PODCAST: The extreme pragmatism of Sven and Emery

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We are BACK in the podcast game.

On the show we talk about:

  • How excited we are about having a manager with a plan
  • What our hopes are for his first season
  • What we think the manager can take from his past experiences
  • How he deals with the players
  • What the bland transfers say about our summer policy

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203 Responses to “PODCAST: The extreme pragmatism of Sven and Emery”

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  1. Marko

    Oh dear, the resident FIFA player hasn’t a clue about the benefits of experience…

    Says the guy who made so many arguments for Arteta being manager. All for the sake of being a contrary twat. It’s funny I seem to remember you not long ago making a case for selling Bellerin Charles. Anyway I’m sure you’ll deny it. Good lad

  2. Marko

    Why have they signed him then Marko ? Is he going to be first choice ?

    Why have they signed Licht? I’m guessing because he’s free and we’re not a serious club anymore.

    If you surround yourself with winners it pays off mate.
    What RB has coached Bellerin since he has been here ?
    Most senior players coach the youngsters even though they are playing still

    Liverpool I think everyone will agree has a really promising RB in Alexander Arnold and he’s being “coached” by the senior RB eh Clyne. So your point isn’t really a point. A young RB doesn’t need an experienced RB in order to improve

  3. Dissenter

    Juventus started out their rebuild with seeking free transfers around Europe. We are following the same path.
    I wont be surprised if Liechtensteiner supplants Bellerin as number one in that position. There’s a reason why he’s not taken the Chinese route. He still has some life in those old legs.
    Dani Alves was the same age when he went to PSG and became their main RB.

    We need more experienced free transfers, including Fellaini.
    We are building a proper squad, not the Wenger make-belief squad of giving old crocks like Mertascaker or young ones that aren’t ready to play squad numbers.

  4. Champagne charlie

    Marko

    Yea I made a case for Arteta signing because I’m capable of assessing what’s in front of me. I still preferred Allegri, I could merely recognise the merit in Arteta. Good point though, super relevant……

    Selling Bellerin? Yep, would happily do so if Barca were offering 50 mil because you can replace him for less than that, and put the money elsewhere in the side. There’s also been a doubt about his commitment given he wanted out last summer. Fact is however, he wants to be here now, wanted the number 2 shirt, and is ready to go again under new management. So over to you Hector.

    As such I’m absolutely fine with giving him a buffer in the form of an experienced player who’s captain of his national side, has 99 caps, 7 Serie A titles, 5 Coppa Italias, and comes for free so we can focus the money elsewhere.

    You continue your daily hissy fit though because he’s not some 21 year old with mental FIFA potential.

  5. Ishola70

    Dissenter

    “There’s a reason why he’s not taken the Chinese route.”

    He actually said his family doesn’t want to move away from europe.

  6. Dissenter

    The pl,an seems to get free transfers of experienced players to make up the squad of 25 players, then save the money for 1-2 major transfers.
    The new manager does not have the eternal gratitude of Arsenal. He has to get going from day one hence the preference for experienced players.

  7. Marko

    Dissenter that is all well and good but not all leagues are the same. It’s very plausible to think a 34 year old RB who made 21 appearances in Italy last year probably only finished 90 minutes a handful of times will struggle to make an impact in the English premier league. Hard to imagine he starts over Bellerin more often than not

  8. Dissenter

    Ishola
    Lichsteiner played 27 games for Juventus. He was offered a contract renewal and wanted to do something else.
    He’s going to be our number one RB very quickly because he’s better than Bellerin. How old is Dani Alves again????

  9. Dissenter

    CC
    We need to asterisk your moniker for the full throat-ed endorsement of Arteta :-)
    Aren’t you surprised that Real Madrid don’t have Arteta on their short list?

  10. Marko

    Yea I made a case for Arteta signing because I’m capable of assessing what’s in front of me. I still preferred Allegri, I could merely recognise the merit in Arteta. Good point though, super relevant……

    You argue a case for an experienced RB but argue for an inexperienced manager over a more experienced manager. Quite relevant shows you as someone who just argues for arguing sake

    You continue your daily hissy fit though because he’s not some 21 year old with mental FIFA potential.

    He’s actually got good potential in the game. You keep lapping up whatever shite your given and arguing with everyone

  11. Ishola70

    Dissenter he started 21 games in Serie A and only completed 90 mins on 9 occasions.

    How many games of 90 mins did Alves complete before his most recent move?

    You are obviously making things up as you go along because Lichtsteiner clearly stated to the press that he had no intention of moving away from europe because his family did not want to leave the continent.

  12. Dissenter

    Marko
    I think you’re understating how bad Bellerin has been for two seasons. All it will take will be 1-2 games of seeing what a proper RB looks like for Bellerin to be dropped.
    I keep asking, how old is Dani Alves again?

