Sacking Arteta for a b-lister would be the move. It’s not worth it

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Well, here we go again, friends. Another week of ‘oh please god make it stop’ is heading our way. Manchester City in the EFL followed by Chelsea in the Premier League. Not ideal opponents, but when you are utterly shite, who is it good to play against?

The strategy for the week should probably be focused on giving it our all in the Premier League. Give the cup game to the footballing gods as a sacrificial lamb. Spend time coaching. A big performance and a win against Chelsea sets you up nicely for an ‘easy’ run of games. That is what we need.

Back to the grim story that is the manager’s future.

It’s pretty clear the plan as it stands is to back Mikel Arteta.

If he loses the next 5 games, I’m not sure they’ll be sticking with that idea, but hopefully it won’t get that bad. Not that there are any positives to really point to outside an uptick in xG.

Here’s the reality though. What do you think can be done right now that will give Arsenal the bounce they need?

Firstly, it’s obvious that the entire leadership team is badly off-key. We have three first jobbers trying to resurrect a club that has suffered a decade of failure. We have no footballing expertise on the board. KSE is addicted to bad decisions and staying loyal to the perpetrators. I’ll say it again for those in the back of the room in Delaware… how can you trust anyone that signed off on 32-year-old Willian for 3 years at £250k a week IN A PANDEMIC AFTER GIVING PEOPLE MANDATORY PAYCUTS. That’s a career-ending decision in most lines of work, not at Arsenal.

That last paragraph is there to drive home the reality: You don’t have good people making decisions at Arsenal. Sacking Mikel Arteta right now won’t bring us the joy or solace we need. Why? Because the only managers that are available are the b-listers who can’t get jobs.

Eddie Howe? Get the fuck out of my office.

Roberto Martinez? Red card for the commenter about to type ‘I’ve actually watched a lot of Belgium annnd’

Max Allegri? There’s a reason he hasn’t found a job in over two years. He’s a discipline merchant, supremely arrogant, and he doesn’t have any Premier League experience. He’ll cost a fortune, come with 10 of his staff, and there’s a very slim chance his brand of management will click with this group of players. You can say ‘THAT IS WHAT THEY NEED’… well, look at how the discipline thing is going down with Arteta. Look at how it worked under Emery. I also think the fans would detest his football.

The A-listers aren’t jumping onto this burning fire of a job. Julian Nagelsmann isn’t going to take it. Pochettino is still being paid by Spurs, he won’t take a pay cut to join us, and he’s not going to soil his Spurs legacy to join a club with no infrastructure. Brendan Rodgers ain’t stupid, the job is attractive, but is he going to want to work with this squad with Edu as the guy supporting him? No chance. Even a manager like Hassenhutl (not sure he’s an a-lister), who has always worked with Sporting Directors, might pass on moving midseason if we had the finance to do it.

If you can’t get an A-lister, which is what a club without leadership needs, then all you’ll be left with are managers that will have tools downed on them within 3 months. I am not even sure the idea of a rockstar manager works in 2020… I think all great managers are supported by great teams. The idea that Arteta could do it alone was naive. Now we know that, let’s not think a b-lister is going to turn this around.

Most new managers go through a shitty patch like this in their careers, it’s just usually way out of sight of an elite club. Ralph H had it at Southampton last season, but no one remembers that now he’s fixed it. Jose Mourinho did this at Chelsea in 2015, he lost 9 games, he was fired by December 17th, Rafa took over, then Conte won the league the season after. Top football clubs bin underperforming managers… but we ain’t a top football club.

The power move is a football CEO. You could be PC about it and shift Edu to the side, but it’s clear, he ain’t it by a long shot. Willian on a 3-year deal. Luiz given another year despite dreck performances. Soares on a 4-year deal. Pabo Mari on a perm deal despite keeping Luiz. Announcing signings at his super agents house. At best it’s an extreme conflict of interest, at worst, it’s the decisions of a Techincal Director that has zero creativity or plan to move the club forward. How could he rationalise any of those decisions if you sat down with him at a table? He’d be laughed out of west and north London pubs. You cannot keep faith with that sort of football taste.

We need a ‘been there, done that’ football CEO who can come in and take on the project.

Give whoever it is a remit.

Bonus the fuck out of them.

Tell them they’ll be given 5 years to do things properly with no pressure on them.

