Sacking Arteta for a b-lister would be the move. It’s not worth it

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Well, here we go again, friends. Another week of ‘oh please god make it stop’ is heading our way. Manchester City in the EFL followed by Chelsea in the Premier League. Not ideal opponents, but when you are utterly shite, who is it good to play against?

The strategy for the week should probably be focused on giving it our all in the Premier League. Give the cup game to the footballing gods as a sacrificial lamb. Spend time coaching. A big performance and a win against Chelsea sets you up nicely for an ‘easy’ run of games. That is what we need.

Back to the grim story that is the manager’s future.

It’s pretty clear the plan as it stands is to back Mikel Arteta.

If he loses the next 5 games, I’m not sure they’ll be sticking with that idea, but hopefully it won’t get that bad. Not that there are any positives to really point to outside an uptick in xG.

Here’s the reality though. What do you think can be done right now that will give Arsenal the bounce they need?

Firstly, it’s obvious that the entire leadership team is badly off-key. We have three first jobbers trying to resurrect a club that has suffered a decade of failure. We have no footballing expertise on the board. KSE is addicted to bad decisions and staying loyal to the perpetrators. I’ll say it again for those in the back of the room in Delaware… how can you trust anyone that signed off on 32-year-old Willian for 3 years at £250k a week IN A PANDEMIC AFTER GIVING PEOPLE MANDATORY PAYCUTS. That’s a career-ending decision in most lines of work, not at Arsenal.

That last paragraph is there to drive home the reality: You don’t have good people making decisions at Arsenal. Sacking Mikel Arteta right now won’t bring us the joy or solace we need. Why? Because the only managers that are available are the b-listers who can’t get jobs.

Eddie Howe? Get the fuck out of my office.

Roberto Martinez? Red card for the commenter about to type ‘I’ve actually watched a lot of Belgium annnd’

Max Allegri? There’s a reason he hasn’t found a job in over two years. He’s a discipline merchant, supremely arrogant, and he doesn’t have any Premier League experience. He’ll cost a fortune, come with 10 of his staff, and there’s a very slim chance his brand of management will click with this group of players. You can say ‘THAT IS WHAT THEY NEED’… well, look at how the discipline thing is going down with Arteta. Look at how it worked under Emery. I also think the fans would detest his football.

The A-listers aren’t jumping onto this burning fire of a job. Julian Nagelsmann isn’t going to take it. Pochettino is still being paid by Spurs, he won’t take a pay cut to join us, and he’s not going to soil his Spurs legacy to join a club with no infrastructure. Brendan Rodgers ain’t stupid, the job is attractive, but is he going to want to work with this squad with Edu as the guy supporting him? No chance. Even a manager like Hassenhutl (not sure he’s an a-lister), who has always worked with Sporting Directors, might pass on moving midseason if we had the finance to do it.

If you can’t get an A-lister, which is what a club without leadership needs, then all you’ll be left with are managers that will have tools downed on them within 3 months. I am not even sure the idea of a rockstar manager works in 2020… I think all great managers are supported by great teams. The idea that Arteta could do it alone was naive. Now we know that, let’s not think a b-lister is going to turn this around.

Most new managers go through a shitty patch like this in their careers, it’s just usually way out of sight of an elite club. Ralph H had it at Southampton last season, but no one remembers that now he’s fixed it. Jose Mourinho did this at Chelsea in 2015, he lost 9 games, he was fired by December 17th, Rafa took over, then Conte won the league the season after. Top football clubs bin underperforming managers… but we ain’t a top football club.

The power move is a football CEO. You could be PC about it and shift Edu to the side, but it’s clear, he ain’t it by a long shot. Willian on a 3-year deal. Luiz given another year despite dreck performances. Soares on a 4-year deal. Pabo Mari on a perm deal despite keeping Luiz. Announcing signings at his super agents house. At best it’s an extreme conflict of interest, at worst, it’s the decisions of a Techincal Director that has zero creativity or plan to move the club forward. How could he rationalise any of those decisions if you sat down with him at a table? He’d be laughed out of west and north London pubs. You cannot keep faith with that sort of football taste.

