Ivan the terrible keeps on giving – Ramsey ducks with HUGE win

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It’s not often I’ll concede and take a fat L, but today, I must.

Aaron Ramsey’s agent has only gone and done it. £140k a week NET fam… which works out at around £280k a week GROSS. That’s good cash. Baldwin, you’re the British Raiola, and we’re proud to have you raping the game for all it’s worth.

Well played.

As for Aaron, it’s over. The much-loved Welshman is ducking out with a huge win. He’s going to one of the most prestigious clubs in the world, he’s playing for a top 3 manager, and he gets to live in Turin.

God speed.

This goes down as one of the worst episodes in a long line of Game of Thrones like transfer catastrophes. Arsenal could have tied Rambo, Ozil and Sanchez down to longterm deals 4 years ago after we’d just beaten Villa in the FA Cup final. We dithered, wouldn’t pay out wages that outstripped Wenger, and the rest is history. We let one go for £35m, lost one on a free, and stuffed ourselves with the one that cared the least for £350k a week.

What a disaster.

It was the right decision though. A Europa League team cannot keep on dishing out £150k+ a week deals. We’ve made a total hash of those sort of contracts already. Ozil, Lacazette and Mikhi spend most of their time on the bench. Aaron is a good player, but I don’t believe in him as £300k a week player. If he’d been Pep trained from 20, sure, but he’s been schooled in the woods for 8 years. I also don’t think we can afford that sort of luxury anymore. We need Torreira players. £25m in fee and £65k a week in salary.

The big fear that I have now is how we get out of this absolute mess.

Our wage bill is fucked, we have no saleable assets, our youth players are good but there are no Cesc’s bubbling up, we have an ageing defence and most importantly… there’s no fucking money to pull ourselves out of the problem. Oh, and we also fucked our managerial appointment.

The pain is real.

We’ll have to unfuck ourselves first, then we’ll have to reset, then we’ll have to pray for diamond eyes to come good.

It very much looks like we’re going to be out in the wilderness for a long time.

Such a shame we spent the banter years hoarding money, buying shit players for big money, as well as sheltering an utterly dross coaching staff.

Anyway, needed to get that out my system.

Onto more positive tones tomorrow.

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raptora

“The Suarez deal is taking forever”

It’s been 5 and a half years and we’re still waiting. Sign da thing!

Paulinho

Jamie – How he does over there is a completely different matter to the point that was being argued up until this point, dependent on various factors(injuries etc), so you wouldn’t be able to rub my nose in anything anyway.

If his game was a fraught with limitations as you’re still claiming, one would wonder why Juve aren’t aware of it, and why they’ve made second highest earner on a five year contract……

Guns of Brixton

Gotta appreciate the way Juventes buy and sell!!!

Effing shrewd bunch.

🧐

Receding Hairline

He bought Leno, Sokratis, Licht and Torreira and things have gotten worse.

Sven and Raul bought the players mentioned. You make it sound like Emery specifically requested said players.

If he were left to buy his own players i am pretty sure none of the ones above will be brought in and we will see lots of Spanish imports, not saying his signings will be any better, just pointing out he did not sigh any of those players himself, he does not have that power

China1

Terraloon re your comment on the previous post it’s hardly comparable to you or I seeking lost wages

If he’s choosing to delay joining juve u til the end of his contract then it specifically means he values a scudetto and who knows whatever other trophies, prestige and the chance to play with dybala, Ronaldo, cheillini etc less than the extra 30-50k he will earn a month on top of what will already be a fabulous salary.

*if* that’s the case, his priorities are ass backwards at his age

Receding Hairline

No one knows how Ramsey will do at Juventus

Personally i think he will do okay, he has lots of stamina when fit and can flourish in a slower league in the dying stages. I see him playing some sort of super sub role there.

Dissenter i do not think Ramsey has any commercial value that has not been tapped yet, he just doesn’t have that start quality

Guns of Hackney

Loads of people on here are acting as if Emery took over Hartlepool and not the billionaires at Arsenal.

The team has got worse. This is a fact backed up by stats.