  13. Marko

    Right exactly my point Dissenter if Bellerin is that bad then why not replace him? This isn’t replacing him. No way

  14. Champagne charlie

    Dissenter
    Where was the full blown endorsement of Arteta? I said it was an exciting possibility, but didn’t dismiss the potential pitfalls whatsoever. I also preferred Allegri, so that in itself makes a mockery of your comment.

    Marko
    Another apples to oranges argument, shocker. Arteta was a concern because of a lack of experience, but that could’ve been mitigated to an extent by having a number 2 steeped in…….experience. See how that transfer of ideas works?

  15. azed

    “Right exactly my point Dissenter if Bellerin is that bad then why not replace him?”

    1) Bellerin is bad because of the coaching. Our defence in general has been terrible.
    2) Bellerin is 22 and there’s a very big chance he will improve drastically with better coaching
    3) We don’t have unlimited money so we need to make smart purchases. Better to get a freebie like Lich and spend the scarce money upgrading other places.

  16. azed

    Its the same reason why the club is going after Socrates. When it comes to defence, better coaching trumps individual talent.

    Player by Player, we have far talented defenders than Burnley but as a team, they have a better defence than us. That is down to coaching and work on the training ground.

    So the club is going the route of getting experienced defenders who know what it means to work as a team and know what defending means while saving the limited funds for other places.

  17. Ishola70

    azed it is also because of their style of football not just coaching.

    Burnley may have a better defensive record by far as well but they also are well behind Arsenal in scoring goals themselves.

  18. azed

    Ishola

    Their style of football is dictated by the players they have. Our attack is good, Midfield unbalanced and defence poor.

    Just coaching alone would improve our defence by at least 20%.

  19. Ishola70

    Maybe it would but Burnley had a much better defensive record than Arsenal season just gone because of the way they set up and play. Park the bus, counter. Coaching is in it as well but if you sit back and contain for long periods then you can get a better defensive record.

    Such play would not be tolerated at Arsenal.

  20. Ishola70

    Azed

    If Arsenal go the route of Burnley next season and park the bus and look for counters inbetween then maybe Arsenal can match their defensive record lol.

  21. Ishola70

    Burnley also had Cork and Defour sitting in front of the defence while Arsenal had in midfield the Regista Xhaka and the secondary striker Ramsey in midfield lol

  22. gonsterous

    the sad news is, every time lichsteiner starts a game, we have to have a RB in the bench and we have to sub him out… the pensioner will be out of breath running for 60mins…

  23. azed

    “Burnley also had Cork and Defour sitting in front of the defence while Arsenal had in midfield the Regista Xhaka and the secondary striker Ramsey in midfield”

    I would rather the club spend money replacing Xhaka with a proper DM and buying another box to box midfielder than spending 20M to buy someone to compete with Bellerin.

    Can you now see that the Licht is a good signing?

  24. gonsterous

    I do see the positives in this signing though. let’s get the other over 30s signings done too…

  25. azed

    “If Arsenal go the route of Burnley next season and park the bus and look for counters inbetween then maybe Arsenal can match their defensive record”

    We don’t need to pack the Bus, we just need everyone to know their defensive responsibilities. Also we have better Midfielders than Burnley or half of the EPL so we can control games.

    Against the top 6, I’m fine with packing the Bus.

  26. Dissenter

    In the past, the experienced/veteran spot would have been filled by an “internal solution” of crocked players like Rosicky,Arteta, Mertascaker or Cazorla.

  27. Dissenter

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  28. azed

    “the sad news is, every time lichsteiner starts a game, we have to have a RB in the bench and we have to sub him out… the pensioner will be out of breath running for 60mins…”

    No really, we can switch to 3 at the back. Also, against the bottom teams, we don’t need him bombing forward.
    Y’all have been wengerised for so long, football can be fluid so much so that when we have the ball, we can line up with 3 at the back with the Licht becoming a third CB while the LB moves up to join the midfield.

  29. Ishola70

    azedJune 5, 2018 17:10:27
    “Can you now see that the Licht is a good signing?”

    Could be useful on occasions but really the signing confirms that Bellerin is top dog still at RB.

    Licht only completed 90 mins on 9 occasions in Serie A season just gone and there is a reason for that. And it’s not because he has loads of life left in those legs as Dissenter told us.

  30. Dissenter

    We have just brought in a player with almost 100 capos for Switzerland. He’s the captain of his country and would have played in two world cups and two European Championships by the time he starts his first game for Arsenal.
    The days of nice boys in the defense are over. There will be accountability, players that will lead on the field are being brought into the club .

  31. Marko

    Another apples to oranges argument, shocker. Arteta was a concern because of a lack of experience, but that could’ve been mitigated to an extent by having a number 2 steeped in…….experience

    What a tremendous pivot. Never heard you mention experienced number two before. Look we’re rehashing old arguments

  32. gonsterous

    dissenter

    players that will lead on the field are being brought.

    licht won’t be on the field. maybe he’ll be the leader in training…

  33. Ishola70

    Dissenter

    He is not signed as first team starter. You talk as if this warrior is going to be a permanent presence in the side. He isn’t going to be.

