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One of the main men with that golden Arsenal info, Jezza Wilson, has penned a piece that says Arsenal might opt for a cheaper manager. The article basically reiterates what I’ve been telling you for a while, the club don’t necessarily want an all-conquering king to replace a king. The club want a manager who can fit into a system, can coach players, and work with a lower budget.

His shortlist of names is the list we’ve been rocking here at Le Grove. Allegri, Nagelsmann, Arteta, Paddy and Jardim. I’m game for any of those, bar Vieira. I really don’t fancy him, unless it’s as part of the backroom team.

There goes my chance of interviewing him for The AO podcast anytime soon.

The Telegraph writer also pours a bit of cold water over the Buvac rumours, without totally discarding them. The exLiverpool assistant makes very little sense, he was an average manager in 2001, doesn’t like speaking to the press and by all accounts, it seems like he’s left Liverpool to tend to family matters back in Bosnia.

If he were joining Arsenal, wouldn’t he have at least waited until he’d lost in the Champions League final before departing Klopp’s side? There were some rumours he’d had a bust-up, but I think that was off the mark. You don’t tend to have mega bust-ups with people that have helped give you success, especially not at pivotal moments of the season.

Enrique seems to be showering himself in mercenary juice. He’s asking for such an extortionate salary, even Chelsea are turning their noses up at him. What a game he’s playing. I’d not be upset with him, I’d just be a touch underwhelmed.

Give me Allegri, Jardim or Nagelsmann and I’d be over the moon.

In other news, Jack Wilshere is now closer to agreeing a new deal than before. Interesting right? Wenger goes, and all of a sudden, the club is open to a deal. I was told by someone in New York who knew people around Jack that he wasn’t much of a fan of the coach, so it makes sense that now he’s gone things are looking more positive. It’d be great to hire a manager who could extract the most from him. He’s still relatively young, could be a great turnaround project.

I was fed a tidbit that Ramsey signing on isn’t looking very positive right now, it’s not come from a source pure enough to extract spring water, but you could take a drink there and no one would die. Take from it what you will. I know Danny W and Cech are also waiting to see who the next manager is, likely just to see if they’re wanted. Just jokes, Danny has been great of late, Mr Cech, not so much. But he’d make a great coach. One of the greats, so we’ll see.

Outside that, I have very little.

SEE YOU IN THE COMMENTS.

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Rambo Ramsey

gambon,

Between Xhaka and Coquelin, I know who I’d rather have in midfield. Xhaka was a disaster signing. Should have just stuck it with Coquelin until Wenger left, atleast our goals-conceded numbers wouldn’t make for embarrassing reading.

Wallace

gambon

““I’d like an athletic CM with good defensive awareness and passing skills alongside Xhaka with Ramsey ahead of them.”

”Where does Ozil play?”

where he does now, on the right of the front 3. starting position anyway…

T

Gambon you think that Ramsey is great? Stop joking man 😀 if the club can fetch a decent fee of him next summer he should be sold immediately.

The one 3 month period when he seemed “world class” was back when per and kozz where at the peak of their powers and ozil, arteta and rvp did all the work for him. The only thing he had to do was run from box to box and tap in perfect passes %D once the team faded from around him there has been nothing left ever sinse…

WengerEagle

If Liverpool manage to pull off winning the Champions League, they are going to be in an incredibly strong position to make a title challenge next season.

Naby Keita coming in summer already and who wouldn’t want to join the European Champions managed by Klopp after that?

Firmino has already extended, that’s the first big hurdle for them sorted in tying up their front 3.

Leftsidesanch

Bob who I suspect is a loved one of Lauren Neal is back on form I see!

Rambo Ramsey

Eagle, there’s no chance Liverpool beat Madrid. Klopp is a serial loser in finals and these Liverpool players have no winning experience. Up against their worst match-up, a Madrid side that has better players with bucket-loads of winning experience.

These factors will make a telling difference. Liverpool players will find their shots missing by a few feet, tackles off by a few microseconds, goalie making fumbles while Madrid will be calm and efficient in their play.

WengerEagle

RR

Yeah would be inclined to agree with all that.

