Ramsey deal off? I have my doubts

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Well, let’s crack into the Brentford game. Arsenal took down their preseason foes with a fairly simple 3-1 victory. I think we saw some great play, it’s great to see the reserve team playing hard for the manager. There was style on display, some lovely goals and obviously, a goal for Brentford.

Danny Welbeck deserves special praise. His header was early on, he was clinical and used his height and power perfectly. His second goal was more about the team, it was #Emeryball from start to finish. The ball began from Leno and ended up the other end of the pitch with Danny there to sweep the ball home. A really classy number.

Old Danny is untapped potential. He has it all, power, pace, height, hardwork, and a knack for getting in the right positions. He’s just not very clinical. If there’s a way to fluff your lines, you can bet Danny’s done it. Hopefully, at the end of the season, we’ll see who he really can be as a striker. Hopefully, he becomes the lethal weapon we’d love him to be.

The final goal came from Lacazette bullying 4 defenders before smashing a low shot past the Brentford keeper.

A great start to a competition Wenger never managed to win. Extra impetus to make something happen this season.

In other news, John Cross put it all on the line saying Arsenal have withdrawn their contract off for Ramsey and he’ll be leaving next summer.

Now, the way the article reads is it’s the clubs choice.

For me, Arsenal are a business. We need to look out for the future. The notion that Ramsey shut off contract talks forever in September seems a touch odd. Basic client strategy would say that if he has no intention of signing, at least string the club along so they don’t drop you for the season.

Emery cannot afford to have an uncommitted player as his number 10 for 8 months. It wouldn’t make sense. We saw exactly what happened last season. Sanchez and Ozil were ok before Christmas, then it all went to shit the back half of the season. The rumours, the lack of commitment in games, the rumblings behind the scenes. Picture yourself on an 8 month notice period, do you think you’d be going hard for a club y0u’re bombing off? Or do you think you’d be protecting your ability to sign a pre-contract with Juve in January?

If, and it’s a big if… Ramsey has told the club it’s 0ver. Then we have to move to sell him in January. Save money on his contract, recoup a fee and save on the ball ache of carrying a passenger.

I’d been told in the summer from my best source that the agent of Ramsey was pushing for Ozil money.

The club made this position even worse when the new manager said he wanted to the build the team around the Welshman. You give away all you leverage when you position the player as integral.

The worst move Ivan Gazidis made last year was sanctioning the extension of Mesut Ozil. We are paying £350k a week to a player the whole of Europe passed on last year. A player who still looks very checked out. A player who has been relegated to a position he doesn’t want to play. Now a player, who let’s be honest, is far more valuable to the Emery system, is likely to leave because we can’t pay him that.

… but we’ll see. Raul and Sven are stupid. I can’t believe there’s not a plan to deal with this. I’d be very surprised if we lose him on a free.

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Boomslang

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Dissenter

Bamford
For the record, I don’t see any bigoted insinuations in your reply to my Iwobi comment.
I was mindful of whatever bias I may hold about him, which is why I added that I was openly mockingly critical of his contract extension in the summer.
I wasn’t a big fan of Iwobi until this season.
He’s been playing like a hungry young player, with hustle and has been a candidate for man of of the match for every game he has played. I insist he’s destined for great things, you obviously see it differently.

Champagne charlie

“Wait, Charlie, because I think you harbor anti-American sentiments, I’m a racist?“ It’s fuel to that fire, as is proposing that “the English” (of which i’m one) have a superiority complex over the English language, as is deducing Dissenters praise of Iwobi stems from his Nigerian heritage given several others commented in praise of Iwobi. There’s the reasoning for why you can be considered a racist/bigot, the fact race/ethnicity is so readily in you’re consciousness is curious enough. Your take that i’m “Anti-American” comes from using the work “yank”, period.. so there’s another one of your “better arguments” you supposedly… Read more »

Biggles

The world kept turning when Wilshere left. I like Ramsey, I think he could with a bit more proper coaching be truly excellent, but he’s not there yet and at his age it’s a bit hard to look to future potential. He’s not worth Ozil money, that’s for sure. I’m not into socialist wage structures, but if you pay stupid money, you’ll have everybody clamouring for it. Auba, as record signing and probably most important player, should likely be the top earner. Part of me also wonders if the reason that we gave Xhaka an extension is because we knew… Read more »

N5

I’m butting in with no context at all Dissenter but I like Iwobi too. I think he’s got some great potential.

