One of the main men with that golden Arsenal info, Jezza Wilson, has penned a piece that says Arsenal might opt for a cheaper manager. The article basically reiterates what I’ve been telling you for a while, the club don’t necessarily want an all-conquering king to replace a king. The club want a manager who can fit into a system, can coach players, and work with a lower budget.
His shortlist of names is the list we’ve been rocking here at Le Grove. Allegri, Nagelsmann, Arteta, Paddy and Jardim. I’m game for any of those, bar Vieira. I really don’t fancy him, unless it’s as part of the backroom team.
There goes my chance of interviewing him for The AO podcast anytime soon.
The Telegraph writer also pours a bit of cold water over the Buvac rumours, without totally discarding them. The exLiverpool assistant makes very little sense, he was an average manager in 2001, doesn’t like speaking to the press and by all accounts, it seems like he’s left Liverpool to tend to family matters back in Bosnia.
If he were joining Arsenal, wouldn’t he have at least waited until he’d lost in the Champions League final before departing Klopp’s side? There were some rumours he’d had a bust-up, but I think that was off the mark. You don’t tend to have mega bust-ups with people that have helped give you success, especially not at pivotal moments of the season.
Enrique seems to be showering himself in mercenary juice. He’s asking for such an extortionate salary, even Chelsea are turning their noses up at him. What a game he’s playing. I’d not be upset with him, I’d just be a touch underwhelmed.
Give me Allegri, Jardim or Nagelsmann and I’d be over the moon.
In other news, Jack Wilshere is now closer to agreeing a new deal than before. Interesting right? Wenger goes, and all of a sudden, the club is open to a deal. I was told by someone in New York who knew people around Jack that he wasn’t much of a fan of the coach, so it makes sense that now he’s gone things are looking more positive. It’d be great to hire a manager who could extract the most from him. He’s still relatively young, could be a great turnaround project.
I was fed a tidbit that Ramsey signing on isn’t looking very positive right now, it’s not come from a source pure enough to extract spring water, but you could take a drink there and no one would die. Take from it what you will. I know Danny W and Cech are also waiting to see who the next manager is, likely just to see if they’re wanted. Just jokes, Danny has been great of late, Mr Cech, not so much. But he’d make a great coach. One of the greats, so we’ll see.
Outside that, I have very little.
SEE YOU IN THE COMMENTS.
Dembele’s class, he’s actually been better than his stats suggest for Barca.
Watched them regularly and he’s been one of their better players when he’s given the chance.
Ryan Sessegnon has been amazing this season. Absolutely an amazing prospect. Seen him a few times this year and he plays like a 27 year old not a 17 year old. Very influential already. Whoever signs him is getting a proper prospect
I don’t know about Asensio, more I watch him the more I think that he just has an asbolutely out of this world left peg on him. It really is sensational.
Rest of his game is very good but not great, he’s also not blessed with amazing athleticism.
Ajax unsurprisingly have a couple top prospects coming through at the moment. Neres, Dolberg and Justin Kluivert look brilliant
How much do you see Sessegnon going for?
We should be all over that really, English too.
Sessegnon,
£35-40m with add ons. Similar to Martial probably.
If we cant get a Bailey, Martial type player I think we should definitely do it.
Dembele isn’t really an off-the-ball runner which his probably his biggest weakness. And in a side where Messi comes deep, you don’t really need Dembele there either.
Spurs bid over 20 million for him in January apparently but Fulham said no. In this market probably about 25-35 million. He looks a proper legitimate prospect though
That’s a great investment for whoever fronts the cash.
He may even join a club that’s not top class as of yet like a Spurs tbh, if he can reproduce those kind of numbers in the Premier League from out wide he’ll fetch quite the price.
Given that he’s 17, he’s got every chance.
RP
Yeah even though Neymar was a ball to feet player too he was so good that he could also play as their outlet, which he did last season.
Eagl – Neymar adapted, he was definitely two-way. Could come short but was always looking to spin in behind and receive a lofted Messi throughball.
Still not sure PSG was a great move for him. He’s far too egotistical and sees himself way above his teammates. I get why he moved for Ballon D’Or motivations but unless he starts doing something outrageous soon, he’s not gonna get it. Needs to smash it with Brazil at the World Cup and even that might not be enough.
So, what happened to Lemar then?
Loooool
“which his probably his biggest weakness”
And he’s physically very fragile, not like Diaby but not far lol
Rambo “After shitting on Coquelin and getting ‘The Arsenal’ kind of player in Xhaka, many have now come to realize they’d rather have the no-nonsense type” Complete nonsense. Coquelin was a decent athlete and ball-winner, but he wasn’t even close to good enough with the ball. We need a CDM who’s both an athletic ball-winner and who is good on the ball, not someone who gives us the one but not the other. Xhaka is decent on the ball (though too slow) but he’s not athletic enough and he’s not a good enough ball-winner. Also, Madrid are good, but they… Read more »
Lemar shows the danger of buying players based on 1 season of good form, particularly if they play for a team that played out of their skins.
