Mourinho winnertivity comes with baggage

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In politics, if you are susceptible to conspiracy theories or have mused through history books, politicians have through history created situations that prompt the people to have their civil liberties taken away. Take Hitler burning down the Reichstag as an example.

In some ways, the football equivalent of that is happening at Arsenal at the moment.

The Unai Emery shit show is so bad, the people are begging the club to make things worse by bringing in a percieved solution that feels right in the moment (take my freedom to ensure safety), but when things calm down, we’ll realise we’re in a dictatorship we can’t escape (Jose Mourinho soft coup).

The Portuguese manager has, for the first time in his entire career, softened his stance towards the not-so-mighty Arsenal. This week, he was spotted in an exec box at Arsenal catching a bit of Europa League football. As ways of passing time go, this seems suspicious. It’s like finding out your partner has swapped Instagram for Tinder as a way to keep up with her friends. It doesn’t add up. Most Arsenal fans couldn’t muster the energy to go to the game.

A large section of Arsenal fans are clawing for a move that seems obvious. Jose makes sense. He’s won the league in living memory, he has an excellent understanding of the language and culture, he’s probably the purest pragmatist in the modern game, his track record with African players could be beautiful for Pepe. He will absolutely fix our defence with the tools we have on offer. He would more than likely make us a top 4 team this season.

… but there’s a catch. While you’re begging for Jose to bail you out of your footballing misery, consider the following.

Jose Mourinho is a chequebook manager in every sense of the word. He long gave up sharpening his coaching skills in favour of filling his team full of elite players to push his trophy ambitions. Peak Jose, when he was at Inter Milan, appears to be a distant memory. The job he did at United looks increasingly positive against PE coach, OGS, but be honest, for that outlay, the end product was drab.

To counter the above, I was informed that Jose doesn’t have a backroom team at the moment and he’s apparently in the market for one. If he has accepted that his approach has to develop, and he adds some world-class minds to his brain trust, then you might be talking an evolved beast. On paper though, if he’s the same old Jose, he’s only going to work if he has money to burn. Arsenal spent the money for next summer, when he finds out the coffers are empty, he’ll be a nightmare. Excuses galore, leaks to the press, and a grey cloud of misery will cloud the stadium.

Secondly, Jose brings a big backroom team. That means any visions Raul had of controlling the infrastructure would be gone. Hiring in a manager with a big backroom team is a soft coup. It insulates the manager and gives him control of aspects of the club he shouldn’t have control over. It can also cause cliques. If Jose brings the early days of his career back and we’re winning, it’s good times all round, if he doesn’t, firing him could cost us a fortune. His 2007 sacking cost Chelsea £23m. His United sacking last year cost £19m.

Then there’s the football. Wooooah boy, it is not pretty. However, it’s usually effective. But note this, if you go from Emeryball, which is fucking atrocious, then reengineer the squad to Mourinhoball, you basically say goodbye to the beautiful game. WengerDNA would be wiped out within two managers. That means if you ever want to welcome a Fonseca or a Rose, you’ll have to invest in different players, and likely lose a season of competitiveness as the squad gets used to having the ball at their feet.

There’s also the theatrics. Arsenal, is generally a liked club. Jose, generally, does not play by the rules of most managers. He creates a theatre that revolves around him. This is a guy who abused his own physios for doing their jobs, a man that gouged another man’s eye in the El Classico, there are countless shocking behavioural examples that should concern you as you clamour for winnertivity. Remember, in 2008 when Barca were chasing him, they had to end conversations because he wouldn’t abide by their conduct policy (namely, don’t be awful).

… putting all that to one side. The reality for Raul and Edu is they don’t have any wiggle room this season. It’s literally Champions League or bust. They need top 4 and outside Allegri, who hasn’t managed in the Premier League, there’s no other manager that is more suited to rebooting this season (outside maybe Benitez). He would be the ultimate short-term stopgap, but the fear would be the 4 year deal, because you know it’ll end like most Jose adventures… at 3 years, with plenty of tears.