We need a ‘been there, done that’ football CEO who can come in and take on the project.

Give whoever it is a remit.

Bonus the fuck out of them.

Tell them they’ll be given 5 years to do things properly with no pressure on them.

If you bring them in at Christmas, let them work with Arteta and Edu until the end of the season. Let them make the decision on their futures. Put the big footballing decisions in the hands of a person that knows the game. That has a track record. That has experience with all the shit we are dealing with.

Vinai should be taking away Mikel’s managerial role right now whatever the path forward is. It has not worked. If he complains, he can always quit. If Edu can’t pick up all of the job, why the fuck are we paying him to be here? Simple fact is Arteta was promoted to pick up the slack of Edu. That is shocking leadership from Vinai. Edu should have gone with Raul.

Arsenal are in a uniquely messy situation right now. Lots of fans will see sacking Arteta as the move to make, I don’t see that as a viable option unless there’s an A-lister lined up. A December hire is not something we should indulge in. I don’t want the top 8 version of Sam Allardyce for the next 3 years. These players need to claw back to midtable so we can make a proper decision in the summer.

I think that’ll be the plan… I’m just not entirely sure Arteta has it in him to move this squad of players into a satisfactory place in the league table. He’s still talking about fine margins. They truly seem to believe a couple of loan moves fix this mess… and hey, maybe an Isco turns it around for us.  I’m just not sure I’m buying it. Feels like a movie I’ve seen before. I feel deeply uncomfortable about Arsenal making more short term signings to prop up a manager that has shown us next to nothing this season.

It bears repeating again. Luis Campos and Ralph Rangnick are both free agents. Both have performed incredible feats of leadership in their careers. Both are still at the elite end of the game. Both would do a great job with this Arsenal mess.

We’ll pass though, won’t we?

See you in the comments.

P.S. Podcast coming later + a striker review you’re gonna love from Mike McDonald.

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Bojangles

It’s fine, maybe understandable, that many here want Arteta gone. Could I suggest you stop cutting and pasting your comments from previous blogs though, it tends to be a bit boring reading the same comments from the same posters every blog.

Habesha Gooner

Why I can’t take pedro seriously is he wouldn’t have tolerated these sequence of results if it was any other manager than his darling Arteta. He would be pulling his hair out. It all points to one thing. Pedro can’t handle being wrong. If you can’t admit when you make mistakes then you can never call out anyone when they do.Curb your ego please. It doesn’t matter whether there is a possibility that Arteta will become a good coach. If any one thinks this form is acceptable then they are insane. Man city, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man united and every top… Read more »

raptora

No Auba for tomorrow.

Arteta is back this time talking about victims and fighters.

“You just need fighters – you don’t want any victims.
“Victims just bring excuses, bring negativity and they start to blame everything that is happening around them or that is not going for them.
“You just need people who fight, people who contribute and people who are ready to give everything to the cause in these moments.”

Figthers = Xhaka and Willian. Okay, Boss. Got it.

Ishola70

And the FA Cup is not the EPL.

The EPL is the big boys competition compared to the FA Cup and Arteta has failed miserably in the higher end competition the EPL.

He didn’t even get a significant new managers bounce in the EPL when he first arrived.

Jamie

Will someone please acknowledge Pierre? He’s desperately double-pointing long rants about how early he saw the situation clearly.

Jamie

double-posting*

Graham62

Do I think we will get relegated?

Actually, no I don’t. A lot will depend though on how quickly Arsenal deal with the Arteta conundrum.

Stick by him and I sense catastrophe.

The evidence is there for all to see. Waiting will achieve nothing. In fact, the longer we wait the worse the situation will become.

Those who feel we should give him more time, are only kidding themselves.

Gunnernet9

I highly believe there is no plan b behind Arteta appointment. Arteta had a succesful early spell, everyine was satisfied went iblivious and granted Mikel all power.

