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Ishola
If you needed a CF, how much would you be willing to spend on Harry Kane? What, for you, would be a reasonable price for him?
Further, if you were ranking the following as starting CFs, how would you rank them?
Kane
Lacazette
Aubameyang
Lukaku
Gabriel Jesus
Lewandowski
Yaya toure’s agent has said Yaya is willI got to play for any top 6 club for £1 per week !
Sign da ting Yaya
The above is for anyone/everyone, obviously.
CA I love you man but it honestly doesn’t look like we’re shopping in the big boy aisle this summer. Links suggest we’re shopping in the kids aisle. Pjanic is a great player absolutely the kind of midfielder that Ramsey should be but isn’t. Not a ghost of a chance we could nab him
Bad typos there !
Willing to play for any top 6 prem team except Man City
Kane 70M I used to rate him highly but I don’t as much now.
Lewandowski (Although hes dropped off a bit)
Kane
Auba
Lukaku
Lacazette
Gabriel
Kane
Lacazette
Aubameyang
Lukaku
Gabriel Jesus
Lewandowski
Kane is probably the best there. Shades it for age over Lewandowski. Saw a stat there on sky a while back that in the last 4 or 5 years or whatever it was Kane was in the top 5/6 in Europe only Ronaldo, Messi maybe Suarez and Lewandowski scored more goals. And very little separating himself and Lewandowski and Suarez and Cavani and Aguero. So price wise well significantly more than 40 million I’d say in this market he’d easily fetch 100-150 million
Yaya Toure is a cunt.
Called Pep racist all because he fell out of favour as he was too fat, and then too shit to get back in the team once he lost his weight. Ego driven tosser. Remember when he didnt get African player of the year and PEA did. He called it a disgrace. He’s a cunt and im glad hes out the league. Also no way he’ll play for £1. Thats BS of the highest calibre, just like Karius’ “Concussion”
In the current market plus given his record and age, i reckon Kane will set you back between £80-£100m. Especially with General Levy running things over there.
Lewandowski
Aubameyang
Kane
Lukaku
Lacazette
Gabriel Jesus
Bamford Depends on the set-up of the team and whether it is tailored to Kane. If so and you are an EPL club then you spend the necessary on him because he has shown without doubt that he can score plenty of goals in the EPL. Misses quite a few mind as well. As for International stage he hasn’t shown any real indication that he can really set it alight on the top international stage. He may well turn out a very good club player but no so hot on the international scene and there have been plenty like him… Read more »
It’s on arsenal.com
It’s on arsenal.com
It is indeed.
Well that’s litchsteiner signed a new era begins.
Fellanini next, and John lukic out of retirement and were good to go!
Lichtsteiner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhaHaEyEfHQ
First goal by Raul is class
So The Licht official.
Problem with him is if Bellerin goes down with a long term injury Licht won’t be able to deputise for him for any stretch.
But he can be useful coming in as first team starter few games and coming off the bench in matches.
Spot on PessimisticPat.
“Yaya Toure is a cunt.”
Correct.
Always been a very arrogant player and his agent is an absolute arsehole.
They make quite a twosome.
Agent has been badmouthing Guardiola yet again today.
What a signing!
Lol
Fans going crazy!
Bring in fellaini
Sheesh
Are we being fleeced again ? Wtf
Lichtsteiner started 21 or 27 games for Juve last season I think. The talk of his age being any sort of inhibiting factor is lazy commentary.
We got Debuchy off the wage bill and replaced him with Lichtsteiner. Good business Arsenal, keeps Bellerin honest.
Please no official arsenal.com of Fellani. PLEASE!!!!!!!!
We got Debuchy off the wage bill and replaced him with Lichtsteiner. Good business Arsenal, keeps Bellerin honest.
How’s it good business? Debuchy since leaving has done brilliantly and is younger. Licht is 34 he’s not pushing Bellerin too much. Any other 34 year old RB’s at the other top 6 clubs? It’s honestly a lazy signing doesn’t improve the starting 11
Bamford10, your argument for selling Laca is the most idiotic I’ve ever read. So you expect the club or have one true CF all season?
I’m happy with ‘THE LICH’ all things considered.
Him & Bellerin for RB position. With AMN as emergency cover.
“Fellaini next”
lol please no!!