Right, that’s me done. See you tomorrow. x

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Bamford10

Un Na

“The very worst version of Wenger was still better than Emery.”

This is false, and I will show it to be so. Let’s start with the following simple and important point: in Wenger’s final season, we finished with 63 points, in 6th place and 12 points off of 4th; in the following season, Emery’s first season, we finished with 70 points, in 5th place, and only one point off of 4th.

Emery improved on Wenger. End of.

Un na naai

Bojangles

Ok. Technically it’s my opinion

It’s still a better record than emery’s though and it was wengers worst ever season at arsenal

David Smith

Honestly think it could be the end of Emery if they lose today

Marc

Un Sorry but you’re re writing a bit of history there to suit your argument. Was Wenger at his best when Dein was operating as a de facto DOF yes of course but it was Wenger who stopped the club bringing in new people. Surely you remember the quotes along the lines of “What does a DOF do direct the traffic” and how he wouldn’t operate under a DOF. Wenger became his on worst enemy and caused his own downfall. If you want to criticise Emery you don’t have to try and erase how poor Wenger had become to do… Read more »

Pierre

Dissenter
“It’s agenda driven because Ozil was on the decline for Germany and Arsenal long before Emery showed up at Arsenal;”

Per Opta Joe, Ozil actually created more chances (5.5) per 90 minutes than any other players at the 2018 World Cup finals.

That was 15 months ago.

And this was the season before Emery arrive ..4th most creative player in Europe…is that a massive decline.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.planetfootball.com/quick-reads/europes-top-10-creators-of-2017-18-hazard-payet-ozil-de-bruyne/&ved=2ahUKEwjbtp-8p7zlAhWMRBUIHUgACW4QFjASegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw09DGMD5xd8AZLsMx_yTFoh&cshid=1572174976697

“15 Oct 2018 · Birthday boy Ozil is the most creative player in Europe … 932, David Silva fourth on 886, and Lionel Messi fifth on 861.”

Marc

Dissenter

Mustafi is dead long live King of the fuck up Xhaka.

Un na naai

Emery’s first season, we finished with 70 points, in 5th place, and only one point off of 4th.

Emery had £70m worth of defensive recruits and a fit and firing lacazette and Aubameyang.

Had Wenger had either for a full season he’d have amassed more than an additional 70 points

How far they are from the top or league position is inconsequential if he didn’t attain champions league football

Wenger in his final 47 won more games
Scored more goals
Conceded less
Had more clean sheets

Fact

Dissenter

Un na
Wenger tied his hands behind his back when he resisted the clubs attempts to surround him with a modern backroom. You see… technical directors direct traffic.
You keep bringing us back to Wenger.
I want Emery gone, doesn’t mean I don’t think Lord Wenger wasn’t utter shite at the end of his reign.

Un na naai

Marc

Yes
Wenger had become poor when compared to his former self

Still in his worst season as manager he won more games and scored more goals than a man given an extra £200m worth of new players

Un na naai

Dissenter

Yes he was utter shite at the end of his tenure

Was still better than emery though
Not saying we shouldn’t have sacked him. Just saying it was pointless to sack him only to hire someone worse

Peckobill

Emery’s reason for playing torreira or even Willock in the advanced midfield position is for the high press but it’s so flawed because of his self imposed Achilles heel . Pepe and Saka pressure the full backs , auba and torr/Willock pressure the cb’s , guen advances to pressure the oppositions deep midfielder and then the problem starts i.e xhaka . 1) he’s too slow to pressure the other mid and 2 ) if they break our press xhaka is left too exposed on the counter hence our mayhem that soon happens in and around our box . He can’t… Read more »

Marc

Un

So fucking what it’s irrelevant.

Wenger was shit and had to go.

Emery is shit and unless he performs a miracle turnaround will be gone.

One has nothing to do with the other.

