Good ebening.
My granddad fought at the MSG in the forties in his first ever TV fight. He was knocked out. BY THE CANVASS. So last night, I revisited a piece of family history by attending the AJ fight. He was knocked out by a very fat man. What a joke. If the Champions League final is ever held there, I will NOT attend.
Did it ruin my day? Absolutely not. What a fucking MAGICAL Saturday people. A totally shit game. Perfectly executed by Klopp.
He has absolutely shamed our club. He has destroyed the notion that success cannot be achieved the right way. He has embarrassed the fans that stood behind stagnation. He has shown the way forward that so many people said wasn’t possible in a world of oligarchs.
It’s a 5 year run for Arsenal to make that happen. We need the right manager. The right vision. Loads of energy. A clear out of the jokers. A move towards absolute accountability.
It probably won’t come with the current leadership, it’ll almost certainly get worse before the owners realise what they’ve done, but rest assured, we’ll bounce back when we start doing things properly.
Anyway.
Let’s focus on what matters. Spurs lost. Summer can begin.
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DM
hello
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Tr4phy
trophy
Dang! so fucking close, but DM the omnipresent clinches it again,smh,
Looool
Dem spurs memes are a perfect medium rare.
👌👌👌
More important right now than “Have we signed anyone?” is “Have we sold anyone?”
Leeds
So so important who we move on this summer. We’ll certainly find out what Sanllehi is made of.
Superb hahahaha
I been to MSG only once and I enjoyed it, Big East basketball final Syracuse v Georgetown and was Alonzo Mourning final season of college. I think it was a Sunday and we were hungover but game was brilliant.
And I am delighted that Spuds lost yesterday, well deserved.
I think you giving Klopp too much credit Pedro. Klopp obviously top coach, I would be delighted if he come manage Arsenal, but a committee decides who to purchase each summer at Liverpool.
If I was owner of Arsenal I would implement committee system as well, it is wisdom of crowds working it’s magic, four or five smart people working together will produce better results than one smart person working by them self.
Yup, Spurs lost, best result of the year, the only bright spot we’ll remember.
Speaking of oligarchs and five-year plans, Arsenal is owned by the American version, a multi-billionaire. No sign of a plan though. If he has one, it’s probably buried somewhere deep in Delaware.
Evening Grovers,
Nice short swift post Pedro, and yes a mighty relief for sure.
Best Spurs meme was clearly this one:
https://twitter.com/BennydevitoBen/status/1134980261630894085?s=09
But they were all fantastic!
Those Spurs memes are on point.
Nice one Benny
The most recognizable comment by Liverpool owner: “what are they smoking over at the Emirates?”
The most recognizable comment by Arsenal owner: “We don’t buy them [clubs] to win trophies “
Your inspirational pieces , as good as they are, are in vain Pedro.
Great memes
Also, top managers don’t go to clubs mainly for their location, glitzy shopping and the nightlife.
Klopp didn’t come from a coastal elite city you big snob( 😉) but Dortmund, so stop peddling London as the main draw.
If we don’t watch out
Stan will merge us like all his other properties…
Maybe with Barnet
Arsenal Barnet ?
Maybe with millwall
Arsenal wall
Maybe with QPR
Arsenal queens.
Did someone say on here that the intentional and unintentional handball is going to be definitely ditched next season. These rules that are made for the benefit of the attacking team go a bit too far. We are already seeing defenders standing with their hands behind their backs like waxwork dummies when defending because they are so petrified of the ball hitting their arm/hand. And as someone else said on here you will get players purposely looking to gain advantage by smashing the ball at the opposition in the penalty area looking for that arm/hand. These sort of rules just… Read more »
I think it was Cesc Appeal that mentioned a link with the CB at Stuttgart Kabak.
Avoid like the plague.
Hot-headed Turk. Lacks concentration. Has a high foul count.