Simply because they dont really care as soon as fans were happy again. Now we reached this stage there is no fcking plan b whatsoever.

No matter if we are going to lose next 5 games, Arteta will be backed.

Tom

“Can someone please explain to me on what grounds did we hire Arteta?
Simple English please.”

he bought someone a watch, improved Sterling and Pep said he’d be great.

Habesha Gooner

Pierre
Right now we need results more than performances. your comment would make sense if we were around midtable. But we are facing being in the bottom three by the end of december. We have 2 points out of a possible 21. I would take a shit housing result right now. We need points.

andy1886

Stroller, the league table does not lie. We are fifteenth and deserve to be there. Could another coach do better with this squad? Absolutely. 100%. The midfield? The only players that he doesn’t have available from last season where we finished eighth are: Ozil (Arteta binned him) Guendouzi (Arteta shipped him out) Torriera (Arteta shipped him out too) Reasons why we are where we are and why another coach could and almost certainly would do better: Terrible team selections – Willian is a prime example. As average as Pepe is he offers more. Awful tactics – Passing out at the… Read more »

Nelson

I took time to analyze the 2nd half of last game. There are three things that prevented us from scoring. – Eddie against Keane or Mina was like a child against adult. He tried but was like bounding against a brick wall. Laca was even worse.. He just stood there inside the box waiting for the ball to hit him. The club has spent so much on the two strikers. Our team needs a better striker to be effective. I would like to see whether Balo would make a difference. Martinelli was more mobile. He may not be 100% yet.… Read more »

Goobergooner

That last paragraph really sums it up.

We aren’t going to make the right decision.

But if the b-list manager is a stop gap I’d be happier with that than what we are seeing now. I duno what list manager Mikel is but it’s probs a big fat F.

In saying that, if this current setup is going to be pushing on through the transfer window, it will be very interesting indeed.

Graham62

Remember, Pierre’s a golfer and as you all know golfers like to tell you they are………well,….golfers.

It’s like a status thing. Look at me. I can play off an 8 handicap. Just bought myself a new set of Callaways. etc etc.

Self gratification is the name of the game for Pierre.

Says a lot about him really.

Emiratesstroller

Ishola 70 How do you expect Arsenal against teams like Liverpool and Man City who are on paper and on recent form significantly better than us? Do you expect us to play in the fashion that we did under Arsene Wenger? I suggest that you take a look at the posts on Le Grove during that era and the complaints made about the loose football played then. Arsenal’s current problem is the lack of goal scoring and that is a problem not just with our forwards, but the midfield as well. We have not played well this season, but I… Read more »

AC

Pedro, I will not rant or swear at you. Just need an honest answer.

If we appoint a football ceo and let Arteta continue, how are you so sure that it will not come back and bite us in our ass in 6 months time when Arteta will pick a fight with the ceo? If we are wiping this season clean, is it not better to start afresh with a football CEO and his protege. Why Arteta again? Stubbornness and arrogance are the makings of failed careers.

Graham62

Jamie

Will that acknowledgment suffice?

andy1886

Nelson, with all due respect just about every other commentator said Willain was terrible on Saturday including Arseblog who focused in his ‘performance’ specifically and F365 who chose him as their ‘early loser’ of the weekend.

Gunnernet

Actually Raptora, i think it is better for Auba to be absent for a while. He hasnt helped at all and is under huge pressure at every game to deliver. I think we played better eithout him against everton.

Martinelli is coming back. Let him start a few matches and bring Auba slowly back next to him

andy1886

Stroller, we are equal eighth for goals against this season in the PL, level with Burnley. Nothing to write home about.