Pierre

Paulinho
“The big thing that Torreira has over Ozil in that role is an ability and willingness to get into the box”

2018/19

Ozil…total 6 goals

Torreira….total 2 goals

bennydevito

What a surprise, Pierre doubling down in denial that the club have decided not to play Ozil. 🙄 They want him off the wage bill because he doesn’t offer value for money so by not playing him they hope it will speed up his exit. Really not that hard to understand. Playing him is no less a waste of money than not playing him as he delivers very little output on the pitch. He’s not going to rediscover his Madrid form and is not Arsenals future, he is the past. Pierre banging your little Ozil drum even harder is just… Read more »

bennydevito

Well said Marc. Wenger was shite the last few years. Abysmal.

Dissenter

Pierre
You really think Ozil had a good World Cup?
I’ll reply you with Benjamin Disraeli’s famous quote; “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics”
You guys have some good ganja in London if you stuff you post about Ozil.
He has a brief burst when he was angling for a new contract at late summer/autumn of 2017 and also showed up for the Leicester game in the summer of 2018…since then he’s been a limp you-know-what.

Dissenter

* You guys have some good ganja in London if you believe the stuff you post about Ozil.

Bojangles

“Had Wenger had either for a full season he’d have amassed more than an additional 70 points.
…….

Fact”

Again?

Were all entitled to our own opinions but we are not entitled to our own facts.

Marc

Un You keep talking about the £70 million of defensive recruits Emery was given. What about the £35 million wasted on Mustafi? What about the £35 million wasted on Xhaka? What about the £100,000 per week Kolas is on? A player who can’t play as a LB and we now can’t sell because of his salary? What about refusing to sell Sanchez for £60 million and then swapping him for Miki a player we now can’t sell? Using Wenger as a stick to beat Emery just provides Emery with an excuse for the shit show he had to take over… Read more »

bennydevito

Last season Wenger pts 63 won 19 lost 13.
First season Emery pts 70 won 21 lost 10

Emery was better, not even a debate..

Cesc Appeal

TR7

That’s one of the biggest indictments of Emery right now though, no results shocks anybody in any fixture.

If you said we will have a great performance and annihilate Palace today I could buy it, a draw, a loss, a narrow win, a thumping loss…I could buy them all.

That’s how you know things are bad.

After the Sheffield result I think most people weren’t bothered because they kind of expected it…that is Wenger levels of bad.

Bamford10

As many have highlighted, we have conceded far too many shots at times this season and last, and this has been a problem. However, as I mentioned yesterday, there is reason to believe the coaching staff is trying to address this. What is the evidence for this? Well, in our first five PL matches this season — which includes the very poor defensive performance against Watford five weeks ago — we conceded an average of 19.2 shots per game. In the four matches since then, however, this number has fallen to 12 shots per game. While this is only one… Read more »

Pierre

Benny
So what happens when the new manager comes on and wants to use Ozil ( which he will do) ..

Are the club going to say ,sorry you can’t play Ozil because it is a club decision to pay him 350 grand a week and not use him.

It interests me how they will overcome that problem if it is true that it is a club decision.

Any ideas Benny

bennydevito

Glad to see SA knock the Welsh out. Really didn’t fancy them in the final at all.

SA will not be easy by any stretch, but they will not have the motivation of getting one over their hated rivals.

Dissenter

Marc
Be careful though
You will find yourself arguing for Emery trying to push back against the agenda driven criticism of the likes of Unai na. Some people attack Emery based in Wenger nostalgia, they are pretty much Wenger hold-outs.
Like you said, Wenger’s decline in competence and Emery’s erratic management [or lack of it] are two separate issues.

Paulinho

Pierre – Emery wants his most advanced midfielder to have the balls to make runs into the box at places like at OT, not be a complete fanny and spend the game forty yards from goal near the touchline.

Scoring against shite like Brighton at home doesn’t change that.

Peckobill

Always excited on game day but the heart will sink yet again at around 3:30 when the team sheet is out and we see sok, kolasanic , and xhaka in the team and see our drab half a mile an hour football taking about a month to get from defence to attack and watching palace dominate us at home . Sad times

Pierre

Benny
“Playing him is no less a waste of money than not playing him as he delivers very little output on the pitch”

Is it not true that it’s been reported that since Emery has been at the club our most creative player is Ozil .