Same thing with Mahrez after 15/16.
Lemar is a good player, but £92m was a joke, im not sure what we were thinking.
He doesnt shoot anywhere near enough to be a £92m winger. This year he averages 1.5 shots per game, thats Iwobi levels of awful.
Dembele is very talented but I don’t think he is a smart footballer. He can do a lot of stuff with the ball but I am not sure he exactly knows what to do with it when he gets it.
RP Yeah I found it a strange move too, nothing about it really feels right other than the money side of it. He was at a club in Barcelona with a far richer history and has much more prestige in the game than the Qatari funded PSG project. I get that he was growing impatient being Messi’s sidekick but he should have imposed himself more and took over the reigns, he has the talent to do that with Messi on the wane. He’s the leader in the Brazil dressing room and has been great for them but yeah, the respect… Read more »
“Dembele is very talented but I don’t think he is a smart footballer. He can do a lot of stuff with the ball but I am not sure he exactly knows what to do with it when he gets it.”
Vicky, not you too!
Have people forgetten how good he was t BVB last season. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4YRsu0ct9o
Sessegnons a TOP NOTCH prospect who’s producing in the now. The fact that he’s still 17 is downright outrageous.
If Fulham get promoted i hope that he stays with them for a year or two playing every week in the PL. No need to move at all for now.
That would be my advice if i was his advisor.
Lemar is just like Mahrez though in that he’s actually putting up the same numbers across the board if you look right through them.
Only thing that’s dropped significantly from last season is his goals output, which has plummeted tbf.
Fair to say having two of their best forward players in Bernardo Silva and M’Bappe gutted from them has had a negative effect on the amount of chances that they have created and hence, opportunities that Lemar has had to score.
‘Its interesting to think who the next superstars of the game are going to be.’
Won’t be Neymar until he proves himself in the big games 🙂 maybe Benteke?
“He doesnt shoot anywhere near enough to be a £92m winger. This year he averages 1.5 shots per game, thats Iwobi levels of awful.” Tbh he’s really not a winger. He plays LCM for France. That suits his skillset more. He’s not the Martiakl/Dembele sort of forward that likes to take on their man. His main qualities are his passing, set piece delivery and shooting from range. He can dribble but it’s definitely not his USP. Anyway his stock would’ve taken a massive dive after this season. Still think he’s decent mind, just needs to be used right. France have… Read more »
“Won’t be Neymar until he proves himself in the big games maybe Benteke?”
You cant be serious?!
Lemar isn’t a winger, he’s got all the tools to be a central player. Noted this a few times, he’d be the type of player to be busy in midfield, but be able to burst through the lines. He’s awesome
Inshola 2/1
Is what is called a skinny price by the betting fraternity.
They must have knowledge of something to lay that price
across the board.
LOL, RP you missed a hell of a doozy a few weeks back mate!
#Neymargate
Lemar averaged 1.3 shots per game in the CL last season, nobody had a problem with it then.
Lmao, Eagle, I’m ready for Armageddon. Of all agendas, one against Neymar?!
I’ll let CC explain as he was a bystander and therefore a neutral, lol.
Basically was me and Marko going to war with Bamford over Neymar’s ability in big games after his performance at the Bernabeu for PSG.
Romford
Banford will have to fill you in on that one, its gone but never forgotten #neymargate
If you have a bit of time RP, I’d recommend you go back and read through it, date would have been RM’s 3-1 win over PSG.
Guaranteed lols.
Romford
That’s just our resident cunt (Champagne Charlie) being a cunt.
I’ll explain later when I have a moment. Don’t believe a thing he says, though; he’s a distortion artist.
“I’ll let CC explain as he was a bystander and therefore a neutral, lol.”
fair enough.. Picture a guy with a shovel and a dream to reach the earths core.
That was banford when debating how Neymar hadn’t proven himself at the very top. Although he may have an alternative reality of the situation, that’s the synopsis haha
ahahahahah exposed a nerve.
cunt is word of the day at school today apparently…
Loool come on Bamford, wasn’t your finest hour on here mate.
james wood
“Is what is called a skinny price by the betting fraternity.
They must have knowledge of something to lay that price
across the board”
No it’s not a skinny price and certainly not in next manager odds.
2/1 is double your money.
Bookies know punters can’t resist double your money.
See short odds on price for Buvac and then get worried.
Now its starting feel like le grove.
Looooool ok let me check the discourse.
If black was white.