Dissenter

Pedro
You’re all over the place man. This is a very complicated Arteta grieving process for you.
You backed the manager who;s leading us down the relegation path.

englandsbest

A masterly exposition, Pedro. I agree with every word. We need a top-rate CEO. Looking back, this has been evident ever since David Dein was booted out. Sacking the manager as the antidote will not work. IMO not even if the replacement is an A-lister. Not now, not the way things are. And, as you rightly say, no manager worth his salt would take the job anyway. The can, as ever, stays with the owner. By now, even Stan must realize what needs to be done. Whether he has the wit or will to deal with the problem is anybody’s… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

andy 1886

Our midfield was shit in last 2 seasons. How many times did I highlight the lack of creativity,
assists and goals scored in that department.

Collectively this department contributed zilch to our overall performance. Apart from Ozil
we lack creative and goalscoring players in team and in the absence of Partey no
control as well.

That is not just a current problem and as everyone with a brain knows is not going to be solved by reintroduction of Ozil.

Ishola70

ES “We have not played well this season, but I would like to point out that Arsenal have not conceded goals on the scale of most other clubs in EPL including for the record Man Cityand Liverpool.” That’s because both Man City and Liverpool play more progressive attacking football than Arsenal and are not bland and turgid in their tactics. We can’t score goals for shit and now can concede at any time as well. It’s all irrelevant anyway because the team are playing poorly and have done for the vast majority of the season and we deserve to be… Read more »

Jamie

Graham,

Nice summation.

Graham62

ES

No ones disputing what you highlight.

The thing is ES, don’t you think that after 5 month, Arteta would have changed things a wee bit. You know, make us a bit more proactive.

We are, put simply, utter garbage.

On top of this, his man management skills are also crap.

Please excuse my language.

andy1886

From MA’s press conference today (good luck): “Last year we won the game against Everton with a 25 per cent chance of winning, you win 3-2,” he said. “Last weekend, it was a 67 per cent chance of winning, any Premier League game in history, and a nine per cent chance of losing, and you lose. “Three per cent against Burnley and you lose, seven per cent against Spurs, and you lose. “There is something else apart from that, it is not just the performance on the pitch, it is something else that needs to go our way and at… Read more »

andy1886

Stroller, so how did we finish fifth and eighth then?

Must be superior coaching……

South African Gooner

Tom ***“Can someone please explain to me on what grounds did we hire Arteta? Simple English please.”he bought someone a watch, improved Sterling and Pep said he’d be great.*** The WATCH is important. When Arteta bought Gazidas his watch- it obviously impressed Ivan. Ivan leaked the name out there. The Arteta name started to circulate. The start of the ‘Arteta coaching myth’ now created. Then Pep comes and takes the City money. And like a good Catalan employs his fellow Catalan for the City cone job. As I have said before; soccer and English soccer in particular is the biggest… Read more »

Dissenter

Problem is we are running out of time to reverse the precipitous decline.
We have won 5 points out of the last available 30 points. Every club bar Sheffield has outperformed us.

Letting Arteta lose the next 5 games puts us in a spot that is hard to reverse.

raptora

andy,
What the actual fuck did I just read?

Graham62

Jamie

You probably know that everything about Pierre is a facade.

The golf.
His age.
His moniker ( French name)
His love affair with Wenger and Ozil.

It’s just his way of winding us up.

Play the game.

I do.

Emiratesstroller

andy 1886

How do you change the performance with the resources we have got?

Nothing is going to change when you have a piss poor midfield not least in absence of Partey.

Everyone including the manager knows the problem. It has been highlighted often enough by those who understand and watch football.

AC

Lol Andy, Arteta is paranoid and talking shit in interviews

Graham62

CG

Talking of Eddie Howe.

What’s he doing?

raptora

Wtf did I just read? I am in dire need of a translator for this Generational language.

Rich

AC The whole point of a football CEO, is he takes 100% control of our football operations. Respectful disagreements in any organisation are healthy. But if Arteta can’t cope operating under a football CEO? Then he knows where the door is. Equally If a football CEO doesn’t want to work with Arteta? Or wants to make a change? Then we empower him to make whatever changes he see’s fit, on the football side of things. Right now we’ve got two novices in charge, KSE would be crazy to back them with more cash in January. Go and get somebody with… Read more »

South African Gooner

Graham

******CG talking of Eddie Howe.What’s he doing?******

Reading Le Grove, I hope

Doublethink

A b-lister’s gotta be better than a z-lister no?

