Arsenal back at Wembley, will Arteta welcome back the outcasts?

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Well, here we are, 3 weeks after our FA Cup final win, it’s here, the season curtain-raiser… Arsenal vs Liverpool in The Community Shield.

It’s hard to say it’s not an important game. All games have a psychological value, a big win sets you up for a confident start. A big loss can send you into a nervous territory. We need a good start this season, we need to set a new tone after the horrendous first 4 months of last season. We need to signal that the new era was, in fact, kicked off with that stunning FA Cup final win.

Both teams will be unfit. We’ve only had a few training sessions. Liverpool are in the same position as us. It’ll be a leggy game. There really was no other option. If you blitz your players after they’ve spent two months playing 3 games a week, you will absolutely pay for that later in the season when you need energy in the legs.

The big worry for Arsenal is we really haven’t addressed our central midfield position. Well, we have new bodies. Matteo G is now back in the family and Mo Elneny is available and scoring goals. Doesn’t really fill you with the same confidence you might have taken from seeing Ceballos, Partey, or Aouar starting.

No news on whether Mesut will start. Though Arteta’s impassioned defence of the club for the way they dealt with the pay cuts does indicate he’s still pretty pissed about the German playmakers carry-on over doing his part. Our young Spanish coach is every bit the company man. He also said Raul left with honour, which is, errr… oh fuck it, best leave that be, this is a new season. NO GRUDGES.

Back to the LACK of players.

It is what it is. I think we just have to accept it’s really hard to operate in a slow window when you have no money to play with. Cries that Don Raul has been missed are ridiculous. Last summer was very slow to start with, then we did a financial madness that has us tied up in knots this summer.

Still, on the face of it, you can’t argue with what we’ve done so far.

Saliba, Gabriel, Willian, with Guendouzi and ESR as the LIKE A NEW SIGNING players. Feeling just like it did under Arsene Wenger.

One area the club hasn’t been messing around in is in the coaching department. Arteta is bringing in names that he likes. The two latest are Carlos Questa and Miguel Molina. Both look like the new breed of young coaches that are starting to make their mark on the game. They come from Atleti and Juventus, Dom from the podcast I recorded the other night tells me that Cuesta is a bit like Rene Maric in the sense that he made the opportunity himself by writing and doing analysis online that attracted attention. Not sure which coach it was, but a journo once asked, ‘how did you make it as a top coach without being a top player’, and the response was, ‘I had more time to study.’ You’ll see more of that. We’re moving into a new era of coaching. Bold ideas, great with data, deeply into psychology… major fucking geeks. I LOVE IT. Just gotta hope it all works out for Arsenal, can’t have everyone calling me a hipster melt when we’re bottom of the league in January.

‘WE NEED SEAN DYCHE IN THE BUILDING’

Some disappointing news coming out of the club that Emi Martinez will be exited if the right offer comes in. Raul had him down for £20m, but the club might have to accept as little as £10m. Think this is being driven by the player. He doesn’t want to sign a new deal unless he’s #1. We won’t give him that luxury, so he’ll likely go to Spain. Good luck to him.

Feels a bit shit that a player can be instrumental in the club’s success, then get bombed off… but you can’t ask for ruthless behavior then get angry when it happens to your fave. Martinez has a small sample of games to choose from. Bernd Leno has been consistently great for longer. We are skint. Life goes on. Let’s hope we get a decent back-up keeper. Someone that is huge, loves to catch, and can pass like a hero.

Arsenal Twitter sleuths have just noticed that Leonardo, PSG Sporting Director, followed Hector Bellerin. OMG.

Wolves moved on Doherty onto Spurs for £14m. I suspect that’ll mean Wolves up the offer for AMN. Again, I’d be sad, but if the cash is going to get mainlined into our midfield, I’ll accept the exit with good grace.

Right, on that note, I shall bid you farewell. Enjoy the game today. Football is back. Let’s hope it’s a fun game AND MORE SILVERWARE!

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London gunner

WE

LB in Robertson and Tierney.

I don’t know anything about the Scottish set up or team aside from these two players but I’d find a way to play both. Whether one as a winger or something else

WengerEagle

Aouar and Partey would be a brilliant CM pairing.

Presumably we unfortunately would still have to pair Partey with Xhaka behind Auoar who would be the more advanced of the three linking up with the forwards or maybe if we could snag Ceballos again he could play as a deep 6.

salparadisenyc

^Raul Sal-llehi^

Looool wished I go a sliver the cut he’s probably bitten off. Dudes deep in the dim sum for sure.