And white was black.
BANFORD.
Would tell you it was yellow.
And calling someone a STUNT
IS OUT OF ORDER.
Inshola.
See your point i certainly would not be taking 2/1.
It’s just that bookmakers seldom get it wrong.
I got Allegri at 14-1 a couple of weeks back, cmon Maximus!
RP
March 27th was the date, not sure what prompted it but was way off thinking it was so long ago.
james wood
“See your point i certainly would not be taking 2/1.
It’s just that bookmakers seldom get it wrong.”
I think you are misunderstanding this certain market James.
These odds are not relating to a football match between two teams.
It’s a market with a fair number of runners and 2/1 or 3/1 is not anything to get sure thing about.
The bookies haven’t a clue who the next manager will be with these prices shown.
Won’t be Neymar until he proves himself in the big games 🙂 maybe Benteke?
This guy…:-)
#neymargate sounds like a fun day out sad to of missed it.
“2/1 is double your money.”
Wrong.
fair enough.. Picture a guy with a shovel and a dream to reach the earths core.
Two in a row.
If I had to describe neymargate it’d be basically a person totally wrong about something who lacked the humility to admit he was wrong and just kept on going
“2/1 is double your money.”Wrong
I’d listen to him he’s been picking grand national winners for years now
Marko
I got called a cunt for my version, wonder what you’ll get lol
‘Won’t be Neymar until he proves himself in the big games 🙂 maybe Benteke?’
Hahaha !
Talking of Benteke, I remember a debate on here perhaps in 2011-12 as to who would turn out to be a bigger star between Lukaku and Benteke. Both turned out be donkeys lol !
Double back what you put on.
Is anybody else worried about these prices shown on Buvac?
Shouldn’t be.
The other Benteke debates swirled around him vs Giroud, endless banter.
“2/1 is double your money. Wrong.”
How’s that wrong?
You get double your money plus your stake back.
“You get double your money plus your stake back.”
So triple you money then….
James Wood is right in a way though bookies seldom get it wrong.
But in this case it’s not getting it right in actually putting in this Buvac as favourite.
It’s putting him in at 2/1, 3/1 and then watch the suckers back it.
“So triple you money then….”
Lol no…
If I put 50 on at 2/1 I get 150 back. That’s not triple my money, I earned double (100 + my 50). I already had the original fifty ffs haha
No, that is literally the definition of triple your money.
Give someone £50, they give you £150.
Christ, this is really simple stuff.
Gambon
You’re earning double you melt WTF hahaha
Yes but as the inherent risk of losing your stake is the nature of the bet it is in fact tripling your money.
Weagle
That’s not how gambling goes mate, you deal in earnings and that’s it.
You won’t see many people pumping their fists putting on a tenner and getting a tenner back. Be sensible
CC
Tripling your money doesn’t mean earning three times the amount, it means increasing the amount to three times the original sum.
So if you start off with 50 quid and end up with 150 quid, you’ve tripled your sum.
From Wiki:
“Guessing heads or tails on a coin toss is the classic example of an event that has even odds. In gambling, it is commonly referred to as “even money” or simply “evens” (1 to 1, or 2 for 1). “Evens” implies that the payout will be one unit per unit wagered plus the original stake, that is, “double-your-money”.
question regarding Vieira
I know he has come out as kind of non chalant about the Arsenal job…. I would be one who would love to see him return, however, Pedro is against it.
Who is in favor of Pv4? If not, why???
Then again I was in the thick Maths class in school so I’m probably not the best person to be listening to haha.
Weagle
Lord above, this is actually a debate…
Thank you for the rudimentary maths lesson, I am aware. You’re totally missing the point of gambling though if you’re including your original stake as a win. By all means dupe yourself into believing you’ve won more.
It’s like going to Vegas with a grand, coming back with a grand….and saying you won a grand haha OK then
The lads are quite right.
I was being loose in definition when stating doubling your money. What should have been said is doubling the stake that you put on.
To double your money what see you winning on an evens bet.
Now that has been confirmed still say do not worry about this so-called favourite price for Buvac.
Unless people are keen on him but I haven’t seen that indication on here.
CC
I get your point, you just worded it wrong.
Sorry to be a pedantic git but ‘tripling your money’ and ‘winning three times the amount’ are different and was point I was making…
I got called a cunt for my version, wonder what you’ll get lol
Can’t be worse than the cunt king of cuntland which is what Eagle was called. A king though…respect
Weagle
That’s fair enough, implication is everything haha I know what you’re saying
Heavy lies the corwn of cuntland though Marko, ain’t all cunt and games here.
Marko
Hahahahahahahahah
I actually forgot about that. I’m curious what his version of #neymargate will be when he fills Romford in.