Champagne charlie
“Lichtsteiner started 21 or 27 games for Juve last season I think. The talk of his age being any sort of inhibiting factor is lazy commentary.”
21 true but he only completed 90 mins in under half of those games.
The old boy definitely running out of gas.
“He is currently in England and will be doing everything he needs on Tuesday,” said the player’s father. “There was also interest from United, but he would have had to wait until July. Sokratis chose Arsenal.”
I’m sorry ?? Did Sokratis chose Arsenal only because he would have had to wait until July to sign for Manure ??? lol
@Ishola : if the player is too old and experimented, it’s not ok.
If the player is too young and inexperimented, it’s not ok either…
(sighs…)
Lichsteiner is there to teach bellerin his experience is invaluable it also means we can sub bellerin if he is having a stinker
Not an “Ozil” signing but I really hope he shocks and smacks bellerin back into Reality.
That guy atm is living in a fricking bubble.
Just saw that Anelka was part of the “legends game” against Madrid…
I’m sorry but he isn’t, in any case, a legend of our club.
“if the player is too old and experimented, it’s not ok.
If the player is too young and inexperimented, it’s not ok either”
HL I’ve said he can be useful but anyone that thinks he can play straight matches at a continuous stretch for 90 mins is mistaken. If Bellerin goes down for any real length of time Licht can cover for him but only for a certain time period.
We have in recent years wasted time and money on the likes of Rosicky, Arteta, Santi and Per players who got paid for contributing not much and I don’t think we’ve learned we’re a bit of a retirement community. It’d be one thing if he was 30/31 but 34 playing for the first time in England its asking a bit much
I’d much rather we got someone who pushes Bellerin for the starting position Ricardo Pereira moved to Leicester for 17 or 24 million that will end up being a steal for them. Alvaro Odriozola of Sociedad would have been a good signing too.
Fun to see some reactions about the Fellaini link around the web…
“Emery Out!!” or “I don’t want this piece of shit at Arsenal” lol
Benjamin Henrichs of Leverkusen very versatile full back would have been a good signing. Licht seems like was just brought in to play europa league and carling cup games for us
Someone please kills the Puma kits designer, what an absolutely horrible shirt…
I’d much rather we got someone who pushes Bellerin for the starting position Ricardo Pereira moved to Leicester for 17 or 24 million that will end up being a steal for them.
I was calling for Periera too awhile ago but I don’t’ think he would be looking to sit on the bench at Arsenal.
Emery about Licht : “Stephan brings huge experience and leadership to our squad. He’s a player with great quality with a very positive and determined attitude. Stephan will improve us on and off the pitch.”
Marko
Yea we all know you’d splash 20 mil on a backup RB, because that’s FIFA 101.
Fact is Lichtsteiner offers valuable experience, and a safety net to Bellerin for no fee. So your proposed 20 mil can be used on more important areas of the team.
Nothing lazy about it, it’s smart.
I was calling for Periera too awhile ago but I don’t’ think he would be looking to sit on the bench at Arsenal.
He’d start over Bellerin quick enough.
Licht is basically a replacement for Per of last season. He’ll be there but he won’t be pushing for a starting place really
Yea we all know you’d splash 20 mil on a backup RB, because that’s FIFA 101. Classic lazy commentary from yourself. I never said 20 million on a back up RB I said a starting one. It depends really on whether or not people think we need a starting RB or a back up one and is the signing ambitious enough. The general feeling you get around here is that Bellerin hasn’t been performing well for two seasons at least so one could argue that adding a starting RB is more important than a back up. And the whole more… Read more »
It’s actually quite stupid when you think about it what if Bellerin doesn’t improve in the next year or two? Then you’re looking at a scenario where we have to go out and buy two RB’s not to mention Monreal is 32. We needed another full back in their 30’s like we need a hole in the head
I’m guessing The Lich is a dressing room buy.
We have limited money and a terrible squad, work on players that can improve, buy freebies in one or two places and use available funds for the mega purchase.
Bellerin is 22, there’s lots of room to grow and if Emery and the Lich can help him, that would be great.
Lich brings experience and a winning mentality if that runs off on bellerin then great and rather Lichsteiner in that position than chambers as cover anyday
Can people stop with this nonsense Stephen Lichtsteiner is being brought in as a footballer not to coach Bellerin on being a better RB. It’s nonsense trying to justify the signing as a potential coach hire.
