Mourinho winnertivity comes with baggage

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In politics, if you are susceptible to conspiracy theories or have mused through history books, politicians have through history created situations that prompt the people to have their civil liberties taken away. Take Hitler burning down the Reichstag as an example.

In some ways, the football equivalent of that is happening at Arsenal at the moment.

The Unai Emery shit show is so bad, the people are begging the club to make things worse by bringing in a percieved solution that feels right in the moment (take my freedom to ensure safety), but when things calm down, we’ll realise we’re in a dictatorship we can’t escape (Jose Mourinho soft coup).

The Portuguese manager has, for the first time in his entire career, softened his stance towards the not-so-mighty Arsenal. This week, he was spotted in an exec box at Arsenal catching a bit of Europa League football. As ways of passing time go, this seems suspicious. It’s like finding out your partner has swapped Instagram for Tinder as a way to keep up with her friends. It doesn’t add up. Most Arsenal fans couldn’t muster the energy to go to the game.

A large section of Arsenal fans are clawing for a move that seems obvious. Jose makes sense. He’s won the league in living memory, he has an excellent understanding of the language and culture, he’s probably the purest pragmatist in the modern game, his track record with African players could be beautiful for Pepe. He will absolutely fix our defence with the tools we have on offer. He would more than likely make us a top 4 team this season.

… but there’s a catch. While you’re begging for Jose to bail you out of your footballing misery, consider the following.

Jose Mourinho is a chequebook manager in every sense of the word. He long gave up sharpening his coaching skills in favour of filling his team full of elite players to push his trophy ambitions. Peak Jose, when he was at Inter Milan, appears to be a distant memory. The job he did at United looks increasingly positive against PE coach, OGS, but be honest, for that outlay, the end product was drab.

To counter the above, I was informed that Jose doesn’t have a backroom team at the moment and he’s apparently in the market for one. If he has accepted that his approach has to develop, and he adds some world-class minds to his brain trust, then you might be talking an evolved beast. On paper though, if he’s the same old Jose, he’s only going to work if he has money to burn. Arsenal spent the money for next summer, when he finds out the coffers are empty, he’ll be a nightmare. Excuses galore, leaks to the press, and a grey cloud of misery will cloud the stadium.

Secondly, Jose brings a big backroom team. That means any visions Raul had of controlling the infrastructure would be gone. Hiring in a manager with a big backroom team is a soft coup. It insulates the manager and gives him control of aspects of the club he shouldn’t have control over. It can also cause cliques. If Jose brings the early days of his career back and we’re winning, it’s good times all round, if he doesn’t, firing him could cost us a fortune. His 2007 sacking cost Chelsea £23m. His United sacking last year cost £19m.

Then there’s the football. Wooooah boy, it is not pretty. However, it’s usually effective. But note this, if you go from Emeryball, which is fucking atrocious, then reengineer the squad to Mourinhoball, you basically say goodbye to the beautiful game. WengerDNA would be wiped out within two managers. That means if you ever want to welcome a Fonseca or a Rose, you’ll have to invest in different players, and likely lose a season of competitiveness as the squad gets used to having the ball at their feet.

There’s also the theatrics. Arsenal, is generally a liked club. Jose, generally, does not play by the rules of most managers. He creates a theatre that revolves around him. This is a guy who abused his own physios for doing their jobs, a man that gouged another man’s eye in the El Classico, there are countless shocking behavioural examples that should concern you as you clamour for winnertivity. Remember, in 2008 when Barca were chasing him, they had to end conversations because he wouldn’t abide by their conduct policy (namely, don’t be awful).

… putting all that to one side. The reality for Raul and Edu is they don’t have any wiggle room this season. It’s literally Champions League or bust. They need top 4 and outside Allegri, who hasn’t managed in the Premier League, there’s no other manager that is more suited to rebooting this season (outside maybe Benitez). He would be the ultimate short-term stopgap, but the fear would be the 4 year deal, because you know it’ll end like most Jose adventures… at 3 years, with plenty of tears.