CC,
“Lemar isn’t a winger, he’s got all the tools to be a central player. Noted this a few times, he’d be the type of player to be busy in midfield, but be able to burst through the lines. He’s awesome”
For a while, I assumed you were referring to Oxlade Chamberlain.
I think many of us were unfair to Oxlade but for his injury he would be starting in the final of the CL in 3 weeks time.
They are now betting on the announcement date
of the new manager.
End of the season.
If we lose to Atletico.
After the world cup.
Summer.
These Parasite bookmakers will bet on anything.
Two flies running up a wall anyone?
After watching Pirlo be disgraced by his fellow teammate’s and Vieira in the NY “Derby” last summer taking a 7 goal beating flashing back memories of Wenger at Old Trafford. Think I can close the book on him as contender.
#Nemargate’s just getting better.
Somebody please post a link, i’ve a few minutes to kill.
‘I’m curious what his version of #neymargate will be when he fills Romford in.’
Was I the only one that found it hilarious that Bamford said that he was going to fill RP in at a later date about what happened?
Like is he going to personally send him an email explaining? LOL.
https://le-grove.co.uk/2018/03/27/wengerin-chalks-a-win-read-where-its-come-from/comment-page-3/#comments
Think page 1 it all kicked off.
Weagle
It did make me chuckle, considering he wrote a comment to tell him he’d write another one later.
Can only mean it’s going to involve a heavy reimagining, or its in the form of a powerpoint presentation attached to an email. Can only speculate at this point.
You should only really worry about falling odds if there is also the option to lay the bet, because the lay price will always be close to the reciprocal of the bet. Football transfer/managerial betting almost never allows you to lay. For example I saw Andries Jonker at 50-1, Clearly that is never going to happen, If they allowed you to lay they would give the real odds of 10000-1 or so, but by putting 50-1 they make people believe its possible. Sky Bet have done this for years, pulling tricks like suspending betting on a transfer for 24 hours,… Read more »
page 2 of that thread is hysterical
as far as I am concerned, we could put a scarecrow in the seat, providing that we have appropriate coaching staff:
GK: fuck knows
Defence: Keown
Midfield: Vieira
Attack: Henry
One needs coaches who can not only give pointers, but also teach what it means to play for AFC.
Looking Forward to this game man
Hope its all Guns blazing action packed drama from start to end like a bloody Jason Statham film.
Roma 3. 1 Liverpool.
Haaaaaaa!!!
Peeing myself.
Juan Jesus doesn’t look to be in the line-up for Roma tonight.
That’s a plus for them.
What’s Bamford said now?
Guy really needs to learn to let it go.
Watch bumford dig himself even deeper.
#NeymarGate
WengerEagle
“A CL with purely the winners of each country wouldn’t work in this day and age, you would have the same teams at the top giving an advantage to the likes of City and PSG perhaps as it would dilute the competition. It also made the competition easier to win back when because there was far less competition.”
Easier to win lol
It took Real Madrid 32 years to win their 7th European Cup/Champions league and Barcelona only won their first European Cup in 1992
Romford This is what actually happened in the episode a couple of dickheads here call “NeymarGate”. You can check the link above to see for yourself who is telling the truth about the episode and who is distorting it. I forget the exact context, but we were talking about this summer’s world cup, and the discussion we were having was on the back of Neymar’s poor performance against Madrid — a performance for which Rabiot called him out afterward. I said that I thought Neymar would be all the talk prior to the tournament this summer but that in the… Read more »
WE
BTW, I’m still formulating a wager. Don’t think I’ve forgotten or that I’m avoiding that.
Question to start that discussion, though: will Neymar be the best player at the World Cup this summer?
“This Charlie character brought it up today out of the blue because he is a cunt who likes to troll me. Indeed he is a cunt who likes to harass all kinds of people here (see, for example, his lecturing of DB10 last night on how to support Arsenal properly)” The topic was who will be the best in the world when Ronaldo and Messi leave the stage, pretty sure that was valid reason to mention Neymar and poke fun. I lectured DB10? lol of course you’d say that. I said I find the “happy for Liverpool if they win”… Read more »
This bumford fella is indeed a first grade cunt haha. Anyways, you’ve failed to update us with your weight loss regimen?
Pretty simple, I wanna see an utter demolition of Liverpool that sees them crashing out in a hot wounded mess.
I hope Liverpool get demolished, whether tonight or at the final.
Thank you Sal, I echo those sentiments tenfold.
I want to see Klopps jaw gurning like it’s at a rave in Milton Keynes
Salah has been quality, but he needs to head down the barbers
Mane scores, tie over.
Dreadful from Nainggolan there.
Game over.
Monchi, sitting next to Totti, looks exactly like Dar Adal from Homeland.