GLORIOUS FAILURE IS AN AFFRONT TO PROGRESSING STANDARDS

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Well, what an average week.

One bad decision snowballed into multiple.

The biggest problem this week was how we approached the Europa League. We went big, played a group that had been rinsed physically by the Leeds game, we didn’t win.

Then we headed into Sunday, we were forced to rest players, and our lack of depth couldn’t handle City’s quality.

We lost 1-0. That’s not bad against the best team in Europe, the problem was less about the result, it was more about the acceptance of a lesser defeat.

‘We didn’t get spanked as bad as we usually would have’ is a 2019 way to look at games. Yesterday, after going down in under 2 minutes again, we just seemed to land on the idea that losing by one goal would be acceptable.

That’s not cool.

We played our way back into the game after Sterling of all people headed in birthday boy Mahrez’s cross early on.

We were certainly asking questions of City, especially in the last 15 minutes. We were stretching their defence, we were pinning them back, we had some moments. The hope was that we might have a go in the second half.

We didn’t.

We played with fear. The whole game was predicated on caution. Odegaard rarely took a chance by turning into space. The Norwegian was not at the races, it was a timid showing from him, but again, maybe his fitness was running low after a few games in a row after very little before. Mo Elneny’s fear of vertical passing seemed to infect everyone’s confidence. Auba, clearly knackered, offered next to nothing going forward. His fake jumps for balls in the box were embarrassing. His body language was shocking at times. He offered nothing. Is it time to accept that he can’t handle three games in a week? Is it time to accept that in hardworking games like that, you need a different forward leading the line: Lacazette or Martinelli would have offered more.

Defensively, I kept on thinking, ‘wouldn’t it be nice to have ball players.’ Rob Holding was fairly decent, but he’s not really built to be spraying it around against City. Pablo Mari was supposed to be the artful of the two, he just kept passing it Holding. Hector Bellerin was deeply frustrating all day. His partnership with Pepe was horrendous, not helped by the wingers return to normal form. His first touch was horrible. His decision making wasn’t great. Then you had Tierney, not his best day out, but maybe City was too much to ask after 5 games out.

Let’s talk about Pepe. He’s just not the full ticket, is he? His runs were poor, his touch wasn’t great, his decision making was laughable… he looks like he should be a good player, I’m just not sure we’ll ever see it. I’d prefer to see Martinelli on the left and Saka coming in on the right

We also have to be very honest about this squad. It is very nothingy without Thomas Partey. You can’t expect to beat City with Mo Elneny playing next to Xhaka. It’s not the Egyptian’s fault, he’s a sound guy, no doubt, but he’s painfully limited in games that require accurate passing with an edge of boldness.

The Arteta system needs fast passing from the base and it needs someone leading the line that is fully fit. Auba couldn’t run the line, he hid from crosses, and he looked sad. Elneny is living the dream, he’s the African Carl Jenkinson, we need to move on from him.

We also need to find a strong narrative heading into the end of the season. At the moment, there’s nothing to hold onto as a fan. We’re 1 step forward, 2 back every other month. It’s exhausting. There’s progress, but it’s not wrapped in anything. Arteta keeps telling us what we already know. He needs to give us hope. He needs to show us he can give us a run or another trophy.

Ending Leicester City’s title run next week? Yes please.

Ending Jose Mourinho’s Spurs career? Double yes.

Winning the Europa League by putting Unai ‘Good Ebening’ Emery to the sword? Don’t say sexy things you don’t mean.

This season has been shit. Give us some f*cking joy. Put a run together.