Right, that’s me done. See you tomorrow. x

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Upstate Gooner

First

Upstate Gooner

Second

Kamp

Third?

Tenerife Gooner,

Blimey am I first.

Upstate Gooner

Third

Samar

Fourth?

Upstate Gooner

Darn you guys. Spoiled my clean sweep.

Samar

Buahaha, leave off it Upstate

Tenerife Gooner,

Made a mistake,ok not new.

Kamp

Sorry upstate, just happened to be wandering by.

Mourhino? No thanks, and the club shouldn’t be trolling Emery like that either.

We’ve been liked with Enrique today…anyone know what Conte is up to, if we’re considering ex Chelsea managers?

Kamp

Also, is Saka keeping Martinelli out of the first team? Tough call that one.
Martinelli seems more capable of imposing himself on games, earning the right to play…
But Saka is probably the purest ‘winger’ of the two and more likely to stretch the field…

shad

Can we have an Arteta/Ljunberg combo please?

Good ebening and good night.

Dissenter

CC
I said their starting 11 of last season was better than ours…I stand by that. The Leicester staring 11 of April 28th 2019 had better players that the Arsenal starting 11 of April 28th 2019.
I also predicted that they will be in the running for top-4 this season, that doesn’t sound so bizarre now, does it?
Cheers

Markinhi

Freddie until the end of the season, get the red hair dye out. Job done.

Top 4 no bother!!

Goodbye Emeryball!!

Ishola70

Mourinho was only at The Emirates to watch Vitoria Guimaraes.

bennydevito

Rafa Benitez, lol!

No thank you. I’d rather Mourinho and I hate Mourinho.

Fact.

Tee

All these. “Their players are better than ours” comments is another way to divert critism.Emery is the number one problem. No comment dribbling can change itLeciester finished below us last season and are presently above us with a new manger .This goes to show the power of a good coach on a team.Y’all can shout xhaka for as long as you like but it’s one man who picks him above torriera and whenever he wishes to play torriera, eh plays him out of position.It will be disingenuous to say Chelsea players are better than ours but they are doing great… Read more »

Graham62

Been in London Town all day so have been unable to pass comment on this mornings England heroics.

Certainly surpassed my expectations. A wonderful team performance. To nullify and outplay the AB’s takes some doing.

Now for Wales or SA. Got to fancy the springboks in that one but you never know. Should be another great game.

Chelski ramped up the pressure on us after dismantling Burnley away. With Leicester also in terrific form, 4th spot looks a long way off.

Got to be CP at home tomorrow but will Zaha be back to haunt us?

Watch this space.

Graham62

beat

Ishola70

Tee

Many fans always over-rate their own team or squad so folks can see where you come from.

Arsenal need to both change coach and make some additions to the first team in certain areas.

Peckobill

Jeez I hope this Mourinho buzz is pure nonsense, I mean I want emery gone but it’s not like the only choices in world football are emery or the past it one . There are other managers about for goodness sake

Marc

Pedro Nice piece and good to have someone slow down the “Mourinho he’s not that bad” band wagon. Just a couple of comments on the piece though: “That means any visions Raul had of controlling the infrastructure would be gone” If you think Sanllehi’s going to give up power you’ve badly misread the situation. “Remember, in 2008 when Barca were chasing him, they had to end conversations because he wouldn’t abide by their conduct policy (namely, don’t be awful).” Sanllehi was appointed DOF at Barca in July 2008 (promoted from Head of Marketing – you should like him more Pedro!)… Read more »

Peckobill

Graham We’ve seen what Leicester done on Friday and Chelsea dismantle Burnley but you just know with us tomorrow it’ll be our usual boring build up play taking a week to get from one end of the pitch to the other and getting a shot off then get countered time and again with the usual mayhem and panic in our box , no creativity feeding our strikers and the game ending a boring 1-0 either way or a no or low score draw . It’ll be the same dirge we’ve seen all season with our hopes hinging on a piece… Read more »

salparadisenyc

Graham

Don’t you worry about Zaha, El Unai will field a host of defensive mids to stifle him…. and us.