Leedsgunner

Did Spuds spend £200 million? You talk as is that’s the only way. We rolled the dice last January and it still didn’t work. There are no quick fixes I’m afraid. No, that’s a fair point but in Pochetinno they did have a manager who has a clear vision of what he wants his team to play. Plus Levy is a tough tough negotiator who has helped his team immensely by achieving top dollar for their prize talents. Sure, they didn’t buy this past summer but they have bought well in previous transfer windows… and more importantly sold well… and… Read more »

Dissenter

This is not a buy and sell job for Juventus though.
This is a five year deal for a 28 year old on 280k weekly gross, that’s not considering the sign on bonus and agent fees.
They will have to pay him off to get rid of him early beforehand contract runs out.

Victorious

Emery will totally lose my respect then if it happened he accepted the arsenal gig without making inputs on transfers

I mean who does that? It doesn’t always end well

Thought he should be drafting a list of targets to the transfer committee who then ponder on the plausibility of such targets and then ensure to bring them in.

Dissenter

Victorious
Regarding Ramsey’s commercial value
I recall people saying Garett Bale didn’t have much commercial value when he left spuds.
I think he has untapped commercial value. He will be one of the two faces of Juventus.

Victorious

Torreira,Lict,Guen are probably Emery’s and then there’s Suarez who the club is looking to bring in for him

Receding Hairline

So now all of a sudden Emery is buying the players not diamond eye Sven

If you credit Emery for Torrieira, Guendouzi what exactly has Sven done in the last window to warrant the recent promotion he got…Sokratis at 30??

Cesc Appeal

I still think we’re likely to see players like Wolf, Maier, Sarr etc in that sort of £10-30 Million young potential superstar range. Players with huge football and financial upside in the same style as Mavropanos, Guendouzi and even Torreira to an extent. The experienced buys that have been brought in were to try, at least, to stop the ship sinking and Aubameyang was to cover for the fact that clearly people at the club though Lacazette was not good enough. The buys this January I’m not sure you can read too much into any potential ‘vision’ the club has… Read more »

Dissenter

Leeds
We all keep assuming that Poch will walk out on Spuds

What if he doesnt?
They have two players with transfer value that’s worth our entire squad. They aren’t doing badly even if they don’t win anything. Kane and Ericksen will fetch them at least £300-350 million if sold today., more than enough to rebuild a squad smartly. Their billionaire owner doesn’t have to spend a dime, right?

You’re throwing all these populist jingoistic themes; first bash Kroenke then throw in some spuds jabs as well. These are things that rile visceral emotional tones but aren’t that factually correct.

Graham62

The Wenger/ Gazidis regime will go down in the annals of history. Easy to see why it all went pear shape. Wenger didn’t trust/like Gazidis and Gazidis basically wanted to fcuk with Wenger. Years of false pretence led to the inevitable consequences that befell the club. The whole thing was based on ” I’ll make you look an utter asshole”. The fact that these two between them created so much damage, goes to show how blind our fanbase were over these past few years. I met Gazidis once, when I was a member of the ineffective and spineless AST for… Read more »

Shyam

I don’t understand why even here Ozil gets a lot of beating. The club could have sold him,but din’t which wasn’t his mistake. As a human we all try to make the most of the opportunity and Ozil is human. Even a lame person knows by sales of his merchandise the club generates huge revenue. Why can’t Emery try to use his positives, give him a free role, I am not asking to build a team around him,but to use his positives. I think 3-5-1-2 would be the way to go.

Graham62

Make a list of all the positives since Emery took over, then draw up a list of all the negatives.

Just about even-stevens I reckon.

Make up your own lists and see what you come up with.

Victorious

I think he has untapped commercial value. He will be one of the two faces of Juventus”

Absolutely, Juve are a shrewd outfit though, the CR7’s deal was top notch both on and off the field, they’ll make up a large chunk of his deal on His commercial returns alone,not to talk of chances of finally clinching the ever elusive CL

And now Ramsey who despite his inconsistency can be a top performer on his day, they might even sell 2 years into his contract and make some nice profit

Absolute top club

jasongms

“and we also fucked our managerial appointment”

Says the fool that wanted Arteta of all people, you really should have a word.

Receding Hairline

What are people thinking on Yannick?

Better than everything we have attacking wise bar our two strikers. He is direct and very skillful ,and he is just 24.

I don’t get how some love this Ismaila Sarr guy and somehow turn up their nose at Yannic Carrasco, boy was doing bits at Athleti before his strange move to China.

raptora

With you, Pedro.
Player capable of 10/10 performance in a game, followed by 4-5 games on a 6/10. Upgrade on Iwobi, no doubt lol. If it’s a 20m signing and a salary up to 150k could be worth a punt. Anything above that, thanks but no thanks.