Still, in Finals you never know. Just look over the years, Chelsea getting battered by Bayern Munich for 120 mins and sneaking it on PK’s, Liverpool themselves in Istanbul against the outstanding Milan side of the mid-noughties.

But yeah, odds should be strongly in RM’s favour and I’m backing them to clinically dispose of Liverpool.

Champagne charlie

Madrid are only in the competition because Bayern couldn’t finish a packed lunch.

Madrid are giving up fat too many opportunities to be certs in the final. Give up half the number to Salah and co. and it’s night night Real.

Klauspoppe

Dream would be to replace Ramsey with Saul… not that we can afford him. Buyout clause is 200m after signing a 10 year extension.

Romford Pele

Honestly Madrid have been so jammy in the CL these last few years it’s unreal. Obviously you have to admire the fact they’re so consistent but they’ve had huge slices of luck. It’s why I can’t really rate Zidane despite the fact he’s gonna win a CL for the third time in a row. He has a huge proliferation of talent at his disposal but they don’t exactly have a distinct playing style for the level of quality they have.

Wallace

if it wasn’t the final I’d be pretty confident in Liverpool beating them. will depend if Liverpool can play it like a normal game.

WengerEagle

Saul strikes me as an Atleti lifer tbh.

Same as Gimenez.

Rambo Ramsey

Charlie,

Madrid took their opportunities, Bayern flopped. You really don’t think mentality and experience has any bearing here? Same way Juve knocked out the Spuds.

Wallace

love watching Firmino play #9 but would worry Ramos might be able to provoke him with his usual bullshit.

Romford Pele

Yeah Saul signing that lifetime contract with Atleti. He ain’t going anywhere.

WengerEagle

I’d say Real have been fortunate this season, certainly were last night with that Marcelo one a clear handball and Bayern largely had them on the ropes but just failed to make it count. I think that the penalty decision against Juventus was the correct one, they were fortunate from the sense that they were battered at home and still snuck through. Last season I think that they were just the superior side in all their ties though, they bettered Juventus, Atleti and Bayern over the 5 matches. But yeah, strange to think that Pep’s great Barcelona side never won… Read more »

logie bear

I get the feelings for Arteta, but why is he not in the frame for the Rangers job, as he played there too didn’t he?

And as someone pointed out recently, he spent more time with Everton than with us, so why the feeling that he is such an AFC man through and through

So give me Viera any day rather than Arteta (if we go down the former player route, that is)

Champagne charlie

Rambo

Of course it has a bearing, but to write it off as no chance is mental. Real Madrid are nothing close to imperious, and Klopps style is one of a few that can really upset spanish sides.

Will Real be more at home? Yes absolutely. Will Liverpool overcome that stage fright and produce their game at some stage? I think yes absolutely, which spells big trouble for a team that’s dogshite at the back. Klopps record with Liverpool against big sides is impressive, they rise to those challenges moreso than consistently cracking stubborn bottom feeders.

Klauspoppe

“There isn’t a single player outside Messi who doesn’t have a weakness in their game”

There is Saul.

We need to see Saul freed from Simeone’s system and play with more freedom. Haven’t seen a complete package like him in a long time.

Romford Pele

Madrid were very lucky against Bayern last season in the quarters too. Won in extra time after loads of decisions went their way…. AGAIN

WengerEagle

Barcelona should have won 4 Champions Leagues in a row from 2008-2012 tbh. That SF loss to Chelsea was the biggest CL fluke that I’ve ever witnessed over 2 legs, Barca literally could have scored abut 5-6 goals at SB and Ramires scores a once in a career type dink on the run in Camp Nou to pretty much ice the game. Inter Milan put up a much more even contest but they were defending for their lives the entire 2nd leg and were camped out in their third for most of it, Bojan also scored a goal that was… Read more »

Champagne charlie

Logie

Arteta played at Rangers but they’re at a woeful level, it’s be a step down to manage them from his current position.

And yes, he played longer at Everton but he reached the pinnacle of his career at Arsenal ending with the armband and widespread respect at one of Europe’s biggest clubs. He’s an Arsenal man now, only normal he’d be in the reckoning.

WengerEagle

RP

Even with that noted, they were superior in their SF/Final so it’s not like they fluked their way to the CL title.