Despite hardly playing.

Pierre

Paulinho
“Scoring against shite like Brighton at home doesn’t change that.”

Maybe a goal against shite like Sheffield United may have been exactly what we needed .

Marc

Dissenter

I’m not defending Emery simply because I can differentiate between the two managers and have no emotional ties or nostalgia on the subject.

What Wenger did has now effect on what Emery does later today.

Marc

Pierre

What are you going to do when Ozil leaves the club? Most likely in January.

Pierre

Paulinho
“Emery wants”

Who gives a toss what Emery wants , he is out of his depth and sinking fast.

Marc

“Who gives a toss what Emery wants , he is out of his depth and sinking fast.”

Who gives a toss what Ozil wants , he is out of his depth and sinking fast.

Paulinho

Pierre- – If you can explain where Ozil comes into that particular equation that would be handy.

‘Needing’ a goal at Sheffield and Ozil doesn’t quite marry up.

Dissenter

Pierre
The club will replace Ozil next summer.
His contract is considered a business loss at this point.
If Arsenal was a real estate business in the states, they would be able to find creative ways to deduct his salary as a loss. He will have only one year left after next summer. He can hang around playing his fortnite in 2020-21. I remember seeing the video of his home- the dude has a separate gaming room…good for him.

Pierre

Marc
I’m honestly not bothered if Ozil stays or go but the amount of bullshit written about the situation is laughable.

There are many better players than Ozil out there who can do a better all round job than Ozil, but at this present time Arsenal football club would do better to utilise his his talents .

Paulinho actually thinks Torreira is more effective as CAM , that’s the level of ignorance of the game that we are dealing with.

Bamford10

Palace can be a dangerous team, and our two matches with them last season were two in which we conceded too many shots on goal (16 in both, versus a sesason average of 12). So it will be interesting to see if we can keep this in check today.

Of course, if our midfield features Xhaka, and if our defense features Kolasinac, Sokratis and/or Chambers as a fullback, it won’t be surprising if we do give up too many shots on goal; there will be a clear reason for it: lack of pace, poverty of personnel.

bennydevito

Pierre, Well yes you’ve just answered your own question. I imagine that any contract negotiations and dialogue at the interview stage will make it clear that Ozil isn’t available. Any new manager will have to agree to that IF the club have made that decision. At the end of the day Pierre you just don’t like it or agree with it and see Ozil as a wasted asset, and I understand that completely. I also agree that the treatment is odd and perhaps counter productive considering our lack of fluid attacking football at present, but it is what it is… Read more »

Marc

Pierre

I agree playing Torreira as a CAM is not the way forward (I’m being polite). But for you to make the following statement:

“I’m honestly not bothered if Ozil stays or go but the amount of bullshit written about the situation is laughable. ”

Do you know how many are laughing at you right now on here?

bennydevito

Tbf I think playing Torreira as CAM instead of DM is pretty stupid quite honestly.

Bamford10

Dissenter

“The club will replace Ozil next summer.”

This really needs to happen in January. As I’ve stated previously, we may not need Mesut Ozil per se, but we do need more attacking midfield play — more 10-ish play, more 8+ play — and it isn’t clear we have this player in the squad at the moment.

Peckobill

Bamford
Add to that poor team selection and a lack of a cohesive attacking game plan

bennydevito

At the end of the day if Ozil has decided to see out his contract we may as well play him. Then we either offer him a new contract on half the wages or no contract at all and Ozil then leaves anyway. I’d sooner utilize Ozil for an hour every home game than not at all as it makes no difference to shelling out £350K pw.

Bamford10

Benny

There is no chance Emery thinks of Torreira as a #10. As I said the other day, he has played him in that more advanced role because he knows he needs a skillful, energetic midfielder who can get forward there. He is looking for something like what he had in Verratti. He clearly thinks that Torreira might be able to give him what Verratti gave him. Whether Torreira can give him this is another question.

Pierre

Marc
It’s true , if we brought in someone better that’ll do for me .