Ishola70

Rich

“But if Arteta can’t cope operating under a football CEO?Then he knows where the door is.”

He’s not coping right now this season.

Has this passed you by?

Doublethink

Unless this new football CEO is gonna pick the team and tactics it won’t make a difference.

Sotongunner

Think it’s grossly unfair on arteta to sack him but what other choice is there. Everyone hating on emery still needs to realise his sacking was down to the players and some of the utter disloyal dogshite we have in this squad. Ozil, Luiz, willian, xhaka. All of them capable of turning a dressing room against a manager and all the rumblings in and around swirl around them. Arteta needs to go but these players and those responsible for them need get gone too. There’s a reason we are in this groundhog day and it all points to the players.… Read more »

Ishola70

This is a ludicrous suggestion that a CEO is brought in to potentially sack Arteta.

What the fuck is this club becoming if it can’t sack it’s own manager and has to rely on another incoming appointment to do it.

It’s pathetic reasoning.

Doublethink

My bad Andy I made my comment before reading the comments and pretty much said the same shit as you.

Dissenter

Ishola
What football CEO will come in to work with an unsackable manager?

Who sacks everyone except the poorly performing employee
Some people would rather have us relegated that address the fact that we hired a dud who’s unsuitable for the job.

Goobergooner

Andy that seriously cracked me up.

Good luck indeed 😂😂

I thought old papa Weng talked shit, but that is some cake snatching

andy1886

Raptora – I don’t think even he knows what he was saying!

My rough transaltion was that he says we won 3-2 at Everton last year when statistically we had a 25% chance of winning that game and we lost 2-1 at Everton this time when we had statistically a 67% chance of winning it. Therefore it’s some mysterious ‘other’ factor that caused the loss not our performance.

No idea where he got the stats from as anyone with eyes could tell you that they are bollocks. Maybe StatDNA is broken?

Ishola70

Josh Kroenke has to get his arse in gear and stop this madness.

Sack Arteta and tell Edu you only have until the summer and then you are out to and make his replacement at that later time.

If which could be more than likely Josh Kroenke can’t get his shit in action then yes as others have said we are truly fucked as a football club.

Dissenter

I listen to the Arteta press conferences and somehow I’m beginning to feel sorry for some of our players.
Who wants to perform for this jerk of a manager? It’s no wonder Auba has called in a sickie
His utterances border on delusional and egoistical
‘I stick my chest out fir you to beat”… who says stuff like that in press conferences?

Tom

Arteta is in the face ( job is probably gone) saving mode now so anything he says will sound delusional to casual observers.

Receding Hairline

Andy where did he get those percentages from?

Man needs to be sacked, he is losing it.

P.S Emirates stroller is shameless

andy1886

Stroller – the point is we HAVE changed the performances – for the worse! And with more resources. Arteta has is anything more resources and is getting less from them. With the same midfield options.

Leftside

Those quotes from Andy.:

What on earth is Arteta talking about???

Ronald

I really wonder if some guys really watched the Everton match well. Ceballos pointing and gesturing the ball to be played away from him while he is in a horrible position to receive the ball. Time and time again. At one point Holfing and Luiz exchanged passed back and forth all the while being 1 nil down. And to make matters worse, this is the same shit we have seen time and again. I’m

Ishola70

If these two Arteta and Edu are continued to be allowed to run amok only trouble lies ahead for Arsenal.

raptora

ES: “Nothing is going to change when you have a piss poor midfield not least in absence of Partey.Everyone including the manager knows the problem. It has been highlighted often enough by those who understand and watch football.” You are aware that there is no midfield to be won since Spuds and Everton left us to control the ball and knew they will comfortable see the game out? I hope you are. Partey isn’t the reason we have scored 1 goal from open play in 10 games. You have to be pretty deluded to think so. How did Emery manage… Read more »

Goobergooner

Ishola, this is it…

“This is a ludicrous suggestion that a CEO is brought in to potentially sack Arteta.What the fuck is this club becoming if it can’t sack it’s own manager and has to rely on another incoming appointment to do it.It’s pathetic reasoning.”

