Ramsey deal off? I have my doubts

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Well, let’s crack into the Brentford game. Arsenal took down their preseason foes with a fairly simple 3-1 victory. I think we saw some great play, it’s great to see the reserve team playing hard for the manager. There was style on display, some lovely goals and obviously, a goal for Brentford.

Danny Welbeck deserves special praise. His header was early on, he was clinical and used his height and power perfectly. His second goal was more about the team, it was #Emeryball from start to finish. The ball began from Leno and ended up the other end of the pitch with Danny there to sweep the ball home. A really classy number.

Old Danny is untapped potential. He has it all, power, pace, height, hardwork, and a knack for getting in the right positions. He’s just not very clinical. If there’s a way to fluff your lines, you can bet Danny’s done it. Hopefully, at the end of the season, we’ll see who he really can be as a striker. Hopefully, he becomes the lethal weapon we’d love him to be.

The final goal came from Lacazette bullying 4 defenders before smashing a low shot past the Brentford keeper.

A great start to a competition Wenger never managed to win. Extra impetus to make something happen this season.

In other news, John Cross put it all on the line saying Arsenal have withdrawn their contract off for Ramsey and he’ll be leaving next summer.

Now, the way the article reads is it’s the clubs choice.

For me, Arsenal are a business. We need to look out for the future. The notion that Ramsey shut off contract talks forever in September seems a touch odd. Basic client strategy would say that if he has no intention of signing, at least string the club along so they don’t drop you for the season.

Emery cannot afford to have an uncommitted player as his number 10 for 8 months. It wouldn’t make sense. We saw exactly what happened last season. Sanchez and Ozil were ok before Christmas, then it all went to shit the back half of the season. The rumours, the lack of commitment in games, the rumblings behind the scenes. Picture yourself on an 8 month notice period, do you think you’d be going hard for a club y0u’re bombing off? Or do you think you’d be protecting your ability to sign a pre-contract with Juve in January?

If, and it’s a big if… Ramsey has told the club it’s 0ver. Then we have to move to sell him in January. Save money on his contract, recoup a fee and save on the ball ache of carrying a passenger.

I’d been told in the summer from my best source that the agent of Ramsey was pushing for Ozil money.

The club made this position even worse when the new manager said he wanted to the build the team around the Welshman. You give away all you leverage when you position the player as integral.

The worst move Ivan Gazidis made last year was sanctioning the extension of Mesut Ozil. We are paying £350k a week to a player the whole of Europe passed on last year. A player who still looks very checked out. A player who has been relegated to a position he doesn’t want to play. Now a player, who let’s be honest, is far more valuable to the Emery system, is likely to leave because we can’t pay him that.

… but we’ll see. Raul and Sven are stupid. I can’t believe there’s not a plan to deal with this. I’d be very surprised if we lose him on a free.

Anyway, that’s all I’ve got today. Listen to the podcast.

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Wenker-wanger

Cc. Spot on with the rvp assessment. I would have been of the same attitude to rvp if I was desperate for a trophy. Let’s not forget the Birmingham cup final atrocity……he must’ve looked around and thought what the hell am I doing here and with that clueless manager and unambitious owner?????

Pierre

To be honest ,I have questioned the no.10 role that Emery is asking Ramsey to play and Smith -rowe v Brentford…the role doesn’t have any positives for me only negatives.

N5

@gonsterous. No I agree with you. I agree both should be gone too. I just feel that JW left on better terms than what is going to be the outcome with AR.

Cesc Appeal

The club just need to make sure this is the beginning of a balancing of the squad and a slow build with an actual system in mind because right now we have too many players who sit on top of each other and/or are painfully one dimensional.

Dissenter

Why do:people keep writing that “Ramsey should be sold in January”.
Why would he allow Arsenal to “sell him” when he’s so close to a bigger pay day?
The player has ALL the power at this point.
The only thing Arsenal can do now is freeze him out to set an example.

Lightening doesn’t strike the same place twice
We won’t have another sucker club to bail us out like United did for Sanchez..