Most agree that Emery’s treatment of Ozil is detrimental to the team and to me , that’s all that matters .

Dissenter

The club should have done more to move out Ozil the moment he uttered the silly abuse at the manager in Baku. He was a nonentity for 77 minutes, Özil had just 41 touches in this match. He was really bad that game and would even lift the youngster coming to replace him.
They had to move him out once they decided to continue with project Emery. They didn’t ….so we are stuck with all this drama.

S Asoa

Reg Ozil Probably started when Emery joined and Ozil was being “ disciplined “ for training ground incident. In his usual inferiority complex dictated method Emery tried to make an example of the biggest star with a view of asserting control. Naturally the wound Emery opened has festered badly since. “ The whole thing is an absolute mess, and it’s unbecoming of a club which supposedly prides itself on its values and all that. Right now, after what the manager has said, we have an even bigger mess on our hands and it’s one that probably needs to be addressed… Read more »

Bamford10

Pierre

“Most agree that Emery’s treatment of Ozil is detrimental to the team”

No, most do not agree with this. There is absolutely no evidence to support this claim whatsoever. And more importantly, Edu, Sanllehi and Emery do not agree with this.

Emery’s sidelining of Ozil — something that has been brought on by Ozil’s bad behavior, btw — has been “detrimental” to you and your sensibilities and preference, not the team.

The club is moving on; you should try to do so as well.

Marc

Dissenter

I agree with 99% of what you say there with one small exception.

“They had to move him out once they decided to continue with project Emery”

I don’t think a different manager would look to suddenly build a team around Ozil. The guy is finished, if there are other top managers out there why aren’t clubs from top leagues knocking on the door to bring him in?

Pierre

Dissenter
“. He was a nonentity for 77 minutes, Özil had just 41 touches in this match. ”

Yeah….playing Ozil as a man marker was a pretty stupid decision .

Ozil’s words ” you are not a coach” are proving to be very perceptive words.

Peckobill

A front 3 of auba , Pepe and Saka possesses blistering pace so why don’t emery try and keep things simple and pay to our strengths. Play guen with either torreira or Ceballos and ozil or Ceballos as 10 depending who partners guen . The front 3 gets released quicker in more advanced dangerous positions rather than slow and deep . We give up chances who ever we play so why not utilise our strength and use our attack to blow them away . This is why emery doesn’t know what he’s doing , he hinders our strengths and plays… Read more »

Pierre

Bamford
“bad behavior” ?

What do you regard as “bad behaviour ” .

Previously it was said by Emery that Ozil was out for “tactical reasons ” and then “not deserving of a place ” and now we have a new one….” bad behaviour “.

Bamford10

* preferences

Valentin

So Bamford started to argue that Arsenal under Emery has improved from Wenger. The world showed him stats that proved him wrong. Wenger last 47 games were better than Emery first 47 games. So now Bamford moved to Emery has improved since the Watford disaster. Basically his argument is Emery is shit but not as shit as five weeks ago. Pure genius. I can only imagine what real Harvard alumni think when faced with such logic. The second half performance against Watford was so bad that even Southampton losing 9-0 faced less shots (25 shots) than Arsenal did during that… Read more »

Un na naai

Marc

It’s not irrelevant. My point is that we already had someone superior to what we have now.

And what weneger did does affect emery
There would be no holding, no bellerin, no lacazette or Aubameyang without wenger.

There would be no 60,000 seater stadium, no state of the art training ground, no £200m to spend on players without him.

Ishola70

Peckobill

The curse of Granit Xhaka is strong.

The curse extending to managers keep picking him for their teams.

I mean even the great man Arsene Wenger was struck down by the curse.

It’s strong.

Samesong

Who was ever excited with the Xhaka signing.
All I remembering hearing is that he had a powerful shot lol.

Valentin

Bamford,

Veratti never played as No10 for PSG for Emery, he mostly play as No8 sometimes as a No6. Neymar or Angel Di Maria plays this role. The year before it was Thiago Motta, Pastore or Adrian Rabiot with sometimes Julian Draxler or Angel Di Maria.