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Dissenter

Chris Ceballos came to us on a ONE YEAR LOAN A lot different from coming to us at the end of January for a loan until mid-May I didn’t celebrate the win at OT because it was one tiny measly leap in my opinion. Palace and Spuds had beaten them by the time we did. Is there a trophy for wining OT? We’ve gone from doing the impossible – the invisibles to celebrating winning at OT? That’s like celebrating not losing more than one nill to city. We went on a death spiral afterwards so I hope you got some… Read more »

Nelson

Dissenter

The other day I was telling Pedro that Madrid wants to keep Ode to attract Haaland to join. Pedro tried to convince me that Madrid won’t do it and we can keep Odengaard. We’ll see. I like Odengaard.

bacaryisgod

I do admire Pedro’s optimism. Last time everyone was calling for Arteta’s head (including me) we went on a decent mini-run. Unfortunately, there’s a good chance that might have been a dead cat bounce. Pedro thinks we’ll beat Benfica, Leicester and Tottenham and then I think he set a target of 8 wins from our last 12 games. I’m not saying that’s impossible but everything would need to fall perfectly into place for that to happen (including Partey return to fitness, Auba returning to consistent form, Saka not breaking down after being overplayed). The other more likely scenario is as… Read more »

Dissenter

Nelson I wish we got Odegaard for 1.5 seasons with an option to buy or a first bid shoudl they chose to sell. That woiuld have been good. I’m fundamentally against loans that don’t serve our interests. Short term this season is gone and he has no longer term benefits since he’s off to Madrid by May. I understand that some may see it differently and I have to respect that. Madrid has designated Haarland as a must-buy because he has a clause on his contract. They will recall Odegaard,. that much is clear. It has to be said that… Read more »

Chris

Dissenter Not interested in getting into a to and throw with you as it is wasted energy and I mostly come on peace but again, not one positive vibe from you, at all. Nearly everyone here was saying Ceballos was a waste of time because it was a loan, forget the length of it, just the fact it was a loan. We may even sign him permanently this summer, rightly or wrongly. The point is, some loans can lead to a long term deal. You are just choosing to ignore this possibility. You do have different opinions, they are all… Read more »

Cheney10

Leftside: I’m not sure that Dissenter’s argument is all that strong in terms of a response. You have to look at the club’s current reality, and as much as I share your,Dissenter’s and others frustrations, we are not in a position to magic success. Our squad is simply not good enough and changing the manager without adequate investment will harvest the same results as we are seeing now. We need to give him time, give him financial support and make a proper judgement once he is not hamstrung by the mistakes of the past.

The Bard

Dissenter. Was your comment written in jest ? ‘Given time for what ?’
I think its called building a side and that takes time. I havent ever seen a successful side in the last 60+ years that didn’t take time to build. Even the greats like Clough and Paisley needed time. We’ve been a dysfunctional club for at least a decade so I think the phrase ‘given time’ is apt.

Dissenter

Chris “Negative”… says you I don’t believe the club should make 4-5 months loan of a developing player that have no option of becoming permanent when these loans will give our own developing talent less time on the field. I don’t understand how you can look back at that “not celebrating ” a win at OT and still brag about it. If not for anything, it should have sobered you up. We went into a precipitous fall after that and the team we beat went on an unbeaten run, indicating that your celebration was in fact meaningless. That’s type of… Read more »

zimmie2652

You know your club is in trouble when f*cking ESPN is shitting all over you. Those twats wouldn’t even know about the sport if Sophie Dee sat on their faces and read them the rule book. “Manchester City seemed to hardly break a sweat in dispatching Arsenal on Sunday. It finished 1-0, but it never really felt close, and an Expected Goals count of 2.09 to 0.29 rather supports this. Raheem Sterling scored straight away and Mikel Arteta’s crew never really produced anything significant in the opposition final third. For City, that’s now 18 wins in a row in all… Read more »

Globalgunner

I lost my son to being a United fan because for all the years he was growing up we never won a thing under Wenger. he was never particularly fond of football as a wee one but when he went to high school, everybody else was a United fan simply because they were winning the league literally every other season and Wenger had made us into a joke. Kids like to belong to the in crowd. Its one thing to support your local team but who do you support when you are 6000 miles from Highbury. I grew up and… Read more »

Chris

“ I don’t believe the club should make 4-5 months loan of a developing player that have no option of becoming permanent when these loans will give our own developing talent less time on the field.” ESR has been rested once since Odegaard joined, and in case you don’t want to break him (or Saka for that matter) we need to rotate and having that added quality of Odegaard is a positive thing, so unsurprised you fail to see that. We just need to find the right combination of the trio, someone earlier mentioned them swapping positions during games, that’s… Read more »

Tom

Arteta will be given time no matter the league table come May or Europa league results.
Empty stadium virtually guarantees this, but I find it interesting that the one thing that has possibly saved his job is being put forth as the one thing he’s suffered from the most.