  34. Dissenter

    Ishola
    There’s a reason why Emery has made Lich his first signing. He needs tested leaders. You think his he’s here because he doesn’t want to move his family away from Europe while I say he’s here because he is seeking a new challenge.
    There are easier ways to earn 44-50k weekly for a veteran like Liechtensteiner than to join a Europa league team in a maddening tabloid environment. .

  35. Ishola70

    Then how can you explain Dissenter why he was being subbed for the majority of the time in Serie A season just gone?

    I mean there was a reoccurring pattern there.

    He’s bought as back-up to Bellerin.

  36. Dissenter

    Ishola
    Yes, Lich is bought as a back-up for Bellerin.
    My point is that if Bellerin does not shape up and puts in those atrocious performances then he will be backing up an old man.
    Bellerin has been mainly crap for two seasons….his supplanting will happen more quickly that you realize.

  37. Champagne charlie

    Marko

    No you’re rehashing old arguments because you’re a petulant twat who throws his toys out the pram daily.

    You mentioned Arteta, not me.

    All because you can’t wrap your head around the numbingly obvious. Lichtsteiner is a smart addition to a team that needs experience, needs another Rb, and has a budget.

  38. Ishola70

    How can Licht supplant him though Dissenter on a permanent basis?

    Bellerin will get a slap on the wrist dropped for a few games for Licht and then return. Licht meanwhile after covering for three games on the trot will be looking for the nearest oxygen mask.

  39. Dissenter

    Ishola
    “Then how can you explain Dissenter why he was being subbed for the majority of the time in Serie A season just gone?”

    We are not juventus.
    We are a team playing in the Europa league who finished 37 points behind the winners and 12 points behind fourth place.
    We have started Bellerin as our number one RB even though he can’t dribble his man, he can’t use his much vaunted speed to his advantage, can’t cross a ball properly and is positionally challenged.
    That’s the Arsenal Lich is coming to, not the club that’s won 7 consecutive league titles.

  40. Dissenter

    Ishola
    You keep talking about ‘PERMANENT BASIS’
    What does that even mean?
    You can only account for the 2018-2019 season for now.

  41. Ishola70

    Dissenter

    Licht started 21 games though for Juve so it wasn’t a case that they thought he was not good enough to start matches.

    Where the problem occurred was him seeing out the 90 minutes.

  42. Ishola70

    Don’t get me wrong I haven’t been impressed with Bellerin and if someone was signed that looked likely to challenge and take his first team place then I would be for it but Licht doesn’t look to be that player.

    Juve were selecting him to start matches but subbing him most times.

    That says the old fella is starting to slow down.

  43. Dissenter

    Ishola
    Old players don’t usually start games. The young guns are typically started and the older guy comes on later.
    However he started 21 key games ahead of his replacement, Mattia De Sciglio.
    Mattia De Sciglio only started 10 games and had half the minutes Liechnsteiner got all season.
    Lichstenier got MORE MINUTES than his replacement… got that?
    You are misusing the stats my friend He was replaced not just for fatigue but because the new guy needs minutes too.

  44. Champagne charlie

    Ishola

    Theo always used to get subbed, Podolski too. You’re overselling a banal stat.

    As dissenter says, Lichtsteiner can play for 60-70 mins then we can bring on Bellerin for his pace in the final 20.

    Plus you noted he played 9 full league games this past season, so would that be a bad return for a backup too start a quarter of the league games this next again season? Hardly. You’re reaching

  45. Freddie Ljungberg

    I don’t mind this signing, we have a promising right back in the u-23s that is not quite ready, Osei-Tutu, this will give him time to learn the ropes and hopefully him and Bellerin can both learn something from Licht.

    If not at least we can postpone that decision a year or 2 and focus on other positions now.

  46. Graham62

    Lichtsteiner is a brilliant signing. Ok he’s 34 he but has the physical capabilities of someone much younger.

    Smart, intelligent, cost effective. Just the sort of player Arsenal need at this stage in their redevelopment. A leader and a winner.

    Will also be an asset for the younger players and, significantly, knows Granit Xhakas game inside out.

    Seen this guy live last season playing for Juve against Sampdoria. Very impressive.

    The doom merchants on here don’t seem to get it. Wenger’s philosophies and methods were old hat and didn’t work. I’m all for these changes and already admire Emery and the recruitment squad for looking at what we have and acting accordingly.

    A great day for AFC.

    More days to come.

  47. Dissenter

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    Ramos added: “I spoke with Salah through messages, he was quite good. He could have played on if he got an injection for the second-half, I have done it sometimes but when Ramos does something like this, it sticks a little bit more”