Marko
No what’s stupid is paying 20 mil for a player to bench Bellerin.
Stockpiling that level of talent at Rb of all positions is an incredibly daft way of using limited funds.
Oh dear, the resident FIFA player hasn’t a clue about the benefits of experience…
Per had experience and a winning mentality and did that improve anything? The only thing that would improve a player in this squad is competition for places. For so long we had players make fuck up after fuck up only to continue to be picked because there was no competition for places or no accountability. Bellerin will know full well that long term wise a 34 year old will not be starting over him consistently. A 26 year old or promising 21 year old would have him on his toes. I mean I actually like Licht good attitude and professional… Read more »
Why have they signed him then Marko ? Is he going to be first choice ?
If you surround yourself with winners it pays off mate.
What RB has coached Bellerin since he has been here ?
Most senior players coach the youngsters even though they are playing still
Oh dear, the resident FIFA player hasn’t a clue about the benefits of experience…
Says the guy who made so many arguments for Arteta being manager. All for the sake of being a contrary twat. It’s funny I seem to remember you not long ago making a case for selling Bellerin Charles. Anyway I’m sure you’ll deny it. Good lad
Why have they signed him then Marko ? Is he going to be first choice ? Why have they signed Licht? I’m guessing because he’s free and we’re not a serious club anymore. If you surround yourself with winners it pays off mate. What RB has coached Bellerin since he has been here ? Most senior players coach the youngsters even though they are playing still Liverpool I think everyone will agree has a really promising RB in Alexander Arnold and he’s being “coached” by the senior RB eh Clyne. So your point isn’t really a point. A young RB… Read more »
Juventus started out their rebuild with seeking free transfers around Europe. We are following the same path. I wont be surprised if Liechtensteiner supplants Bellerin as number one in that position. There’s a reason why he’s not taken the Chinese route. He still has some life in those old legs. Dani Alves was the same age when he went to PSG and became their main RB. We need more experienced free transfers, including Fellaini. We are building a proper squad, not the Wenger make-belief squad of giving old crocks like Mertascaker or young ones that aren’t ready to play squad… Read more »
Marko Yea I made a case for Arteta signing because I’m capable of assessing what’s in front of me. I still preferred Allegri, I could merely recognise the merit in Arteta. Good point though, super relevant…… Selling Bellerin? Yep, would happily do so if Barca were offering 50 mil because you can replace him for less than that, and put the money elsewhere in the side. There’s also been a doubt about his commitment given he wanted out last summer. Fact is however, he wants to be here now, wanted the number 2 shirt, and is ready to go again… Read more »
Dissenter
“There’s a reason why he’s not taken the Chinese route.”
He actually said his family doesn’t want to move away from europe.
The pl,an seems to get free transfers of experienced players to make up the squad of 25 players, then save the money for 1-2 major transfers.
The new manager does not have the eternal gratitude of Arsenal. He has to get going from day one hence the preference for experienced players.
Dissenter that is all well and good but not all leagues are the same. It’s very plausible to think a 34 year old RB who made 21 appearances in Italy last year probably only finished 90 minutes a handful of times will struggle to make an impact in the English premier league. Hard to imagine he starts over Bellerin more often than not
Ishola
Lichsteiner played 27 games for Juventus. He was offered a contract renewal and wanted to do something else.
He’s going to be our number one RB very quickly because he’s better than Bellerin. How old is Dani Alves again????
CC
We need to asterisk your moniker for the full throat-ed endorsement of Arteta 🙂
Aren’t you surprised that Real Madrid don’t have Arteta on their short list?
Yea I made a case for Arteta signing because I’m capable of assessing what’s in front of me. I still preferred Allegri, I could merely recognise the merit in Arteta. Good point though, super relevant…… You argue a case for an experienced RB but argue for an inexperienced manager over a more experienced manager. Quite relevant shows you as someone who just argues for arguing sake You continue your daily hissy fit though because he’s not some 21 year old with mental FIFA potential. He’s actually got good potential in the game. You keep lapping up whatever shite your given… Read more »
Dissenter he started 21 games in Serie A and only completed 90 mins on 9 occasions.
How many games of 90 mins did Alves complete before his most recent move?