Tom

Chris
It’s quite simple.
People who believe Arteta was the wrong appointment and is taking the club sideways at best while wasting time and resources— for which there’s been plenty evidence—won’t be celebrating single victory regardless the opponent.

Now, In not there personally but can easily understand their motives.

Chris

Tom

“ won’t be celebrating single victory regardless the opponent.”

Well I just don’t understand this mentality, sorry. A football fan being mocked for his team winning a match is just bizarre, equally as one not being able to celebrate it whilst not ignoring the bigger picture.

Paul Mc Daid

As long as we are owned by an uninterested owner we are going nowhere, Club is a joke how it is run, Nobody answers to anyone, It’s a joke off a situation.

Dissenter

Chris
I was happy and relived that we beat United for one second, one fleeting moment and my mind was switched unto the villa game because it’s a marathon, not a cup final for the OT win-trophy. I was never sad or unhappy that we won, just so that you know.

There a difference between been fleetingly happy and moving on vs wanting to stay in that OT victory moment to “celebrate” it. There’s NO significance to winning at OT in my humble opinion.

englandsbest

No excuses, we were beaten by a better side. Currently streets ahead of the rest in PL, and maybe the best in Europe. Add in that that they had a day more rest and are on an unbroken winning streak. and you could say we put up a pretty good show. We needed a nudge from Lady Luck but maybe she’s saving that for the Europa, or for next season. Does the defeat matter? Not a lot when you consider that the very best we can hope for in PL is maybe 6th spot. Can we win the Europa? Definitely.… Read more »

BlackStock

Why should fans be bothered about winning when players and the manager are not bothered.

AFC Forever

T)M

“won’t be celebrating a single victory regardless of the opponent”.

This is the type of self-entitled, ‘it’s all about me” fan that gets us all a bad name. We beat Spurs and you’re going to refuse to celebrate because you haven’t got your own way. Pathetic.

Pierre

Just watching the pre match discussion on the brighton/ palace game and it shows how well Brighton have been playing without getting the results. Their problem is up front , they are 8th for xg goals 20th for shot conversation. Defensively they are in the top 6 i think it was , so there league position is false , mainly because they have not a striker to finish off the moves. My immediate thought was , why didn’t they try and sign Eddie Nketiah, on loan at least. If anyone can finish off moves , Eddie can . It would/could… Read more »

BlackStock

Players are laughing after games and the manager is being meek in defeat.

Tom

GlobalgunnerFebruary 22, 2021 19:02:19
I lost my son to being a United fan …

————-
Then you have failed as a father my friend.
You only had one job in life in regards to your sons…….. not let them become United supporters.

As for daughters………not let them become strippers.
I hope you’re doing better with the latter.

Kroenkephobe

Blackstock
Aah if it were that simple…..

Kroenkephobe

Pedro and Pierre

Yes, and insist on a trade for Bissouma.

Hitman

The only thing the club has going for it is its group of talented young players. They could be a thing.
But the YTS trainee can’t see it.
Balogun, Saliba, Guendouzi are likely to be off. Martinelli being overlooked in an ominous way.
Arteta’s dealings suggest he is a petty vindictive chap. He won’t win many dressing room with that type of personality. He will be gone within 12 months.

Cheney10

I must admit that I’m not a huge fan of Eddie. It would have been good to get him a few minutes elsewhere to see if being a regular helps but I think he lacks on a technical and physical level.

I hate Green Bayg7

Three subjects to avoid with kids.
Religion.
Politics.
Football.

Pedro,

On the subject of wearing shirts, aren’t you anti anyone over twenty wearing them?