Any ceo worth his salt coming in would sack Arteta before he even walks in the front door.

The BFB (Berk From Berkshire)

NO NO NO Pedro! Trust Arteta and Edu with January’s transfer budget? When will you realise Arteta has to be sacked and that means now. And Eddie Howe achieved the virtually impossible by taking Bournemouth from the depths of Division Two to a respectable Premier League team, a position they maintained for several years on an extremely limited budget. I’d take him over our pretender any day.

Nelson

Andy

Willian was terrible in the 1st half when he was the left wing. He didn’t stop Iwobi from setting up the 1st goal. I am talking about the 2nd half when he played the #10 role. He must have completed the most passes during that time. You should watch the replay and judge it yourself. I have no special love for Willian. I only trust who I see.

DigitalBob

Something very AVB about Arteta…………..that press conference was so very worrying.

andy1886

More from Arteta:

“”I think last year when I came in we were in a very similar position and the same talk was around the place, it is normal because we need to start picking up points and then forget about it and start to look up the table much further.”

When MA arrived we were 10th with 22 points from 17 games.

Now we are 15th with 14 points from 14 games.

Not similar at all.

Doublethink

Do you think there’s a chance that Pedro saw how Trump’s divisiveness was a goldmine for the media and trying to do the same here to promote engagement, he does work in marketing?
As ridiculous as it sounds it’s more plausible than watching Arsenal this season believing Arteta is still the right man for the job.

andy1886

Nelson, I saw a stat about that saying that in the second half he had a very high pass completion rate but created absolutely nothing. That’s the problem, he’s another body, nothing more, he doesn’t contribute anything.

SpanishDave

Arteta serial looser
Looking up the table !!!,,,,!
How about looking down for a change.
We need 1pt per game now to get 40 pts how about that

Peckobill

Arteta knows he’s a dead man walking to come out with that gobbledegook . It’s fumbling for any sort of data to show you’ve been unlucky and they trying to hold on to their job and reputation, you hear all sorts of nonsense of managers when they facing the bullet . He’s knows deep down it’s a results business and the only stat or data that matters is the 3 points after each game , everything else is just fluff

andy1886

This from The Athletic pretty much sums up Willian:

If Arteta and technical director Edu believed Willian would provide the creativity they need, they were wrong. The Brazilian completed 45 out of 46 passes against Everton — a stat that describes a player who provides technical security at the expense of adventure and risk. Right now, Arsenal do not need another keep-ball merchant.

andy1886

Double – if Pedro was getting revenue from the blog I’d agree with you but apparently he isn’t.

NORG

other teams are sifting through our gems. The future stars that have genuine talent that Arteta chooses to ignore whilst he persists favourites who are either ‘past it’ or are never going to be part of a winning set up. Expect Balogun to sign for a German team in a couple of weeks time and expect Klopp to whisper in Martinelli’s ear. Leave the rats to sink with the ship – most will have get out clauses in their contracts when the mighty AFC gets relegated.

Hasn’t the twat been sacked yet? Oh hold on, it’s edu’s fault now, once he’s gone it will be Vinis fault, when he’s gone it will be the tea lady’s fault etc etc, but never arteta’s because he’s generational

Moray

“Most new managers go through a shitty patch like this in their careers“

Arteta’s at the beginning of his career. We’re not talking about Mourinho at Man Utd here…

Jules

I haven’t posted on here for a long time, for what it’s worth- I feel for Arteta in that he has inherited a load of crap players he can’t get rid of but, I said when Emery went, I would have taken Ancelotti on a one or two year deal, someone experienced to steady the mess and had my doubts about Arteta. Wish he went to Everton and Carlo came to us- look at the table- I think so!

