Technical Director role offered to Edu, here’s what we know

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Well good morning, I’m suffering from WAKE UP EARLY issues at the minute, so I thought I’d bang out ANOTHER post for you because I am on a streak.

Arsenal has offered the role of technical director to Invincible, Eduardo César Daude Gaspar. I’d heard rumblings we were doing a deal, but my info was that the offer hadn’t been accepted yet, though the club were confident he’d do so.

So what to make of this hire… at the second attempt?

In short, it’s a real, ‘who the fuck knows’ moment.

His experience sits outside of the Premier League and outside of Europe. He’s currently the technical director of Brazil, and I’m not really sure what that entails. Their national team hasn’t exactly been a box of dreams over the past 5 years, and even if it had been, how do you affect a nation of players?

I’ll bang through some topline thoughts.

What experience does he have?

He’s 40 years old. He played up until he was 32 years old. He was then given a Director of Football role at Corinthians. He had a good run there, the club won the South American equivalent of the Champions League.

He had a stint as the Iranian assistant coach, who hasn’t, right?

He then took the role at Brazil in 2016. This is where some of his comments started to get me a little excited. As I pointed out in the post earlier this morning, I want someone to come to Arsenal that looks at the club from a holistic perspective, capturing the true essence of our being. First and foremost, they need to understand the culture, the heritage and the prestige. If you don’t understand the basics, you can never be a good long term fit.

This is what Edu had to say about taking on the role at Brazil.

‘Tite and I worried about the mentality,’

‘People were thinking about Brazil in a way we didn’t like. When people look at Brazil, they should respect us for our present and for our history. We were missing that. The team were not close enough to the people.

‘With all due respect, I don’t want to be the way English guys are. We are Brazilians. So let’s be Brazilians: friendly, laughing, talking. Some people cannot afford tickets for a game. So sometimes we open up training and let 50,000 people in for free.

‘Before, Brazilian players would not go into a hotel through the main doors. Why? Why do you want to go through the back door? People just want to see us. Now we go through the main doors.

‘A kid breaks through and wants to see his hero. Let him do that. As a player, I tried to be nice to people. Say “hello”, it’s not hard. We are bringing this back.’

Yes, yes and yes.

He is entitled. Brazil is an institution of football, that is how they should be respected and thought of. He’s thinking about the people of Brazil, their socio-economic situation and general perception. He is talking about exciting people, because at the core, that is what football is all about, right? He believes they should be at the top. All these folk that call Arsenal fans spoilt because ‘no one deserves to win trophies’ are not the types that drive things forward. Edu sounds like he understands that.

I hear that he’s an incredibly nice guy, I know that sometimes empathy can be seen as weak in football, but again, I think it’s an important trait. Especially if you’re looking at reengineering the focus around young players. Carlo, one of the great, was always accused of being too nice to his players. This is what Edu had to say on his experience of prime Wenger.

‘I was feeling sad. I lost my sister a week before I arrived. I was not in a good way. But I found a club and manager that worried about me as a person, rather than as a footballer.

‘Every day Arsene Wenger pulled me into his office. He wanted to check I was OK and check how my family were. He cared so much and it made me feel so good. He let my dad watch training. I come to London once a year and always go to see him.’

You might call the above snowflake millenial nonsense, but the reality is, the generation of kids coming through have different expectations. They demand more from the workplace and they expect to be treated well. You have to balance those needs, but someone with a human touch is important.

I also like the fact he’s fully aware of the talent in England and that he has ideas about unlocking it. This was 2017.

‘This is a big generation,’

‘But the Premier League is so rich. You have a fantastic young midfielder in Phil Foden at Manchester City but there are two or three fantastic ones in his position.”

‘So, how can you play? How can you develop these guys? You have good players but to get better, they need to play in the first team. Clubs don’t look to the Under 17 guy because they go to the market.’

Edu will have been in prime position to watch the best young kids from around the world. He’ll have met with the best coaches, seen setups from the major clubs, and had hands on experience with the biggest names to grace the yellow and green of Brazil.