I wear mine and I’m 65

JayJay

Becoming a fan of a team from different country is always different I imagine, tell you how it was in my case. I’m from Poland, obviously I always loved football and was supporting my local team since I was 12, the very first game I went to was the last game of my club (RKS RADOMSKO ) in league 3 equivalent that gave us promotion. I witnessed another 3 promotions right to the top flight, how fucking amazing that was. We got relegated straight away and that was it, we’ve lost our sponsor and got down to conference where we… Read more »

salparadisenyc

Have to agree, can’t get behind wearing a kit post 18 unless it’s a really bad stag do in which case it may be time to question the friendship or let the booze erase all memory.

Dissenter

JayJay
Lovely story you have there

I hate Green Bayg7

I’ve said this many times and I will keep saying it.

To un-fuck a fucked organisation, things get substantially worse before they get better. And we were about as fucked as it’s possible to be.

Globalgunner

Tom dont worry he is in his 20s now and doing ok.

You can only hope your children will love what you love. Force doesn’t come into it. My red line would have been if he wanted to Support Spurs, but they haven’t won anything since before even I was born. There IS a God apparently

JayJay

Thanks dissenter,
I remember spending every night looking at that catalogue and dreaming of all that stuff I couldn’t afford

Globalgunner

I call BS on the stigma of not wearing a kit if you are over 18. In the olden days when fans still attended matches, Most 80% of said fans used to wear the kit. Most of whom are well over 18.

Nothing more appealing than a fit female in a football kit BTW

JayJay

Kris,
I know, I imagine there are some similar and better stories and I know there are some fans from different countries on this blog and would like to know their stories. The best thing is that second club to reply was Parma and third one… Blackburn rovers

Globalgunner

Kris, too true. British fans dont realise that they make up less than 20% (my estimate) of the clubs worldwide following. Big teams cannot survive on only its local support. Even the dimwits at Arsenal know this, but dont know what to do about it. Do you really think Kroenke relentlessly pursued Arsenal because of its local following?

salparadisenyc

Ødegaard signed on with Madrid thru 2023, so many variables as to what could happen but not beyond the pale to envision him signing for Arsenal if it all clicks.

I then fully expect his mate Haaland to follow.

Back to my happy place.

I hate Green Bayg7

Been thinking about yesterday. We lost 1-0 to maybe the best team in the world. They had three shots on target. If Saka hadn’t slipped, he may well have scored.

I just KNEW the amoebas would say Pep went easy on us.

The Godfather

“Matt, absolutely. Jumping ship is and always will be seen as fucking embarrassing.“

Careful now Pedro because hot jumped ship on Arteta just a few months ago while you said he was in a death spiral!

The Godfather

“You”

Tom

Good story Jay Jay.

I hate Green Bayg7

The one issue I do have with yesterday was not starting Cedric. He has been really good every time he is called upon.

Nelson

My football story is quite boring. I studied in West Germany, Gottingen and supported the local team Gottingen 05. There was no seat and only standing place inside the stadium. During the halftime break, all the gates were open, allowing fans to buy food and drinks. Being a poor student, I went to the stadium during the halftime break and watched the game free. Since there was only standing ticket, no one knew that I had no ticket.That was my first encounter of professional football. After I went back to Canada, I followed local sports, hockey, MLB and NFL. The… Read more »

salparadisenyc

Arteta bottled yesterday for me by the side he played vs. Benfica, didn’t rotate nearly enough and it showed all the way thru the XI.

I hate Green Bayg7

When we moved to Los Angeles in 1995, before the days of streaming, and you connected to the internet by landline, I was resigned to seeing the occasional game. Well, either the US has a massive Arsenal fan base or the producer at NBC was a fan, but every game was live on TV, even the league cup games!
The downside was getting up at 4.30 to watch lunch time games

salparadisenyc

Green Bay

The ole Cat n Fiddle on Sunset was the location to watch all things Premier League in the 90s into the Invincible era.

Kay

I thought Arteta was supposed to coach something that neither Wenger nor Emery couldn’t do.