If you bring them in at Christmas, let them work with Arteta and Edu until the end of the season. Let them make the decision on their futures. Put the big footballing decisions in the hands of a person that knows the game. That has a track record. That has experience with all the shit we are dealing with.

Vinai should be taking away Mikel’s managerial role right now whatever the path forward is. It has not worked. If he complains, he can always quit. If Edu can’t pick up all of the job, why the fuck are we paying him to be here? Simple fact is Arteta was promoted to pick up the slack of Edu. That is shocking leadership from Vinai. Edu should have gone with Raul.

Arsenal are in a uniquely messy situation right now. Lots of fans will see sacking Arteta as the move to make, I don’t see that as a viable option unless there’s an A-lister lined up. A December hire is not something we should indulge in. I don’t want the top 8 version of Sam Allardyce for the next 3 years. These players need to claw back to midtable so we can make a proper decision in the summer.

I think that’ll be the plan… I’m just not entirely sure Arteta has it in him to move this squad of players into a satisfactory place in the league table. He’s still talking about fine margins. They truly seem to believe a couple of loan moves fix this mess… and hey, maybe an Isco turns it around for us.  I’m just not sure I’m buying it. Feels like a movie I’ve seen before. I feel deeply uncomfortable about Arsenal making more short term signings to prop up a manager that has shown us next to nothing this season.

It bears repeating again. Luis Campos and Ralph Rangnick are both free agents. Both have performed incredible feats of leadership in their careers. Both are still at the elite end of the game. Both would do a great job with this Arsenal mess.

We’ll pass though, won’t we?

See you in the comments.

P.S. Podcast coming later + a striker review you’re gonna love from Mike McDonald.

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grooveydaddy

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andy1886

Mid table mediocrity.

andy1886

FFS Pedro’s back on the Mikel Love Sauce.

Thought that he’d seen the light, how foolish of me.

Never mind all this talk of ‘A Listers’, when you’ve hired a fucking Z-Lister even a B, C or D Lister would be an improvement. And Z-Lister is being kind.

Jim Lahey

@Pedro –

Do you ever check for racist comments? A few were made here the other day.

Dat guy Leno

What did Cedric Soares do wrong? You are always castigating the guy and i can’t remember several games that he was shit. If anything, he’s played well the few times he has been given a chance.
Also stop insinuating that we keep Arteta unless we find an A list coach or fire Edu. Arteta will stay because the guys at the top don’t have a replacement. And they should’ve had one the moment the hired him since he was an novice.

AC

So Pedro wants rangnick to join and tell everyone that Arteta is a bum and sack him in 2 weeks

Bankz

Pedro, most B-listers will do a better job than Arteta right now.
If he isn’t sacked, we’d definitely be fighting relegation soon

Peckobill

Jeez stopped reading the post about a quarter of the way through with it jumping back to defending the utter dunce that is arteta. Even a b lister would improve on Artetas dire record and riddled with the stench of bland football . Literally anyone would improve on Artetas record breaking lows , christ benny hill would do a better job . All the mocking of akb’s back in the day ( rightly so ) for hanging on to a manager who couldn’t turn it around and here we are this exact blog doing that exact thing run by a… Read more »

andy1886

This argument doesn’t sense. It’s like saying that because you can’t get Lewis Hamilton to drive for your team you’re going to stick with Mr Magoo.

Terraloon

Isn’t the point that Arteta is probably a c lister at best so a b lister is likely to be an improvement

Simon

Youre absolutely right about Edu. He’s stinking the place out. Him and his agent Kia Joorabchian can fuck the right off along with Mikel Artapas. Were Titanic FC sinking fast with novices on the bridge asleep at the wheel.

Calypso

All the b listers are better than the manager we got.

raptora

Arteta might have been a S+ grade student but the courses cannot reproduce real environment. Not even close. Charisma, leadership, humanitarian skills like being a role model, earning the respect of your players, being a great facilitator, good communicator, being open-minded, flexible, strict but not absolute. You have to be a teacher, psychologist and around a 100 more things. You cannot learn and train these skills anywhere else but when you go through it. Most of them you can’t even learn. You either have them or not. Even if you were a generational student of the game you will not… Read more »

Calypso

We sacked Emery for D-lister

Calypso

We sacked Emery for a d-lister

ace

I love how you confidently say none of the available managers in the world would be better than Arteta as far as the Arsenal job is concerned. That was grin reading man.