Bamford10

Receding

I’ve never denied that Xhaka has a few positives — plays the simple pass, for example— but he doesn’t have enough positives, has too many negatives and simply isn’t a top tier quality of player.

Whatever his flaws, Ramsey is.

un na naai

Tony D

Glad you like my stuff

Uwot?

“ Hollywood “ leaving is no great loss.lets be honest here.a squad player at best & a debatable” one season wonder”.as pointed out earlier.in the same catorgorie as walnut &,wilshere.apparently the word on the street was that he was always gazidis ble eyed boy but now that the snake oil salesman is off the grAvy train has come to a halt with Raul in control.hence the deal off the table….

Bamford10

A top tier of quality player, that is.

un na naai

I’ve been saying for a good 3 seasons that Ramsey and ozil were our biggest issues in the side. They are tacked on like tits on a porn star. They do not suit arsenal in anyway and the entire team needs to be built to accommodate either or both. Aubameyang plays better when Ramsey isn’t on the field too as they take up the same positions. He just gets in the way and more often than not fluffs his lines only to create a gaping hole in the middle of the field Let him go to Manchester or Barcelona See… Read more »

Receding Hairline

Ramsey is top tier quality Wow Besides Paulinho i wonder how many people will agree with you on this . Hope you know that by Top tier you mean he is world class and can play for Bayern, Barca, Madrid, Can walk into the PSG, Man City squads …that’s top tier quality Is that what you are saying Bamford..That Ramsey can do all of the above? Because most pundits don’t think he can, the chatter online is that he will do well for Everton , Leicester and the likes ..but i know your footballing knowledge is several steps ahead of… Read more »

Bamford10

Pierre

Right, but you’re so obsessed with Ramsey’s negatives that you don’t see the positives.

How about his one-touch return pass to Lacazette on Wednesday night? That was top class. He had another really nice touch as well, but I’m blanking on it at the moment.

I would never deny Ramsey’s failings or his inconsistency — ironically, I was one of his most vocal critics back when most only sang his praises — but he is also capable of a level of quality that few of our others players are.

un na naai

Dissenter

Then let him rot on the bench or even the reserves
If he forces us to pay his wages then why should he be played?
These prima donnas have been pandered to for far too long.
And ozil has better buck his ideas up too. None of that race card bullshit or gladly go to Turkey or China. I’d actually pay half his wage. At least that frees up £175k per week for a player that applies himself

Bamford10

Receding

I said in “the top tier of quality” for a reason; I did not say “world class” or “could walk into this or that side” or any of the other things you’ve said. Deal with the claims people actually make, please.

Dissenter

Someone needs to get this TonyD to tune down the volume of his narcissism.
Every post he puts up here is laced with kindergarten level pretentiousness .

It’s so obvious he’s the most unfulfilled person on legrove.
Do we really have to know some of the nonsense he puts up here.

un na naai

Bamford

Ramsey is NOT top tier
Scholes was top tier. Gerard. Lampard. Vieira. Hargreaves was a better midfielder than Ramsey. Wilshere was better too, obviously….

Ramsey isn’t even a fucking midfielder anyway. He’s just a “late runner” and nothing more. Every other facet of his game is inadequate.

China

Danny great post

The 120+m we’ve spunked up the wall is unbelievable for a club talking about self sustaining models. Absolute insanity

Every club makes mistakes in the transfer market etc but we’ve been pissing money away like it’s nobodies business

Only clubs like Utd and City and throw this kind of money around without consequences. It’s absolutely shocking that we’ve been so poorly run

un na naai

Dissenter

The man has done well. Don’t be peanut butter and jealous. Typical socialist. Can’t increase your own lot so let’s penalise those who have done well.

Leedsgunner

I wonder if this has come out now via Ramsey’s agent… in order to portray Aaron as some undeserving victim.

If Ramsey thinks there’s going to be some seismic groundswell of support for him from the fans, I think he’s going to have a very rude reality check.

Ramsey’s greatest asset at the club was his professionalism consistency and work ethic. He’s now completely sabotaging that rep for money.