Apparently, when he was at Corinthians, he did visiting tours of all the major European clubs to watch and hear how they did things. This is a guy that is hungry to lean into the experience of others, someone that is open enough to know he doesn’t have all the answers, with an Invincible attitude that means he’s a winner.

Are their worries about his hiring? For sure. He played under Unai Emery for a couple of seasons. That was over ten years ago, but he was operating under his management at Valencia. Will that cloud his judgement when he has to pull the trigger on his contract next year? Possibly. But I’d hope that he’s been around enough big decisions to not be influenced by matters like that.

There’s also the experience question. Going for explayers feels good, but is it always right? He’s being asked the run the operational side of the football at Arsenal. That requires a huge amount of skill and vision for someone that is basically only 8 years into working life. Risks are associated with that.

The big worry is that all his experience is based out of Brazil. However, that can also come as a blessing. Firstly, he knows England and Spain intimately because he spent a lot of time there. Also, something I’ve cried out for over the years is finding someone who can root out gems in markets that aren’t already saturated. We have an advantage here. It’ll be very interesting to see what sort of recruitment head he brings  into the club.

Another concern is that the Copa America is in his home country. We literally don’t have a Technical Director until July 7th. That’s a long time to leave Unai and Raul at the wheel. A lot of bad pound notes can be spent in that time.

Everything is a risk, but ultimately, give me Edu over a hack like Monchi. He was yesterday’s man, Edu could be the future. He’s young, he seems of great temprement and hopefully he’s the sort of leader that wants to surround himself with the best people.

Also… how much sauce does the guy have?

Additionally, there can be no doubt whatsover as to the style of football he is going to enforce. He is Brazilian and he played under PEAK Wenger. Arsenal are going to have a clear vision when it comes to style and footballing philosophy.

I was a bit worried when I first heard this rumbling, but in the space of writing an article, I am now absolutely convinced this could be a very, very good move for Arsenal.

Fingers crossed he signs on and we can move on with the second reboot of Arsenal.

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Pedro

Is Ernesto Valverde a terrible manager? He’s blown 3 goal leads to Roma and Liverpool with a front line that contains Messi.

Joe

Haha Pedro Trying to use Shaquri to bash emery because he played with stoke? He was well above that level. He’s a great player for club and country and would walk into our starting 11 Wenger left emery with garbage. Xhaka will not get better no matter who manages him. Same with mustafi. Iwobi. Mkhit is garbage In the PL. Klopp isn’t fixing any of these players Your emery out agenda is so transparent and pathetic How many players has Klopp changed since he took over 4 years ago? Please answer that Pedro? How much has he spent in the… Read more »

alexanderhenry

Marko

Agreed.

The prime mover for any successful club is its ownership.
Liverpool’s owners- the Fenway group- have shown real ambition and commitment, unlike ours.

We’ve seen the effect they’ve had at Liverpool but also look at their record at the Boston red sox.
They bought the club in 2002 and since then they’ve won four world series and are nearly always in the play offs.

Compare that to KSE.

TR7

Arnold, Robertson, Wijnaldum, Milner, Gomez, Firmino did not cost much, did they ? Henderson was butt of all jokes before Klopp took over and now he is a regular fixture in their Pool line up. So let’s not pretend it’s just the money spent that has helped Pool reach where they have. The expensive signings Allison, VVD, Keita and Fabinho were not even there when Klopp led Pool to the CL final last year.

Un na naai

Marko

Yes it will but not with emery
Not a fucking hope of it
He can’t beat Brighton with two of the best strikers in the Europe.

Dissenter

gambon
Your excitement is making you unhinged with delirium.
“That would be Koscielny who Emery chose not to replaceMustafi that Emery chose not to replaceKolasinac that Emery chose not to replaceXhaka that Emery chose not to replaceMykhitaryan that Emery chose not to replaceIwobi that Emery chose not to replaceElneny that Emery chose not to replace”

They gave Emery 250 million [ a la Guardiola] and said change these players..and he turned the offer down ?
What are you talking about?

Redtruth

gambon
“What you saw tonight, Klopp started implementing in his first year.”

No, what you saw tonight was a Messi led Barcelona collapsing.