Then I remember how you confidently beat the ‘hire Arteta’ drum for so long many jumped on the dance floor hoping the exercise would drown out the drum beats.

You know nothing Mr Pedro. hehehe…

Tom

As crazy as it sounds short of a knife fight between the various cliques within the Arsenal squad, Arteta will get more time to steady the ship for the reasons Pedro has given.

We are in the world of shit and there are no good solution there to be had short term.

Left Testicle

Stopped reading half way through.

Pile of shite.

Appreciate the time Pedro puts in but Jeez, it’s getting really boring with the Arteta agenda.

Left Testicle

Pecko,
Just read you only made it a quarter of the way through! 🙂

Left Testicle

I swear Pedro is doing it to generate more posts. I think I’m going to take a sabbatical and come back when Pedro is being a little more sensible.

South African Gooner

PedRo ***If you bring them in at Christmas, let them work with Arteta and Edu until the end of the season.*** Apart from maybe a dozen or so inmates from Broadmoor Mental Institution , there are no sane persons out there – who would want to work with these 2 muppets for a period of time. Arteta and Edu. Only under KSE s Arsenal would these 2 bullshitters would be allowed to thrive and be allowed to make long term strategic decsions. Arteta will soon be receiving a £10 000 000 severence package Edu probably half that amout and will… Read more »

ace

@Left Testicle @9:59

Thought I was the only one. Can’t remember the last I read everything.

ace

‘time’

andy1886

Pedro/Palin: “This manager’s not dead – E’s pining for the fjords!!”

Peckobill

Left I couldn’t bare no more it , I honestly think it would take relegation for some people to realise arteta needs sacking . There’s so many irony’s to it , the whole blog set up to rid of a manager in wenger after he lost it against those who would back him no matter what – Pedro with arteta Going on about b-listers who would all improve on arteta . A guy in advertising which entails how much bullshit you can put on to a product to sell it so should spot bullshit a mile away fell big time… Read more »

Graham62

CG

Very good.

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Pedro

A blister!!!?

More like a visit to A&E I’d say.

Just admit you made a huge mistake.

Arteta is the core reason we are in this mess.

Behind the scenes is irrelevant at this juncture.

He needs to be removed asap.

alexanderhenry

Pedro

Arsenal will stick with Arteta this season.
He still has a chance to redeem himself. Exactly how, I’m not sure.

Demoting him to coach, getting in a new CEO and sidelining or firing Edu seems unlikely though
That’s yet another big back room reshuffle right in the middle of the season. I’ll also be surprised if they’re are any genuine big signings in January.

Arsenal is not a proactive club and the owner is totally inept.

raptora

Pedro: “Most new managers go through a shitty patch like this in their careers, it’s just usually way out of sight of an elite club. Ralph H had it at Southampton last season, but no one remembers that now he’s fixed it.” You’ve repeated this many times and I’ve posted many times that is untrue. Ralph Hassenhutl picked up a relegation fodder Southampton in December 2018. Saved them in his first half a season (16th place), then finished 11th in his first full season. Eleventh for a team that was about to go down 2 seasons in a row –… Read more »

jwl

Read to end, everyone. Pedro’s marketing part of brain is at war with his gooner part of brain.
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“I think that’ll be the plan… I’m just not entirely sure Arteta has it in him to move this squad of players into a satisfactory place in the league table. He’s still talking about fine margins. They truly seem to believe a couple of loan moves fix this mess… and hey, maybe an Isco turns it around for us. I’m just not sure I’m buying it.

It bears repeating again. Luis Campos and Ralph Rangnick are both free agents. “

Ishola70

Oh for gods sake Arteta is not good enough.

How many times has it got to be said.

Tom

Honestly, I remember going back to the time of Edu coming on board rumors floating around, and reading posters getting super excited about the idea and thinking what has he done in his career to possibly justify getting this job?
I’m still not clear on that.

If Arteta was the moon shot then what was Edu and this other joker Vinny or what’s his face?

Ishola70

ES

Tell us truthfully how many times have you seen Arsenal play entertaining progressive football since Arteta arrived at the club and also before he was given the manager role from coach.

Ishola70

This is getting fucking ridiculous.

Heads in the sand time.

He is not up to scratch and he is showing no signs of being up to scratch.

The football under Arteta has been turgid for 90% of the time since he has arrived.