I think most fans are indifferent whether he leaves or not.

Receding Hairline

Bamford

It might serve if you stopped talking in riddles and communicated more clearly and effectively like an academic

Top tier…most important…elite , prestigious. If we take that literally it means in your opinion Ramsey belongs in the top shelf, is one of the elite midfielders in World football….this isn’t even remotely through as midfield has been one of our weakest areas and he has been a constant in it

un na naai

Bamford you dumb mug. World class is the top tier fool. Aren’t you meant to be an English teacher?

China

Can’t agree that Ramsey is top tier

He’s had one awesome season dude. Guy is closer to 30 than 20. Times up for him to become a top tier player

Receding Hairline

*remotely true as midfield has been one of our weakest spots

un na naai

Receding

The term top tier implies that there are no tiers above. It’s the very pinnacle.

Bamford
What’s at the top of a mountain? The top. The summit. The pinnacle. The peak. It’s the very top tier. You can’t get any higher than the top can you?
Hence the word TOP dumb dumb.

Pierre

Bamford
“How about his one-touch return pass to Lacazette on Wednesday night? That was top class. He had another really nice touch as well, but I’m blanking on it at the moment.”

personally, I would have liked to see Ramsey come on with 10/15 to go and help the midfield and see the game out as we only had a narrow lead and looked anything but comfortable.

If it was the manager’s instructions for him to play up with Lacazette so late in the game then Emery is no different to Wenger in game management.

Bamford10

I would love it if, in spite of everything, Ramsey now goes on a run of great performances. For the remainder of the season in fact. Becomes crucial to whatever success we have — indeed plays at a level that allows us to achieve more success than we would have without him. He’s definitely capable of this; he just needs to get his head right, get his decision-making right.

The above would be great on two levels: one, it would be good for Arsenal; two, it would be a lot of fun to see the Ramsey haters eat crow.

Dissenter

Unai
You’re making my point and FYI, I’m no socialist.
You have no idea what I make or what I’m worth….and that’s the way it’s supposed to be.
There’s something fundamentally broken about a guy who keeps dropping the same showy lines over and over again

“Can’t increas your own lot”
Jeeeez, you’re one strange dude. Only insecure people get starry eyed by praise from tonyD.
Are you hoping he”ll drop some bread crumbs your way? Did you ejaculate when you read his praise of you?

Paulinho

Leeds – Both Andy Townsend and Ian Wright said they would exactly the same thing if put in Ramsey’s situation; in terms of asking for what he is in light of Ozil’s contract. So he is not sabotaging anything really, only in the eyes of those who have always had an issue with him. The Ozil contract has turned out to be disaster alot of us thought it would be. Not only a complete cretin of a footballer, but the ramification in terms of what other players are asking for is going to be a big problem until he is… Read more »

China

I’d be fascinated to know what emery really thinks of our squad

Does he think Ramsey is that good or is he concerned that he could be a fan favourite and undermine him/the dressing room like Neymar or whatever. Does he think Ramsey is suitable for his team or is he giving him lip service for the reasons above?

We’ll never know the truth

Paulinho

Although we are no the only club with issues in that regard. A lot of Barca fans online are furious at the new contract for cripple Busquets.

Bamford10

Un na

Wow, mate, way to demonstrate how simplistic your thinking is. A “tier” is a level; not everyone within a given tier or level is of equal quality. A golfer can be a “top tier” talent without being equal to 1, 2 or 3. Same with tennis, with anything.

I’m saying that in form he’s a top-33-in-the-world player. That’s all. Not world class, not top XI, not top XXII, not even top XXXIII when not in form. But top XXXIII when he is in form, and this is something a player like Xhaka is not.

un na naai

Dissenter

I ejaculated twice. Into an empty milk bottle. Blam!!!

I just don’t like to see bitter and twisted lefties hate on someone for doing well in life. As a successful person I bristle at such notions. Normally from those if a lower socioeconomic background. Occupy wall street all you want dissenter. Criticize those who have done well all you want too, just expect to take flack for it when I see it.

