative approach to the game.All this on you Emery.+ What did Emery say to his players at half time?. Go out and stroll for 45 cuz we have already won the game?. AMN was ripped to shreds. Apart from the cutback there was nothing he did in the match. Sokratis and Luiz doing what they do best. If they keep playing like the way they have been then surely Mustafi is gonna find his way back in the starting 11. 90% of goals we’ve… Read more »
PieAFC
I was doing the same as your friend. Screaming at my TV each time they did it.
From that moment Arsenal completely lost control of the game. They went on to fuck up another 3 or 4 of those as well afterwards.
I haven’t been that angry watching an Arsenal game in a long time.
Hard to judge any of the players under Emery, either they aren’t understanding what he wants from them or they are not giving their all for him. Either way he needs to go, and sooner rather than later.
Emery out if Arsenal. Now! He is this good. And, no better. He can never be better than 5th inPL. Sorry Emery, you’ve run your course. Please leave now.
UE needs to go now and Freddie given a chance till end of season.
Paulinho
Give it a rest. You’re making a fool of yourself. He’s got an elite squad of players and he’s crumbled to Watford
31 shots shipped
8/15 points.
Emery fucked this game today
The way he is setting our defence up puts far too much pressure on a shit defence.
He won’t change it yet he’s meant to be a chameleon? What a fucking laugh:
He inept changes our positive aspects and sticks to his guns on the aspects that makes us worse
Paulinho Wenger never missed top 4 until Santi got injured. So, no he didn’t have Santi in his last two seasons and even Ramsey spent more time on the treatment table than on the pitch. See Emery makes baffling selection decisions himself. XHAKA always in the starting 11, Sokratis ahead of Chambers, he took Ceballos off the only player who played with some intensity. And let’s not pretend we were in control at any stage of the game. Watford were always the more dominant team. For someone who attaches a lot of value to away performances, you should be worried… Read more »
Cesc appeal
“Dani Ceballos was very good and selfless throughout I thought. Ozil was lazy yet again and that was a hideously bad call from Emery, leaving the latter on and taking the former off. ”
Still blaming Ozil I see…
Unaai Mate words fail me when you take a step back and look at the bigger picture, I’ve no patience for anyone claiming its a player issue at this point simple as. We’re obviously a work in progress but we’re not talking about being 2nd fiddle to Spurs and United, we’re talking about getting our shit shoved in all over the pitch by Watford, Burnley, even Newcastle having a good go. Pedro stoked the Mourinho fires and I jokingly said fuck it, get Jose and i’ll get the jerrycan. We’d be no worse off, the defence would be drilled, and… Read more »
Emery gets sacked tomorrow and Marcelino comes in. Does AMN get any better? Does Sokratis or Luiz stop the errors? Does Xhaka become influential and learn how to tackle? If so then let’s do it.
Charlie – You have to address what your actual point is. What has come undone?
I said I will judge him when players like Xhaka and AMN are not playing for us, one of them a plank you were telling us was comparable to Xavi Alonso when he joined.
They are still here last I checked.
Watford really should have won, Doucure would have had a goal of the season contender there if he puts it either side of Leno.Season is already starting to unravel, that’s 7 points dropped from 9 and we’re playing like shit.
Arsenal have faced more shots than any other side in the top 5 leagues.
I mean…something has to change, badly.
Emery can be got rid of at the end of the season if things don’t pick up for nothing, but something at CDM and in defence needs to change.
That smacks of a team not offering any midfield coverage at all.
Please can we stop playing out the back. Its an arsene level of ignorance to persist with a tactic that causes more problems than it solves.
The backline is a huge problem for us. Luiz is shit, shame on all the myopic people that actually saw this as a good move. As was said time and time again he’s a liability and will cost us.
Red – at least against Newcastle we had the best player on the pitch sent off.
TR7- Yeah, and we were complete joke away from home in Wenger’s last season.