Why carry on with this sham.

Tissiam

How the f***can you compare MA to Ralph?one is a rookie on his 1st job the other a seasoned manager who worked for the red bull organisation and years of experience and your reasons given why Allegri Poch even Howe are not working right now are ludicrous the real reason is they are not prepared to take any crap jobs they are after a good project!

Max

@Peckobill

Pure comedy is the likes of fools like you and others dissing Pedro on the blog you flock to daily for a whinge, while effectively calling himself moron/useful.

Some other idiot actually posted for Pedro to “stand down” from his own fucking blog. Now that’s comedy. This isn’t a fucking union.

Also genius guess what happens to products without good Sales/Marketing? They go absolutely nowhere and companies go bust.
Pure comedy indeed get a clue

Ralfy

Just in case anybody important at Arsenal apart from Edu & Arteta is reading this:

https://www.ralfrangnick.com/en/football-coach.html

South African Gooner

AH

****Arsenal is not a proactive club and the owner is totally inept.****

Only when it comes to pay cuts.
My, how proactive was KSE then?
Like lightning.

Arsenal still the only club that have agreed to them in the top flight.

Arteta at the forefront of them too.

No wonder why morale around the place is so low and he seems so popular with Silent.

Ishola70

lol Arteta doesn’t need to be temporarily replaced by an “A-Lister” until the end of the season.

He ain’t that good.

He is tanking so badly that an out of work coach/mamager with a modicum of experience and pedigree could come in and do a better job. No A-Lister.

It’s like this awful season under him hasn’t occurred to some. It’s like the overall bland football since he has arrived at the club hasn’t occurred.

raptora

Pedro: “Simple fact is Arteta was promoted to pick up the slack of Edu. ” Simple fact is you are wrong. Arteta was promoted because he was power hungry and he found a bunch of idiots do whatever he asked of them. They thought they’ve found a gold mine. And were willing to fulfil his desires. It might have been in Arteta’s contract, that he becomes a manager with equal rights to the technical director in the Summer if he had done well. Arteta is a maniac about power. What does the following sound like? “It’s understood that Arteta told… Read more »

Ishola70

This is so disappointing from Pedro.

He’s hanging on for dear life onto Arteta after hinting in the previous post that he knew time was up on him.

We should have known better I suppose.

Peckobill

The biggest irony is when did le grove parallel Wenger , innovating in the beginning -seeing early enough when a manager needing changing and being in elite purgatory fighting for top 4 trophy
Old and past it – nailing your flag to a drowning manager well out of his depth hoping he comes good while we slumber in a relegation battle purgatory

andy1886

Anger issues there Max?

Good marketing doesn’t oversell a product. Do that and you’re asking for a shedload of complaints when it doesn’t live up to the hype. False marketing.

Exactly what happens when you sell a novice as a ‘generational’ manager. People don’t like being conned.

Peckobill

Max
Shit happens when you back garbage

Ishola70

Raptora tbf regarding David Luiz it has been clear that he has been put down the pecking order in relation to the first XI this season.

Arteta is seeing Rob Holding as first XI material more than David Luiz so far this season.

That’s why Rob Holding was made captain above Luiz against Everton.

They may not be talking but that has probably to do with Luiz going down the pecking order this season.

I don’t particularly rate Holding btw.

Peckobill

Max
And for the record I don’t flock daily , nowhere near . Get your facts in order first before losing your shit

Graham62

Pedro

Ten years agoI was on an outdoor trek with my wife and some local friends in British Columbia. We were on a well trodden path and came to a fork on the route. There was a sign that read “This way for civilisation and a nice cafe” with an arrow pointing left. To the right it said “ Dangerous animals, including massive Grizzlies!”

In large capital letters under the sign it also read “YOUR CHOICE!!”

We decided to turn left.

Pedro, which way are you turning?

Ishola70

Simon
“Youre absolutely right about Edu. He’s stinking the place out. Him and his agent Kia Joorabchian can fuck the right off along with Mikel Artapas. Were Titanic FC sinking fast with novices on the bridge asleep at the wheel.”

lol he’s nailed it.

It’s not one or the other.

They are both shit.

Kaz

Arteta is a C-lister.

B-lister is an upgrade.

The thing is A-lister options are available.

The way you dismiss Allegri is the way you dismissed Ancelotti and Mourinho.
No way of knowing if Nagelsmann isn’t interested if he isn’t offered.