Champagne Charlie

Banford Giving Xhaka backhanded compliments like saying he can “play a simple pass” and such isn’t evidence of your balanced views towards players – literally the opposite. Now you’re chatting about Ramsey being top tier but not world class!?? So the word “top” has alternative meaning does it? Finally the idea you’d like to see “Ramsey haters eat crow”, is plain hilarious. What part of him being here a decade with bang average return, 400 games missed in 5 years (thanks N5), and no clear position in the team do you think gets abolished if he drops a mega season?… Read more »

China

No doubt Paulinho tho Barca were almost invincible last year so their fans should chill a bit haha

Dissenter

Paulinho
I’m not surprised you don’t have the awareness to not mention Ramsey and Busquets in the same breath.

Busquets featured prominently in a Spanish National team that’s won the WC and Euros
He’s won tonnes of major trophies as a Barca starter.
Yet you’re ridiculing him while defending Ramsey?

Pierre

Ramsey leaving or being relegated to the reserves would allow smith-rowe to have the chance to show us if he has what it takes.

Receding Hairline

I’m saying that in form he’s a top-33-in-the-world player.

Excuse me??

Am i missing something? Why the number 33??

un na naai

Bamford

Bla bla bla bla

You just said Ramsey is top tier but not then backtracked and said that he is not world class.

Which would then make world class the tier above Ramsey doooopid

Golly gosh gosh, I’ve encountered some turnips in my time but you sir are top tier. There are no other tiers above YOU in this catergory bam bam. You are the Lionel Messi, Muhammad Ali of turnipville. The GOAT

un na naai

Excuse me?? Am i missing something? Why the number 33??

Receding

Either another random nonsensical bamford thought or he’s trying to look like he’s considered something other than being offended.

Dissenter

Unai I’m always dumbstruck by your tendency to conflate issues and recourse to well rehearsed lingos . It’s alwys a tirade about lefties, socialist, communists blah blah blah.. WTF is wrong with you? No one is ridiculing TonyD for his “success”. If it’s true it’s that successful, then good for him. The simple point I’m making is he doesn’t need to keep regaling us with the same silly tales of success when there are many people here who are better off than him but have the class to not act like pretensions pricks. I hope this helps you. Why don’t… Read more »

Cesc Appeal

What was Emery and Rabiot’s relationship like? I found some comments from Rabiot praising Emery’s communication with him at PSG and those comments in the summer from Emery talking about Rabiot still having a lot more to give. Just wonder if that could be a special way to getting Rabiot for us that no one else has. Especially if we look like securing UCL football. If we managed to land Rabiot on a free that would be an absolute gift, essentially a £40 Million player for nothing allowing us to then buy another CM and try to get rid of… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

Receding/ Un na

He’s backtracking and looking to redefine “top tier”, it’s standard stuff from him.

Top tier to anyone is best in their position, Ramsey doesn’t have a position firstly, and secondly he’s not among the best in whatever one you care to offer up.

un na naai

And he’s not top 33 either.

Let’s see everyone’s top 33 players in the world and see how many find a spot for Ramsey in there.

Harry Kane isn’t but Ramsey is?? Hahahaha
Heard it all now turnip.

Redtruth

Ramsey’s level is a Wolves or Leicester.

Bamford10

Jesus Christ. Pedro really should have some kind of screener.

Dissenter

Some people believe that “world class” ought to be reserved for a saintly few and use worlds like “international class” or “elite” for players that stand out but aren’t in the top most class.
I’m not sure if that’s what Bamford is alluding to, but it’s out there.

Receding Hairline

He’s backtracking and looking to redefine “top tier”, it’s standard stuff from him.

Yes standard stuff and pretty shameless in truth, this man should not be entrusted with the education of the young.

Harry Kane isn’t but Ramsey is?? Hahahaha

That was actually my next move to trap him, the way he moves the goal posts around to suit his agenda is quite shameless

Bamford10

Un na

“You just said Ramsey is top tier but not then backtracked and said that he is not world class.”

Remind me of where it is written that “top tier” and “world class” are identical in meaning?

un na naai

Dissenter.