If we’re playing that game too then Barcelona shouldn’t have won the 2009 CL, Chelsea had an obscene amount of decisions go against them including two blatant penalties at the end of the match.

Rambo Ramsey

Barcelona the only side that could put an end to Madrid’s insane winning run in the CL. Shame they never come face to face in knockout rounds.

Klauspoppe

“Barcelona should have won 4 Champions Leagues in a row from 2008-2012 tbh.”

In 10 years time we’ll still have vivid memories of the football played by this team than what RM have produced last 3 seasons.

HighburyLegend

“the pinnacle of his career at Arsenal”

Indeed, what a “pinnacle”
lol

WengerEagle

I love Saul but wouldn’t go that far on him yet.

Needs to add more goals to his game.

Romford Pele

Eagle, I can’t bear it with Madrid though man. At least Barca were vastly superior to their opponents, even when they had decisions go for them. This Real Madrid side would get slapped by prime Barca.

In fact, even this Barca side should be ashamed of themselves with the amount of money they’re spent at how inefficient they are.

HighburyLegend

“He’s an Arsenal man now”
Nope, he’s a Man City man.

WengerEagle

‘Barcelona the only side that could put an end to Madrid’s insane winning run in the CL. Shame they never come face to face in knockout rounds.’

Agreed, said as much before the draw was made.

Barcelona are the only side in Europe that have Real’s number mentally. You look at their H2H record over the last 3 years even and Barcelona dominate it.

Romford Pele

As well as Barca have done going unbeaten this season, they really have f***ed up in not replacing Iniesta and Xavi properly. Rakitic/Paulinho/Coutinho/Andre Gomes etc are all poor imitations. What were they doing when Madrid were buying the likes of Ceballos and Kovacic? Messi isn’t going to be around forever so they really need to maximise this period while they still have the cheat code available.

Wallace

player by player Madrid are very impressive, and he’s got them playing as a team, pretty much, but a team that’s less than the sum of its parts.

WengerEagle

RP I think that you’re being harsh on RM, they slapped Juventus in the Final and Atleti in the SF, putting 3 and 4 goals past the two best defensive sides in Europe. I ironically think that RM were unlucky over the years up until their 2nd UCL win in 2016 not to win more, they are the most consistent team in that they make the SF every season and in 2011/12 they lost on PK’s to Bayern after bettering them for the 120 mins, in 2012/13 Dortmund got fortunate in the end that RM didn’t prevail after they were… Read more »

Klauspoppe

RP

Same applies to RM when they lose CRonaldo and Modric.

If anything Athleti have the best midfield in Spain but in a system not utlising their personnel to full potential.

WengerEagle

I do think when all is said and done that Barcelona will look back with regret at the period 2012-2018 for what they accomplished in Europe.

With prime Messi/Xavi and Iniesta and then Suarez/Neymar they only won 1 CL title out of the last 7 attempts.

Was their best ever chance to close the gap on Real Madrid and now there’s the real possibility that RM will win their 3rd in a row and 4th out of the last 5.

WengerEagle

‘If anything Athleti have the best midfield in Spain but in a system not utlising their personnel to full potential’

Not for me.

Saul is their outstanding player but after him you’re left with an over the hill Gabi, Thomas and Koke who’s seriously overrated.

alexanderhenry

Dissenter

Agreed on ramsay. He divides opinion, and to be can be far too unpredictable, but I’ve always rated him.

Also I think some big names will actually be in for him. Arsenal will have to offer a very big wage increase to keep him

Romford Pele

Eagle – yeah you’re right on all those counts but f**k Real Madrid, I hate them! Don’t think you can say they’re unlucky though. I mean this is the team who are part-owned by the Spanish Government and have broken the transfer record how many times? The least they should be doing is reaching the SF every season with the proliferation of talent they have at their disposal. I don’t feel any sympathy towards them. “Btw seems strange to me that loanees are allowed to play against their parent club in the CL, James is now the third player in… Read more »

Klauspoppe

WE

“Why is there no clause against it?”