You are obviously making things up as you go along because Lichtsteiner clearly stated to the press that he had no intention of moving away from europe because his family did not want to leave the continent.
Marko
I think you’re understating how bad Bellerin has been for two seasons. All it will take will be 1-2 games of seeing what a proper RB looks like for Bellerin to be dropped.
I keep asking, how old is Dani Alves again?
Right exactly my point Dissenter if Bellerin is that bad then why not replace him? This isn’t replacing him. No way
Dissenter
Where was the full blown endorsement of Arteta? I said it was an exciting possibility, but didn’t dismiss the potential pitfalls whatsoever. I also preferred Allegri, so that in itself makes a mockery of your comment.
Marko
Another apples to oranges argument, shocker. Arteta was a concern because of a lack of experience, but that could’ve been mitigated to an extent by having a number 2 steeped in…….experience. See how that transfer of ideas works?
“Right exactly my point Dissenter if Bellerin is that bad then why not replace him?”
1) Bellerin is bad because of the coaching. Our defence in general has been terrible.
2) Bellerin is 22 and there’s a very big chance he will improve drastically with better coaching
3) We don’t have unlimited money so we need to make smart purchases. Better to get a freebie like Lich and spend the scarce money upgrading other places.
Oh btw it’s Licht not Lich.
Three syllables. Licht-Stein-er lol
Its the same reason why the club is going after Socrates. When it comes to defence, better coaching trumps individual talent.
Player by Player, we have far talented defenders than Burnley but as a team, they have a better defence than us. That is down to coaching and work on the training ground.
So the club is going the route of getting experienced defenders who know what it means to work as a team and know what defending means while saving the limited funds for other places.
azed it is also because of their style of football not just coaching.
Burnley may have a better defensive record by far as well but they also are well behind Arsenal in scoring goals themselves.
Park the bus and counter.
That was Burnley season just gone.
Ishola
Their style of football is dictated by the players they have. Our attack is good, Midfield unbalanced and defence poor.
Just coaching alone would improve our defence by at least 20%.
Maybe it would but Burnley had a much better defensive record than Arsenal season just gone because of the way they set up and play. Park the bus, counter. Coaching is in it as well but if you sit back and contain for long periods then you can get a better defensive record.
Such play would not be tolerated at Arsenal.
Azed
So much sense, what a welcome sight 😀
Azed
If Arsenal go the route of Burnley next season and park the bus and look for counters inbetween then maybe Arsenal can match their defensive record lol.
Burnley also had Cork and Defour sitting in front of the defence while Arsenal had in midfield the Regista Xhaka and the secondary striker Ramsey in midfield lol
the sad news is, every time lichsteiner starts a game, we have to have a RB in the bench and we have to sub him out… the pensioner will be out of breath running for 60mins…
“Burnley also had Cork and Defour sitting in front of the defence while Arsenal had in midfield the Regista Xhaka and the secondary striker Ramsey in midfield”
I would rather the club spend money replacing Xhaka with a proper DM and buying another box to box midfielder than spending 20M to buy someone to compete with Bellerin.
Can you now see that the Licht is a good signing?
I do see the positives in this signing though. let’s get the other over 30s signings done too…
“If Arsenal go the route of Burnley next season and park the bus and look for counters inbetween then maybe Arsenal can match their defensive record”
We don’t need to pack the Bus, we just need everyone to know their defensive responsibilities. Also we have better Midfielders than Burnley or half of the EPL so we can control games.
Against the top 6, I’m fine with packing the Bus.
In the past, the experienced/veteran spot would have been filled by an “internal solution” of crocked players like Rosicky,Arteta, Mertascaker or Cazorla.
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“the sad news is, every time lichsteiner starts a game, we have to have a RB in the bench and we have to sub him out… the pensioner will be out of breath running for 60mins…” No really, we can switch to 3 at the back. Also, against the bottom teams, we don’t need him bombing forward. Y’all have been wengerised for so long, football can be fluid so much so that when we have the ball, we can line up with 3 at the back with the Licht becoming a third CB while the LB moves up to join… Read more »
azedJune 5, 2018 17:10:27
“Can you now see that the Licht is a good signing?”
Could be useful on occasions but really the signing confirms that Bellerin is top dog still at RB.