SE19Gooner

Swap Ramsey for Pogba and £30M?

PessimisticPat

Well at least the ramsey situation is over. Id bench him or stick him in the u23’s till january. Moving on.

Champagne charlie

Pedro I commented on the previous post in a similar vein. Our gutless board will more than likely bend over to Rambo and rebrand it as defiant and strong detainment of talent. Rumours of a 50 mil bid rejected in the summer would add further credence, because again the board haven’t the spine to take the money and move on a player who was popular among the fans for his seasons exploits (the validity of which i’ll ignore on this occasion). It all comes back to what i’ve said about the leadership at Arsenal, it’s meek and woefully pragmatic in… Read more »

azed

Swap Ramsey for Pogba and £30M?

Ramsey, Ozil, Xhaka and 30M for Pogba seems fair.

azed

CC

I doubt that anyone would have bid 50M for Ramsey in the summer and the board would not have taken it.

I’d say that rumour is bs.

Dissenter

That Ramsey post was written by a DM reported known to be a shrill for agents. I bet all it took was a some warm beer and fish +chips for him to write that nonsense piece. The 50 million bid for Ramsey never happened. It is the type of crap agents plant in the media. The club has called out his bluff and now he is out on a limb. This is exactly how we should have handled Ozil’s situation last year season. He shouldn’t be in the core of match day planning. Freeze him out and bring in his… Read more »

Eduardo

Ramsey is never worth a 15 million a year contract. 10 million at the most. He’s replaceable. In fact, we should be able to find someone who’s a better fit for the team than his dopamine-driven, Roy of the Rovers schtick.

It’ll be interesting to see where he ends up.

Receding Hairline

I doubt that anyone would have bid 50M for Ramsey in the summer and the board would not have taken it.I’d say that rumour is bs

Unadulterated BS!!

I chuckled when i say Paulinho come on to wank over a rumor. Why not name the club that placed the bid

Alexanderhenry

Pedro

‘ Raul and Sven are stupid’.

Let’s hope not.

Typos aside, I think one or two of ramsay, Özil, Xhaka and iwobi should go.

Cesc Appeal

With Emery seeming to be interested in N’zonzi, Banega and also a winger I doubt very much the club turned down £50 Million for a player asking for wages way above his worth and running into his last year.

Accepting that £50 Million could have bought you both N’Zonzi and Banega and you would might have had change still.

Receding Hairline

Accepting that £50 Million could have bought you both N’Zonzi and Banega and you would might have had change still.

But who will make those runs into the box?? Or don’t you know no football club can survive without a midfielder deserting the midfield for 90 minutes to camp in the oppositions box

Dissenter

AlexanderH
” I think one or two of ramsay, Özil, Xhaka and iwobi should go.”

Of the quartet you mentioned, Iwobi is the only young player on a 60-70k wage who can be content to not start. The rest of the four are on 6 figure wages and are in the prime of their career.

Really why lump all four together?
What the common denominator?

Receding Hairline

Really why lump all four together?
What the common denominator?

Dislike

Leedsgunner

Ramsey is history. Sure I understand that a footballer’s career is short and they have to make the most of it but after the unwavering loyalty the club showed him… it seems very shallow that Ramsey is walking away after the support we gave him.

Maybe the club fell short of the money he wanted but I suspect he would have been offered at least over £150k per week…

Insane that he thinks he’s worth more.

£25m is still good business… and we can move on.

Paulinho

Receding – Didn’t quite match the jizzathon which occurred with you when Ozil scored against Saudi Arabia.

When you ‘walked out the room'(to grab some Kleenex).

Leedsgunner

On other news Iwobi looks like the player he was a couple of seasons ago. Excellent man management from Emery.

Receding Hairline

Receding – Didn’t quite match the jizzathon which occurred with you when Ozil scored against Saudi Arabia.

The fact you still cling on to this every time I call u up on Ramsey, makes the whole claim you were joking when you came on to praise his “assist” to Lacazette all the more laughable. Between both comments only one can be seen as a joke.

Cesc Appeal

At least Watford is at home, going to be tough though.