Cesc Appeal

Pedro In depends on the fee and wages. If it is true he is willing to take a pay cut to play at Arsenal and the fee is not too bad I wouldn’t mind. He was a good player and has the potential to be very good for us. It would mean we actually have a winger which is a start as well. If the fee is reasonable there’s also a chance we sell him on for profit if he doesn’t quite work out to an Everton type club or somewhere abroad. Interesting to see some people talking about us… Read more »

Victorious

Receding
So how do you explain Emery’s position on our transfers, surely dont hold the belief he doesn’t have a say? or how much influence do you think he wields?

Receding Hairline

Sorry i meant to name drop Nicolas Pepe not Sarr ..although i think both are on the same boat

TR7

Well, I am not going to miss Ramsey even one bit.

He is too slow, takes too many touches, does not have the creativity and vision to play CAM , does not have the ability to play through the lines to be a long term CM option either and misses a lot of games due to injuries. Jack of all trade but master of none. Yes, he does not hide and he can score odd goals but overall not good enough.

Champagne charlie

Pedro

Looks like a pretty boy cunt that’s interested in hair gel, earrings and being a star vs being the best player he can be.

That’s the strength of an image. Only hope that’s wildly inaccurate and unfair on him, but he doesn’t scream Torreira as far as humility goes.

As a player I’m not sure he’s anymore than a Taraabt or Belhanda type of player. All the talent but does it when he wants.

Victorious

Don’t see us bringing in Suarez and carrasco in this window

Suarez is more likely because he’s versatile and can dovetail in between midfield and wing

Carrasco is a hit and miss type of player, best leave the powder dry for a Pepe, Lozano or Under in the summer

Champagne charlie

“I don’t get how some love this Ismaila Sarr guy and somehow turn up their nose at Yannic Carrasco”…………”boy was doing bits at Athleti before his strange move to China.”

Well yea, that would do it. Elite mentality not something you’d say about him

Receding Hairline

“So how do you explain Emery’s position on our transfers, surely dont hold the belief he doesn’t have a say? or how much influence do you think he wields?”

Same power he had at Sevilla, PSG and Valencia ..very little. He is a coach and has always been a coach who works with what’s available while telling those responsible profiles of certain players he may fancy, I thought this structure has been discussed to death here

Cesc Appeal

Pedro If it happens I think that’s how it will go. Suarez will be a loan until the summer where we will likely have to pay more money for him, if we wanted to pay £14 Million we will have to pay £20 Million to get Barcelona to agree. Carrasco would likely be bought then if the fee was reasonable. It depends as to exactly why the club are selling. Is it just because he wants to go? It because of money for the club? Is a combination of both? If they don’t really want to let him go they… Read more »

TR7

Estadio Deportivo can exclusively confirm that #AFC have made a formal contract offer for Ever Banega: 3yrs with an optional 4th; £7m PA in wages. Player is considering the proposal which took him by surprise as it meets his ‘impossible’ demands.

Source -Twitter

Paulinho

Carrasco was always used off the bench to great effect for Atletico – scoring goals, making things happen etc – but whenever he started he was nowhere near as influential, so not sure where I stand on him. Great quality in short bursts.

Receding Hairline

I think a year in China has led to people forgetting just how good Carrasco was for Athleti, he only has himself to blame for that

This Nicolas Pepe guy really has Arsenal fans on strings…..

Is Under a winger Victorious or are u just name dropping from the tabloids??

Pierre

So which of saurez, carrasco or Banega are defenders….

Receding Hairline

Estadio Deportivo can exclusively confirm that #AFC have made a formal contract offer for Ever Banega: 3yrs with an optional 4th; £7m PA in wages. Player is considering the proposal which took him by surprise as it meets his ‘impossible’ demands. NO NO NO NO First off no Banega Secondly three years with an option for a 4th for a 30 year old?? Nope not for me He is clearly a player the coach seems to fancy but the coach himself will have a year left on his own deal next season and there is no guarantee he is getting… Read more »

englandsbest

Back then, there was never a need for Kroenke to invest money in Arsenal. Nor was there a need for him to use £30m pa of Club revenue to pay off Stadium debt. With the result that we stopped winning major titles, which in itself would have added much more revenue. Yes, we all know Wenger lost his marbles, that Gazidis was an empty-minded PR man. And that Kroenke was dopey to keep them on. The myth is that because Stan is a multi-billionaire, he must have a top-notch brain. Any guy with a grain of common-sense would never have… Read more »