Radio Raheem

Un na

There’s something in history I feel. They win it this year it’ll be their 6th if I’m not mistaken, Ajax’ 4th, 5th or 6th (not bothered to Google).

Maybe I’m wrong.

Un na naai

Tr7

Exactly. You’ve put it as well and as plainly as possible and it’s still not sunk in. They’re doubling down to hide their blushes.

gambon

Marko

Sorry..no

Klopp improved Liverpool dramatically with almost a £0 net spend.

The only reason he was able to spend big bucks was he did well spending no money.

Emery was given £65m…….did nothing with it.

£65m is much more than Klopp was given in his first 2 years.

Radio Raheem

Not sure what people are going about Shaqiri. He played like a Stoke player for 85 minutes of that match.

Joe

Marko

Klopp was also left the remnants of a team that challenged for the title

Emery is left with wengers losers.

Klopps had 4 years and a total over haul of the squad. And close to 500m spent

Apples and fucking oranges

WengerEagle

Marko how can you sit there and say that it’s acceptable that we’re put away 9-3 in a week by 3 mid to lower table sides and draw a crucial home game to Brighton when they were already on the beach being mathematically safe and bemoan that it’s down to Emery not having the players?

While Liverpool without Salah and Firmino put away full strength Barca 4-0 with Origi, Shaqiri, Henderson, Wijnaldum, etc?

Answer that without flittering off shite like I expect us to challenge for the league, Liverpool are a better team or whatever other excuse.

Un na naai

Radio

Yeah or a first for you know who.
Two teams tomo who work on a shoestring. Just good old fanciful coaching, great scouting and smart tactics.

Redtruth

This will be Klopp’s 7th straight defeat in a Final lol

Marko

That would be Koscielny who Emery chose not to replaceMustafi that Emery chose not to replaceKolasinac that Emery chose not to replaceXhaka that Emery chose not to replaceMykhitaryan that Emery chose not to replaceIwobi that Emery chose not to replaceElneny that Emery chose not to replace Gambon you’ve yet to realize or simply choose to ignore that the current coach of Arsenal fc isn’t responsible for who gets signed and who gets sold. That’s kinda been my point the whole time it’s irrelevant who the manager is the problems of investment and squad overhaul will still exist. It’s not Emery… Read more »

Joe

Raheem

It’s all because of the agenda of Pedro and some posters on here.

vickingz

U watch Liverpool’s match and the way the players gave their all and you wonder what useless players we have arsenal and a useless coach too.

Dissenter

TR7
“Arnold, Robertson, Wijnaldum, Milner, Gomez, Firmino did not cost much, did they”..

…and you think Klop went out to make all these signings?
Klopp works for an organization that has been hitting bulls eye off the field for the better part of the last half-decade.
Emery works for one that can’t get a DoF in place for the summer window.

I don’t even know if you lot are putting any modicum of thinking behind your posts. It’s just bar blather at this point

Joe

How’s that miss by dembele in the first match coming back to haunt him now

Danish Gooner

Both klopp and pep wanted to come,Lets not forget but give Emery a chance he deserves it.

Un na naai

Joe

You were creaming for emery’s head last week. What’s changed?

Samesong

They showed the highlights on tv when we played city in the that stupid cup and we lost 3-0 last year and the two players faces they highlighted at the end was Xhaka and Mustafi. Neville was proper having a dig calling Arsenal pathetic.

And a year on it’s the same thing.

Radio Raheem

Barca score 4 first leg Liverpool score 5 today. It’s just the way it is.

jwl

I reckon Man City and Liverpool are two best squads in world this season, one wins Premier League and other wins Champs League is fair result.

alexanderhenry

Dissenter

Yes, for a club to be successful it needs drive and the right attitude from every aspect of it.
From top to bottom.

gambon

Marko

Absolute bollocks.

No player comes in without Emery identifying the need, no player stays if the manager doesnt want him.

Stop exaggerating Emerys influence in your desperate attempts to defend him.

Un na naai

Samesong

Yeah
With a better coach
Smarter tactician
£70m worth of additions
And two of the best strikers in Europe settled in and scoring regularly

gambon

Imagine if we were 3-0 down to Barca going into the second leg.