Graham62

There is no disputing that both Leicester and Chelski are playing far better football than us. In the time it takes us to make one pass, they make two or three.

We are slower in the transitions and far too predictable in too many facets of our game. If things stay this way, there is no chance of a top 4 place.

Emery must not go beyond Xmas if the current inconsistencies continue. We all see this.

The thing is,do our owners see it?

Rambo Ramsey

Fat Frank enjoying the honeymoon ala Solskjaer last year.

Pierre

Chelsea have technically better midfielders than Arsenal . Hence they keep the ball better.

What chelsea are showing is that you can compete in this league with small technical players.

They remind me of the Arsenal team that consisted of Fabregas, Hleb, Rosicky, Nasri, Adebayor .

Whether they will fail in a similar way to Arsenal in those days where we would be up there around Christmas and fade in the last few months , remains to be seen .

Pierre

If I remember rightly, kovacic and jorginho were heavily criticised by many on le Grove and the media last season . To me , it shows the importance of having a manager who can get the best out his players . Jorginho and kovacic are the type of players I love watching , if they were at Arsenal at this present time I doubt if they would make the starting line up . We go to Sheffield united and leave our more technical players out of the starting line up and if we had jorginho and kovacic there is no… Read more »

Marc

Rambo

I agree we need to see his performance over a longer period than 10 games.

It does make me laugh how quickly many on here are to judge a player / manager good or bad.

Rambo Ramsey

Arsenal have good technical midfielders too- Torreira, Ozil.

Its just that Unai Fvckery wants nothing to do with them.

Chrispy

If not seen a Maureen narrative anywhere except here. The man is nightmare and it cant happen. Rodgers was my choice and its depressing what’s going on at Leicester

Marc

Pierre

Fucking give Ozil a night off for once.

Dolomite

Well said Peckobill

I’ve said it before, Emeryball is a complete fabrication and non existent- square and backward passing, no attacking impetus due to the slow tedious build up play and definitely no creativity to create chances.

I dare say give any of the other top 6 managers the squad we have and we’d either be challenging whose on top or at least be 3rd.

Emery is a fraud and needs to jog on ASAP

Ishola70

Chelsea will still leak goals. This will still be their achilles heel.

But the situation is a little different to Solksjaer and his first period of matches.

Man United sat players back behind the ball and played on the counter in Ole’s first stint and he still likes to do that really.

Lampard in comparison is getting praise for the manner of the football actually being played which wasn’t really the case with Solksjaer.

Rambo Ramsey

Peckobill

You clearly are no student of the game. Do you not see the protagonist phase of our play?

Paulinho

“If I remember rightly, kovacic and jorginho were heavily criticised by many on le Grove and the media last season .”

Yes, and as I said the other day, they would still be getting criticised if Mount and Abraham weren’t in the team, because they would still have no edge up front, and eventually teams would press up the pitch and smother them. Nothing to do with Lampard.

They played beautiful football at the Emirates last season, but they had zero presence up front, and we over-powered/out-hustled them and they faded as the match went on.

Dolomite

Lampard might not be the most technically qualified or experienced manager, but right now he has Chelsea performing at their maximum using resources that are mostly youth team products.

He knows the club, it’s fans and what’s expected of the team and himself as manager

To argue otherwise is churlish and we should all be demanding the same standards from Emery

Marc

The worst of the criticism directed at Chelsea last season came from Chelsea fans who were never happy with Sarri.