You would have noticed that every single one of those players is the complete opposite of an energetic No10 who tackle.

Manxgooner

Until Arsenal improve offensively then no body can blame Ozil!

I still can’t see what he has actually done wrong other than not run around like a lunatic (pressing) as some call it.

You can defend from the front with out running around like a madman throwing tackles in..

Ozil is %100 our best footballer but it seems everyone is more concered about pressing? Load of bollox

Bamford10

Pierre “What do you regard as ‘bad behaviour’?” Not putting in effort in training, disrespecting the manager, loafing, dogging it, being a self-absorbed, arrogant, entitled twat. That is, being Mesut Ozil. Of course there were “tactical reasons” to begin with: we’ve moved to a high-energy-on-both-sides-of-the-ball approach. Mesut Ozil is low-energy on both sides of the ball. Emery was generous enough to give Ozil ample opportunities last season to demonstrate that he could fit in to the new approach and contribute. At times there were signs that Ozil could do this; most of the time, however, there was clear evidence why… Read more »

Un na naai

Manx Come on. He wasn’t affecting games the way a £43m £350k PW no10 should be. The man is childish little arse hole and we should upgrade. That said he creates over 100 chances in the premier league per season (insane stat that one) and we are in dire need of some creativity right now. Yes he’s a passenger in big games or on nippy away days but he still creates and that’s what we need right now. Dropping him hasn’t made us harder to beat or even to create openings against, its only made us worse going forward so… Read more »

Ishola70

Samesong “Who was ever excited with the Xhaka signing. All I remembering hearing is that he had a powerful shot lol.” He nearly scored a very good goal against Sheff Utd the other night didn’t he. That strike from distance that their keeper had to turn over the bar. If that had gone in then his ever dwindling fans or at least those that still feel the need to back him would be on the case telling us that he is so much better than he is being portrayed as. But they don’t want to take on board that he… Read more »

Paulinho

“Who was ever excited with the Xhaka signing.
All I remembering hearing is that he had a powerful shot lol.”

There were some corkers the day we signed him. Finally we had signed someone that can do this and that.

Bamford10

Pierre

“Ozil’s words ‘you are not a coach’ …”

I love that you quote Ozil as saying this, yet ask about what I might mean by “bad behavior”. Ummm, that’s a pretty good example of it, mate. And I’m sure there are many more such examples that we do not know about.

Move on; the club has.

PieAFC

I never want Arsenal to lose. But I can’t see anything other than a draw or a really bad defeat even if we pepper their goal. Hodgson knows how to set up teams against us, especially the big teams away from home. They’ll also know the fans are rattled lately with sub par performances, perfect time to play us. I’m just worried Palace will score first and that will send the stadium and the fans on a downward spiral and we’ll be hit on the break with Schlupp, Townsend, Zaha having absolute freedom to kill the game. My head is… Read more »

Bamford10

* the away fans

Pierre

Manxgooner
“Ozil is %100 our best footballer but it seems everyone is more concered about pressing? Load of bollox”

I’ve been trying to tell this lot the same for the last 15 months.

I’ve been trying to educate them on the importance of composure, intelligence, technique, taking care of the ball, passing to a team mate , all things that I regard as important on a football pitch .

azed

“Is it not true that it’s been reported that since Emery has been at the club our most creative player is Ozil .”

This is not true Pierre.
Iwobi created the most big chances last season. Followed by Mkhi and Kolasinac.