Great that the spuddies lost. Poor game, as most hyped up finals are. Although the media love in with klopp and the bindippers has already started. One headline was Liverpool dynasty begins now. Lol not if city have anything to say about it, and they won’t be so lucky to have team’s cave in for them next season. Pedro don’t go over the top man. He has absolutely shamed our club. He has destroyed the notion that success cannot be achieved the right way. He has embarrassed the fans that stood behind stagnation. He has shown the way forward that… Read more »
Great memes….
Boubacar Kamara is 19 very highly rated and has a year left on his contract. Fuck the lad from Stuttgart
Good memes. I was planning for the funeral of arsenal should spurs have won. But thank heavens our demise isn’t premature.
The summer must begin in earnest if we’re really determined to make up for the lost years.
Sometimes, it’s quite a pain to be a Gunner
Those Spurs memes are embarrassing. Shows what a small club Arsenal have become.
A proper club wouldn’t worry so much about what a club like Spurs are doing/not doing. Pathetic to say the least.
Spurs tanking in the final was such a relief and the summer does indeed start now that heavy, ominous cloud has moved on. For me, emery’s arsenal career starts now. My only disappointment with him last season was due to his own success. I never expected him to be so close to the top 4, and in the final of a Euro cup with this team of elite bottlers. I said right from the start that this season was all suck it and see. Stabilise the ship. Suss out the team. Emery has a style and an ethic, I just… Read more »
@up for grabs
It’s not just Klopp that has pulled this off for Liverpool. They have barely put a foot wrong in the market, they have brought some cracking players and sold some average players high. He is part of a world
Class set up, that’s fully self sustaining and is exactly what we should be looking to do.
Lighten up Thomas, can you imagine if the boot was on the other foot?
David Smith
Thomas is a spurs troll
Danny, right there with you. It what we should be doing. We just don’t have much of it in place. What gets me is that Emery gets stick for not turning us into contenders overnight. Klopp & pocchetino gets five years. Klopp gets a war chest that only city can match, Emery gets the change from the back of the sofa. Klopp transferred In or introduced for there debut nine out of the first eleven yesterday. Emery has four of his own players in the first eleven. And one of them, guendouzi, was bought for the future. but our midfielders… Read more »
Up for grabs
Definitely he needs a chance. I do remember people slating Klopp in his first seasons and pep even when he didn’t win the league first season.
How can Emery change this team with 2 windows! Most importantly, we haven’t gone backwards, like united post fergie.
I’d go as far as to say We have taken some baby steps forward. Very small but noticeable.
Anyone got some tissues for Thomas so he can dry his tears?
I watched gary Neville and caragher fighting about emery awhile back on Monday night football.
And what Neville says is true.
It’s a three.year job to get us competing again.
First year assess the squad who can fit in with his way of playing. And clear out the deadwood.
Second year, qualify for champions league and maybe get a cup.
Third year competing for the title.
Let’s see how things go with more of emerys players, playing the way he wants them to play, and to see if he can get us to year three?
Up4
Third year competing for the title?
I’ll have what you’re having mate, gimme a couple in fact.
Danny the improvements are there.
It’s not massive and there’s a lot more needed.
The fact we got more points against the other top six sides is an improvement.
The increase in points and narrowly missing out on third by two points is an improvement.
It’s baby steps while were in transition, but as you say a least it’s not like utd.
“A proper club wouldn’t worry so much about what a club like Spurs are doing/not doing”
Then why have the Spud’s declared the capacity at their new stadium to be higher than the Emirates when this capacity can only be met for American football?
Cc,
That’s Gary Neville opinion.
But he has a point if we’re not competing by year three.
Then Emery has failed and should go.
I’m not saying year three we should be winning it, but at least we should be in the race like spurs were for awhile earlier in the season until there collapse!
(Not that they had much chance of winning it)
I think year 3 competing for title is a bit much, unless we get a new owner.
I think competing for title is a 5 year plan, with some true elite transfer activity.
Awww didums, poor little Thomas the not so secret Spurs fan.