You just never learn. Still crusading for your crush too.

I thought you had turned over a new leaf but nope, still in denial.

Tom

Allegri isn’t coming to Arsenal and it has nothing to do with money, or a language barrier.
He’s balding and Arsenal have standards.
Even Stan is wearing a rug.

Pierre

Despite the fact that i recognised where we were going months ago, and over 6 months ago called out the non negotiables, the continuous bullshit from Arteta and the ridiculous notion that if you are good on the training ground then you’re in the starting line up, i am not jumping on the Arteta out bandwagon. Despite the poor results recently, I can see an improvement , albeit slight, in our performances in the previous 5 league games.. Everton, southampton, tottenham , Burnley and Wolves, in 4 out of those 5 games we had more possession and more shots at… Read more »

Kaz

Tom

😂😂😂

Here’s the thing, Xhaka and Arteta are both handsome guys but clearly not good enough.

Who do we know on this blog who regularly defends both of them? 😂 😂

I’m just happy we’re there for their coming out moments. Strange it took a football blog for it to happen though.

Rich

Pedro Good post. Getting a temp manager is risky, will this group of players respond or commit to a new manager, who isn’t going to be here past summer? Would any potential January targets want to sign for a manager, who likely won’t still be here in 6 months? I’m not necessarily against sacking Arteta, particularly if he’s lost the dressing room? But in our current predicament, we can’t afford to spend over a month twiddling our thumbs like last time, wondering what to do, then making a panicked or poorly thought out decision, the stakes are too high, our… Read more »

Ishola70

Pedro keeps doing his dope a rope.

You have him on the back foot seemingly out and he keeps coming back with sharp Arteta jabs.

Someone throw the towel in for him.

Emiratesstroller

Pedro We are both in the minority when it comes to dealing with the current crisis at Arsenal. I made the case earlier today that what the club needs now is to appoint a “trouble shooter” to solve Arsenal’s current problems and find solutions before any new appointments are made. A scatter gun approach to sacking Arteta and bringing in one of a large number of managers suggested by Le Grove posters is not the solution. I retain the view still that Arteta is an excellent Head Coach, but I concede that it was a mistake to appoint him Manager… Read more »

Kaz

Ish

This level of delusion is why I stopped reading paininthearsenal.

It’s getting this way on LG too.

Ishola70

An Arteta and Xhaka enabler rolled into one.

Hideous.

raptora

Ishola,
I think you are right re Luiz. He hasn’t been playing him unless he really has to. Probably a matter of weeks before he starts picking even Mari ahead of him. Makes it kind of idiotic to extend him, if he doesn’t see him as first team material. I mean, we had Mustafi and Sokratis for that?! What a mess of epic proportions.

Ishola70

Kaz
“This level of delusion is why I stopped reading paininthearsenal.”

You used to read that junk? lol

Josh Sippie? The man who used to proclaim Xhaka as the darling of midfielders who was horribly misunderstood.

You must be mentally scarred from the experience.

Kaz

Ish

I did 🤣, it was one of the first blogs I stumbled upon and my God, dear Old Josh, what a colossal dumbass.

I thought it was a troll account at first but nope, genuine delusion.

Like fearless leader over here. 🙄

Ishola70

ES

This argument about Arteta losing his mojo when he became manager from previously coach is bunkum.

The football on display from Arteta since he has arrived has been 90% bland and this right from the start when he was just coach.

It’s yet another excuse being rolled out for him.

Kaz

Xhaka would play horrendous and Sippie would defend him like it was his baby. Deflecting the blame on everyone else

Arteta been cocking up for months, Pedro defends him like it’s his baby. Deflecting the blame on everyone else.

Guns of Hackney

I heard this description today: Donkey Walloper.

I’ve never heard that before. It’s my new go to put down. “You fucking donkey walloper”.

Arteta is a donkey walloper.

Sack him.