Peckobill

Norg
If I was martinelli I would’ve already put in a transfer request the second some clown in charge was picking Eddie fucking nketiah ahead of him . That would’ve been enough for me . Think Klopp would love a bit of martinelli, he wouldn’t touch nketiah with a barge pole

Moray

Andy, is that down to Willian’s shortcomings, or because of the coaching and instructions from the manager?

andy1886

Moray – honestly I think that it’s a bit of both. Willian isn’t even working hard enough regardless of instructions and Arteta has the option not to pick him.

Peckobill

The good thing with sacking arteta now as well with martinelli being out for so long at least he hasn’t been artetarised yet . I mean how can so many of our forwards be out of form at exactly the same time . Sheesh and some think it’s not the coaching

Freddie Ljungberg

Andy Willian has had 1 shot on goal in the last 15 games, and he’s undroppable. I really don’t get the people that keep insisting that Arteta is an “excellent head coach”, based on what exactly? Slightly improving a 50m youngster at City that was bound to improve anyway as most young players do? Getting a couple of results against better teams playing with 10 men behind the ball? Don’t get me wrong, it was good to win those games but it’s not a long term strategy and we play like that against everyone, it’s embarrassing ffs. He’s terrible at… Read more »

shaun

Really curious as to how people know Arteta is a great head coach ? as i don’t think we are seeing the results of a great head coach .The football Arsenal currently play is awful for results an awful to watch , so what attributes of a great coach does Arteta actually have , pretty sure Arsenal would not be in this position had they appointed say Ancelotti as head coach and that was not in anyway a preferred choice but more of an experienced man who could manage the job.Those who are saying stick with Arteta on what grounds… Read more »

Moray

Andy, the coaching really worries me. It’s the one thing we know Arteta can do. How have we stopped pressing, for example? How have our set pieces not improved? What are they doing in training? Just fighting each other? If Arteta is not bringing this then it’s really tough to justify his wages, as he hasn’t done anything else well since he joined.

Jules

I said Ancelotti too Shaun, would have been my choice of who was available.

Doublethink

Andy even he makes no money he’s still prefer it be popular no?

S Asoa

1- Bring in DoF with pedigree
2- Edu serves no purpose except as decoration , fuck him off
3- Assuming the DoF is a competent guy he will fire Arteta straightaway .
4- Let our DoF ( competent guy ) recruit replacement, keep an eye overall

Or
As Valentin suggested hire the Lille guys who are sacked. Both should do well here. Simples

Doublethink

Where the fuck is Arteta getting this numbers
from ‘7% against Spurs’. What the fuck is he talking about ?

raptora

Doublethink,
I’ve no fkin clue mate. Wtf are these generational numbers?

Calypso

We should bring in a PE Teacher to steady the ship.

Rich

Ishola70 Why wait until summer to sack Edu? Why would you go through the trouble of potentially sacking two managers in 7 months, and the novice who made those decisions? And all the financial expense that involves, not to mention if we employ the wrong manager, things could actually get worse, and not better. Why task Edu with more of KSE cash over the next 6 weeks, and trust he doesn’t screw it up? When you can potentially just go and get one of the two experienced DOF who are currently out of work, then empower them to do what… Read more »

Gunnernet

Jules, we are on the same page. I was viting for Carlo before Arteta appointment, but make no mistake. It is not the players fault. We have a top5/6 squad and thats a fact. This is Mikel’s mess

SpanishDave

Started the season pressing, that stopped.
Tried playing from the back , that’s far less now.
Tried endlessly crossing the ball, that didn’t work.
Using non creative players in the middle, that’s not working.
Picking favourites regardless of form, that doesn’t work.
Some coach he is

Gunnernet

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Markymark

It’s a guess that the players would not want to work for Allegri much like it was best guess the players would all be coached to genius levels under Arteta. If a player can’t raise his game for Allegri then really they should do the honest thing and find a new lower paying career. Playing for the great managers is all part of the players motives and career
Pedro was very dismissive of Ancelotti I seem to remember and look what he’s doing

AC

Rich, “We can’t just sack Arteta and his staff, without a coherent and deliverable plan in place.”