Iwobi should start, I don’t want to see this Guendouzi/Torreria, Xhaka, Ramsey, Ozil thing anymore.

Paulinho

Receding – What does me reminding you of one of the most embarrassing cringeworthy LeGrove posts of all time have to do with Ramsey?

Reaching there by quite a bit.

Michael24

Leedsgunner

Hit the nail on the head.

Ramsey is history and we need to move on.

Victorious

Hello bitches!

Arsene's Nurse

The only way Ramsey can be played in the side is by fitting him with a shock collar.

Once he’s been shocked 50 times a game for a few weeks he might then be capable of playing as a midfielder.

He’s no loss.

Pierre

Even last night ramsey had me shouting “GET OUT OF THE FUCKING WAY RAMSEY” as lacazette bullied his way through in the last minute to score a well taken goal..

Wtf was he doing up there anyway… We were 2-1 up with a minute to go…

Receding Hairline

Receding – What does me reminding you of one of the most embarrassing cringeworthy LeGrove posts of all time have to do with Ramsey?

Embarrassing and cringe worthy to you alone…and the fact you still remember it word for word when literally no one else has ever brought it up shows the issue lies with you not the post.

You can go now resume wanking over Ramsey’s spectacular assist to Lacazette over the weekend

Receding Hairline

Wtf was he doing up there anyway… We were 2-1 up with a minute to go…

He was brought on to steady the midfield and see the game out, an alien concept to him.

Unfortunately he sees a game in which he has not scored a goal as a bad game , and in truth it is, because when he is not scoring he is not doing anything else noteworthy

Dissenter

I really think we should condition ourselves to the cold reality that Ramsey is going to walk away for free.
The die is cast

All this talk of …25 million…15 million for him is Alice in fantasy land thinking.

Victorious

Iwobi should start, I don’t want to see this Guendouzi/Torreria, Xhaka, Ramsey, Ozil thing anymore.

Agree on Iwobi ,Lad has bust his guts recently to earn a start

Time to freeze out Ramsey(sorry paulinho)

NO place for a mercenary who can potentially disrupt the fledgling harmony of group who had mental decapitation under wenger

can Emery make the hard decisions? I DOUBT

Paulinho

“Unfortunately he sees a game in which he has not scored a goal as a bad game , and in truth it is, because when he is not scoring he is not doing anything else noteworthy”

Yeah, he does, you’re just too dumb to see it.

Receding Hairline

Yeah, he does, you’re just too dumb to see it.

You and Bamford are the only two posters on this forum that see it as an avenue to show off how smart you think you are. I would have added gambon, but he does not brag about brains, he is more of a brag about money kinda guy.

N5

I miss gambon the big fat know it all. I say that with love. I heard he still uses Twitter a lot?

Does SalparadiseNY still come on here anyone?

Paulinho

Receding – Ozil has been Ozil since day dot.

It’s only now – when the crowd have deserted him – that you’ve jumped on the anti-Ozil bandwagon.

When it comes to football, you’re flip-flopping windbag, yet you sit back and criticise others for inconsistency like some all-knowing being.

Xhaka’s performances haven’t changed since you had supposedly had enough of him a month or so back – only the level of opposition – and yet you’ve done another u-turn on him and think he’s ‘improved’. Laughable stuff.

Receding Hairline

It’s only now – when the crowd have deserted him – that you’ve jumped on the anti-Ozil bandwagon. Nah ..Still very much pro Ozil, and will always be even if he leaves Arsenal, Yes he has dropped in energy and end product but he has talent Ramsey can only dream of. Xhaka’s performances haven’t changed since you had supposedly had enough of him a month or so back – only the level of opposition – and yet you’ve done another u-turn on him and think he’s ‘improved’. Laughable stuff. So we are meant to judge players only when they are… Read more »

Paulinho

“So we are meant to judge players only when they are playing against quality opposition?”

Well, yeah. Judging a player’s level after a match against Chelsea is better indicator of quality than playing Stevenage Borough. You even asking that questions sums up my point about your footballing knowledge.

Paulinho

“Does SalparadiseNY still come on here anyone?”

Yep,every now and then.

Rambo Ramsey

How the fvck did I miss that brilliant political discourse on the previous blog?