I think it’s fair since IF James played 1 game for RM in CL group stages and then loan transferred to Bayern, he wouldn’t be eligible to play in CL at all…

WengerEagle

Messi’s a once in a lifetime player so hard to envisage how Barca (5 titles) bridge the gap to RM’s 12/possibly 13 CL titles now.

alexanderhenry

‘to be fair’

Kay

Wanker about to f**k off and all the old grovers come back.
He had single handedly sucked out the interest for a good 8 yrs atleast.

Romford Pele

Klauspoppe – Nah Real Madrid still have the best crop at their disposal. Look at Kroos, Modric, Kovacic, Ceballos, Isco, Asensio and Casemeiro. There isn’t a better crop at club level IMO.

Only really rate Thomas, Koke and Saul for Atleti. A better manager would make them more expansive but we were absolutely pamming them, even before the sending off.

Rambo Ramsey

Madrid beat the best team in France, Italy and now Germany to get to the Finals. Not sure why people expected them to thrash and waltz their way against those sides.

Romford Pele

“Messi’s a once in a lifetime player so hard to envisage how Barca (5 titles) bridge the gap to RM’s 12/possibly 13 CL titles now.”

AC Milan were the best positioned but they’re a shambles now. And when Gattuso is your manager, I think that says a lot.

WengerEagle

RP Haha fair, meant from the playing perspective, as a club I agree, fuck them. Always have preferred Barcelona which is why it frustrates me to see Messi and company limp out at the QF stage season after season. But you have to say that RM have assembled the much stronger squad over the last few years than Barcelona have, I mean they have a player out on loan in James making an impact in a CL SF with the likes of Bale and Isco not even playing. Just seems strange to me that they wouldn’t protect themselves against it… Read more »

Romford Pele

Sky Sports and France Football saying that Vieira won’t be considered for the job.

WengerEagle

Klaus

Did the transfer not happen before the season began though?

WengerEagle

RR

Yep and the wins vs PSG and Juventus were both deserved over the 2 legs.

Bayern have the right to feel hard done by, just like last season.

WengerEagle

RP

Milan should have won the CL in 2004 and 2005, Istanbul and Deportivo comebacks were both outrageous. Although in 2004 I also argue that we should have won it given that we were the outstanding side in Europe.

When Barca won their 5th title in 2011 I genuinely thought that they could catch RM on 9 given Messi was only 23/24 and Xavi and Iniesta were so dominant.

Hard to believe that RM have pulled away so far, doubt anybody in our lifetime will catch them now.

Klauspoppe

WE

I can’t make logical sense of the fact a player is not eligible for CL for two teams if they were transferred.

I don’t see any harm in James playing against RM. At least in domestic games you’re guaranteed to play against parent team at least twice in the season and can preempt this.

What are the odds in CL though?

WengerEagle

Bit like Nadal and Djokovic chasing Federer, both looked nailed on at one point to surpass the Swiss man with Nadal’s being 4 years ago once he won his 14th GS title in the French and Djokovic’s being in 2016 when he finally won the FO being his 12th title and 4th consecutive GS title. Federer had won 17 GS title at both points and was on the wane. Against all odds, the 29 year old Djokovic fell off a cliff, the 28 year old Nadal went through his worst ever period of tennis and the rejuvenated 35 year old… Read more »

Doublethink

What do people think of Villareal’s Rodri for the holding role and/or Lucas Torreira for the B2B?

WengerEagle

Klaus

Well given that it’s Bayern Munich and not just anyone and the fact that they had played them in a 2 legged affair in 3 of the last 6 CL’s, there was a 50% chance that James would play twice against them at some point in the CL if you go by the last dozen years.

WengerEagle

*half dozen years

gambon

Doublethink

Rodri has signed for Atletico I think.

Klauspoppe

Rodri is definitely one for the future. He has the potential to be regarded in the likes of Busquets and Xabi Alonso.

However prefer Illarramendi over him for now.

Biggles

WengerEagle – whether anybody catches Real Madrid in terms of CLs won depends on what UEFA do with the competition. They are making it ever more insular and ever harder for other clubs and leagues to be competitive. If you keep entry exclusive to big teams from big leagues, you’ll see ever more dominance from those same clubs and it’s not hard to imagine that Bayern, Barcelona, Man Utd etc all rack up a lot more wins in the next 10-20 years. Maybe not enough to catch Real Madrid since they’ll no doubt win it more as well, but enough… Read more »

Klauspoppe

“Rodri has signed for Atletico I think”

Going back to Atletico for €20M in the Summer.