Cesc Appeal

TR7 That would be an Emery signing. That is Emery’s player. Interesting as that should be the end for Ozil I would think unless we’re going to have a £350 000 bench player? You would imagine the team will be Xhaka, Torreria, Banega then Suarez, Aubameyang/Lacazette, Iwobi/Aubameyang. This is Arsenal backing Emery in this window, Banega and Suarez are his picks, he’s probably said I can get 4th but I need my players and this is them thinking well, £30-40 Million over January and the summer for a real run at 4th, why not? If we get UCL this year… Read more »

raptora

If we give 150k salary to Banega, I’m literally going to make a hole in the wall with my fist. Please, let this be fake. Anything above 80k would be a stretch for a 31 yo in 4 months, that was never a top talent or anything. Fk me. This sounds so bad.

Champagne charlie

Pedro I’m unconvinced by him, mentality is foremost in my mind with players and red flags are all over his. Talent means nothing without application and desire. James Milner or Balotelli? Says it all. Carrasco isn’t in good shape, he’s football fit, just like Ozil. I can only hope if he joins that the environment at Arsenal brings it out of him. But not a player I’d go near before a dozen others. Fekir, Zaha, Pepe, Depay, Thauvin are the profile of player we should look at for me, explosive or powerful players with end product. Carrasco is cute feet… Read more »

Negation

1.) I wouldn’t call starting in October a half season, and either way, he finished EIGHTH. And as for reaching the final of the league cup, first of all HAHAHAHA, and secondly, Emery hasn’t hit the end of the season yet – he might win the Europa. And I think I can see what Emery is trying to do, it might not be original, but so what? And the narrative that Spurs had nothing is untrue. Spurs had a stable structure when he arrived and he bought more (Son,Alderweireld, Sissoko, etc) . Since Eriksen and Vertonghen, Spurs have always bought… Read more »

Negation

Sorry, last message was addressed to Pedro

Receding Hairline

Yea Emery has completed a full season after six months and being 3 points off fourth ( We have been told a top four finish is a pipe dream)

If progress is immediate then surely after taking over in October and finishing 8th, and we are measuring him by the same metric we seem to be doing Emery, a six month period to work wonders in a midst of an injury crises or you are out, then Klopp should have been sacked.

Guns of Hackney

Arsenal are snuffling around the same players Celtic are.

Champagne charlie

Receding doing his Emery defensive gymnastics as per any other day ending in Y.

Measuring half season results is always a surefire way of doing it. By that logic why judge Emery for losing 5-1 to Liverpool, we were 1-0 up at one point so you’re all just haters.

Emiratesstroller

Gambon Two points. 1. If we qualify for Champions League which is at moment unlikely then we may need to invest more heavily in summer transfer market. The owner will then need to make a decision whether a] to incur financial loss and b] to dip into current bank balance which at end of May 2017 was about £120 million which is last accounts published. 2. My guess is that Arsenal’s net spend is about £100 million and anything north of that figure is dependent on sales. It does not mean that the club will spend that figure. What I… Read more »

Negation

“Measuring half season results is always a surefire way of doing it. By that logic why judge Emery for losing 5-1 to Liverpool, we were 1-0 up at one point so you’re all just haters”

?????

gambon

Carrasco is an interesting one. Not elite, and I think anyone that goes to China at 23 has serious motivation issues. That said, he has real talent. His attacking numbers have always been good, something like 7.5 combines shots, key passes and dribbles per game, which is Mane/Salah levels. If you can get that for £20m then you have to take the risk, because market value for that level of production is £60m+ My personal thoughts are that his agent is trying to generate interest. I also think he has the potential to bomb. Even if he does we’d get… Read more »

Receding Hairline

Measuring half season results is always a surefire way of doing it. By that logic why judge Emery for losing 5-1 to Liverpool, we were 1-0 up at one point so you’re all just haters. Everton 4- Man City 0 15th January 2017 ( Mind you Everton were not topping the league nor having a season of their lives at this point) Southampton 6- Liverpool 1 in Klopps first season ( Southampton were not topping the table at this point) Yea a 5-1 loss to probably the best team in the country deserves a firing squad You are full of… Read more »

TR7

Carrasco over Banega and Denis Suarez for me for he has a high ceiling. We do not need any more steady players , we have plenty of them already.

raptora

BiG and Dissenter,

“The Wales international will undergo a medical with Juventus on Sunday, and the deal is expected to be finalised after their Italian Super Cup game against AC Milan next Wednesday.”