Cesc my man, loved your post putting the pompous leftists in the dirt.

Also loved Dissenter’s sly attempt to rewrite the past. I made the prediction that Nike’s sales/stocks would soar as the brain dumb Leftists flock over to ‘show their support to the cause’. Do you remember your response to that prediction of mine? Who’s laughing now?

Receding Hairline

Well, yeah. Judging a player’s level after a match against Chelsea is better indicator of quality than playing Stevenage Borough. You even asking that questions sums up my point about your footballing knowledge.

So what are said players supposed to do when they play Stevenage Borough?? Bring deck chairs out onto the pick, lay back and watch videos of Ramsey on the big screen??

And FFS stop talking about your “footballing knowledge” every time you make a post, we are not measuring phallus sizes on here ..jeez

Paulinho

Whatever a player is ‘supposed to do’ against a poor team is frankly irrelevant and beside the point.

Whatever he does so doesn’t tell us about quality anywhere near as much as match against a top side.

This is just basic common sense. Think I’ve scrambled your senses with the Ozil jizzathon flash backs.

N5

Cheers Paulinho hopefully I’ll bump into him on here soon then!

N5

Hadn’t noticed Cesc posted! Hey dude how are you?

Receding Hairline

This is just basic common sense. Think I’ve scrambled your senses with the Ozil jizzathon flash backs.

Keep telling yourself that oh wise footballing sage, in your little mind you have won every footballing argument you have had on this blog, you even have a trophy cabinet for it.

Danny S

I wish people wouldn’t carry on arguments from previous blogs into new ones.
It’s like some pathetic urge to have the last word.
Grow up people and stop the silly little bitching and bickering.

Rambo Ramsey

Well Danny boy, I wish uptight gits like you wouldn’t ever post on here, but we can’t all have what we wish for can we

China

Pedro how is Ramsey more important to the emery system than ozil? They’ve both been absolutely pants this season. No signs of one being more or less useful than the other

Cesc Appeal

Rambo

What’s your thinking on the whole Ramsey situation?

Personally I’m all for basically ripping the entire middle out, Ramsey, Ozil and Xhaka all of them can go in my opinion.

N5

Ben Affleck, you’re back?

I’m not too bad thanks. How’s it going with you? Arsenal have become a sports club again since the last time we spoke.

Rambo Ramsey

“What’s your thinking on the whole Ramsey situation?”

Ripping up my 234 posters, changing my moniker and drowning my misery with a lot of booze :'(

Cork City Gooner

Hopefully Ozil and Ramsey both leave soon,throw in Xhaka and Mustafi too,4 useless players we really dont need

Cesc Appeal

Players need to stop getting away with doing one thing and living off of it, Ramsey, Ozil and Xhaka are so far from well rounded its not even funny.

Our midfield three need to be hard working and well rounded players. Torreria looks like he might be one of those, Guendouzi is still very young but in future could be. Outside of that we have no one matching that description.

Midfield is so vital and ours is till hindering us.

Bamford10

Dissenter

“Bamford – For the record, I don’t see any bigoted insinuations in your reply to my Iwobi comment.”

Exactly. I didn’t think you would. Why? Because you are an intelligent and reasonable person.

Thank you, Dissenter. I have always liked you. We don’t always agree, but you have always treated me with respect, and I have always tried to treat you with respect. If I have ever fallen short in that regard, I apologize. I can be a little impatient at times.

Cheers.

Pierre

Pedro
“Ramsey presses from the front …..ozil can’t do that”

Welbeck presses from the front ….aubamayang can’t do that.

Iwobi presses from the front……..Mhkitaryan can’t do that

Going by your reasoning we will have a front line of

Ramsey, welbeck and Iwobi ……

pity that sanogo is still not at the club ….I’m sure he can press from the front.
Bentner ?

Bamford10

Actually, Charlie, my belief that you harbor anti-American sentiments comes from a great many things you have said and the tone with which you’ve said them, not just from your occasional use of the phrase “Yank c*nt”.

So, no, sorry; that is not right.

Emiratesstroller

The story coming out that Arsenal AGREED a contract and then pulled out makes absolutely no sense UNLESS

1. Ramsey failed a medical or
2. The agent got greedy and asked for a sweetener, which the club refused to pay.

The bottom line is that if the story was genuine Arsenal have just lost any possibility of getting a transfer fee for the player and he will sit on his hands until end of season.