Redtruth

Unaids Emery Managerial Honours:

Sevilla

UEFA Europa League: 2013–14, 2014–15, 2015–16

Paris Saint-Germain

Ligue 1: 2017–18
Coupe de France: 2016–17, 2017–18
Coupe de la Ligue: 2016–17, 2017–18
Trophée des Champions: 2016, 2017

Some fraud lol

Pierre

Kamp
“Also, is Saka keeping Martinelli out of the first team? Tough call that one.”

I agree but now Lacazette is back , neither will be starters in the league , though I do believe Martinelli would make a good impact sub .

It’s a pity that Nketiah is sitting on his arse doing nothing at leeds as I would love to see a front line of Martinelli, Nketiah and Saka with Smith Rowe behind in the Europa and league cup.

Dolomite

One league title.

Have Arsenal fans been neutered from recognising REAL success?

Champagne charlie

Dissenter With due respect that’s revisionist nonsense. You were adamant Leicester had a better XI, Wolves too, and perhaps Palace as I say. It was the go-to sentiment as we were getting tooled by any and all PL sides tail end of last season. You, and others, hopped on the player poverty train in a feverish attempt to absolve Emery’s end of season collapse. Funny, as this season you’re the face of the Emery out posters. Good for Leicester in playing well 9 games into the league season, all things being equal they’re not close to top 4 quality and… Read more »

Ishola70

Pierre
“If I remember rightly, kovacic and jorginho were heavily criticised by many on le Grove and the media last season .”

And even though Jorginho looks to have improved a bit off the ball this season a combination of him and Kovacic in front of the defence will see them leak goals and that’s even before getting to their actual CBs like Zouma.

Their AMs are going to help them.

They will be involved in more high scoring matches where goals are scored at both ends.

They do have Kante of course as well though to come in.

Peckobill

Rambo
The only protagonist aspect of emery is his ability to test my fucking patience every weekend with his daft selections and sleep inducing non style of football . I don’t think he can actually coach attacking free flowing football , I really don’t hence why he tends to always go for the work horse type players

Marc

Brendon Rogers is a manager who will over achieve at a club like Leicester but under achieve at a big club.

Therefore his correct level is a Leicester – Everton type club.

Peckobill

Red
It would take something special to actually not win something in France being in charge of PSG

Pierre

Paulinho
“Yes, and as I said the other day, they would still be getting criticised if Mount and Abraham weren’t in the team, because they would still have no edge up front, and eventually teams would press up the pitch and smother them. Nothing to do with Lampard.”

Are you forgetting that Last season Chelsea had Hazard and at the moment kante is out injured.

Its everything to do with Lampard and I mean everything.

Redtruth

Peckobill
“It would take something special to actually not win something in France being in charge of PSG”

You could say that about all the top teams.

Pierre

Marc
“Brendon Rogers is a manager who will over achieve at a club like Leicester but under achieve at a big club.”

Did he under achieve in his short time at Liverpool, one slip away from winning the league.

He lost his way in his final season but there were mitigating circumstances…losing his strike force.

I rate him .

Marc

Pierre

Lampard’s managerial record is 10 matches in the PL for Chelsea and before that he was at Derby for a season. He took over a team that finished 6th and managed to take them to 6th with the biggest wage bill in the league. He also lost the playoff final.

His record is so far away from being able to judge him long term it couldn’t be spotted by the James Webb space telescope.

Stop the fucking agenda and just say what you really mean.

Paulinho

Pierre – You’re not really getting the point (which is not a surprise). Hazard dropped deep, same as all their other players, and looked to dribble from deep. Very similar in style to Pulisic and Willian, so without primary off the ball runners they still had the problem of presence up front and runners in behind. In Mount and Abraham they now have players that can stretch the game, and punish teams that play too high, and that threat also gives Kovacic and Jorginho more time on the ball and they longer need to force the issue going forward, so… Read more »

Marc

Pierre

That’s fine you’re allowed to rate him but the fact is he should have won the league at Liverpool and fucked it up. His tactics for that Liverpool – Chelsea game were so wrong it’s a joke, he then drew the next match against Palace 3-3 after being 3 nil up.