Ishola70

Doublethink “What do people think of Villareal’s Rodri for the holding role and/or Lucas Torreira for the B2B?” Good shouts. Rodri looks good don’t he. Presence, football ability, likes to dig in as well. Very good shot on him as well. Atletico Madrid sign him? Well that’s another good one Atletico nab then. Torreira is a little animal. Fans would love him. All over the pitch. High octane doesn’t begin to describe him. There might be some slight worries about his discipline the way he plays but overall he shows good concentration levels. Nice twosome there. Why don’t you apply… Read more »

WengerEagle

Biggles I get your point but we’re living in a different era, surely the fact that runners up keep winning it also proves that the strongest teams in Cup competitions would be deprived of playing CL football with the champions of every league rule? The top 5 leagues are far and away the strongest in Europe given the influx of financial power in the game, with the amount of revenue that these clubs are pulling it it’s hard to imagine UEFA opting to exclude the likes of Real Madrid, Manchester United, Chelsea, Borussia Dortmund, etc from competing. A CL with… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Arsenal do not need a Club Manager a la Arsene Wenger. That is patently obvious with the recruitment of Sanllehi and Mislintat.

What they will be recruiting is a Head Coach with more emphasis on running
the first team rather than an all embracing job.

That is why I can understand that the job is less likely to command a £8 million+ salary.

gambon

Has anyone considered that Madrids recent success is hugely driven by luck?

Cup competitions are not a good indicator of quality. The fact that Madrid may win the CL and finish 3rd suggests they are in no way Europes best team.

Arsenal have won 3 or 4 FA Cups. No one would suggest we are the best team in England.

I have picked the Grand National winner 2 years running. I am in no way good at picking winning horses.

Romford Pele

“Cup competitions are not a good indicator of quality.”

This is certainly true. Obviously getting to the final consistently does indicate that you’re a good side but it’s not always the best side that wins cup competitions, unlike the league where undoubtedly the best team wins.

Emiratesstroller

I wrote earlier today on previous thread that there are 3 players whose contracts expire this summer, but only one Wilshire where it could be renewed. However, in order to repeat previous problems caused by failure to renew contracts which have only one year left unexpired we needed to look at those of Monreal, Cech, Ospina, Welbeck and Ramsey. Frankly the only one, which I consider is urgent is Ramsey. If he does not want to sign a new contract then he should be sold this summer to avoid repeat of Ozil, Ox and Sanchez sagas. There are the usual… Read more »

Klauspoppe

“Cup competitions are not a good indicator of quality. The fact that Madrid may win the CL and finish 3rd suggests they are in no way Europes best team.”

Or has RM’s recent success in the CL make the competition underwhelming?

Doesn’t fit with the narrative of the best team winning it all and the occasional underdog fairy tale here and there.

HighburyLegend

“Has anyone considered that Madrids recent success is hugely driven by luck?”

That’s what we can call a scoop lol

WengerEagle

Lucky?

Winning the CL is incredibly difficult, so much so that we’ve literally never even won it.

It’s not a one-off match like the FA Cup, winning home and away over the course of two legs against Europe’s best teams season after season is a completely different ball game.

Cannot believe how much disrespect RM are getting on here, ridiculous.

WengerEagle

Not to mention that teams don’t take the FA Cup at all seriously, so again silly comparison.

englandsbest

When Wenger (mistakenly) bought Ozil, Ramsay became his utility player, a player that he could slot in anywhere, on the right, the left, in the middle. And that is the way Wenger has treated him ever since. No complaints from Ramsay, he is an ‘Arsenal’ player. He does what the manager tells him. Cut to the Wales side: the manager had him as the main man (apart from Bale), dictating play. And he did that marvellously. And while we’re at it, let’s remember that Jack Wilshere played deep for Roy Hodgson and England, and did it very effectively. Another ‘Arsenal’… Read more »

WengerEagle

If that’s the narrative that people are driving then Ancelotti is an overrated manager and he was largely lucky in Milan, 1 sole league title with all of that insane talent at his disposal throughout the 2000’s was a poor return.