Off you fuck.
I do expect these exact conversations were happening on Liverpool blogs after Klopps first year though. Ha
They’re our local rivals, of course we enjoy the piss-taking. If you don’t see the funny side of a Spurs defeat in a CL final ( no less) you’re either not an Arsenal fan or your life is too fu*king serious!
Klopp took 4 years to compete for the title and that was only after a summer of spending over 160 million on 3 players and 6 months after spending 75 million on a CB. No way we’re challenging inside three seasons
Up4 I like Gary Neville, but he’s got a very soft stance on managers 99% of the time most likely down to his Valencia stint. I totally advocate setting the vision and goal of Title challenge in X amount etc etc, but our current setup, and with Emery at head coach aren’t achieving that aim for me. There should be improvement with longer exposure when it comes to management, and we simply haven’t seen that. Our worst period of the season was the last 6 weeks, where we should be seeing more of the fruits of Emery’s work than the… Read more »
Getting linked to a lot of players playing over in South America.
Not sure if this is just lazy journalism off the back of Edu and Martinelli or if it is something more.
Palacios still strongly linked. Madrid were sniffing around him so might turn out to be a good signing away from the crazy European market.
CA he’s basically a 20 year old Banega. He looks fantastic
CC
Should we see improvement with more exposure with the same squad in season 1? Or should we see players start to fold and break and plain give up, then HOPE to see them replaced and a major improvement the second season
Danny
Why would the players give up under under a new manager in his first season, with 6 games to go to meet an objective?
That would say a lot about Emery, as much as the players, wouldn’t it?
Danny S I correct you. Thomas is a Chav. Up 4 grabs now What Pedders is trying to say is that pool of piss have made their own money allowing them to make these expensive purchases. They are a well drilled outfit geared towards winning and the people within are working towards that same aim. Selling players high, identifying as best they can the type of player Klopp needs and then reinvesting all their earned money to buy that player. They know what they are doing and are executing it well. As for us, well, we’ll have to wait until… Read more »
CC Did they give up or burn out. Maybe they just don’t have the mentality to take the pressure. Emery could be a football genius, but if they don’t have the mentality to take it home they don’t have it. We have 2 main players who have major mistakes in them each game. We have a 350k per week player who gives zero fucks about the team. We have a 19yo prodigy who has been way over played. We have a potentially good CM playing RB. We have no true wingers. We have a wing back at left back who… Read more »
Up 4 grabs now
I shoukd add that I am referring to your post written on June 2, 2019 20:09:11
Danny
Mate we got 4 points from 18 the tail end of the season, I think you’re verging on taking the mick by suggesting that’s down to burnout.
What indicates to you that Emery is cut out to deliver a title challenge in X amount of time?
Marko It would be great if he could put a serious dent in our CM and CAM issues, seems to be a tenacious player by all accounts and one of those all round midfield players which is quite something at 20 years old. The transition always worries me though. From the South American leagues to the EPL. Though, he does seem a very physical player with a great engine which will count for a lot here. That’s the kind of scouting we’re going to need, hope that for a combined £25 Million the likes of Palacios and Martinelli seriously help… Read more »
CC
I didn’t just say burn out. Most of our current players cannot handle pressure.
The only way we can see if emery is any way good enough is to give him a chance.
2 transfer windows isn’t a chance.
This is the year. I just pray that if by Xmas we are still looking the same, the board have the balls to sack him.
Gary Neville is a fucking leech
Gets paid £millions for his”expert” analysis but failed miserably with England and Valencia
He is a fraudulent Manc cunt of the highest order
Danny
Ok, well what are you suggesting was to blame for our capitulation the last 6 weeks – or most to blame is maybe a better question?