According to reports. He’ll have the contract signed up in a week. So he could play like he’s always played for us, giving his all, not afraid that an injury will ruin his future.

Marko

One thing I will say in Carrasco’s defence is he loves to take on players and beat a man and that’s something we’re severely lacking. But in saying all that Lozano and Pepe are my preference signings… but we can’t get them in this January so it begs the question do we wait until the summer when primary targets will be available and really risk our top 4 chances or do we bring in someone available this month? Keep in mind the squad as is right now isn’t making top 4

China1

Dissenter in fairness we already modernized our crest about 15 years ago. The crest used to be more classical and ornate before swapping to this simplified version

I used to hate the current version but I’ve cone to accept it.

I like juve’s new one a lot tho

gambon

People really missing the point with regard Klopp.

He started in October.

He had no pre-season, which means no ability to work on players physical abilities.

He had no transfer window, which meant he had a squad that was not of his choosing.

Emery had a full pre-season, he brought in 5 new players.

Emery is where Klopp was in his second season.

The fact that he hasnt delivered any improvement in performance is worrying.

China1

Also banega on high wages NO THANKS

He was never elite. If you’re buying less than elite in his fucking 30s at least do us the courtesy of putting him on sub80k wages. This deal has the same stench as mikki

gambon

Emery has said in his press conference that we have no money for players.

Just loan deals.

Really dont like the idea of committing some of our summer funds on Suarez or Carrasco before we’ve even got there.

Receding Hairline

Emery is where Klopp was in his second season.

In your opinion

raptora

gambon: “Emery is where Klopp was in his second season.”

That’s an overstatement. Klopp had over 40 official games with the squad to make decisions based on first hand input. As well as get the experience of managing in the EPL, the Winter period etc. It’s nowhere the same.

Leftsidesanch

if loan deals we should just remain as is until the summer

Marko

Receding doing his Emery defensive gymnastics as per any other day ending in Y. Rich coming from you a person utterly allergic to any form of Wenger criticism ready to jump in at a moment’s notice to defend and divert. Who’s fault is it we don’t have any players good enough to fetch a huge fee for in this ridiculous market? Of course Stan. Maybe if he signed Hazard instead of Gervinho or signed young talent with bright futures instead of Bischoff or Einsfeld or Wellington Silva we might have been more active. I mean how could he not sell… Read more »

Freddie Ljungberg

Emery:

“We can only loan players.

“The club is working. The club is telling me each moment that different situations can happen for recruitment.

“But at the moment I don’t have new news on that.

“I don’t know now his [Suarez’s] situation. But we can only sign on a loan and I know the club is working for the possibility of players who can help us with this condition.”

Holy shit we’re not a serious club anymore.

There’s no excuse for having a smaller budget than newly promoted teams, it’s a disgrace really. No top 4 this season then.

gambon

Freddie

We dont have a budget smaller than promoted teams.

Fulham spent £100m, and when they go down they will sell most of them players.

They gambled and failed.

Our net spend is sustainable.

Marko

He had no transfer window, which meant he had a squad that was not of his choosing. To be fair Klopp inherited a good squad poorly managed. He inherited Firmino and Coutinho. It also took him how many windows before he addressed problem areas like LB and CB? On his 3rd window before he brought in Robertson and his 4th before they brought in VVD but to be fair it should have been his 3rd. Point is he didn’t address the Liverpool defence in one window. In his second window he brought in Karius, Klaven and Matip… sounds very Emery… Read more »

TR7

‘“I don’t know now his [Suarez’s] situation. But we can only sign on a loan and I know the club is working for the possibility of players who can help us with this condition.”

My assertion that we will have close to 25-30M to spend in summer doesn’t quite look to be off the mark.

Marko

Also a loan for Denis Suarez is a smart move by us. He’s not playing at Barcelona and you’d have to have a slight worry about his ability to play over here. It makes sense.

Graham62

Freddie L

That’s what happens when you have incompetence ruling the roost.

We were ” a serious club” but so many regressive years will take it’s toll.

Why are people surprised?

Freddie Ljungberg

I know it’s because of mismanagement and our wage bill is fucked bit this is depressing shit. So much to fix in the squad both in and outgoings but it seems we’re just standing still.