Marko

What do people think of Villareal’s Rodri for the holding role and/or Lucas Torreira for the B2B?

Rodri’s being earmarked as Busquets long term replacement for Spain. He’s very good. Big fan of Trigueros and Fornals for them too. Massive fan of Fabian for Betis he’s brilliant. Been hugely impressed by Kondogbia and Guedes for Valencia this season too. Wouldn’t mind targeting Kondog and Fabinho to bolster our midfield. Potentially great balance there

Biggles

WengerEagle I’d rather put Real Madrid and Borussia Dortmund’s nose out of joint for a few years whilst the top clubs in the top leagues stop being a cut above big teams from elsewhere. I want Ajax, Steaua Bucharest, Benfica and Red Star Belgrade to be relevant again. Football is getting less fun than ever. In the EPL, often touted as the best league in the world, City ran away with the league by miles. In the supposedly one horse league in Scotland, Celtic didn’t win the league until Sunday there and 2-4th have no more than 3 points between… Read more »

gambon

It works both ways Wenger Eagle,

If Madrid are such an amazing team, why have they won the league only once in the last 5 years.

You cant say they are the best team in Europe if they have finished 2nd and 3rd twice each in the last 5 years.

Of course luck plays a part in all sport, literally any sport.

james wood

Jezza Wilsons comments have been followed by the same
from Sammi Morkel in the Mail.
Enrique is looking for 15million a year.
Ancelloti -Allegri would be looking for similiar.?
I hinted yesterday those managers would very
unlikely want to work with a 50m budget.
So Zeljko Buvac who worked with Sven Mislintat
at Borussia D seems a more realistic target.

WengerEagle

gambon It’s the same with AC Milan though and it’s kind of disingenuous to ignore how they only won Serie A once (in 2004, funnily enough a year that they were knocked out of the CL in the QF) in Ancelotti’s time there with players of the calibre of Kaka, Shevchenko, Pirlo, Seedorf, Maldini, Nesta, Cafu, Inzaghi, etc. There were considered the best team in Europe despite Juventus’ domestic dominance. I’m not even saying that RM are the best team in Europe, I think that it’s between them and Barcelona and it’s a matter of whether or not you value… Read more »

WengerEagle

Biggles Right but that would never happen in a million years because of the money in the game now, you’re talking about an era from decades ago when these teams were all relevent in Europe. There wasn’t the influx of foreign talent back then in the game that there is now, wasn’t there a 3 foreigners per team rule until the mid 90’s? AC Milan regularly had to leave out that beast Savicevic because of it. With a free reign now, who in their right mind from SA would want to join a club in Romania/Serbia/Switzerland over a Spanish, English… Read more »

HighburyLegend

“Of course luck plays a part in all sport, literally any sport.”
And sometimes it’s even more than just “luck”…
(lol)

Marko

The Buvac stuff is honestly just rumours from Bosnian media. He’s been linked with a job at City too. What they need another coach over there? He’s just had a falling out and the rumour mill’s in full swing. The appointment people have to realize has to be an exciting one too. It’s not just a case of now that Wenger is gone that the stadium will automatically be filled again. People have to be excited about the future

james wood

Odds checker have all the leading bookmakers odds.
have Buvac joint favourite with Allegri.

WengerEagle

Since Ronaldo’s move to Real Madrid in 2009:

Lionel Messi- 473 apps, 470 goals, 176 assists.
Cristiano Ronaldo- 435 apps, 448 goals, 119 assists.

Absurd stats.

I’m nearly more impressed by Messi’s durability given that everyone always marvels (rightly so) at Ronaldo’s ability to stay injury-free season after season and how his body holds up when Messi has actually played more football than him over the same time span.

Messi has averaged 53 matches a season, for ten straight seasons for Barcelona. That’s astounding.

Ishola70

james wood
“Odds checker have all the leading bookmakers odds.
have Buvac joint favourite with Allegri.”

That Buvac is 2/1, 3/1 favourite means nothing.

Not in this market. Odds against prices don’t mean a lot.

You see shorter odds on prices then it would be time to really think Buvac is indeed going to be next manager.