Matt

Pedro All valid points you make, but the problem is, everyone outside of the club can see the problems, but apparently everyone within the club are completely blind to them. Until that changes, none of the moves that you speculate might happen or need to happen just aren’t. Arteta will remain in his current role, that won’t change. Edu and Vinai will remain in their current roles, that won’t change. KSE will continue to oversee the complete shot show and that won’t change. The only thing that will happen is some panic buying in January where we will overpay massively… Read more »

Leftside

Arteta is not even on the F list. Football is about winning, not non-negotiables and this team under Arteta doesn’t win football matches. The players do not want to play for Arteta anymore. Senior players have a bee in their bonnet, our only goalscorer now has a phantom calf injury so where are the goals going to come from. The fixture list isn’t getting any easier either. Arsenal, as ever – are delaying the inevitable here and they will be forced to pull the plug in a few games time – when it could be done now and our season… Read more »

raptora

The ex AKBs are united again under the Arteta banner.

Very sad that this time Pedro is their leader.

Davey

We don’t have time this team under Arteta will go down, we need to stop thinking we are Arsenal and can’t happen to us because it will. When we are tanked by Chelsea and then beaten by Brighton maybe reality will kick in.

Kaz

I wouldn’t trust Arteta with a grocery shopping list.

Omozuafo Frank

Arteta cannot bail us out of this trouble he has put us into. The earlier he is sacked and another coach appointed the better. If care is not taken we will list are next two matches and then where will that place us.
Arsenal is more than the sh*t we are being served now. It will be better for Arteta to resign honourably and save himself the embarrassment of being sacked.

South African Gooner

ES

*****I retain the view still that Arteta is an excellent Head Coach,****

Mctominay scored as many goals in 2 minutes for Manchester United yesterday than Arteta’s Arsenal have in 10 games.

CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT?
The coaching??

My view is , Arteta is:

An appalling man manager,
Arrogant,
Over hyped and Overrated,
And surprisingly a truly wretched coach( see McTom stat)
But he is a brilliant blagger.

And I am right- and you rarely are.

Gladwin

For some on here looks like the way out of this mess is firing Arteta then we’ll be all good. We dug out way into this for a decade and then want to get out of it in 10 months. Edu was a bad choice with the type of decisions in the summer(indulging Kia).The movement in the last two games have been pretty decent. End product is creativity and confidence linked. We still will come away from December strong. Win the next 3 games in the prem and we will be in top 10 for sure.

Omozuafo Frank

*We will lose

raptora

Pedro will have a very rough awakening one day. Not that he had one with Gazidis who was literally a pathetic, useless CEO for so many years. He still believes him.

andy1886

Stroller, what evidence do you have that Arteta is an excellent head coach? Because I don’t see any evidence of that.

And your SAF point is irrelevent, at United obviously Ferguson was the key figure in winning all those titles not the myriad of coaches that he went through. Old Red Nose would never have employed a novice either,

NorwegianGooner

I’m with some on here that sacking Arteta now won’t help us much. With Partey and Martinelli back in the team we will be alright all things considered. Massive dross clear-out in the summer (could include Edu and Arteta) is the way forward. Getting Ragnick in ASAP would also help.

Willian, Xhaka, Elneny, Ceballos, Pepe, Laca, Bellerin, Luiz, Mustafi, Sokratis, Soares, Ozil, Kola, Torreira needs to go in my opinion.

Bergkamp63

“Most new managers go through a shitty patch like this in their careers, it’s just usually way out of sight of an elite club. Ralph H had it at Southampton last season, but no one remembers that now he’s fixed it. Jose Mourinho did this at Chelsea in 2015, he lost 9 games, he was fired by December 17th, Rafa took over, then Conte won the league the season after. Top football clubs bin underperforming managers… but we ain’t a top football club” Most on here will ignore facts and stick to their beliefs, it’s called Confirmation Bias: From Wiki:… Read more »

raptora

Gladwin: “Win the next 3 games in the prem and we will be in top 10 for sure.”

Another Pedro alt I see.

andy1886

“Win the next 3 games in the prem and we will be in top 10 for sure.”

That is some world class delusion right there.

into the red

You do get the impression that Vinai, Edu and Arteta have all bought into the self-preserving myth of ‘the project’, which means they can keep spouting excuses about the long term, while ignoring the mountain of evidence staring them in the face about the present. My guess. is that they. are desperately hoping that the run of games after Chelsea will see some respite, where they. can start talking up ‘progress’. If that goes wrong, they have nowhere to hide. If we pick. up some points, then a glorious mid table position will be trumpeted as proof of the ‘project’.… Read more »

Tom

The only one I have confidence in now is Josh Kroenke.
Clearly he has the talent to rescue the situation otherwise he wouldn’t be in this job without a merit.