Another striker would be good as Eddie has a real goal hang vibe at moment. Anybody rate Edouard from Celtic?

CG

Captain

“””””I think you are massively underestimating Amn.””””

People have been underestimating my boy for a while.
Well even the Delinquents are waking up to the fact- we have a very very special and unique player on our hands.

the way he stroked the penalty home- leaving Allison lopsided and lumbered was testament to his skill ,nerve and ability.

Arsenal selling him to Wolves would be an absolute disgrace.

Buzzy

Man I was watching this match with the corner of my eye as I was on a one on one Zoom consultation with my client..it was worth $200 an hour for me and when Auba scored I have no fucking clue how I managed not to scream..my client understood somethings not right lol…fucking Arsenal I fucking love you ya little bitch

Emiratesstroller

AMN has just been called up by Southgate into England Senior Squad!!

WengerEagle

LG

Tierney as LM and Robertson at LB maybe although Robertson would probably fancy himself playing further forward with his ego and all.

I mean Alaba plays CM for Austria, wouldn’t be ridiculous to think one of them could play in midfield.

Batistuta

Sal

A big no to Brozovic, doesn’t do it for me. Got a big hard on for Rodrigo de Paul though. Absolute baller.

Juve terminating Higuains contract and agreeing a deal for Dzeko

Captain Tierney

Marc I don’t think Amn has world class potential but 3,4 years down the line I think he can be a starter for a top 6 side and a 35-40 mil player if he works on his weaknesses and finds and settles in his best position His best position might be in Midfield or wing back I believe. But he still needs a lot of work in his final 3rd ability to become a quality player in any of those positions. Right now in Arteta’s system his best position is definitely the specially crafted LWB role. He is also very… Read more »

Habesha Gooner

Marc
Anyone who isn’t vital should be sold. AMN, Lacazette, Guendouzi, Torriera, Elneny, Holding, Chambers, Mustafi, Sokratis

It means we can’t turn down offers for AMN hoping we can keep him and sell Guendouzi to bring in out targets. Sell every one on that list if there are suitable offers. We should bring in vital players like Partey. If we bring in every target then we can contemplate about keeping AMN and Lacazette. But if there are offers for them first, then sell them first.

WengerEagle

Dzeko is still quality and is levels above 2020 Higuain.

Dzeko’s probably the most underrated CF of the past decade.

Champagne Charlie

“I don’t remember you envisaging such a scenario ever before wherein we would fail to offload the likes of Torr, Guen and Laca. Pretty much every transfer related post of yours in the last 2 months had these 3 names in the exit list and it’s only now that you are doing a what-if analysis on the feasibility of us being able to sell them“ Because some things are assumed, in this case it’s the fact that we don’t get to pick and choose explicitly who we want out and want in – it’s also determined by the interest generated.… Read more »

Marc

Wasi

Great to hear his best position might be in Midfield or wingback.

If we can pick a side of the pitch he’ll be unstoppable.

WengerEagle

Edouard looks good but it’s so hard to assess players ripping up the SPL when it’s such a terrible league and Celtic are so far ahead of the competition.

Shame that the prices are so fucked nowadays. Celtic would probably look for 30m.

Captain Tierney

CG

‘Arsenal selling him to Wolves would be an absolute disgrace.’

And you are Massively over-rating him.

Marc

“Anyone who isn’t vital should be sold. AMN, Lacazette, Guendouzi, Torriera, Elneny, Holding, Chambers, Mustafi, Sokratis”

Does that mean Xhaka is vital?

Captain Tierney

WE

Dont forget we got Tierney from the same team and league. And 25 mil is a BARGAIN.

Habesha Gooner

Marc
To arteta he is. I am hoping we bring in 3 midfield players and make him play a backup role.

Ben+D

Just seen this stats somewhere: “Only Kevin De Bruyne (22) and Trent Alexander-Arnold (15) have provided more assists for Premier League sides in all competitions since the start of last season than Arsenal’s Bukayo Saka (13)”, and yet he’s not considered good enough for the England squad? Doesn’t make sense

Marc

Habesha

I hear there’s a kettle that needs boiling – surely Xhaka couldn’t fuck that up?