Worth repeating
Rambo RamseySeptember 15, 2019 18:39:55
Someone posted earlier van Persie’s comments about Arsenal under Emery.He was absolutely bang on.Emery is so much of a shitcunt that he doesn’t even trust his players against bottom of the table Watford.He’s adjusting our game and asking our players to adapt against fvcking Watford.And it shows in their scared and feeble performances.Its embarrassing.Its outrageous.Its unacceptable.
So for their first goal, Cleverly was already in the box which is against the rules but VAR can intervene. Still, why are we playing out from the back? We were also out-passed. Wenger seems to be better than Emery so far.
Emery would be doing himself a very big favor to stick with just one formation.
As for still playing Xhaka or selling him, you can’t sell them all at once.
You have to stagger it or the whole thing could fall apart. We’ve already sold a lot without replacing properly.
Get Daniel Farke in now and we will immediately see an improvement in every aspect of our play. …..guaranteed.
Lille and Chelsea pissing themselves…..if you’ve got any garbage you can dump it off at The Emirates
Emery should stop playing fan (Champagne charlie) favourite Xhaka and cull the usual culprits…
Xhaka saying the players were scared wtf.
Who can forget Arsenal surrendering a 2 goal lead at Half time against Spurs….Arsenal 2 Spurs 3…
“I said I will judge him when players like Xhaka and AMN are not playing for us, one of them a plank you were telling us was comparable to Xavi Alonso when he joined.“ Yea slow clap for you, you’ll judge the manager when he’s bought 23 of his own lot in because no manager has ever come into a side and simply coached, drilled, managed players into better than they were delivering. Emery was brought in because Wenger was getting nothing out the side, lets not forget that. So him being a better manager should’ve seen a great upturn… Read more »
I always knew Ozil would outlast Emery…
The clock is ticking…Edu and Raul must have been appalled at what they were watching today .
So the manager brings on kids. Even though we were nervous.
“What happened in the second half?”
“Err good ebenin “
Wow.
Doucoure not good enough for Arsenal? He’d be first midfielder picked every week.
Pepe? I’m so afraid right now. That arsenal’s Scouting network has signed a YouTube star.
Luiz? I mean wow.
The club owners need to get a hold of this manager and coaching staff. We are literally giving points away.
Pepe looks like a championship player.
“As for still playing Xhaka or selling him, you can’t sell them all at once.You have to stagger it or the whole thing could fall apart. We’ve already sold a lot without replacing properly.“
We’re recruiting poorly are we?
Is Emery the man for us? you didn’t lay that one on the table..
What about the 8-2 humiliation…we’re not at that level yet……..
What a stupid coach to insist on this playing from the back with players that are so poor on the ball. Know your players’ strengths for fuck sake.
Today’s game reminded me of the Everton game last season where we just didn’t show up whatsoever. You do have to worry about why isn’t the belief or confidence drilled into this team where’s it coming from cause it clearly isn’t coming from the manager. But at the same time I just can’t help but think how dickless a player you must be where you can’t show up in those types of games. Are they such puppets.
Sack the idiot right now and install FL. The shape and mentality of the team is just so awful. No matter the quality of your players, they should be able to take a desired shape.
He’s a bumbling fool.
Manuel, fawlty towers. 100%.
He capitulated to Watford. He won’t drop this shit from the back. He won’t firm up the midfield.
He’s trying to be too clever and he’s fucking our team up because of it.
These players were beating United chelsea and spurs last season
Valencia and Napoli
Don’t give me the players bull shit
We’ve improved the squad this summer too.
If we play to our players strengths, ….we’ll be playing like Wimbledon….
Charlie – How’s Emery getting on without Ramsey, and being flooded with a load of shit youngsters, along with Granit Alonso and the rest of shit Wenger left behind him?
Unsurprisingly, not great.
Expecting improvement with garbage players still in the squad is like expecting a cancer patient to return to health removing a couple of metastatic tumours in non-threatening areas and leaving in a tumour that is blocking a bile duct.