Receding Hairline

Thank you, Dissenter. I have always liked you. We don’t always agree, but you have always treated me with respect, and I have always tried to treat you with respect. If I have ever fallen short in that regard, I apologize. I can be a little impatient at times.

How touching

Am impatient school teacher..well well well..kinda odd don’t your think

Receding Hairline

1. Ramsey failed a medical or
2. The agent got greedy and asked for a sweetener, which the club refused to pay.

Huh?

Failed a medical?

azed

“pity that sanogo is still not at the club ….I’m sure he can press from the front.
Bentner ?

Its Lord Bendtner Pierre.

Put some ‘respeck’ on that name.

Northbanker

I’d keep Ramsey in reserves from now on. A he’s had long enough to agree and therefore isn’t signing an extension B he’s largely been useless this season C he’s more likely to agree to a sale in January D his market value will go up by NOT displaying his talent

Northbanker

And E it serves as a warning to any other player that strings us along in future
Do it with all of them

Victorious

How Emery handles Ramsey’s situation going forward will tell a great deal how big he’s balls are and if he’s really got what it take to manage a club of arsenal’s size

Trap

Pedro

Ramseys energy/ goal scoring are the only strengths to his game, a 10 who plays ahead of a 9 is really bad for the team setup, besides Unai seems to have toned down on the press .

un na naai

Pierre

Thanks for pointing out I’m not done
How could you tell??

un na naai

Don

un na naai

I can be a little impatient at times.

Bamford

Add facetious, malicious, condescending (however misplaced) hilariously impetuous on footballing trivia, waspish and embarrassingly childish for a man who apparently attended Harvard and is charged with expanding the minds of our next generation of trump supporters.

Peace y’all

Shad

Long time since I posted here. Seeing some regulars still here..N5, Cesc Appeal, Redtruth…seems some trolls disappeared or were banned…

Leedsgunner

Apparently Emre Can agent asked for and received £16m from Juve, despite his client being available on a free. Something similar in the Rambo situation?

Pierre

I’m struggling with this no.10 position that Emery is employing…..I do understand that he uses him for pressing purposes but I can’t see the benefit it is bringing to the team. All it does is leave us vulnerable in midfield …..surely it would be more beneficial for the striker to close down the keeper and central defenders. The no.10 can then be in a position, if we win the ball, to join the attack or,if we don’t win the ball,to drop into midfield to provide protection. Can anyone give an explanation as to how it will work ……even Liverpool only… Read more »

Michael24

I actually want Ramsey to leave. Although he falls into the same “could and should have done better” category that befell so many others before him , I have felt for some time that he has been in cruise control and looks like someone who feels he holds all the cards. Ten years of unfulfilled potential, because that’s what it’s been, represents the Arsenal way under Wenger. Unable to shake free of these negative shackles under our new manager, it is only right that he leaves. Of course the “Ozil agreement”(what a great movie that would make) fudged it up… Read more »

Pierre

Oops * deploying(employing)

nepGunner

“How Emery handles Ramsey’s situation going forward will tell a great deal how big he’s balls are and if he’s really got what it take to manage a club of arsenal’s size”

Please be specific. Do you want Unai to bench him, or play him in the reserves, or play him as a CB, or sell him in January?

un na naai

Jesus I think receding dislikes Ramsey nearly as much as me.

Danny S

I’m over Ramsey now. I really wanted And hoped Emery could bring out his best form but I was very wrong on that.
I do think he’d play better next to torreira, and I also think he gives more to the team than Ozil. But his apparent wage demands and the not signing a contract is boring me now.
Bench him and play iwobi, I don’t see what Ramsey gives above him tbh.

un na naai

We should have let ozil walk for nothing rather than re sign him. Awful player with nothing but contempt for the people who pay to see him change games.
Ramsey is only marginally better due to his diminished talent pool. Both an are a big fat F for application. They couldn’t care less abaiut the badge or the fans. Over paid, self indulgent mercenaries.