Habesha Gooner

Mikel Arteta just confirmed again that Pierre Aubameyang is “close” to extend his contract. Arsenal consider the agreement almost ‘reached and completed’, the deal is done – he turned down 2 other bids. Gabriel Magalhães will be announced soon. ⚪️🔴 #AFC #transfers
Fabrizio Romano

Arteta must really have the sauce to convince auba a Europa league team this year is the best option for him. He turned down bids. We might really go somewhere this season. No more false dawns.

WengerEagle

Bati

Who else do you like from Italy? Still got love for Chiesa?

Rodrigo De Paul, Musa Barrow, Boga, Correa, Fofana even possibly as an Aouar alternative?

Champagne Charlie

Would sooner get Depay for less than Edouard. Our front line has enough talented prospects in Saka, Nelson, Martinelli, even Eddie.

Depay is 26 and offers dependable quality right now.

salparadisenyc

“A big no to Brozovic, doesn’t do it for me..”

Our man Bati in Italy putting the marker down, always looked imperious to me in fact I rate him higher than Partey.

Better tackler and passer of ball not to mention his tattoo game is so Eastern Euro elite its hard not to piss oneself whilst in his presence. Big respect from Brozo

TR7

CC

‘You failed to mention the numerous times I’ve advocated for those players to be front and centre BUT that everyone is fair game and I’d not miss us selling anyone for the overall improvement in the Arsenal squad.’

I take it you wouldn’t mind If Xhaka were to be sold too 😛

Honestly we can get good money for the Swiss and it will give us more elbow room to keep AMN and EMI.

karim

Not sure selling Laca will bring enough dough to get a decent replacement.
I heard we were linked to Édouard or his predecessor Dembélé, again, not sure they’re improving us and they might cost an arm too.

Feeling rather optimistic about the season apart from that really.

Marko

You have already made up your mind that EMI and AMN should not be starters. I know you really really dislike AMN but he is proving many people including you wrong So Emi shouldn’t be a starter simply because he held it down while you better keeper was injured that’s not how it works. Impressing in a 10 game period for the first time in your whole career doesn’t all of a sudden make you a number one for a club with ambitions or for one looking at improving from it’s current decline. On AMN I still maintain that he’s… Read more »

Habesha Gooner

Batistuta
Is it because Brozovic is an Inter player?
I would love him as a partey alternative. I don’t think he is attainable though.

WengerEagle

Would Lyon not want silly money for Depay though?

Guy is a massive star and has the ability to back it up. Clearly has grown out of Lyon but they won’t let him go on the cheap.

Goes without saying that Depay is quality and would improve us a huge amount.

salparadisenyc

Really don’t see us plucking Aouar and Depay from Lyon.

Captain Tierney

With Allan poised to join Everton , Napoli need a replacement.
Torreira anyone?
They wanted him in the past too.
Torreira + Sokratis for 30mil sounds like a l deal to me and they cant claim poverty , they just spent 60mil on Osimhen and now have 25 mil from the Allan sale too.
Edu get on the phone now.

TR7

‘ I’m not at all surprised by certain Arsenal fans these days because as I’ve said for years our fanbase is notoriously stupid.’

Don’t call others stupid merely because you don’t agree with them. Can easily reel off a list of names you wanted us to sign which we thankfully didn’t but not interested in putting others down to make a case for my views.

Emiratesstroller

Marc You have quoted what I wrote earlier today. Okay I accept AMN played very well today. I accept that he makes a good squad player and if we don’t need to sell players I would keep him for his versatility. I have absolutely no qualms in offloading the other players on the list. They are not good enough for a team aspiring to finish in top 4 in EPL. Arsenal need to bring in at least two quality midfielders. Unless you can bring them in on loan that is going to cost around £80-90 million. If we are lucky… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

“I take it you wouldn’t mind If Xhaka were to be sold too 😛Honestly we can get good money for the Swiss and it will give us more elbow room to keep AMN and EMI.“

No, sell Xhaka and bring in Thiago and I’d be all for it.

But again, as I’ve long stated, that’s not going to happen because objectively that’s not optimising the improvement to replace your primary performers.

Funny that all the players I’ve touted as prime sale candidates over the last 12 months are on the chopping block…..

WengerEagle

Lol Marko I think we get it mate, you don’t rate Martinez and want him sold for the whopping 10 odd million that it will add to the coffers that will go towards paying for Partey and Aouar’s flights over.

You seriously expect Leno to play 60 games this season? Or you happy having fucking Macey as back up.