Licht only completed 90 mins on 9 occasions in Serie A season just gone and there is a reason for that. And it’s not because he has loads of life left in those legs as Dissenter told us.
We have just brought in a player with almost 100 capos for Switzerland. He’s the captain of his country and would have played in two world cups and two European Championships by the time he starts his first game for Arsenal.
The days of nice boys in the defense are over. There will be accountability, players that will lead on the field are being brought into the club .
Another apples to oranges argument, shocker. Arteta was a concern because of a lack of experience, but that could’ve been mitigated to an extent by having a number 2 steeped in…….experience
What a tremendous pivot. Never heard you mention experienced number two before. Look we’re rehashing old arguments
dissenter
players that will lead on the field are being brought.
licht won’t be on the field. maybe he’ll be the leader in training…
Dissenter
He is not signed as first team starter. You talk as if this warrior is going to be a permanent presence in the side. He isn’t going to be.
fellaini and nzonzi next and we might just win that relegation battle…
How dare you put the mop head and N’Zonzi in the same sentence.
Ishola
There’s a reason why Emery has made Lich his first signing. He needs tested leaders. You think his he’s here because he doesn’t want to move his family away from Europe while I say he’s here because he is seeking a new challenge.
There are easier ways to earn 44-50k weekly for a veteran like Liechtensteiner than to join a Europa league team in a maddening tabloid environment. .
Then how can you explain Dissenter why he was being subbed for the majority of the time in Serie A season just gone?
I mean there was a reoccurring pattern there.
He’s bought as back-up to Bellerin.
Ishola
Yes, Lich is bought as a back-up for Bellerin.
My point is that if Bellerin does not shape up and puts in those atrocious performances then he will be backing up an old man.
Bellerin has been mainly crap for two seasons….his supplanting will happen more quickly that you realize.
Marko
No you’re rehashing old arguments because you’re a petulant twat who throws his toys out the pram daily.
You mentioned Arteta, not me.
All because you can’t wrap your head around the numbingly obvious. Lichtsteiner is a smart addition to a team that needs experience, needs another Rb, and has a budget.
How can Licht supplant him though Dissenter on a permanent basis?
Bellerin will get a slap on the wrist dropped for a few games for Licht and then return. Licht meanwhile after covering for three games on the trot will be looking for the nearest oxygen mask.
Ishola “Then how can you explain Dissenter why he was being subbed for the majority of the time in Serie A season just gone?” We are not juventus. We are a team playing in the Europa league who finished 37 points behind the winners and 12 points behind fourth place. We have started Bellerin as our number one RB even though he can’t dribble his man, he can’t use his much vaunted speed to his advantage, can’t cross a ball properly and is positionally challenged. That’s the Arsenal Lich is coming to, not the club that’s won 7 consecutive league… Read more »
Ishola
You keep talking about ‘PERMANENT BASIS’
What does that even mean?
You can only account for the 2018-2019 season for now.
Dissenter
Licht started 21 games though for Juve so it wasn’t a case that they thought he was not good enough to start matches.
Where the problem occurred was him seeing out the 90 minutes.
Don’t get me wrong I haven’t been impressed with Bellerin and if someone was signed that looked likely to challenge and take his first team place then I would be for it but Licht doesn’t look to be that player.
Juve were selecting him to start matches but subbing him most times.
That says the old fella is starting to slow down.
Ishola
Old players don’t usually start games. The young guns are typically started and the older guy comes on later.
However he started 21 key games ahead of his replacement, Mattia De Sciglio.
Mattia De Sciglio only started 10 games and had half the minutes Liechnsteiner got all season.
Lichstenier got MORE MINUTES than his replacement… got that?
You are misusing the stats my friend He was replaced not just for fatigue but because the new guy needs minutes too.
Ishola
Theo always used to get subbed, Podolski too. You’re overselling a banal stat.
As dissenter says, Lichtsteiner can play for 60-70 mins then we can bring on Bellerin for his pace in the final 20.
Plus you noted he played 9 full league games this past season, so would that be a bad return for a backup too start a quarter of the league games this next again season? Hardly. You’re reaching
I don’t mind this signing, we have a promising right back in the u-23s that is not quite ready, Osei-Tutu, this will give him time to learn the ropes and hopefully him and Bellerin can both learn something from Licht.
If not at least we can postpone that decision a year or 2 and focus on other positions now.