Now we are bitching about not having 200mill to spend on centre halves

Yes this place has gone bonkers

JayJay

Thanks Tom, Pedro,

Fast forward and I’m here on le grove reading good posts from pedro and comments from fellow gunners, lovely, especially that where I work are only liverpool fans, only one calls himself arsenal fan, but when I messaged him after sterling’s goal, saying “fuckin perfect start” he replied “I’m not watching, no point, we’ll lose 4:0”. Arsenal fan, really?

JayJay

Nelson
No story is boring as long as we can find out how your love for arsenal started

Kroenkephobe

Agree with others that it is a nice story Jayjay. Just a shame that the capitalist fuckers at the club sent you a catalague rather than something more meaningful, eg an unsold programme. I remember my mates getting a letter from Ken Friar which they were thrilled with. That was then, this is now. Anyway glad it had the right effect.

Dissenter

I hate green bayg
“The downside was getting up at 4.30 to watch lunch time games”

How about waking up to watch lunch time games at 4.30am to listen to Alexei Lalas on Fox soccer
Fox soccer taught me how to watch football on mute or transpose it with a BBC radio commentary

Valentin

When I was young, Lyon was a non entity Football club. ASSE was the big historical club of that region. Now bar old nostalgic and kids of local fans, Lyon is the dominant club in the region. Within or Outside the Rhone area, the number of kids wearing the Lyon kit massively outstrip the number wearing the ASSE kits. Success from Lyon and lack of success by ASSE resulted in that massive shift. In London, before Abramovitch, Chelsea was viewed as a Cup team. 20 years under the Russian oligarch has brought them massive success. Most neutrals would now consider… Read more »

JayJay

Kroenkephobe
Agree mate, but let’s face it back then that catalogue meant a lot, still have it 🙃

Kroenkephobe

In London, before Abramovitch, Chelsea was viewed as a Cup team

Val
Before Abramovich, Chelsea were seen as a team that yo-yo’ed between the first and second flight. Matthew Harding helped but they had an enduring flakiness and soft underbelly that we always seemed to exploit. God love ’em…

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ihgb7

i called pep going easy on arteta weeks before the game.
little did i know how easy he would take it on him.

bacaryisgod

By the way, allowing your child to become a Man United fan is simply bad parenting. My son floated the idea of him supporting Liverpool a couple of years ago and I shot it down in an instant. It is one of my very few non-negotiables as a parent. He’s completely committed now but moaned throughout the City game, largely at Odegaard for the reason that he wanted Laca to be playing instead of him.

Winthorpe

Oh crap! I read that Odegaard has a year left this summer
It’s two years! Fucking bollocks. Ok I reckon they will go for another loan with obligation to buy. Arteta won’t spend on him this summer if he can get a loan and use the funds elsewhere
I’m certain

Guns of SF

My son knows better than to say anything other than Arsenal.
Sometimes he messes with me but quickly corrects himself when he sees my look.

I purchased the dreamcast navy “Pires” shirt for him before he was even born. LOL. Could not pass up a good deal on Ebay.

Winthorpe

One of my brother send me a picture from kids in Brazil, they were more kits of Chelsea and even Leicester than Arsenal. Time to wake up and see the reality.

Chelsea have had more Brazil’s in players. Of course they will wear more chelsea kits
They’ve had Luiz, ramires, Oscar, Willian, Diego Costa, Pato, Thiago Silva, Emerson, Alex, Belletti.

Tom

Crystal Palace CB just dealt with an identical ball Arsenal conceded from and none of their CB’s
cost £60m.
Emiratesstroller was making a case City’s CB’s cost a fortune and he’s not wrong , but no one was making a case Holding needed to be better than one of them over the span of a season, or better than them at all.
He just needed to deal with a simple ball he’s perfectly capable of dealing with against a much shorter winger not known for scoring headers.

Jamie

And we had Andre Santos.

Kroenkephobe

Bacary

Sounds like you’re better at sticking to your non-negotiables than a certain diminutive trainee football manager we sometimes (!) talk about on here.

I once tried to tell my son’s u13 team that I coached that I wanted them to play like Arsenal – they pissed themselves laughing.

Mb

Mikel Arteta looks to be one of the first benchers, who comes on time, attend all lectures, tops in all the internal exams but always comes second when it matters.