Captain Tierney

Depay is in the final year of his contract. Has about 10 months left before it expires.
Would easily be attainable for a fee in the 20-25 mil range.
Good player and can even be world class when playing to his full ability in a team built around him but I am personally not sold on him. Would much rather prefer Edouard.

Batistuta

Sal So it’s the tattoo for you then lol Eagle All those names you mentioned are probably the pick of the bunch but I’d add Luis Alberto to the mix, Milankovic Savic too but he’d cost an arm and a leg. Still have the hots for Chiesa but not a lot of Italians moving to England these days, looks destined for Juve at some point as he can’t stay in Florence forever . Sandro Tonali is moving to Milan, another i really like really but i wouldn’t say to Fofana, man’s got an unbelievable engine Habesha Lol nothing to do… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

Weagle

Depay is entering his final year, can negotiate a pre-contract in January with foreign clubs. Lyon have no European football either.

Marc

Emirates

My earlier comment wasn’t a criticism of what you’d said more an observation of where I feel we’re desperately short of players who are fit for purpose let alone the quality we need.

WengerEagle

Bati

Yeah Luis Alberto would be near the top of the list but Lazio will want stupid money plus they’re in a much stronger position next season to compete so he’s probably happy to stay put.

Brilliant player, hard to believe he slipped through the Liverpool net.

Marko

Don’t call others stupid merely because you don’t agree with them. No on the whole our fanbase is stupid it really is. We’re skint we need to improve our squad and people are getting pissy that we might be selling a garbage player to Wolves or Newcastle for 20 + million. It’s incredibly dumb. How people can complain about how bad we’ve gotten and still want to keep players like that around is beyond me. Lol Marko I think we get it mate, you don’t rate Martinez and want him sold for the whopping 10 odd million I actually don’t… Read more »

WengerEagle

Charlie

Huge fan of him but would be worried about his mobility post ACL. Hasn’t overly affected Fekir who I’d still like but it’s the death knell for some players reliant on their pace and movement.

Emiratesstroller

Marc

Yes we need to bring in quality midfielders and obviously the club needs to
find money for transfer fees.

My personal view is that Arsenal will bring in Partey before the transfer window closes. Obviously the preference is to do an exchange eg move Lacazette in the other direction.

However, my guess is that Arsenal will find the money by the time that the window closes. Any further players will require sales.

WengerEagle

Marko What player in their right mind would stay on at a club where they stepped in for an injured player and put in stellar performances en route to winning a trophy only to be booted out of the side as soon as said injured player is fit again? Let’s not pretend that Leno is Jan Oblak either, he has holes in his game and has looked vulnerable at times throughout the season. At the very least Martinez deserves to retain his spot until he gives Arteta a reason to drop him. What kind of message does that send to… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

Weagle

Was chosen ahead of Dembele after 6 months out in the CL latter stages, performed well even if rusty. Scored a hat trick yesterday in their first game of the new season.

He’s not explosive, but he’s quicker over the ground than Laca and more penetrating ball at his feet. I think he’d be a superb false 9 for us, but fancy we’re looking to get Auba central and save his legs longer term.

Batistuta

Eagle

He’s improved massively last 2 seasons and boy does he know how to beat a press and pick a pass. I almost want to cry each time i watch our midfield, we’d be so much better once we upgrade in that position

Batistuta

I’d have been all over Zielinski or Fabian Ruiz rather than Allan if i was Everton, seems like an underwhelming signing for that amount they’re reportedly spending on him. Interesting to see how James Rodriguez does in the premier league though

karim

Charlie

The ugliest hat-trick I’ve seen in my whole life but your point remains valid.

WengerEagle

James will be class for Everton, really is mind-boggling that they can get a player of that ability but only reason he’s going there is Ancelotti I suppose.

Reckon he’ll have a similar impact that Van Der Vaart had on the Spuds upon signing, comparable players on and off the pitch in terms of ability, reputation and even age [VDV was 27 signing for Spurs, James is 29].

Should have made the move a year earlier, he’s dicked around wasting a couple of his prime years which is a shame.

Marko

Let’s not pretend that Leno is Jan Oblak either

No one’s said that but again if people want to have a discussion about improving the goalkeeper position then by all means let’s have it but conversations about Martinez starting over Leno going forward on the basis of 10/12 games is silly.

karim

Eagle

Hopefully they’ll find a better song then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMVQmA_zazA&feature=share

gnarleygeorge9

All things bright & beautiful,
All Creatures great & small,
Arsenal won another trophy,
And tottenham won fuck all, again, again……!