CC Many factors were to blame. Player mentality for starts. We lack any true leaders on and off pitch. Emery is at fault also as he gambled everything in the Euro cup. I think he massively over estimated or over trusted his players. Injuries. Ramsey was a big miss, as has been bellerin. Emery has done the best he can this season with the current crop. I think Ozil is a cancer that is rotting the club from the inside. Next season, we will finish top 4 with emery, that I feel confident of….. if and only if, we have… Read more »
Just watch a replay of the CL final and EL final. I want the Pools defensive coordinator. They played a 4 3 defense with the 3 midfielders forming a defensive line protecting the back four. SPUDs couldn’t break through and generate clear cut chances. Arsenal played 3 CBs and two midfielders. The position of the two midfielders were all over the place. In the 2nd half, Torr was finished and was subbed out. There were so many holes in the defense. Hazard could take the ball and ran through the whole defense. We should replace this defensive coordinator.
That is food for thought. The Pools didn’t play any box to box midfielder. But they have two super wingers. Maybe our priority should not be replacing Ramsey but sign a CB, a DM and a winger.
Would people accept a relatively low spend in the more attacking departments, for example Palacios, Martinelli and Claude Maurice if it meant significant investment in defence?
Liverpool have some good youngster also out on loan across different countries. I for one like the look of Harry Wilson that’s on loan at Derby.
Cesc,
Hmmm, tough to accept, especially as I think that one of Laca or Auba is likely to go…..chances created might go up, but we’d then have only one recognised prolific goal scorer
A Spanish colleague says it was reprehensible for Reyes to be given a minutes applause after he was found speeding 120mph.
Nelson “Just watch a replay of the CL final and EL final. I want the Pools defensive coordinator. They played a 4 3 defense with the 3 midfielders forming a defensive line protecting the back four. SPUDs couldn’t break through and generate clear cut chances. Arsenal played 3 CBs and two midfielders. The position of the two midfielders were all over the place. In the 2nd half, Torr was finished and was subbed out. There were so many holes in the defense. Hazard could take the ball and ran through the whole defense. We should replace this defensive coordinator.” It’s… Read more »
For me UE needs to improve to 2 metrics next season. 1. A 20% reductions in goals conceded so 40 or below 2. A 10% increase in points accumulated. I believe that even with our limited budget these 2 should be within reach and would show tangible progress. On to the TW, player sales are going to be very important, though I don’t see Ozil moving. Honestly I would pay 250k of his wages and give him away for free and bring in a free 30 year old at 80k a week. Saving 20k and actually having a body available… Read more »
The DLP is a hangover from Wenger in the midfield.
Again the question should be asked has the DLP been a success for this side as a whole since it was implemented three seasons ago?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/9205056/jose-antonio-reyes-tributes-santiago-canizares-tweet/amp/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunmaintwitter&utm_source=Twitter&__twitter_impression=true
Oh dear. This puts things in a different light. Driving at 120mph, 50mph over the speed limit killing his 23 yr old cousin and leav another cousin in a critical condition with 60% burns.
Santiago Canizares said he had slammed Reyes prev for driving at high speeds.
Fuck.
Left behind a 2yr old and 5yr old daughters as well as an 11 year old son
Not sure if the other cousins have kids or not.
Awful.
@Ishola, That has nothing to do with Wenger, those are tactical choices made by Emery. Having 2 central midfielders against 3 gives to the opposition control of the midfield. From then the defense will always be on the back foot. Three at the back requires wingback that are superior athletes and good crossers. none of our players have those characteristics. The result is they end up pushed back to a Back 5 or get caught high up the field. The final shows exactly ho badly that system can go against a well drilled 4-3-3. The personnel argument does not wash,… Read more »
Valentin
Tell us when Arsenal last had a midfield that was solid defensively and took control of matches consistently regardless of whether there are two or three in that area.
Valentin
You cannot play AMN and Kolasinac in a back 4.
You cannot play Monreal against a pacy winger (Remember how Sarr destroyed Monreal?)
So how is playing a 4-2-3-1 the best formation when we don’t have fullbacks?
And please do not say Osei-tutu.