There’s no character in football any more. Just over paid, underskilled robots.

un na naai

Danny S

Agree
Or better still, play Mkhitaryan and field iwobi or welbeck on the right to cover for Bellerin for the overlap. Each has a better work rate defensively than ozil or Ramsey

nepGunner

M24

Exactly. I’m fed up with these neo-IWantGreatManagerFromDayOne twats who happily swallowed the previous regimes’ sperms for a decade.

The same wimps who couldn’t dare to challenge the status quo that was damaging the club from inside out are now out of their pity little shit holes to find faults on a new regime that has just started the reform work….completely ignoring funds available, time factor, incompetent personnel at helm, new system, new environment, new relationships etc.

Yet we have won 6 in the trot. SMH

Pierre

Hey un, that’s my title …I’ve been banging on about Ramsey for years .

If he plays Ramsey now ,he won’t want to get injured ,he will pull out of tackles ,he won’t put his head where it hurts…….any injury could jeopardise Ramsey ‘s big pay day..

Emery will go up in my estimation if he does the right thing .

Danny S

Unai

I would honestly take an attacking midfield of iwobi Welbz and miki right now. Xhaka can not worry about defending at all then and just keep spraying his final third balls.
Either that or laca sitting behind auba in a 4-2-2-2 maybe.

Trap

I’m sensing Raul Sanhelli is behind the Ramsey situation, a football man who was at a Barcelona team with top midfielders like Deco,iniesta,xavi,busquets,etc . We honestly can’t do worse a the moment

Victorious

Please be specific. Do you want Unai to bench him, or play him in the reserves, or play him as a CB, or sell him in January?

I want Unai to do what is best for the club,The club has boxed itself into a corner regarding Ramsey’s contract situation
Looks like the Sanchez debacle is happening again
except this time there is no certain Frenchman to take the flake
Would be interesting to see how it all unfolds,wouldnt you agree

N5

All good thanks Cesc! Now two of the three stooges have gone I’m getting back into it…. slowly!

un na naai

Kolasinac back intraining and koscielney due back in November!!!
Could do with them back

I really hope to see more of smith Rowe in the premier league games
Little 20 min cameos here and there. That kid could be gold

nepGunner

Also, people trying to judge Unai’s capabilities over an article written by the most shameless cunt in football journalism of the recent past. In my opinion, Cross will immediately resort to sucking Unai’s dick if Unai even hinted to provide him some “inside stories” about Arsenal.

un na naai

If he plays Ramsey now ,he won’t want to get injured ,he will pull out of tackles ,he won’t put his head where it hurts…….any injury could jeopardise Ramsey ‘s big pay day..

Pierre

Tackles? Aaron Ramsey?

un na naai

Danny s

They’ve all played well so far this season when given the opportunity. Ozil and Ramsey have been trading water for 4-5 years now. The gig is up.

un na naai

Lacazette and Mkhitaryan are (relatively speaking) probably not *quite* as talented as Aubameyang, Ramsey and Özil, but, at this point, they are better at balancing the attack

Danny S

There is no doubt there has been a vast improvement in both iwobi and welbeck. They had all the best intentions both of them, but no proper coaching. Now it’s clear they are benefitting from the new set up.
I hoped the same for bellerin, but that’s still to materialise. I think bellerin benefitted from mert at the back. He knew he had to cover him so didn’t bomb forward as much. Plus mert directed him around the pitch.

nepGunner

“I want Unai to do what is best for the club,The club has boxed itself into a corner regarding Ramsey’s contract situation Looks like the Sanchez debacle is happening again except this time there is no certain Frenchman to take the flake Would be interesting to see how it all unfolds,wouldnt you agree” You stated that what Unai does with Ramsey’s situation will tell us “how big his balls’ are”, yet you don’t know what that determining action/decision is. Everyone here wants Unai, or any other Arsenal manager for that matter, to do the best for the club. In the… Read more »

un na naai

Arseblog have written a timely peice on Ramsey and ozil today.
Wonderful little article.

https://arseblog.com/2018/09/attack-attack-attack/

VicVic

Wish I could turn back the hands of time…..and this situation is actually about Ozil and not Ramsey.

Ramsey IMHO can really be useful if played along Torriera in the middle. 10, though, is not his thing.

Ramsey can be useful, guys.

Honestly he’s one of the very few players we’ve got who don’t play with fear when playing big teams.

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