And who exactly is the arbitrator of what constitutes origami thinking? You? I do consider it original to not be offended at such things.

Seems to me that the masses can’t stand to a self made man anymore. Boy done good and all that.
If he feels smug enough to drop it into conversation from time to time then so what? Won’t put another dollar in your pocket to waste your time on it will it?

Bamford10

Some simple arithmetic for our Friday morning:

11 x 3 = 33

Receding Hairline

Dissenter is Ramsey elite??

un na naai

Bam ford

You said that world class is considered higher on the bam-ometer than top tier. I never said they were the same thing. I’d even go so far as to say that world class is could be considered below top tier as Ronaldo and Messi are top tier but there are world class players in the distinction below.

Where did I say they were the same thing? You can’t even comprehend our own drivel turnip so how is anyone else meant to?

Receding Hairline

11 x 3 = 33

Still does not make any sense. Why Pick three starting elevens? Why stop at three?? In what position will Ramsey play in even if we pick three different starting elevens?

un na naai

Bam ford

So you’re saying that Ramsay would be selected in one of the top 3 midfields in the world? Fuck me.

Keep digging son, we can sill see ya. Haha

Paulinho

Dissenter – Comparing Busquets to Ozil.

Two walking corpses on the football pitch living off inflated undeserved reputations.

un na naai

Hahahaah

I bet turnip is incandescent with rage

Keep squirming Bamford. You won’t wriggle out of this one

un na naai

Dissenter

Original thinking not origami. Poxy spellcheck

Redtruth

Ramsey had scored 10 league goals prior to his injury in December 2013-14 season.
1 goal against Liverpool and 9 goals against teams struggling to stay up.

Dissenter

Receding
You must know by now that I’m not Ramsey fan.
Paulinho will agree with tha5nbecause we’ve exchanged harsh words regarding this over time.
I don’t rate him. He’s not elite. He just hasn’t a tendency to get made for TV moments. He’s plays for only himself and is not interested in the formative process of a move, all he wants to do his finish it.
He’s the epitome of the Hollywood player.

Bamford10

Dissenter Of course all of those terms mean something different. That’s not “out there”; that’s common sense. And what any one person means by those terms is “designatory,” i.e., that person has to designate what he means by the term. “World class” is a good example of such a term; different people mean different things by this term. And the above is different from something being “subjective,” as subjective means that even when a term has a designated and agreed upon meaning, people will still disagree on whether this or that player belongs in that category. For example, if I… Read more »

Dissenter

Receding
Ramsey is not elite level in my book
I realized I never really answered the question.

Paulinho

Dissenter – You were a hater, then couldn’t stop lavishing praise on him around Spring last year, now you are back to hating him 😉

un na naai

DissenterSeptember 28, 2018 11:59:46
Some people believe that “world class” ought to be reserved for a saintly few and use worlds like “international class” or “elite” for players that stand out but aren’t in the top most class.
I’m not sure if that’s what Bamford is alluding to, but it’s out there.

Dissenter

Now who’s sniveling? Stop trying to tongue bunch Bamford’s fart box and stick to your “original thinking” looolzzz

Champagne Charlie

Un na

Sorry mate your chatting shit re:TonyD

There’s nothing defendable about a guy who wants to flop his cock on a forum full of strangers over his lifestyle. Especially when it’s used as some power move to assert himself.

It’s pathetic and speaks volumes of the character he is. By saying as such and being repulsed by his attitude in no way denigrates the idea of earning, or anything associated. That’s what you’re bringing to the table there, nobody else. Flaunting anything over others in any case is fucking embarrassing.

un na naai

Cc

It’s nay chatting shit if it’s my opinion. And my opinion is that if people can’t stomach someone else’s success then it’s down to bitterness and resent.

There’s always someone considerably richer than yeow so why get bent outta shape?

C’est la vie

Dissenter

Unai
Thanks for reminding me to switch off my autocomplete.
The proofreading is appreciated but is that all you’ve got left to hurl at me.

You and TonyD deserve each other.
Maybe he’ll drop a tip for you when he returns back here from his business escapades.