Peckobill

Red
Yeah that’s why those teams always hover round the top that’s the whole point . Fat Sam or Neil warnock could probably win a league title with PSG . It’s really no guide .

Ishola70

Chelsea have AMs in the side that are direct and run into the opposition penalty area which helps them offensively.

Meanwhile Arsenal have only one proper AM in the whole squad and he is a periphery AM.

Pierre

Paulinho
I am getting the point , you think replacing hazard with mount has made chelsea a better team and it is the reason why jorginho and kovacic are more effective.

Abrahams is the other that you mention and maybe or maybe not he is better than Morata or Giroud.

bennydevito

Last season Leicester beat us because they did have a better 11 and player for player this season I would say their defence and midfield is still better than ours but overall I would say our squad is now better than theirs but only just. The big difference of course is Brenda is a much better coach than Emery, and if Emery stays they will finish above us and have a very good chance of getting top 4 above Spurs and maybe even Chelsea.

We’ll see I guess but hopefully Emery goes before January but I can’t see it.

Paulinho

Pierre – It’s made them better balanced and given them a fresh legs/minds that they desperately needed. As great as Hazard is, he was coasting, looked flat at times, and yet they still just gave him the ball over and over. Everyone at Chelsea is an equal now – and we see that with their football. The player in the best position gets the ball. Lampard has made some great decisions. Getting rid of Luiz being one of them. Removed all remnants of the staleness with that departure. Abraham is miles better than Giroud(for their team), because Giroud can’t run… Read more »

Redtruth

Peckobill

So according to you Guardiola is shit because even Fat Sam could win a title with Barcelona, Bayern or Man City.

Ishola70

bennydevito

“Last season Leicester beat us because they did have a better 11 and player for player this season I would say their defence and midfield is still better than ours but overall I would say our squad is now better than theirs but only just.”

As others obviously point out Leicester don’t have european football commitments so having a better overall squad may not matter at least for this season.

They can concentrate solely on EPL .

Champagne charlie

Pedro

Great manager? Think that’s some slutty Saturday lips Brenda is getting there.

If Pep, Klopp, Allegri are top bracket, where would you have Brenda, Poch, Emery, Nagelsmann, Enrique?

terraloon

Marc

You keep making the claim that last season Derby had the biggest wage bill in the Championship. As far as I can see this is simply not the case. Teams like Villa, Middlesbrough and Fulham were paying significantly more.

bennydevito

“As others obviously point out Leicester don’t have european football commitments so having a better overall squad may not matter at least for this season.

They can concentrate solely on EPL .”

>>>>>

Ishola,

Precisely why I think they’ll be a serious threat just like when they won the league back in 2015.

Nelson

The Chelsea team today looked compact, from defense, to midfield to attack. Every player seemed to know their task. If you compare quality of individual player, their CBs still look insecure and their strikers are not up to our level. Even without Kante, their midfield can move the ball forwards much better than us. Their attackers also back track. It makes a fluid attacking unit.

Redtruth

Last season:
Arsenal 3 Leicester
Leicester 3 Arsenal 0

2018-19 Table
5th Arsenal 70 Pts
9th Leicester 52 Pts

Leicester better than Arsenal lol lol

salparadisenyc

Benny

… “Cant see it.”

We loose tomorrow thats five back another stumble after not hard to see Raul getting near pulling the parachute at 8 back. Schedule wise we travel to Liverpool mid week, home to Wolves away to Vitoria and away to Leicester over next 2 weeks. Thats 5 games in 14 days including tomorrow on poor form.

Critical stretch for Unai and the one that will see him gone by Christmas if we don’t turn up.

Redtruth

Last season:
Arsenal 3 Leicester 1
Leicester 3 Arsenal 0

2018-19 Table
5th Arsenal 70 Pts
9th Leicester 52 Pts

Leicester better than Arsenal lol lol

Marc

Terraloon

It’s an article I saw somewhere – don’t remember where but I do know for a fact that Fulham didn’t have the highest wage bill in the Championship last season.