If we can come up with a plan for the football CEO quickly in January, I am sure we can come up with a coherent and deliverable plan for the head coach situation, or rather the football CEO will up with the plan for Arteta. Your logic is a desperate attempt to save Arteta.

Peckobill

Calypso
All jokes aside and I kid you not my old p.e teacher back in the day who ran the school football team did actually employ the exact tactics arteta does . All play through the wide areas chucking in cross after cross irrelevant what type of player we had front and everyone back in defence off the ball and hope for a quick counter .
My god it just dawned on me my old p.e teacher is Artetas equal in football acumen

AC

Edu goes because he is no good at identifying talent and building a good squad. Arteta goes because he cannot get the best out of the squad given to him. Rather he has a tendency to decimate squads because of personal ego. This is the consensus I am getting from the conversation here.

Uwot?

Wow.There are some back stabbing motherf*** kers on this blog for sure.Holy shit.It wasn’t so long ago that Arteta was hailed as the 2nd coming,could do no wrong.F** me.3 months on & he’s the Devil incarnate.The only ones on here that speak a modicum of common sense seem to be Emirates stroller & Bergkamp 63.What happened to the agreed fact there would be blips.ups & downs.Sympathy that he inherited a complete disaster.Has to have a clear out.will take time….that was quickly binned.No wonder other clubs fans mock us.It’s plain to see we have a bunch of c** ts supporting this… Read more »

@Uwot

Yeah because arteta’s done such a great job he’s beyond reproach. Please forgive for doubting you’re support and arteta’s genius management abilities

into the red

Every time Arteta opens his mouth it is another car crash. WTF is he on with these desperate stats he has pulled out? And what is he thinking? The attempt to ‘prove’ that we are actually playing well, but only let down by poor finishing, as if we are just waiting for the magic luck to come back, is absolutely pitiful. It is an admission of hopelessness, as well as one of delusion. Is that it – the only plan he has? Just wait until we get better luck – what, like the slipshod defending we practice on a regular… Read more »

raptora

“What happened to the agreed fact there would be blips.ups & downs.”

Nothing of a remote resemblance of how to win a football game, 3 spots above relegation. 1 goal from open play in 10 games. 7 losses and 1 win in 10 games. Breaking every negative record in the last half a century. I guess that’s called a blip?

“Sympathy that he inherited a complete disaster.”

Disaster that finished 5th and 8th, and he somehow managed to bring even more disaster with him.

shaun

I don’t think it is scatter brain at all to sack the manager now, he can’t manage literally . We have tried the romantic exciting innovative new coach with all the modern tactics and new methods approach , short term the top clubs usually get in benitez to steady the ship and make sure we don’t go down and he has more experience than all three of Arsenal’s management group I would get rid of both Arteta and Edu and move Vinnai back to accounts , men like Carlo and Benitez have the required Prem experience to steady the ship… Read more »

raptora

Arteta: “Is there 100 per cent unity around the club? It is impossible in any club even when you win because when players are not participating, it is more difficult but when you look at the perspective about how we are losing football matches and how we are where we are, it is pretty incredible. Last year we won the game against Everton with a 25 per cent chance of winning, you win 3-2. Last weekend, it was a 67 per cent chance of winning, any Premier League game in history, and a nine per cent chance of losing, and… Read more »

Trask

[James Olley] Arteta: Last weekend, it was a 67 per cent chance of winning, any Premier League game in history, and a nine per cent chance of losing, and you lose. Three per cent against Burnley and you lose, seven per cent against Spurs, and you lose.

I have no words…

Trask

raprora

Wonder what this ‘something else’ is

The fairy Godmother?

Jeez….