Dissenter

Testing

Dissenter

Arsenal does generate strange faces from people, ranging from polite chuckles to guffaws.
We have made more bad press than good press in the last decade.

Liverpool’s past saved them because they won big European trophies, enough to write legends and myths about
Arsenal’s history? Wenger helped with the invisibles but he stayed too long. The club needs to make sure that the story of the invincibles gets told again and again.
Most of our folk lores are local, they don’t connect well with non-UK neutrals, in my opinion

Nelson

Palace scored at the last mins.

raptora

Football is so unfair…

Socrates

Arsenal have scored just two goals in the final 15 minutes of matches this season – the joint-fewest in the league along with West Brom.

Tom

Sterling scores a header and Benteke a perfect volley
Who had that prediction before this round?

Danny

C..Palace now 2 points from us, along with Leeds, Wolves and Southampton, they’re queing up to overtake us, we could soon be back in 14th.

Emiratesstroller

Earlier today there were posts about Arsenal’s support level. First of all Manchester United’s support level was derived from two historic events. The first was the Busby Babes and the Munich Tragedy. Manchester’s second event is of course their success in 1990s and 2000s combined under Ferguson. They are recognise as the most successful club in modern era in English football. It should be mentioned that historically Man Utd were not the premier club in Manchester. Manchester City were recognised as the major local club up to 1950s. Liverpool became the major club in English Football in 1970s to 1980s… Read more »

Graham62

ES

Are we talking British clubs here?

Celtic and Rangers have massive fan bases.

Moe

Globalunner
Spot on mate…..these kids ain’t supporting no loser team at school n become the laughingstock of their mates. Hell no, not even for Daddy. The draw for Arsenal is exactly what now?

Andy1886

Stroller, I think that your view is very UK-centric. As was pointed out earlier oversees fans greatly outweigh UK based ones and have little understanding of our history. Even Wenger’s last title would precede the majority of them. Liverpool may not have won the league until last season but did win two CL’s and made two more finals. And the CL is heavily featured in overseas broadcasting.

Emiratesstroller

Graham 62

I was referring to English Clubs. Both Glasgow clubs have also got massive fan bases. These
are based on different criteria including nationalism and religion.

Andy 1886

Arsenal have got a large global fanbase particularly in Africa and Asia. The club may not
have been particularly successful in building its commercial brand, but I do think that the
team is hugely popular.

Emiratesstroller

Graham 62

Scottish Clubs appeal to people of Scottish heritage worldwide and then split between Catholic and Protestant.

What is seldom discussed in the Scottish Independence debate is that similar to Ireland the
population in Scotland decreased and even now is only marginally large than prewar levels.

Also there is far smaller immigration in Scotland when compared to England. Scotland was
for a very long time an Emigrant Country.

D

I feel really bad for the shock of disappointment you will get when Partey comes back and surprise surprise, just like in all the games he has been able to play, he performs worse than Xhaka. We aren’t missing him at all, the problem is quite simply the idea of Artetaball. We play with this fear against virtually everyone, the coward setups and the attacking stats are telling enough, and bribing Meslier to concede 3 goals is the only reason our position looks remotely respectable, but if you pay attention, you realize we’re only playing better than the bottom 4… Read more »

Tony

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/nicolas-pepe-arsenal-premier-league-23541020

Posting the link for the picture of Holding, Bellerin and Sterling in the air heading the ball.

Absolute ridiculous defending

Goobergooner

Kroenkephobe

“My three kids had no choice – when they were young I expressly avoided talking about any other teams. It was a full on propaganda job including the myth that it’s the law that kids have to support the same team as their dad.
It was self preservation. I couldn’t have handled one of them, say, making a wanker gesture in my face yesterday while wearing a load of bullshit MC paraphernalia”

This is up there with one of the funniest things I’ve read on here hahaha.