Peckobill

Ishola Xhaka converts even the strongest will to the dark side lol On a serious note emery is playing clever with xhaka , he doesn’t pick him for tactical reasons just politics . Fans boo xhaka Emery selects him captain Emery picks him Xhaka gets strongly behind emery for picking him against fans wishes Xhaka being captain and a strong personality in the dressing room gets team behind emery In that team xhaka probably got the most to lose and would probably be most at risk if emery was replaced. It’s disingenuous of emery but he’s boxing himself into a… Read more »

Champagne charlie

“It’s agenda driven because Ozil was on the decline for Germany and Arsenal long before Emery showed up at Arsenal; He had his chances with two good forward last season, what did he do with that o-portumity?“ Right, again…what’s the agenda? Be specific. I’ve laid it as bare as I can and still you’re being abstract as you can be. Is anyone claiming Ozil a saviour of sorts? No. I’m claiming him being frozen out doesn’t help us achieve our target of top 4, I’m doing so because of the clear as day evidence that our team is dogshit and… Read more »

Valentin

Azed,

I think that the stats showed that Iwobi created the most chances in front of Kolasinac but that when averaged over minutes played Özil was the most creative.

Gentlebris

I’m aware of the fact that Ozil has to play and right now I really don’t fancy anything pro Emery, but the club had to send a message out after the way Sanchez and Ozil held the club by the collar in recent history. The club has to begin to show real ruthlessness. If Ozil bluntly refused to be transferred despite pleads from the club, the club can’t afford to just roll over and kiss Ozil’s boot. That would definitely send a clear signal of weakness. In fact in my opinion, the club actually instructed Emery to freeze out Ozil,… Read more »

Manxgooner

Pierre

I don’t get what the issue is with him on here. Technically our best player , hehas done absolutely nothingwarrant the criticism he receives other than not run after the ball like a fool. Leaving the midfield/defence exposed cause he’s just ran 20 yards after a ball he’s never going to win anyway…

Un na naai

Wenger’s last 47 games
Wins – 26Goals scored – 90Goals conceded – 59Clean sheets – 17

Emery’s first 47 games
Wins – 25Goals scored – 86Goals conceded – 63Clean sheets – 10

Valentin

Emery may feel the pressure, but it is pressure that he brought upon himself. Most of the pundits are now of the mind, Özil may be lazy and disruptive but at least he would serve something better than that. Some of Arsenal icons have now also started to publicly voice that opinion. Wrighty being the latest. I can’t make it this afternoon, but on Thursday I can testify that a large proportion of the stadium was booing at half time. There were clear shouts of Emery Out and “You don’t know what you are doing” and other unrepeatable on this… Read more »

Peckobill

Yes people can probably find stats to fit their argument either way but I only need my brain and my eyes to see each match day the wrong team selections are made and our crab football is diabolical to watch with me constantly shaking my head watching the horror unfold and constantly fail to play to our strengths .

I don’t hold out much hope of today changing

PieAFC

There is no nostalgia or sentiment with Emery. People want a vision and style for us moving forward. Bar the 22 game we’ve been on and off and so bland it’s ridiculous.

“Same old Arsenal” even now by pundits.

Games are available on the website for every member now. I think the city game is about to go to red member General sale.

Sign of the times will always be ticket sales and the atmosphere of the ground.

Flat as ever.

azed
azed

Pierre

Ozil played 26 games last season and delivered two assists.

Ozil is past it.

Chris

I think people are forgetting just how bad the atmosphere was around the club in Wenger’s last months before he announced he would be leaving. It grew from toxic in the stadium to apathy and for the good of the club, and indeed himself, he had to remove himself from the situation. Unfortunately this was somewhat too late, but that’s another discussion. Sure the stats point towards it being almost nothing in it between Emery and Wenger, if using the 47 game measurement. To continue in this hypothetical situation however isn’t as clear as using just game stats. The poor… Read more »

Manxgooner

Axed

Ozil spent to much time running after opposition players maybe that’s why! Why not use him properly instead, After all we are playing football..

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Azed

He created more chances than any arsenal player last season and was largely on the bench!!!

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/talksport.com/football/338043/arsenal-fc-news-amazing-mesut-ozil-assists-and-chances-created-stats-180131270735/amp/

You play ozil this season and Pepe, Aubameyang and Lacazette will score goals.