Emery wouldve played 9 defensive players, then spoke absolute nonsense in the press conference.

Joe

Un

You are a slow one

Like I’ve said a million times. Don’t care if Arsenal sack emery if that’s what they want to do. Do
I think they should or will? Not yet?

If things don’t change by nov-Jan depending on if we win EL or not then he can fuck off.

But this crap that Klopp etc would get more out of wenger shit leave behinds is a joke.

It’s an agenda. Nothing else. Pedro still butt hurt arteta didn’t get hired

Un na naai

Jwl

I’d rather Liverpool take the league and one of the other two wins CL.
With us making top four at the weekend and winning EL

vickingz

@ WE, I sometimes wonder whether i’m living in a sane world with some posters here. How could Brighton’s coach motivate his useless players to play well against us but our almighty, all knowing emery couldn’t? Yet some folks make themselves appear utterly stupid defending him

Alex James

This will be Klopp’s 7th straight defeat in a Final lol

As long as it’s not to Spurs!

Paulinho

Gambon – So it was 15 players you wanted booted out then.

Joe

Un

I ain’t like you who will put emery before arsenal like you did for wenger.

You cared more for wenger than you did for Arsenal

Pathetic

Mr Serge

Emery looks like he is watching his mum get beaten up and is scared to help her on the touchline he cannot instill confidence with that look. Plus we have no identity as a playing style I have seen enough to agree with Pedro it’s boring

TR7

Dissenter

A simple question – Did Emery’s Arsenal give their all against Brighton to stay in the race for top 4 like the way Pool players did against Barca tonight ? Forget signings, squad quality and all that…I am simply talking about the desire to win.

Redtruth

gambon
“Imagine if we were 3-0 down to Barca going into the second leg.

We wouldn’t be 3-0 down lol

Un na naai

UnYou are a slow one Like I’ve said a million times. Don’t care if Arsenal sack emery if that’s what they want to do. Do
I think they should or will? Not yet?

Joe
Na Na Na Na Na Na

You said YOU wanted him out. Not the board.
Now you’re trying to absolve him when he can’t beat Brighton palace Everton Leicester and wolves?? Disgraceful end to the campaign from him

Nelson

Any football fan should admire the dedication of those Pool players. Look at their captain, Henderson. He got kick on the knee and still left everything on the pitch. Ozil as captain is a joke. We really have to replace a lot of players to have a chance.

Un na naai

Joe

I’d be carful with Pedro too. You don’t wanna get a proper dressing down again like last time…

Majesticgooner

It would be interesting to see what tactics emery goes with on thursday, if he tries playing the slow plodding football then we could lose, if he plays with the premiership tempo , then we stand a chance, it’s obvious the Italian and Spanish sides find it hard to live with the pace and closing down for 90 mins football that the premiership clubs mostly do, no half hearted closing down or allowing them possession. I expect them to live everything on that pitch , the Burnley match is irrelevant.

London gunner

WE

I was utterly wrong about klopp. Thought he pushed his players too hard with the gegengen pressing and also he lacked defensive foresight.

He then signed vvd and has moderated the press plus he seems to rotate perfectly not too much ala emery which causes confusion but instead rotates enough to keep players fresh and other players included.

However I always rated origi. Was surprised when they loaned him out.

Un na naai

Nelson

Spot on. That’s what happens when you go for homegrown and steep them in the traditions and heritage of the club. They know what it means to bleed Liverpool.

Redtruth

gambon is putting Arsenal on a par with Liverpool in Emery’s first season on a limited budget.

Un na naai

DissenterA simple question – Did Emery’s Arsenal give their all against Brighton to stay in the race for top 4 like the way Pool players did against Barca tonight ? Forget signings, squad quality and all that…I am simply talking about the desire to win.

Tr7

Exactly
We all know the answer to this.

TR7

Has Klopp’s work at Liverpool been more impressive than that of Pep at City ?