Redtruth

So many backward folk on.legrove like Sam who ordained Walcott a footbsll God…

Bamford10

Un na

When in form, sure. But you’re also misreading my meaning: by top 33, I’m not saying in form he would be selected to start for the current iterations of a City, a Barca, a Madrid. That’s a slightly different claim. My claim is more that he would be selected in a World 33 or that he would not be out of place in such a selection.

You keep trying, though, guy.

Jamie

Anyone who has real money doesn’t boast about it. Same goes for intellect.

Dissenter

I’m pretty sure TonyD isn’t the most successful person around these parts.
The rest of us just have the upbringing and awareness to not drop showy lines in every sentences
Unai na na fool doesn’t get that simple point.
Anything so long as he can prove he’s the defender of capitalism.

Receding Hairline

I don’t even know why certain posters still reply to Tony D and Guns of Hackney

I found it amusing reading Guns of Hackneys breakdown a few nights ago,..i noticed he has not been on here since then.

Tony D just brags and brags about what he has achieved financially ,,,which is no different to what Gambon does most times only in a more subtle way.

un na naai

Dissenter

I do just fine sweetheart. Don’t you worry. Xx

Champagne Charlie

Un na That’s fine but you’re missing the point entirely with that approach. Nobody is saying anything against TonyD for whatever wealth he claims. He could be Elon Musk, it’s irrelevant. What rubs people up the wrong way is flaunting one’s wealth and lifestyle as a dick swinging tactic. It’s shallow and utterly pathetic to announce to complete strangers things like his 100 sqft home gym, staying at the Ritz, upgrading home sound systems whilst name dropping various brands. He’s not the wealthiest on here, that I’d bet a large sum on…so why aren’t other wealthy individuals dropping their extravagance… Read more »

un na naai

Dissenter

I wouldn’t even defend capitalism as I believe there can be a happy medium. I abhore cronie capitalism and globalist corporations. But I don’t bristle at the mention of someone else’s success and it’s my opinion that those who might are resentful and bitter

gonsterous

dissenter

this isn’t anything to do with lightning. No club wants to postpone getting a player or being successful. That’s why utd bought sanchez and that’s why if we say ramsey is available at a discount rate, clubs will cue up to buy him in Jan.

Bamford10

Receding

FIFA have a World XI, no? Yes, they do. This is why I have long talked also of a theoretical “World XXII”. This is why I have further extended this to a theoretical “World XXXIII”. See how that works? It’s one way of thinking of a player’s quality, and it makes perfect sense.

Receding Hairline

My claim is more that he would be selected in a World 33 or that he would not be out of place in such a selection.

Will Harry Kane make it into this selection??

Has such a selection ever been made??

If yes can we have a look

If no why invent it today just to make your point

Bamford10

Un ne

Well, we differ there then. For me “world class” is a higher designation than “top tier”. But this is precisely why I say above that these kinds of terms are “designatory”. They don’t have some one, set, defined meaning, as some people seem to believe.

un na naai

Cc

He’s clearly on a windup and you’re letting him get to you. He does it to irritate. Otherwise why bother??

You always carry yourself well on here and outclass most in your debates until you come up agaisnt TonyD and this is clearly your kryptonite.

Dissenter

Unai na
Good for you but you make a good attempt to not rub it in our faces .
I applaud that because that’s what well -rounded and emotionally balanced people do.
Try telling that to the person you’re defending.
Cheers and have a good day

Bamford10

Receding

Sure. Harry Kane might make a World 33. He’s not world class, though. That’s a higher designation — more like first 11 or first 22.

Receding Hairline

So basically Bamford a world 33 isn’t really a thing

It’s just something u do on your own to rank players in terms of quality, there is nothing wrong with that by the way, the issue here is why bring it into the discussion and then act like we are a bunch of backwards morons when asked to explain yourself

un na naai

Bamford

God are you still banging this drum!!??

Noooo. Ramsey does not make it into the top 3 world elevens.

Now you’ve embarrassed yourself AGAIN. Go and sit in the corner and have a little think….