Nelson

Arteta tasted success by introducing ESR in the offense. He probably thought that he could do the same thing with Odegaard. I hope he doesn’t gamble on Odegaard in the Thursday match and gets back to the proven lineup with ESR, Saka and Laca in the attack. On the left he could pick either Pepe or Auba. Odegaard is a good player. But he’ll need a few more games to integrate with the team. Thursday match is too important to experimenting on a new member. I want our team goes deeper in the competition and ideally, meeting Emery’s team along… Read more »

Sid

Theres no greater joy than
ripping an Arsenal thong off a Berkshire MILF

Im telling you for free!

Sid

Its looking likely Thomas Diaby will be back when we are only left with dead rubber games.

Tony

“This is the type of self-entitled, ‘it’s all about me” fan that gets us all a bad name.”

Give it a rest AFC. You are just as bad calling people trolls who don’t align with your thinking.You’re actually projecting more entitlement than the people you’re complaining about.

Football is a sport that evokes the strongest of feelings in people and tribal wars between clubs fanatical fan. When emotions are high many people say and do things they don’t really mean – just spur of the moment venting.

Tony

Sid
Are there many Berkshire MILFs where you are from?

Can you refresh my memory are you from India or Africa?

Do you need to stock up on your MILF pics?

Tony

Guvnor
Well reasoned post much earlier.

Tony

Really sad to see Pele having to use a zimmer frame in the press today.

His face said it all.

Still best ever in the world?

Big yes for me.

Always wondered if another country could replicate or better Brazil’s golden decades throughout Pele’s football life and beyond for at least a decade?

Can’t see it happening now the way football has advanced.

China1

ES we can’t take for granted that arsenal will remain the most popular club in London anymore or for much longer because it’s determined by a constant conveyor belt of old fans dying and young kids getting into football Honestly speaking is being a historically stable or well run club couldn’t be less interesting to a 7 year old getting into football right now. Even the glory years of early wenger are a distant memory to be told to them by their parents generation and this will carry little to no weight. If the kids see Harry Kane rearing it… Read more »

China1

When we still had arsene we had some claim to be the kings of continuity and wenger represented a brand of football even if we stopped actually playing attractive football regularly about 3 years before he left – he did have a very powerful impact on arsenals brand image. But since wenger is gone and his successor has too, there’s not really any lasting point of arsenal to differentiate us from spurs and Chelsea favorably over the last couple of years We don’t even play the most attractive football in London. Our stadium isn’t the biggest in north London anymore… Read more »

China1

Like I keep saying if arteta brings home the EL this season I will say great job in spite of all the gripes I’ve had this year.

Most people think we won’t manage it and they’re probably right but this has to happen this year to salvage the season and give us a great platform for next year.

Step one is do a number of benfica. Get it done Mikel because I’m not interested in any excuses if we can’t beat benficq over two legs. There will be zero excuses

Winthorpe

MoeFebruary 22, 2021 22:47:31
Globalunner
Spot on mate…..these kids ain’t supporting no loser team at school n become the laughingstock of their mates. Hell no, not even for Daddy. The draw for Arsenal is exactly what now?

Most of these kids don’t sound like they have dads
I’d say most son’s who share a close bond with their dad will support the team their father supports.

Winthorpe

Always wondered if another country could replicate or better Brazil’s golden decades throughout Pele’s football life and beyond for at least a decade?

Tony
Did Spain not dominate the world for a decade?

Winthorpe

SidFebruary 23, 2021 04:36:27
Theres no greater joy than
ripping an Arsenal thong off a Berkshire MILFIm telling you for free!

Sounds classy

Mee

Bellerin allegedly on PSG’s radar. How I wish

Tony

Winthorpe Had to look it up to be sure: Brazil They have been a member of FIFA since 1923 and a member of CONMEBOL since 1916. Brazil is the most successful national team in the FIFA World Cup, being crowned winner five times: 1958, 1962, 1970, 1994 and 2002. Spain The Spain national football team have won four trophies in FIFA and UEFA tournaments: one FIFA World Cup in 2010, and three UEFA European Championship in 1964, 2008 and 2012. In addition, it was runner-up in the UEFA European Championship in 1984 and in the FIFA Confederations Cup in 2013.… Read more »