Marko

At the very least Martinez deserves to retain his spot until he gives Arteta a reason to drop him.

People do realize that Leno did nothing to warrant being dropped outside of getting injured right? I get the feeling that people just can’t remember or are flatly disregarding his form prior to injury where he was actually having a good season. But anyway

WengerEagle

Marko Why are you trying to convolute Martinez starting over Leno as being a permanent fixture? You ever hear of this novel concept called healthy competition? We have two very good GK’s which is a great situation to be in and we ought to take advantage of that by having both looking to outperform each other. You’re incapable of grasping that it doesn’t mean we’re demoting Leno to no. 2, he’ll just have to work bloody hard to wrestle that starting spot back off of Martinez, as it should be. He had another top game today by the way if… Read more »

Marko

You’re incapable of grasping that it doesn’t mean we’re demoting Leno to no. 2, he’ll just have to work bloody hard to wrestle that starting spot back off of Martinez, as it should be. You mean the spot he earned and held down for the last two seasons he’ll have to get that back from the guy who replaced him for 10-12 games? Makes sense seems very fair. Again one of the better performers throughout the season but people seem to forget about that fact He had another top game today by the way if you want to add that… Read more »

salparadisenyc

James to Everton is so bizarre, coup for them but I feel he goes more Ozil there.
And nobody wants to pull an Ozil.

WengerEagle

‘You mean the spot he earned and held down for the last two seasons he’ll have to get that back from the guy who replaced him for 10-12 games? Makes sense seems very fair.’ ‘Held down’ lol, what a load of bollocks. Was he not alone in making the most individual errors that led to goals in the entire PL in his first season with 7? He was anything but holding things down in his first season. Look you’ve had a chub on for him since his Leverkusen days so I get it. Did he perform any better this season… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

Weagle

You seem to be dismissing the sentiment behind selling Martinez though, it’s not for shits and giggles.

Would you rather Leno and Martinez in goals or Leno and Partey added? That’s the angle people are coming from. Martinez wasn’t on the radar a year ago, but now there’s talk of up to 20 mil coming for him. There’s a clear decision to make there and idk how strong the justification is for keeping him over selling and reinvesting in obvious problem areas.

London gunner

Marko

Did martinez bang your gf? What’s your issue.

Its very common in football for players to take their chances when another player gets injured.. You have to have healthy competition in football you can’t just pencil leno in as number 1 for life.

Problem with you is you don’t belive in actual meritocracy or playing players down to form you just want to play players because of name recognition.

SpanishDave

What pisses me off is that Xhaka always plays, Arteta likes him!
Rarely gets subbed.

salparadisenyc

Very interesting to see what Arteta does with this goal keeping situation. It’s a harsh game, Leno may of done nothing barring ceding his position to injury but once it’s open… it’s a window in. In an ideal situation somebody fills it without missing a beat. Martinez has exceeded that, jumped thru the window and landed with a perfect 10. Each performance has been a showcase in ability and it definitely matches up to Leno’s, exceeds in certain areas. Not to mention he’s done it against the absolute top sides which only strengthens his argument. If i’m a manger I… Read more »

WengerEagle

Charlie

You play 50-60 matches over a full season incl EL competition, for that you need two good GK.

We literally have more than half a dozen players on the scrapheap we ought to look to be selling before considering to sell Martinez. Would be ridiculously short-sighted, if Leno went down with an injury again we’re looking at Macey.

We have Elneny, Kolasinac, Chambers, Mavropanos, AMN, Sokratis, Mustafi and Guendouzi still on the books and people are looking to sell Martinez?

WengerEagle

‘Problem with you is you don’t belive in actual meritocracy or playing players down to form you just want to play players because of name recognition.’

Exactly and it’s not Oblak, Navas or Neuer that we’re benching here. Leno has been hit and miss since he’s signed if we’re being honest and Martinez since he’s been in the side has been every bit as good and better imo than Leno since he’s joined.

WengerEagle

‘Not to mention he’s done it against the absolute top sides which only strengthens his argument.’

Another good point, we’re not talking about performing against unpronouncable Eastern bloc sides in the EL, he’s doing the business against Liverpool, Man City and Chelsea.

mb

F*ck the top4. I am cheering for winning the premier league this season.