Hopefully he’s as brilliant as Jared Kushner who also rose to the top from nothing on his abilities alone.
If Kushner could bring everlasting peace to Middle East, solve the pandemic and opioid crisis then Josh can certainly pull Arsenal out of this funk.

Graham62

Can someone please explain to me on what grounds did we hire Arteta?

Simple English please.

Graham62

We will not win our next three games in the EPL.

No chance whatsoever.

Jamie

Tom trying to steal my sarcasm crown.

Let the games begin.

Graham62

I think Pedro is playing us all.

Eduardo

Staying in the Premier League is not worth it? OK.

Emiratesstroller

Andy1886 I know that there are a large number of critics who post on Le Grove, but let me remind you and others that before the start of this season Arteta had won FA Cup and Community Shield as well as having beaten Man Utd, Liverpool [2 times], Chelsea and Manchester City. Also considering that Arsenal’s defence had leaked like a sieve under both Wenger and Emery in last 3-4 seasons he was not performing that poorly in his solutions in defensive department before start of this season. I agree that the football played since Wenger has left the club… Read more »

Richard Bluestone

If we lose the next 3 games against Chelsea, Brighton, and WBA relegation become a serious prospect, and I can’t see how Arteta can continue. Edu should also go too because of Ozil, Socrates and Willian. Why keep Socrates when he could have gone for a free and we can’t play him anyway? We got Willian in place of Ozil – how bad is that?

Tom

“what evidence do you have that Arteta is an excellent head coach? Because I don’t see any evidence of that.” Have you heard him speak and answer questions Andy? Does he sound like he doesn’t have all the answers? What about all the insightful coaching he does from the side lines , like pass and move? Groundbreaking stuff. I keep going back to this little detail and it might be nothing but still, you ask Klopp a question and the first thing he’ll do in most cases is take a breath, then think for a few seconds and then try… Read more »

Black Snake

Personally I feel that even if Arteta does lose the next 5 league games the board wont sack him.

alexanderhenry

SA Gooner Indeed. If we’re going to put Stan and his track record under the microscope what you see is something as unpleasant as a dose of coronavirus. I’ve been banging on about how truly dreadful he is as an owner of arsenal or any sports club on here for years. More recently, after he bought up Usmanov’s shares combined with all the management restructuring, I gave up and adopted an ‘in spite of Stan’ position. In other words, we’re stuck with him, there’s nothing we can do about it, so maybe arsenal can prevail anyway. I really don’t know… Read more »

Tom

“Tom trying to steal my sarcasm crown.Let the games begin.“
You haven’t been around much Jamie and I’m just trying to fill the void.

Ishola70

ES

Arteta won the FA Cup and beat Liverpool in the league by playing big underdog tactics.

They were not progressive tactics. They turned out effective tactics but they were also basic tactics. Most of your players behind the ball and sporadic counters. This is not the tactics of a generational coach. They were temporary tactics to get a few results at the time.

He had to move on from these tactics to progress. He has failed.

Graham62

ES

You’re clutching at straws.

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Pierre

Despite the fact that i recognised where we were going months ago, and over 6 months ago called out the non negotiables, the continuous bullshit from Arteta and the ridiculous notion that if you are good on the training ground then you’re in the starting line up, i am not jumping on the Arteta out bandwagon. Despite the poor results recently, I can see an improvement , albeit slight, in our performances in the previous 5 league games.. Everton, southampton, tottenham , Burnley and Wolves, in 4 out of those 5 games we had more possession and more shots at… Read more »

raptora

In the same season Wigan won the FA Cup and got relegated.

Rich

If I’m a Xhaka enabler? Then whoever isn’t? is currently an Elneny enabler, because that’s our only current available alternative. Neither are good options, If I’m an Arteta enabler? Then whoever isn’t? is currently a Edu enabler, because that’s who we’d be tasking with replacing Arteta. A competent DOF doesn’t sign Xhaka or Elneny to begin with, and sign Willian, or give a 32yr old a mega 3 year deal Doesn’t allow KSE to essentially demote him, so a manager in one of the departments he’s supposed to be responsible for, has equal responsibility in the decisions you’re paying him… Read more »

raptora

Pierre: “I’m prepared to go against the grain and give Arteta more time.”

Wow, that’s so surprising. You’ve totally never ever done it before.

Mb

Will Conte be interested? The season Chelsea won was a good one.

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