Marc

Pedro

Yeah he lost star players but the season they finished 2nd the title was in their own hands. Rogers fucked up against Chelsea at Anfield – at that point the title was out of their hands but with two matches left they could take it to the wire. They then drew at Palace after being 3 – 0 up.

Rogers fucked up when the pressure hit. You can’t accuse Arsenal managers of doing it but dismiss it with someone you are touting as a potential replacement.

Alexanderhenry

Pedro

I think we’re all aware of the pros and cons of Mourihno, but I’d be shocked if arsenal went for him.

The two consistent aspects of his career are:

1) All his success, post Porto, has been accompanied by vast expenditure.

2) His relationships with nearly all the clubs he’s worked at, have ended very badly and very expensively – for the clubs.

The powers that be at Arsenal are far too cautious and conservative-I’m being nice here- to risk Mourihno.

Having said that, if it were to happen, I’d be intrigued.

Marc

My guess – not necessarily my choice I really don’t know who is the right choice, I just know a few who will definitely be the wrong choice – is that if we fire Emery mid season Enrique will be Sanllehi’s first choice.

Champagne charlie

Mourinho isn’t landing at Arsenal, if he’s even being considered by the new wave in charge it’s peculiar to say the least.

Would say everything worth saying of Emery if we did jettison him for the devil.

Champagne charlie

“He understands the league, the culture and he’s doing great things with Leicester.He’d have been a better hire than Emery, that’s for sure.“ This is have to agree with begrudgingly, probably been unkind to him to claim him bang average. Emery has enlightened me on that particular level in fairness. I still maintain he’s bang average in the elite sphere however, but one thing he does have is a belief in identity and a systematic approach encompassing all aspects of the squad. Reinforces my own view that an ethos is utterly key to success end of day. Our fight with… Read more »

Marc

Pedro

The fuck up was Rogers went after Chelsea when he didn’t have to. Chelsea had to win the match to stay in the title race. Roger’s should have sat back and let Chelsea make the running hitting them on the break. Instead he went billy big bollocks, Gerard fell over, I laughed myself silly, Rogers was then unable to motivate the team to hang on to a 3 nil lead at Palace that would’ve taken the title down to the last match of the season.

Please tell me what is not factually correct with the above?

Marc

Pedro

Did you see my earlier comment ( made 10ish minutes after the post) about Mourinho and Sanllehi?

rollen

Big no to Moureen. Might as well bering Arsene back. Get great manager in or just leave average be.

HighburyLegend

Look at the table, look at Leicester’s form.
Look at the chavs, the Lampard SAUCE is starting to make effect.

Emery is under amazing pressure.
My guess is that he will go back to spain if he don’t change his selections for PL games.

He could explode like a soap bubble.

Marc

rollen

That’s the thing. We seem to be discussing what level of average is the right choice. All appointments come with a risk but the current conversations are just strange.

HighburyLegend

Why no to Maureen ??
Maybe with him, at least, our players could stop acting like pussies ??

And he knows how to handle a player like Ozil.
And no more armband for Xhaka, as well…

Redtruth

Ozil’s away record at big 6 grounds his whole time in England, over 5 years:

GOALS: ZERO
ASSISTS: ONE
MAN OF THE MATCH: ZERO
WINS: ZERO

Marc

Red

You missed off appearances which will probably be the most damning stat.

Tony K

There is no debate to be had Emery has to leave before he drags Arsenal under. He is murdering this club slowly death by a thousand cuts. It’s almost as if he secretly sent here by Tottenham and Chelsea to royally fuck us over.piece by piece. He simply cannot coach an attacking style of football because he overthinks everything to the point of OCD obsessiveness and the players are mentally confused as fuck. It shows with the play. There is no flow and no joy. He treats every team with too much respect and does not respect our own players… Read more »

Alexanderhenry

Pedro

I would be surprised, but yes, I’d be strangely on board with it- a bit like if Roy Keane had decided to play for us at some stage.