Carts

“James will be class for Everton, really is mind-boggling that they can get a player of that ability but only reason he’s going there is Ancelotti I suppose”

Yames is going to probably start the few couple games pulling strings till he blows his load after 65-70 mins

Once he’s been sussed he’ll go missing then get flogged to China for 20m.

Remember: he’s 29, he hasn’t played much football in the last couple season for various reasons. Not particularly athletics, or explosive for that matter.

I’m not feeling this one.

London gunner

WE For me its that martinez hasn’t just been good as in a good in a pinch good or good as in he has exceeded low expectations good. He has shown complete performances and hasnt looked out of place in this arsenal side. I am a centrist so I don’t go to extremes all I can say is martinez has had less dodgy moments, errors or perfomances than leno and has shown improvements in certain areas. But its also a smaller sample size and there is a chance over a prolonged run of games these weaknesses or mistakes appear but… Read more »

WengerEagle

Good to see you around these parts again Carts my guy. Not feeling Hhhhames no? I’m a self-confessed ‘fanboy’ as Bamford would term. Huge admirer of his ability and I’ve seen him carry Colombia NT in a way that Ozil never could so don’t think t he comparisons are too apt. Like these signings in the past, he’s either going to take the PL by storm or be an absolute expensive disaster. I fancy him to hit the ground running initially, lot will depend on the support that Everton give him though. Hardly have the most clinical front 2 in… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

Weagle

Come off it, you can pickup a decent number two for peanuts and the likelihood of needing them in a normal season is minimal at the best of times.

Same argument for AMN, you can draw up a list of preferred outs all you like but do you ignore clear interest in players you’re not sure you want to sell and then not shift the ones you want to? Sounds like a royal way to fuck a window. Can speculate who you fancy selling all day, but when offers and interest is real it needs addressing.

andy1886

As has already been mentioned it’s not simply that keeper A is better than keeper B, they are two different type of player. Martinez in my opinion is a better option because he catches rather than punches, he commands the box better which when we’ve been vulnerable from set pieces is a great attribute, he’s more physically imposing, and has frequently proven to be good in one-on-ones. Leno may be a better shot stopper but he isn’t going to suddenly stop punching rather than catching (thus handing the ball back to the opposition rather than retaining it), and he isn’t… Read more »

Carts

I remember that cold night in Berkshire where Reading put 5 past Martinez…for those of you that don’t remember, we still went on to win 7-5 – in typical comedic fashion.

If you had told me that 8 years later Martinez could well be going into 20/21 as our #1 keeper I’d have told you to eat a dick. Now here we are.

Does Dejan Iliev still play for Arsenal?

WengerEagle

Well said LG.

He may well be going through a purple patch but the only way we’ll find out for sure is to keep him in the XI until he shows us otherwise.

You don’t just bench a lad playing that well. You ride that train until the wheels come off.

salparadisenyc

“You don’t just bench a lad playing that well. You ride that train until the wheels come off.”

And then keep riding until the sparks fly.

WengerEagle

Charlie

There has been real interest from Schalke in Kola and Wolves in AMN.

What real interest has there been in Martinez? A rumour about Villa? And it was for 10m the one that I saw, by the time you replace him with even a cheap no.2 you’ve made what, a 5m profit?

That might be enough to buy Partey’s left ankle.

Carts

Weagle

Always a pleasure, fam!

Spend most nights lurking like a serial nonce than I do posting. LG still best site closely followed by Keezmovies (for all the Marvel flicks and shit).

I like James, don’t get me wrong but Everton are fucking pony; and to really get most out of James they need far more better attackers. Theodore on the right, Sigurdsson on the left…DEAD lol.

What you saying…Phil Jones and Shelvey aren’t pulling his weight in the looks department? Fucki it, get James in here ASAP!!!

WengerEagle

Carts

Oh I remember boy, Feodore hat-rick and a Chamakh daddy-dick brace for the ages in ET.

Chamakh and Bendtner leading the line, those were very dark days.

Upstate Gooner

Carts
I remember that cold night in Berkshire where Reading put 5 past Martinez

Bayern put 8 against Ter Stegen. Does that mean he’s crap? Anyone can have a night off especially when your defense is playing like shit in front of you. Oh, and I remember that game very well. Theo was unstoppable.

Upstate Gooner

“He’ll handsome up the PL at least, we’ve taken quite a knock since Graziano Pelle was sold to China and Giroud was made less visible through excessive benching.”