Marko

Marko how can you sit there and say that it’s acceptable that we’re put away 9-3 in a week by 3 mid to lower table sides Did I say that anywhere? It’s not acceptable. The performances by the players the last two plus seasons hasn’t been acceptable. Until the squad is overhauled expect more of the same because that’s what they’re capable of. Listen I’m not getting into a back and fourth with 3 or 4 different posters saying the same thing so I’ll lay it out clear for you fuckers. Liverpool and Klopp are where they are right now… Read more »

Paulinho

Klopp is absolute quality, can be very little argument. His final record is a rather bizarre blight but would take him over Guardiola without hesitation.

gambon

Redtruth

Emery had £65m net to spend in his first transfer window.

Klopp had £0

Angeli

Calm down people. Liverpool is in the final but they haven’t won a thing. anything is possible in footie. So calm down. those Ajax boys are little demigods. Liverpool can end up in a phantom zone but they played greatly today. kudos to them

WengerEagle

Vikingz

They’re so far entrenched in that agenda now so have no choice but to defend it to the point of pure comedy.

Tonight besides being painful because of the Dippers’ glory was pretty funny because it completely shit on the idea that Emery is helpless to get anything more out of the side in recent weeks due to the players being completely useless.

Shaqiri and Origi are now gems, Henderson a world class CM, lol.

Ah tbf though we didn’t have Zinedine Ramsey for the 10-4 PL effort vs Wolves, Palace, Brighton, Leicester.

Or the key Danny Welbeck.

Marko

Has Klopp’s work at Liverpool been more impressive than that of Pep at City ?

Yes. No Liverpool manager has come as close to winning the premier league

David Smith

Pierre, Liverpool didn’t have to resort to diving tonite, you are correct, but only because Salah wasn’t playing

zeus

Angeli May 7, 2019 22:34:49

Calm down people. Liverpool is in the final but they haven’t won a thing. anything is possible in footie. So calm down. those Ajax boys are little demigods. Liverpool can end up in a phantom zone but they played greatly today. kudos to them

*****
Everyone is writing off Pochetino…..Football is a funny old game.

gambon

“Liverpool and Klopp are where they are right now because Jurgen Klopp has been allocated time ”

You have got this completely the wrong way round.

Klopp was given time because he IMPROVED the level of performance.

Emery doesnt deserve any time because he HASNT IMPROVED performance.

Redtruth

Klopp finished 8th in his first season at Liverpool.
Emery will finish 5th…

ddkingz

where can I get a Liverpool fan registration form???

if pool win the league, I’m gonna get a Liverpool jersey and always wear it to watch an arsenal match. just to avoid the embarrassing association of this club.

TR7

Paulinho

Do you put Poch up there among the elite managers ? I know you have always admired Klopp.

Zeus

I still think Spurs will go past Ajax tomorrow to reach the finals.

gambon

WengerEagle

Dont forget we have “the most disjointed squad in the history of football”

We didnt have last season apparently, we didnt have when we beat SPurs 4-2, we just have a terrible squad since we capitulated to teams like Palace & Brighton.

HillWood

Marko has had to do some serious back pedalling tonight
What a pillock

WengerEagle

Marko

It’s pretty simple really, Klopp got world class performances tonight out of a few of their average players as well as top purchases like VVD, Allison, Fabinho, Mane missing two of his best forwards and his best player in Salah and Firmino.

Point is that managers are well capable of getting more out of the players at hand and if they aren’t, you should be looking elsewhere.

Why you are struggling so much with this is surprising.

Joe

Gambon

How many players does emery have left from wenger era that could be sold for more than a bag of peanuts

How much has Klopp spent? 500m. Zero trophies.

Dissenter

TR7 “A simple question – Did Emery’s Arsenal give their all against Brighton to stay in the race for top 4 like the way Pool players did against Barca tonight ? Forget signings, squad quality and all that…I am simply talking about the desire to win.” Good question…ANSWER IS NO That’s why you have transfer windows Let see what the club and Emery does when the season is over. I wan’t to see if they will carry on with tinkering around the edges or do a total gut-job. I want to see Arsenal’s resolve because we all know there are… Read more »

vickingz

@ WE, it is well with them, I question their sanity though. At least, they have europa cup to talk about. I’m an arsenal fan and I will never hope we lose so I could drive home my point about emery but i’m seriously thinking what these emery guys would say should we tank europa. It means nothing definite was achieved in emery’s first season, nothing whatsoever other than squandering 70m pounds

GS88

I reckon this Liverpool side is possibly better than our Invincibles.