Without massive clean out in the summer everything else is pointless. Build solid defense and good fighting spirit. Change of culture needed to.
test
“It’s the culture of the club that is the problem rather than any defensive coordinator and of course it stems from Arsene Wenger .” Ask any cultural change guy and they will tell you that the personality and the culture of a company comes from the top. And that is the onwer. He is comfortable with mediocrity and that understanding was something lapped up by Wenger and Emery. We have a 100% turnover in supervisors and management. We have a 30% turnover in operators. Some of the operators openly declare their allegiance to the new leaders at the start of… Read more »
If I may comment : there are a few things for which i hold emery responsible: 1. You cant bottle a good run in for an easy top four finish even a third place finish like emery did / cant bottle a european cup final like we did against chelsea.. “emery couldnt get the players motivated for it” 2. tactically he isnt as good as was being touted , examples, matches against liverpool away, chelsea final , wolves (twice) .. and a numerous other times 3. The team is playing a confused brand of football,, he is dictating the players… Read more »
Plus , ,it is so sad to hear about Reyes , he was one of our own and was an awesome player , really liked him ,, he had his own identity in a team full of giants ,,
Rip Jose Antonio Reyes
Sir chips’ comment about Wenger having a plan or not probably is still the case within the ownership. Useless kents.
Spuds can eat a dick. So stoked they lost. Gave my heart a break after such an appalling 2nd half of football from us; which shouldn’t actually be brought up, my apologies.
DannyS, I agree with you here. And the rest of that post for that matter. “For me, emery’s arsenal career starts now. My only disappointment with him last season was due to his own success. I never expected him to be so close to the top 4, and in the final of a Euro cup with this team of elite bottlers. I said right from the start that this season was all suck it and see. Stabilise the ship. Suss out the team.” am seriously disappointed with how the season turned out, but at the same time I was very… Read more »
People are advocating major surgery this summer and then talking of giving Emery until December to prove his mettle. That is almost like being on a six month notice period and is unlikely to work. It is like starting altogether again. If we continue with Emery then we have to give him another complete season unless things are really bad and we are out of top 4 contention by December. However, I have said this many times but my biggest fear is that the players are not receptive to his tactics. They, i guess are overwhelmed with what all is… Read more »
Mustafi and Elneny, approximately the only 2 who will be sold for sure.
Make no mistake guys, we won’t be able to show the door to ALL of them, and I have a very bad feeling about Ozil and Xhaka…
We are nicking £4m off pool over a clause in the ox’s contract
That will pay most of the fee for martinelli quite nicely
If we get Rabiot in then we’ve done some good business straight away for £2m plus wages on that £40m budget
Sid
I’d rather give him the bullet right now and give someone else the reins and the funds but we are where we are. It’s senseless not signing anyone promising just because half the fan base isn’t convinced emery is going to do anything other than tank hard.
Sid also, if you’re right on emery and he is the man to take us up the table then surely it’s better to let him bring in elements to the side that he wants? From the perspective of someone like me just give him his own rope and he’ll either climb it or hang himeslf with it and we can move on to someone who can really make us Arsenal again. Let’s face it. We aren’t right now are we?
Don the Arsene FC you want back ran it’s course.
All the advantages that Wenger had over others in the past dwindled away and only the weaknesses remained evident.
You want Arsene FC back?
The Arsene FC that hadn’t played consistently good eye-catching football for at least the last five years of Wenger’s reign.
The Arsene FC who didn’t win an EPL title going on 15 years.
The Arsene FC who 99% of the time failed in Europe.
Yeah gives us our Arsene FC back.
Ishola
Don’t be a mug. I want an arsenal that wins playing quality football. I couldn’t give two shits who’s coaching us to success as long as that’s what we are-successful
You think what we are watching right now is arsenal?