*without
Paulinho, that’s hardly a defense of Emery. We were shit under Wenger and he lost his job. Why should Emery continue ? He doesn’t even do the protagonist stuff that you so often talk about. Instead of imposing our game, our mids were backing off and off every time Watford ran through them, some protagonists.
He’s absolutely clueless that manager especially for sticking with Xhaka after a year, that alone is a sackable offence in my eyes. Also time to give Chambers more game time, can’t be any worse than the human lump that is Sokratis
How is Emery to blame for two individual errors costing Arsenal the win.,
If I was Josh K I would speak to emery and be clear that none of our players should feel under threat from losing a place in the team if they hit it long,
Also I’d have a quiet word with Eddie Howe’s agent and see if he’d be up for it. I’d say to Emery he’s got to get results soon.
and I’d tell him Xhaka’s shit.
Fucking Gudibini on the radio talking about how good Watford were last season as a justification for why this was a difficult match to get anything from. No other manager playing the bottom team in the league is thinking like that.
Paulinho
That’s precisely what I’m talking about, you actually think Emery isn’t producing because he doesn’t have the tools to do so. How ridiculous.
Standard Ramsey name drop, doubt he’d have done much today what with him being injured and that. Pretty sure there’s only 4 players that are still at the club from the FA Cup final 2 years ago too.
This is Emery’s team, complete nonsense to claim otherwise.
” Hard to judge any of the players under Emery, either they aren’t understanding what he wants from them or they are not giving their all for him. Either way he needs to go, and sooner rather than later.”
Read the training ground insight from Valentin. It all adds up. The Spanish Waiter is just good for bringing in the paella.
To the querry as to whether ANM, Socrates, Luiz will get better if Emery goes ?
Definitely the 4 will be less confused which is a massive improvement.
#EmeryOutRightNOW
Paulinho
This squad is far superior to the one wenger has in his last 2 years and he’s done nothing with it.
He had Ramsey last year and did nothing with him
Only lacazette and Aubameyang saved him.
Xhaka’ from the first second to the last we were scared
Hmmmmmm must of Ben a great half-time team talk.
Paulinho
” – How’s Emery getting on without Ramsey”
Do you mean the Ramsey who was benched by Emery for 9 consecutive league games last season.
“What about the 8-2 humiliation…” Here come the “what about Wenger past bad results” brigade! Nobody care about Wenger past bad results against top 4 clubs. TODAY, we are not getting good result against the BOTTOM club. Not just a bad result, but a performance so atrocious that we got schooled by them. The draw was a travesty and entirely due to the quality of Aubameyang. Take your “I HATE WENGER MORE THAN ANYBODY ELSE” blinders and look at the current situation of the club. Does anybody think that we have improve since last season? Does anybody think that with… Read more »
The guy doesn’t speak English
Red
‘How is Emery to blame for two individual errors costing Arsenal the win.,’
You are being a contrarian just for the sake of it. It’s not that we were in cruise control and unfortunately conceded two accidental goals. Watford were all over us the entire game bar the 10-15 mins lull post our 2nd goal.
“That’s precisely what I’m talking about, you actually think Emery isn’t producing because he doesn’t have the tools to do so. How ridiculous.”
Which is what I’ve said all along, so where is the ‘undone’ bullshit that has supposedly come to pass?
“Expecting improvement with garbage players still in the squad is like expecting a cancer patient to return to health removing a couple of metastatic tumours in non-threatening areas and leaving in a tumour that is blocking a bile duct.“
One of the dumber analogies i’ve read on here, A+.
Paulinho.
This has to be on emery.
The players look confused. Even the subs, they got taken off. He brings on youth and tells them to sure-up the midfield against a pressing watford side.
Blame the players or coach.
The team look confused every time we step out.
Instead of imposing our game, our mids were backing off and off every time Watford ran through them, some protagonists.
Yeah why was that? You think it was by design then. Xhaka you shy away from the ball and eh don’t dictate play (apparently he’s good at that). Yeah I personally just don’t know someone will have to explain to me how a team who are good on paper but were so bad on the pitch.