Just my opinion.

Joe

There is no excuses for the last 5 matches.

Doesn’t mean emery should get sacked yet

Klopp finished 8th. Should he have been sacked?

WengerEagle

They were miracle efforts gambon, Emery showcasing his genius. Can’t be expected to replicate it at the business end of the season now can he? Because now that same group are absolute trash barring Holding, Bellerin, Ramsey and Welbeck.

Who are? Yep, you guessed it.

All injured.

Dissenter

gambon
“Dont forget we have “the most disjointed squad in the history of football”We didn’t have last season apparently, we didn’t have when we beat SPurs 4-2, we just have a terrible squad since we capitulated to teams like Palace & Brighton.”

We had not been playing key gaes back to back for 2-3 weeks non stop
When the manger tried out his irregulars to rest key players for league games scheduled for 72 hours, the whole damn thing collapsed.

TR7

It’s the same Marko who never gets tired of praising Simeone for extracting the most out of his players but when it comes to Emery, his standard go to argument is the team is shit, so Emery can’t do shit.

ddkingz

Any body that talks about arsenal between now and the next 5hrs…. should be taken out the back door and shot in the head..

we should all dedicate this night to discussing about pool and what method they apply at their club that arsenal should adopt..

Joe

I reckon this Liverpool side is possibly better than our Invincibles.Just my opinion.

Not unless they win a trophy

Dissenter

I’m not even sure Liverpool wins this game with Salah and Firminho
Sometimes sh*t happens and we just have to enjoy it.

WengerEagle

Zero trophies, haha.

Yeah, 94-97 PL points and a CL Final still to play what a shitty season they’ve had.

ddkingz

what Wenger couldn’t achieve in 22yrs. j.klopp has achieved in 3 and half seasons…. LEGEND

Dissenter

“Any body that talks about arsenal between now and the next 5 hrs…. should be taken out the back door and shot in the head..we should all dedicate this night to discussing about pool and what method they apply at their club that arsenal should adopt..”

Familiarize yourself with oxymoron
Don’t talk about Arsenal… but talk about Arsenal.

gambon

“Klopp finished 8th. Should he have been sacked?”

Klopp came in 10 games into the season when Liverpool were 10th.

He had no pre-season, he had no transfer window, and he still improved performance significantly in his first 29 games.

Emery DID have a pre-season.

Emery DID have a transfer window, and spent £65m (net)

Emery has not improved performance AT ALL. We are worse at both attacking and defending compared to this time last year.

Emery & Klopps situations are polar opposites.

Dissenter

WE
“94-97 PL points” is not a trophy, that’s just fact.

Joe

Emery may still win the Europa.

I’d wait for the season to end

HighburyLegend

“managers are well capable of getting more out of the players at hand and if they aren’t, you should be looking elsewhere.”

And of course the legendary Anfield’s ambiance had nothing to do with their performance…
(I’m still convinced that wenger killed Arsenal the day he condemned Highbury.)

Paulinho

TR7 – Pochettino is a good manager. I wouldn’t put him quite up with the elite, but he’s consistently gotten a very good tune of that Spurs side for three years now. They have, however, flopped and been flat in important cup games, so there is a question mark because inspiration in key moments can come at a cost of consistency.

That’s why I like Klopp. His teams can perform consistently in the league, and still have that spark in one-off games. Even in the finals he has lost his teams generally give a good account of themselves.

GS88

2004 we should of won the CL, no question.

We had Chelsea by the troat in the quarters, and we let them go to our detriment.

We would of possibly beaten Mourinho’s Porto in the final.

Think we could of won it the year before as well. We were one of the best 3 teams in the world at that time.

Big big shame.

Samesong

DDKingz

Wearing a Liverpool top while watching Arsenal comment is a little disturbing mate.

Dissenter

“He had no pre-season, he had no transfer window, and he still improved performance significantly in his first 29 games.’

Then why did they freeze in the EL final of 2016
Where was the heavy rock blah blah blah?