Had a chance to do much more in the summer and should be doing more now to try and reach top 4, not really a gamble when we know we will have the money to cover it in the summer.

raptora

Pretty disappointed in the Arsenal decision to let Ramsey go. Fk me, he looked like the player that Emery would die to have in his team. Hardworking, never shies, always running, always pressing, good vision, dangerous in attack, leadership skills. Since 2017/18 till today he has 14 assists, five more than anyone else in our team in that period. If it’s Emery’s decision to let him go, then I seriously question wtf is Emery’s plan?! If we basically change Ramsey with Banega it would be an absolute farce. Would make you wonder why Juventus don’t go for Banega instead?! Probably… Read more »

Marko

Plus you gotta factor in inflated fees in January. Doesnt mean we’re broke.

gambon

“My assertion that we will have close to 25-30M to spend in summer doesn’t quite look to be off the mark.”

Its going to be way way way off the mark.

We spent £65m net last summer,

This summer we have vastly increased revenues:

– £30m pa extra from Puma
– £13m pa extra from Emirates
– £10m extra from Visit Rwanda
– £5m extra from 1000 new Club Level seats
– New TV revenues, including a greater share for the big clubs

Emiratesstroller

From my perspective recruitment at Arsenal in offensive department is dependent on formation. Are we playing for example 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 as many of our competitors do. Emery has also experimented with 3 CBs at back. One thing I am fairly sure is that Emery will select in midfield in his starting line-up Torreira and Xhaka with Guendouzi covering for them. Where there remains uncertainty is up front is who will recruit for next season in attacking/central midfield and on wing. My instinct tells me that Emery will look for a Ramsey type of player, but one who is more… Read more »

Receding Hairline

To be fair Klopp inherited a good squad poorly managed. He inherited Firmino and Coutinho. It also took him how many windows before he addressed problem areas like LB and CB? On his 3rd window before he brought in Robertson and his 4th before they brought in VVD but to be fair it should have been his 3rd. Point is he didn’t address the Liverpool defence in one window. In his second window he brought in Karius, Klaven and Matip… sounds very Emery like that. No Marko, it is common knowledge Klopp inherited a squad fighting relegation while Emery inherited… Read more »

Jamie

Paulinho – “Jamie – How he does over there is a completely different matter to the point that was being argued up until this point, dependent on various factors(injuries etc), so you wouldn’t be able to rub my nose in anything anyway.If his game was a fraught with limitations as you’re still claiming, one would wonder why Juve aren’t aware of it, and why they’ve made second highest earner on a five year contract……” Disingenuous. How he does at Juve is exactly the argument. You think he’s ‘top tier’ and feel vindicated that a big club has moved for him,… Read more »

Marko

not really a gamble when we know we will have the money to cover it in the summer. True. But we may be looking at a player in the summer and if we tried to sign him now we either can’t or are unwilling to spend more to bring him in. It’s smart. I mean I want Pepe and Lozano to be signed but neither player wants to leave in January and Lille are fighting for Champions League football while PSV are fighting for the league title with Ajax so it’s a no go. Do you then settle for someone… Read more »

gambon

Not sure we will sign a CB now.

We have Mustafi, Sokratis, Koscielny and Mavropanos fit now. Monreal has also done well there in a 3 man defence.

Theres no way we’re getting a good CB on loan.

Marko

Gambon I’m thinking maybe Benatia and that’s it. I don’t think anyone trusts Koscielny even a little bit plus he’s broken

Cesc Appeal

In terms of the defence I think to the end of the season it is going to that Emery gives Mavropanos a chance to shine alongside Sokratis.

Wenger and Gazidis really have left this club in a bad state. Kroenke is to blame in all this for being a pro-Wenger fan and not insisting upon people like Mislintat and Sanllehi years ago. But then Wenger always threatened to walk or become actively disruptive if anyone threatened his power.

The damage he has done.

Graham62

Freddie

We all know and understand that Emery will be judged by what happens on the pitch. The problem is, 80% of our problems have built up, over the past few seasons, off the pitch.

When every single facet of the clubs operation has been mismanaged, we should not be surprised by what has materialized.

If it was all down to just sorting out our on pitch frailties, it would have been far more straightforward.

Marko

No no CA Stan is to blame for the player recruitment and all our ills the buck starts and stops at him.

bennydevito

What a fucking state we’re in. Genuinely a bit perplexed and discombobulated as to how we’ve got to this point.

Where’s the fucking money?