Keep plugging away though pussy boy. You’ll have to try harder than that
Don You said you want your Arsenal back which can only mean you want Arsene FC back. No wonder this club will keep failing. Fans who are wedded to what they see as “quality” football all stemming from Arsene Wenger. Liverpool FC and their fans have never had hang-ups about “quality football” like Wenger fans although some of their teams in the past gave just that. That club and their fans value heart, bravery, commitment and work-rate in the shirt over any “quality football” and they are the the team with the superior history in the past and currently. Just… Read more »
Sissoko in the penalty box
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Arsene Wenger criticized the team’s collapse in the 2nd half on the social media as if he has never seen it before.
The specialist in losing european finals has spoken lol
lol Globalgunner, no bad.
https://www.givemesport.com/1480273-arsenal-fan-creates-thread-arguing-mesut-ozil-had-a-near-perfect-game-in-europa-league-final?autoplay=on
Well, now we know what Pierre has been doing since yesterdays trolling attempts.
It’s quite incredible just how far AFC have fallen over the years, basically since our move away from Highbury. What is even more incredible is the naivety of certain fans as to why this has happened. Do I genuinely feel that Emery is the right person for the job? No, I don’t. However, based on the infrastructure and mindsets he inherited, I still feel he should be given one more season to try and rectify matters. If though we continue on a downward spiral and Xmas hits, drastic actions will need to be taken. Wenger( sorry to bring him up)… Read more »
Un na I was firmly in the Emery camp but our results and style of football from new year onward and the collapse in last 2 months particularly have raised some serious questions regarding continuing the Emery project. Questions which any football club for that matter would be criminal to overlook. Emery from the beginning itself was really up against it. An owner who is not serious about the club, the Management which many are skeptical about, the consistently declining quality of the squad, poor players earning massive money, lack of direction etc. The list can go on and on.… Read more »
” A Spanish colleague says it was reprehensible for Reyes to be given a minutes applause after he was found speeding 120mph.”
What, you think they were applauding him doing 120mph
I know that it is frown upon to talk bad of the dead, but it seems that there is a lot of revisionism regarding Reyes.
To me Reyes was technically brilliant, but he never had the intelligence nor the mentality to make the most of his natural talent.
Got bullied to easily. Had a tendency to run very fast into blind alley. He was one of the most infuriating player I have seen live. Brilliant one week, absolute transparent the next.
Why hiring Arteta could be a failure.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jun/03/louis-van-gaal-manchester-united–interview-buy-players-rooney-tactics-solskjaer
Excerpts.
Were you surprised that Solskjær was given the job permanently?
I was very surprised he got it in spite of the winning run at the start.
Why?
Because Manchester United is one of the biggest clubs in the world that needs a manager with experience and not a manager who has trained at one or two teams and on a lower level.
Managing a top level team demands top level experience.
He was actually doing 147mph, 70mph over the speed limit, one of his younger cousins was killed another is in hospital with severe injuries, treating him like a hero because he played football just feels wrong.
He may have been a good player, but he was also an irresponsible idiot who killed his 23 years old cousin and left another person badly burned fighting for their life while driving illegally at 120mph overspending by more than 50mph.
If instead of killing himself, he had killed a couple of innocent bystanders, maybe he would not be viewed in the same light. The footballer Lee Hughes had accident when driving like a madman and killed a family. He was sent to jail. Had Reyes survived, it is likely that Reyes would have also ended up in jail.
Interesting that United are rumoured to be offering Rabiot £170 000 a week.
He may be demanding £280 000 a week but it seems as if he’s going to have to settle for much less because those demands have chased off a lot of big clubs.
A £5-10 Million signing on fee and £170 000 – £200 000 a week and I would at least try for him.
Freddie LjungbergJune 3, 2019 10:26:23
https://www.givemesport.com/1480273-arsenal-fan-creates-thread-arguing-mesut-ozil-had-a-near-perfect-game-in-europa-league-final?autoplay=on
Well, now we know what Pierre has been doing since yesterdays trolling attempts
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Wow, the delusion!!
Absolutely incredible.