LOL. Pelle was a handsome devil for sure. And I swear, my wife even watched a couple of Arsenal games here and there when we had Ollie (she doesn’t care for footy or sports in general) so that definitely says something.

WengerEagle

Pedro

And I know that it probably counts for little but Auba and the lads seem to love him and the defenders really do have faith in him back there. An air of authority I haven’t seen since mad Jens, talented as Shezzer was he never really put them at ease like that.

Carts

Upstate

Calm your tits – I didn’t say he was crap!

I simply made an observation.

Champagne Charlie

Weagle The real interest was more the fact Orny was spouting his intention to leave and that we wanted 20 mil. Kolasinac is a loan waiting to happen and AMN has Wolves up his arse but he too is getting the ‘no, can’t sell Ainsley’ treatment. It’s a piece of piss to pick your worst 5 players and want them out, but at some stage the realities and demands of the window need digested. Arsenal want Partey and Aouar, two players that massively improve us in key areas. Who of allllll the possible sales is a ‘no’ when that outcome… Read more »

Paulinho

Actually think there is fair chance Arteta will prefer Elneny over Guendouzi.

He’s the more efficient, disciplined footballer of the two. Shame he’s such a lightweight physically.

G

Gutted when we sold Rocky and would b nearly as gutted if we sell Martinez even for 20mill..shd start as no. 1 till Leno can displace him..

Carts

Elneny lol

He looked fire when we first bought him, but he fell off so damn quick under Wenger’s tutelage.

Marko

Did he perform any better this season than Martinez? Martinez played 23 matches to Leno’s 32. Honest question.

I mean circumstances were a bit different but yeah wasn’t Bernd like voted second best player or something for the season

Jamie

Good ebening.

Our defending was an absolute shambles under Emery, so I think Leno did well under the circumstances.

Impossible to ignore that everyone seems to be improving under Arteta. Still fairly stunned we’ve beaten Liverpool twice and City once in the space of 6 weeks.

Stoked.

Champagne Charlie

“Our defending was an absolute shambles under Emery, so I think Leno did well under the circumstances.“

This is being wildly overlooked for me. Martinez didn’t come into a shambles of a side and turn it on, he turned it on behind the most drilled Arsenal defence of the past decade.

At least introduce that into the equation when discussing the two. Leno earned his plaudits with a horror show in front of him.

Marko

This is being wildly overlooked for me. Martinez didn’t come into a shambles of a side and turn it on, he turned it on behind the most drilled Arsenal defence of the past decade.

I would say better but agree with the sentiment behind it. Martinez done well filling in for Leno and that’s it but he was very much helped by stability and a back 5 though meanwhile Leno had to perform under 3 managers and a shit show defence that conceded a fuck tonne of shots every game earlier in the season

alex cutter

Classy for Auba to do the ‘Wakanda Forever’ celebration after his goal.

Pierre

Just accept that Martinez is first choice as he is the more accomplished keeper.

It’s as clear as day.

salparadisenyc

Literally a thread I never thought possible after the long slow dirge of keepers we’ve endured.

Almunia, Fabianski, Mannone, Szczęsny, Cech who looked tepid much of the time with our defense ahead. To now be litigating every potential point of our current situation, Martinez vs Leno.

Its only rock n roll but I like it.

luke

@Pierre, I love Martinez too, but he hasnt ever shown this form with fans in the stadium. I don’t think that should be overlooked necessarily. Think we should keep both of them FWIW, but if we could get good $ for either one of them that would help us fix the midfield then so be it.

Graham62

When was the last time we could say, without doubt, that Arsenal’s defence was well drilled?

Some on here were probably still on the Farley’s Rusks.

Pierre

London gunner
“Marko
Did martinez bang your gf? What’s your issue.”

That’s quite amusing…

The thought of Marko having a girlfriend I mean..

Pierre

Graham
Try and resist the need to bring everything back to Wenger …it tends to make you look a little obsessive.

China1

Dissenter I don’t think it’s a new rule for keepers on penalties, it’s just enforcing one that was there for decades and usually inexplicably ignored by the refs

Penalties are supposed to favour the striker – otherwise it wouldn’t be much of a penalty.

I’m glad the rules should finally get enforced tho I’ve no confidence that PL refs will manage to do so consistently because they’re hopeless, but still

Bojangles

Martin Keown telling Arteta he should be making Martinez no 1. I know Keown is not the sharpest tool in the box but I give him credit for knowing a bit more about football and footballers than the LG experts.