He did not have the right players to play his system effectively so they huffed and puffed until he got HIS type of players in.

Joe

Gambon

Klopp could only go from 10th to 8th?

Hmm interesting from a manager who can get sooooooooo much out of a player.

Didn’t really do much that year did he

TR7

‘Think aboutnthis for a second before you go off on another Emery-out rant.
****We don’t have a technical director in place foe the summer window.**** That’s the level of the Arsenal organization the manger has to work with. ‘

I don’t know why people attach so much importance to Technical directors and Director of football. Players played with more passion back in the day when nobody knew what the fuck was a DoF .

Marko

Klopp was given time because he IMPROVED the level of performance. He improved the level of performance with time and investment though. Plus you also have to factor in Liverpool were always going to give him the necessary time because he was a name and there wasn’t likely to be a more obvious choice to replace him as well. Gambon I’m going to tell you something that might shock you to your core but clubs sacking managers after one season unless they see improvement that doesn’t really happen especially at big clubs. Unless it’s something ridiculously obvious or things got… Read more »

WengerEagle

Dissenter

To lazily say that it’s ‘not a trophy’ is weak, how can you not acknowledge that they’ve pushed the greatest and deepest PL side of all-time under arguably the best manager of all time to the last match of the season?

And made the CL Final? Obviously winning it or losing it will have a significant effect on their season’s feat but they’ve been incredible and only a blind man would disagree.

Redtruth

gambon
“We didnt have last season apparently, we didnt have when we beat SPurs 4-2, we just have a terrible squad since we capitulated to teams like Palace & Brighton.”

You’ve never rated the 6th best squad in the league

Dissenter

Liverpool just added a big chink to their market value with this victory.
They are the club of romance, for people who like to dream
What a turn around in the last decade of Wenger’s reign…and it predates Klopp.

Paulinho

“I still think Spurs will go past Ajax tomorrow to reach the finals.”

Horrible feeling that will happen as well.

Was impressed with Van De Beek in the first leg, and obviously the young centre back, but they looked there for the taking after 30 minutes, and that was with a week’s more rest. If Son is back I fear the worst.

Joe

Again

I could give a fuck if they fire emery

But to think that any other manager would have done much better with the shower of shit wenger left behind us kidding themselves

Klopp spent as much on one CB as emery did on 5 players.

gambon

Joe

So you think Klopp was able to implement his ideas immediately?

He took over 10 games into a 38 game season.

Emery had 2 months before he even played a competitive game, a month of daily training, 4-5 pre-season games.

Klopp had 3 days, probably 2 training sessions.

And i’ll say again…..Klopp improved the team in his first 29 games.

EMery had delivered no improvement in his first 37 games.

ddkingz

this pool side is fkkking better than arsenal invisible… 3eurpean final in four years… incredible…

can arsenal just swap aubameyang +cash for origi? I think is possible.

can we swap iwobi +cash for shaqiri??

like I said some days ago, can we swap all our defenders for VVD???

I will be fully relaxed with VVD as the last man standing vs messi, Suarez and dembele at an field, than just messi on a mazy vs all our defenders at the emirates.

Marko

Point is that managers are well capable of getting more out of the players at hand and if they aren’t, you should be looking elsewhere.

Sure sure. But again I say tonight doesn’t happen without the investment and the time Klopp put in working with the squad. It’s that simple. There’s a reason that you didn’t see it in his first full season or in his first half season

GS88

I’d give Emery another season, if he wins the EL.

Part of me wants see how he fears with his own players bought in.

I’ve said on here before that we need a complete clear out. I’d say we need between 6-8 players, mainly defensive players.

But if Emery fails with this next season, then we should move him on.

I’d give Vieira a try or even someone such as Simeone.

Redtruth

Klopp took a Liverpool side who finished 6th the previous season to 8th.

WengerEagle

Marko

So you’re basically agreeing with me then that Emery could have got more out of the group these past couple of weeks?

gambon

“He improved the level of performance with time and investment though.”

Wrong.

He improved the level of performance significantly in his first 29 games with no pre-season and obviously no transfer window.

He then spent £0 and got them in the top 4.

Emery had a pre-season, £65m spent, and had made us worse.