What about our new kit deals, sponsorship, tv money etc?

My only hope is that Emery and the director of football are planning a massive cull and keeping our powder dry for the summer.

Marko

My only hope is that Emery and the director of football are planning a massive cull and keeping our powder dry for the summer.

That’s what I’m thinking but that hardly helps us this month or for the rest of the season

gambon

benny

The clubs financial year runs June 1st to May 31st. We spent £70m in the summer, and that was our budget.

We couldve held back £20m, but that would mean we wouldnt have Leno or Sokratis.

In the summer we are in a new financial year, and new budgets.

If we had Spurs wage bill, we would have had £140m to spend in the summer.

Guns of sf

Just woke up and reading we can only use loans in Jan. Well shit

A joke and travesty of management
I hate gazidis and wenger -the most incompetent liars

I’m not holding out for anyone coming in now that we have announced to the world we basically are broke

David Smith

Whether Kroenke messed up, or was completely taken in by a mans reputation, both, or something else,I am sure he realises he got a few things wrong, hence putting Josh in a more influential,hands on role and bringing in new execs who are hopefully a bit more clued up than those who came before them. I doubt if sacking Wenger was a decision Stan made lightly, we can all speculate as to what finally led him to do just that, most would say money, I sincerely hope there were other reasons. Perhaps being optimistic,but hoping some very hard lessons learned… Read more »

gambon

To be fair, we’re about to be 22 games into a 38 game season.

Almost any signing isnt going to make a huge difference now.

I’d rather we spend our budget in the summer anyway. If youre entering the january window it means you fucked up in the summer.

Receding Hairline

That’s what I’m thinking but that hardly helps us this month or for the rest of the season Marko the defensive injury and suspensions did not really help us at a crucial stage this season…..yes we were destroyed at Liverpool after collectively shitting our pants both players and manager..but if Mustafi played at St Mary’s i doubt we lose that game, he is actually a competent defender in the air. We lost Bellerin at a pretty bad time too and one of our most dependable defenders Monreal has not played much this season. I think if we can keep the… Read more »

Guns of sf

No wonder we holding onto Aaron
We can not afford anyone in Jan
Not even a little fee for him helps us financially
What a fucked up state of affairs
Mavro protect that groin and save us!

Freddie Ljungberg

Graham62

I’m not judging Emery for any of this, it’s all inherited from the previous regime and I don’t think any amount of coaching is going to improve this bunch much.

Think we blew it in the summer by not getting rid of Ramsey and Welbeck and maybe a few more and reinvest. Plenty of people here against that approach in the summer, not unexpectedly mostly the same people now criticizing Emery the most.

Would be a miracle if we get top 4 with the 6th best squad .

raptora

Holy shit, the Suarez dude is not even a squad player for Barcelona. Has played 4 games this season, 2 in La Liga, 2 in the UCL, with 41 mins played in TOTAL.

In 29 games or so that Barcelona have played so far, he’s managed to participate in a total of 1.5% of it. No injuries in the last 4 months either. Guy’s not even considered alive…

Graham62

This is why, ladies and gentlemen, Arsene Wenger’s legacy will never be seen in a positive light.

Ten years of progress and glory, followed by 12 years of slow and painful decline.

Marko

Hence the loan rap. Hence the loan with option to buy instead of the obligation to buy Barcelona want

Receding Hairline

We can only sign players on loan after spending only 70m in the summer

And this is the situation certain posters champion we drop Arteta in, Arteta whose apprenticeship taught him you can spend 200m on defenders if the ones you have are not working. You can drop 60m on an additional winger just to feel secure.

While we are at it I am yet to hear any criticisms of Pep for spending 60m on Mahrez when a more pressing need was who replaces Fernandinho

Leedsgunner
Guns of sf

We r broke

Paulinho

Jamie – No, not really. You’re the one being disingenuous; you’ve argued Ramsey wasn’t good enough to attract the likes of Juve, and now you’ve been proven completely wrong, you’re now saying he will fail there, with the same subjective opinion that failed you first time around.

You’ve happily admitted to noshing on humble pie for a reason.

bennydevito

It makes it even more infuriating that we could have sold Sanchez for £60m to City but then Wenger came out and said it’s better to let their contracts run down!!

Like what the actual fuck??

We then make it even worse by tieing Ozil down to a ridiculous absorbitant contract whilst letting Ramsay go for squat.

Good grief Penfold!!