Jamie

Ramsay wouldn’t make it into the World CX if we’re playing that game. He isn’t a world top 10 central or attacking midfielder.

Jamie

Ramsey*

un na naai

Bamford

So if world class is a higher designation than Ramsey then he is clearly not TOP tier but the tier BELOW top tier.

This is painful
I can smell burning. Must be bam bam trying to think of a way out of his little self imposed conundrum.

Turn it in Bamford you lemon. You’ve tangled yourself in knots on this one

Bamford10

I said “in form” he would, Jamie. If you disagree, fine; plenty would agree with me, though. And plenty have, historically.

Champagne Charlie

Un na

I’m not riled by him whatsoever, or by the topic itself. I’m simply trying to explain where Dissenter, and myself, come from in this respect.

Tony is full of weird quips about me, I go back and forth as per with him. There’s a reason I call him Del Boy lol

Dissenter

gonsterous I ‘m sure you’ll agree that United bailed us out of a very embarrassing situation. They took a player off our hands that they very well could have had for no transfer fee in the summer had they offered the supposed 500k weekly wage he earns now. They allowed us to exit a blatant bungling with a hint of respect. It’s not going to happen again. How many times do you see clubs doing player swaps? How often have you seen clubs do player swaps in the January window? You have to admit there was a rarity about what… Read more »

Paulinho

“My claim is more that he would be selected in a World 33 or that he would not be out of place in such a selection”

Spot on Bamford.

He was selected in the 2016 European Championships team of the tournament, so yes, it goes without saying he wouldn’t look out of place at the top table of world footballers, especially when this year’s World Cup featured four European semi-finalists.

Bamford10

No, Un na, you’ve just gone and confused yourself. Go back, re-read, write it all down maybe to make sure you keep everything straight in your head.

Have a good day, all. Time for me to educate some young people. 😉

Champagne Charlie

What the fuck is this world XXXXXXIIIII mess being spat out?

Easy question to get some context here…

What is Ramsey’s best position? Who is he getting compared to in world football?

Jamie

“In form” Walcott might also make the world CX. Problem is there are more players in their respective positions who are “in form” more often. Taking a snapshot of their best performances isn’t the most effective way of judging a player’s ability over the course of their career. Remember Michu? Papiss Cisse? Anyone can hit a purple patch.

There are easily 10 attacking mids (even more central mids) who consistently play more clinical football in Europe than Aaron Ramsey. Happy to list 10 of each, and I concede my opinions are subjective.

un na naai

Cc

Ok. Maybe you aren’t riled by him. Seems that way but my point is that he’s clearly dangling the bait. He’s winding up. Being another wind up merchant yourself I’d have thought you’d have sensed that.

And to me anyone who bites on shit like that does so for a reason.

That’s my two pence anyway so maybe you can go and ruin Bamford’s day even more than he already has himself.

Receding Hairline

Have a good day, all. Time for me to educate some young people.

That is actually what worries me the most, going by the character you exhibit here you should not be allowed anywhere near formative minds.

What do you do when they ask questions Bamford, ask them to leave the class??

Dissenter

(Drum roll). Ta-tata-tata-tata-tata-tata

“What is Ramsey’s best position? Who is he getting compared to in world football”

(Confetti pouring down)

Ramsey sucks when he’s given a defined position.
Tell Ramsey to play for the kleig lights…bam. He’s top class

VicVic

Happy afternoon, guys.

How is the business of tearing into eachother going?

I say Alex and Danny start the next game on both flanks while Laca starts upfront plus Mikki behind him and Auba on the bench, what do you say?

Bamford10

Jamie

No, Walcott wouldn’t. Not even close to a good enough all-around footballer. I’ll let you argue this out with Paulinho; see his comment above.

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What do you do when they ask questions Bamford, ask them to leave the class??

I bet he makes a right doughnut of himself in class

Paulinho

Bamford – I don’t really have a problem with Jamie’s opinion.

I would concede Ramsey is lower end of a tier of elite players, and everyone looks for different things in a midfielder.