Gentlebris

Anyone else thinks Rashford and Lingard have stopped progressing since Jose was fired? If you have to play for Jose, you know you have to play; you know you are not being invited to a dance, you know you will not be cuddled, you know you just have to give your best but of course you know you are playing for a man who will not be wasting your time; you know you are actually playing for a guy who knows how to win trophies. Then overall, you have to keep progressing or you sink, Jose wouldn’t cuddle you while… Read more »

Valentin

PieAFC,

I think that we reached the acceptance stage of Emery grief. (Bamford is still at the denial stage). We know things are not going to improve. More and more people chose not to go and watch that depressing no-show of football. The atmosphere in the stadium is just flat.

Peckobill

Chris
Absolutely, Emery isn’t good enough and it makes no difference what wenger done or didn’t do before him . It’s not a wenger or emery situation it’s just is Emery good enough for the job ? The answer is no

Un na naai

As Marc said, Wenger doesn’t even need to come into the discussion regarding Emery’s future. He has had enough time now and enough movement in the squad to imprint his own ideals. Unless things pick up drastically the club will have another decision to make soon enough.

Chris

Doing your best Bamford impression i see. Hate to break it to you but I could t give two squirts of piss what topic or comparison you deem worthy of discussing. You’re a faceless contributor to a football blog. A dull one at that.

Dissenter

Pierre
When is the last time you saw a vacancy for a switch board operator?
The game has evolved past Ozil, it has little to do with Emery.
Same way the game evolved past the all powerful manager controlling mist aspects of the club like Wenger.
Give up your 24-7 rapid response Ozil defense, will ya?

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azedOctober 27, 2019 13:59:07
PierreOzil played 26 games last season and delivered two assists.Ozil is past it.

Azed
He created 36 chances in 26 matches. Mostly just getting 45 mins here and there.

Bob N16

If Ozil was not on such a large salary, I’m sure he would have been sold before now. He is becoming a better player every time our team plays badly. It doesn’t make him a better player but there becomes more of an argument for giving him game time. Right now, it’s asking a lot of any one player to sort out the lack of cohesion, poor personnel choices and game management. Comparing Wenger to Emery is slightly beside the point. The point is Wenger was not good enough and Emery is now not good enough. We should move on… Read more »

Samesong

Cut n pasted from BBC sport Do Arsenal miss him? The statistics would suggest so. Since Ozil made his debut for the Gunners, no player has created more chances than him. In fact, no-one comes even close. Premier League (since Ozil’s debut) Player Chances created Mesut Ozil 522 Aaron Ramsey 272 Santi Cazorla 190 Olivier Giroud 183 Granit Xhaka 121 He has also been the club’s top assist maker in three of their last six seasons, although admittedly did not feature in the top three of the list in the last campaign. Premier League (since Ozil’s debut) Season Player Assists… Read more »

Dissenter

Riddle of the day
We are not an attacking team.
We are not a defensive team.
We are not a ball possessive team.
We aren’t even a counter attacking team
What are we?

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Dissenter

Fine. The game has evolved past ozil. But emery still needs someonemakjng openings for our forwards as his arsenal iteration are severely lacking in that department

He gave away our 4 other creatives that he inherited Wilshere, Santi, Ramsey and Mkhitaryan and has us playing like stoke but without the die hard bull dog spirit.

We really are boring boring arsenal now

azed

Manxgooner
Ozil spent to much time running after opposition players maybe that’s why!

So Iwobi was just standing doing nothing right?

Samesong

Who got a good stream for later?

azed

He created more chances than any arsenal player last season and was largely on the bench!!!

UN

I just posted stats from the EPL sight to counter that bullshit.

Peckobill

Dissenter
A drab boring team with no direction

Marc

Un

If you are so keen on facts shy do you keep posting incorrect pieces of information?

“He gave away our 4 other creatives that he inherited ”

Emery did not give them away that was done by Sanllehi or other figures in management.

azed

“He created 36 chances in 26 matches. Mostly just getting 45 mins here and there.”

Lol 36 chances and just two assists playing with Aubameyang and Lacazette?

If Kolasinac had more that two assists from left back.

Those so called chances by Ozil are corner kicks and free kicks..

Ozil is a stats padded, the same reason why no serious club in football wants him.