Good Ebening!
“Do you mean the Ramsey who was benched by Emery for 9 consecutive league games last season”
Because he didn’t contribute off the bench at all did he.
We’ve played some tough games so far but this should have been our coming out party.
Emery is under SERIOUS scrutiny now. With the greatest respect forget Watford. They were gifted two goals in a manner you would curse on hackney marshes.
Both mistakes had been preempted by pundits and fans very week this season, playing from the back and Luiz being Luiz. And that is exactly what we’ve done.
It’s not working. We need a rethink. And we need it this week.
On BBC football
Duncan Alexander
@oilysailor
Arsenal have faced 96 shots this season, more than any other side in the PL, Serie A, La Liga, Ligue 1 & the Bundesliga. Some effort that.
6:26 pm · 15 Sep 2019·TweetDeck
Laughing stock of world football
Red
Because it’s his tactics putting this pressure on the defence
It’s his way of playing which causes the midfield to be dysfunctional
It’s his idea of stretching our team which causes holes and leaves our attack so isolated
This is his game plan and it’s failing match after match after match
We were playing wengaball in the first half of last season and then emery kicked his chameleon nonsense into gear and we fell apart
What a shambles
Hate to say I told you so…….
His post match interview is embarrassing…
It’s Manuel from Fawlty Towers….
A Joke
At least 6 Wenger flops were playing today..
Charlie – Yeah, it is if you’re the dumbass that still too arrogant to admit Xhaka is shit (despite hilariously trying to distance yourself from him over the last couple of years).
Quite similar to Wenger now I think about it………
Just saw the table and Watford are bottom ! I’m sick of the fact that even Watford play more attacking and entertaining football than us. Not even Emery’s staunch supporters can defend this.
We got real lucky at the end. If the ball was even a foot more off the ground. It was going in. Not that it matters. Emery seems to have pulled off a Houdini act in landing the Arsenal job.
It’s going to be a long season culminating in massive disappointment.
Because he didn’t contribute off the bench at all did he.
Paulinho
So why keep him there if he’s so effective?
You can’t be protagonists with slow, limited footballers in the middle of the pitch. Simple.
Even if it is a case of the players being wank because of the manager it must be said how does that excuse said players that against the likes of Watford put in those types of performances. It’s the same types as well just the excuses are different. I’d feel sorry for Marcelino for working with that midfield and defence
“Which is what I’ve said all along, so where is the ‘undone’ bullshit that has supposedly come to pass?“ I’d say it comes in the form of him getting another summer of recruitment under his belt and returning absolute wank still – thus undoing your crystal ball readings. But you’d sooner harp on about Ramsey and make Granit Alonso quips because anything beats tackling the idea Emery would come good with better players at his disposal when the reality is stark. You’ve mentioned the players being subpar, and the recruitment not being up to scratch, but Emery? He’s seemingly a… Read more »
Emery Gurning face of the funny mirrors has he even got his Badges.
Tactically as unaware as Wenger was.
Expecting improvements after improving nearly every area of the squad?
Naaaaa
What were we thinking
What a complete shit show that was! Emery isn’t going to take us forward. The earlier we get him out, the better.
For all of the blame that the players receive we’ve conceded over 30 shots today to Watford fielding a side with Pepe, Ceballos, Toreirra, Luiz, Sokratis, Guendouzi, Leno who are all players that we’ve brought in since Emery was appointed.
Only so much longer that you can lay the foot of the blame at the player’s door and not Emery, especially considering the manner in which Watford flattened us today.
A Wenger regime signing in Aubameyang bailed him out with a lucky point ffs.
“harping on about Ramsey”
Mentioned him once, among other things.
Still a sore spot I see.
lol so many on here stating Arsenal would run away with third place.
Ga-Ga Land.
To say that result was shit is just understating. It’s a loss really. A big L.
How the fuck can you throw away a two goal lead against this shit Watford side who were so obviously low on confidence.
Horrific.