All these prices indicate atm is that the bookies do not know who the next Arsenal manager is going to be.

TR7

‘Cristiano Ronaldo- 435 apps, 448 goals, 119 assists.’

Lies, damn lies and statistics !

WengerEagle

Lol TR7, no lies or shame in saying that he’s hands down the 2nd best player of his generation only to the greatest player to ever play the game.

gambon

The best thing you can say about Ronaldo & Messi is that football will become a fairer game once theyre gone.

Its interesting to think who the next superstars of the game are going to be.

TR7

WE

Michael Schumacher has won 7 formula one championships, the most by any player in the history but he wasn’t as good as his trophy haul would suggest. Ronaldo is the footballing version of Schumacher for me. Watched him play 100s of times but never felt like saying ‘Wow ! what a player’ but that’s just me though.

WengerEagle

‘Its interesting to think who the next superstars of the game are going to be.’ Neymar. He’s already arguably been the best footballer in the world in terms of all-round output these last two years, Barcelona fans widely rated him as their most important player from early 2016 to when he left basically, despite his struggles in front of goal last season. Messi’s goal output makes it difficult to argue with him being the best but Neymar is on the cusp of really exploding imo, I have Brazil winning the WC if he’s fit. What’s interesting about Neymar though is… Read more »

Frank Mc

Gervinho?

TR7

My vote for next footballing superstar goes to Leroy Sane. I am assuming Neymar is already a superstar.

WengerEagle

TR7

Really? Not even when he scored that bicycle kick on Buffon? Come on, that was amazing.

Can’t agree with that, he’s often been spectacular and left me on the edge of my seat. Spectacular doesn’t have to mean mazy dribbles where a player skins 4-5 players, he’s 6 foot 1 so of course he’ll never produce the kind of dribbles that Messi can.

But some of his goals have been outrageous. And the way he has stepped up in big moments.

WengerEagle

Sane is a good shout.

Mad that players like Dybala are talked about as next gen tbh, he’s 24 going 25.

By that age Messi had already won 4 Ballon D’ors and 3 Champions Leagues.

TR7

Bicycle kicks, scorpion kicks etc. are instinctive goals, look spectacular when they come off but then even a Giroud or an Arnatuovic can pull those ones off once in a long while.

Romford Pele

Mbappe.

But also Ousmane Dembele. He’s never gonna be #1 while Messi is there. Arsenal, let’s go!

HighburyLegend

“football will become a fairer game once theyre gone.”

Reminds me of someone we used to know best…
(lol)

WengerEagle

The truth is that we’ve been absolutely spoilt by Messi and Ronaldo and football will suffer a lull once they slow down. Scoring expectations will have to lessen, 40 goals should still be seen as an insane amount of goals to score in a season. Messi and Ronaldo have made it seen like an easy number to hit but the reality is it’s an incredible tally to rack up. Great players such as Henry, Shevchenko, Eto’o, etc never hit it once in their career. What Mo Salah is doing is unbelievable when in comparison, it’s just a low-scoring season for… Read more »

HighburyLegend

Dembele is so overrated.

WengerEagle

TR7

What about his headed goals vs United/Barcelona/Chelsea? Or his goal vs Porto from so far out that the camera didn’t even capture it properly?

We’ve never seen a force like Ronaldo, the man is dangerous from any type of scenario around the box. He’s the best header of a ball that I’ve ever seen and it’s not even an attribute that is overly talked about him.

gambon

What about Ryan Sessegnon?

15 goals in the Championship as a 17 year old is absolutely insane.

However at this stage its hard to know if 15 goals from 54 shots points to a world class kid, or a lot of luck.

Romford Pele

“Dembele is so overrated.”

Eh?! This is why he needs to leave Barca. This mediocre season has made everyone forget he was the most sought after teen in world football. Two footed attacker who can play wide or as a #10. Quick as f**k and creative, what exactly is overrated?

Marko

Its interesting to think who the next superstars of the game are going to be.

Next generation? Mbappe certainly. Is there enough goals in Dembele? Asensio? Pulisic? Werner? Sane? Guedes? Lautaro Martinez? You would think the days of guys scoring 40-50 goals would be over once they retire but look at Salah this year.