Weird.

terraloon

Marc

Last published accounts show wages for a small selection of Championship clubs I mentioned earlier

Villa £66.6 million
Middlesbrough £43.190 million
Fulham £54.3 million
Derby. £39.8 million ( that figure is annualised as Derby changed their account period)

The average wage budget in the Championship was around £34 million

Words on a Blog

Pedro,

I agree with every single word of your post.

Mourinho isa very, very big risk.

He is almost the embodiment of the phrase: “be careful what you wish for.”

Too big for Arsenal, and not in a good way.

HighburyLegend

Right, better keep Emery al the way…. lol

Peckobill

Red
Man City -no
Barca / Bayern – possibly ( don’t rate Zidane / pending who’s in charge of Dortmund )
PSG – yes

Redtruth

Raskolnikov
“Arsenal fans have made a rod for their own backs with their Wenger obsession and now they must live with the consequences. You cannot spend 14 years being happy with mediocrity and suddenly, pretend you have sky-high standards. Nope. You cannot spend years making excuses you cannot compete, then suddenly demand to play like Liverpool and Citeh. You cannot spend years claiming that all the on-pitch failure was down to the owners, and then pretend it is ALL down to the new manager once your sweetheart Wenger departs.”

Peckobill

Red
You think emery beats Klopp to the pl if he’s in charge of Man City ? I don’t

Marc

Terraloon

Fulham wasn’t in the Championship last season – hence my comment.

I read an article that stated Derby had the largest wage bill in the Championship. If that’s wrong I’ll hold my hands up no problem, of course I would have more faith in your numbers if you were picking up numbers for the right teams and right years.

terraloon

Marc

Hence why I said last published accounts which were for the year 2017/18 when Fulham were indeed in the Championship.

Peckobill

Red You to often make this offering of everyone who wants emery out because wenger was ousted , there are many of us who wanted wenger out many moon before he went ( like 8 years previously) but have also seen enough of emery to know he doesn’t cut the mustard . It’s not an either/or situation there are other managers about you know . One of the reasons in fact I would say is there’s actually very little difference between them so neither should be in charge . Both crap away from home , naive defensively, similar points /… Read more »

Marc

Terraloon

Yes but we’re talking about season 18/19 when Fulham weren’t in the Championship.

As I’ve said if my info is wrong then fine but Fulham is not the club to use as an example. In the season 18/19 Fulham FC were in the Premier League.

There really are some strange people on here who can’t seem to use basic truths to an argument and then are incapable of saying “oops got that wrong”.

Gunnernet

I can understand the frustration regarding Unai Emery at the moment and i agree even though i was a staunch supporter last year, however i truly cannot imagine there are gunners asking Jose coming to fix our predicament.. that would be DENTRIMENTAL!!! No fcking way!

Marc

Terraloon

You do realise that I’m not saying that Derby had the highest wage bill in the Championship’s history – just that season?

Redtruth

ARSENAL TRUTH “I’d say Arsenal are a big club in England (although obviously not at present), but in Europe they’re a nothing club. Despite all the years of Wenger ‘achieving’ top four status, his European achievements were so non-existent I think the club has LESS gravitas on the European stage than they did before he arrived. Wherever I went abroad when Arsenal were at their peak under Wenger, the locals always laughed off Arsenal as a small-time European club, and that was WITH Bergkamp, Pires, Henry and Vieira etc. Amongst the fanbase, there’s some dumbass alpha male shit going on… Read more »

Marc

Well for a club that has no international presence there’s an awful lot of non English on here.

Not that I have an issue with that – just an observation that it’s strange for a club no one overseas has ever heard of.

Peckobill

gunnernet
As much as things need changing I do agree I would actually rather stick with emery than Jose but surely that’s not the only option in world football for Christ’s sakes

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