IT’S WELBZ TIME
Arsenal’s draw against Sporting Lisbon was spoiled with a horrendous injury to the main man, Danny Welbeck. He was challenging for a cross and it looked like his ankle crunched with an awkward fall. The man is the unluckiest guy at Arsenal. Absolutely awful to see.
The added layer of toughness is this: his deal runs out in the summer. I know Arsenal aren’t a charity, but it’s going to be tough not to have a heart for someone whose money will dry up in June with an awful injury.
What do you do there? I trust in Arsenal here. Not like the man hasn’t gone all out for us whenever he’s been given a chance.
As for the game, what can you say? Sporting didn’t register a shot on target in either leg, we’re on top of the group, we’ve qualified in that position if we finish off the next two games without hiccup.
There was additional bad news as Stephen Lichtsteiner proved that despite protest, his body isn’t actually that of a 28-year-old as he pulled up with a strain. I can recognise his leadership skills, but it does seem quite irresponsible of us to have had him as back up this season. We’re going to struggle on the right if we don’t address the weakness this January. AMN will help there, but it’s not his natural position.
There’s not really that much to talk of regarding moments on the pitch. No one really stood out, though I did think we were worthy of the win after creating some good chances, particularly in the second half.
The positives are that we’re unbeaten in 15 games. We drew after making 9 changes. It’s also very tough for a team to pick themselves up after a horrific injury to a teammate, as Emery pointed out.
“The worst news is injuries. He was working well, having a good game, he had a chance to score. When you are playing football, when you are playing competitive matches, it can happen. You don’t want that.
“But that is our profession. When a player is having an injury like that the players on the pitch look at it, and in your mind you are thinking of the player. At the end of the match the players asked for him.”
The most important game is this Sunday. Wolves are going to stretch us after a European game, so we have to be motivated and sharp. That game is a real banana skin. Lots of good players, lots of potential. All very exciting. Still can’t believe we’re not 19 points behind as we usually are at this stage of the season.
Right, that’s me done. See you in the comments for a fight. x
Dissenter “Watching the moving images from Leicester It’s obvious that home fans will love any owner that shares their love of the club, regardless of the owner’s nationality, creed or faith.” This thought crossed my mind…….rightly or wrongly… if one was being cynical ,you could ask the question that if Leicester were relegated (they were close) the season before they won the league and continued to struggle and were relegated into league one , would there be such an outpouring of grief from the Leicester supporters towards a man who had overseen one ,possibly two relegations…………………. Of course, some people… Read more »
Fantastic luck for spuds. No Zaha, jammy goal and Palace missing a 100% chance in the 90-th minute. Luck is such a big part of the game.
Reiss Nelson is on fire. But can he dribble past defenders? Otherwise he’s not going to make it
Wolves will be a fascinating matchup tomorrow because they play in a very similar way to us. They press hard use their wingbacks to support their attackers on the counter to provide width and use through balls from their excellent defensive midfielders who try to support their wingers with balls which they then try to cross mercilessly into the box for their striker. However, because they press so high with their wingbacks they potentially leave loads of space on either side of their central defenders. If we can win the midfield battles and not dwell on the ball too long… Read more »
https://arseblog.news/2018/11/emery-welbeck-injury-can-open-door-for-nketiah/
Yes, yes yes. Glad to see it’s not just me singing his praises.
Mata on a Bosman in the summer? Umm yes please. Makes up nicely for the whole lotta nothing we’re going to get when Ramsey exits. Better player as well.
Mata is an experienced head and all but I don’t think he’s the answer to any of our problems
We don’t need him at AM, he’s not the answer out wide, he shouldn’t be playing in our two deep slots. I know he’s probably just bought as a bench player but I don’t feel this one makes any sense outside of the price tag
Does mata improve us? I’d have to say not really. We shouldn’t be motivated by his price but by what he brings to the table. I don’t see him bringing too much on that front.
I also think we should sell mikki but still don’t think we need mata
Iwobi and xhaka could both do a job (differently) as ozil’s backup at n10
If xhaka is pushed into that role when ozil is injured/dropped guen gets a chance to play Cm. That’s not a bad idea imo
If we’re going to buy anyone as a matter of urgency a wide forward and a CB should be top priority
I agree with a lot of posters in here. Mata doesn’t bring anything we don’t already have. We need wingers and full backs, not AM.
If Aubameyang needs any motivation to perform today he should listen to Adrian Durham’s amazing rant against him winning the Player of the Month award.
What’s his problem with Arsenal anyway?
I would love to see Auba shut him up by scoring a hat trick today.
Interesting business and technical analysis of Wolves, and comparison with Emery play a well. . http://7amkickoff.com/index.php/2017/02/22/post-transfer-recap-redux-how-well-have-i-predicted-success/ Didn’t know Wolves’ cosy relationship with Mednes …only we had some of that in scouting With Fosun ownership, Wolves may go places (up, I guess). Fosun is basically the China Blackrock. Massive. Hope for an ‘easy’ win (at least leading @ HT). In reality, hummm…. Goal conversion is coming down to Earth it seems and more in tune with xG, as many predicted. Let’s break that spell and score 3 by HT… as long as we didn’t concede 4. Spuds were lucky bast*ads really.… Read more »
*only IF *
More reports on getting a (again 30yo+) CB from Juve and an out of form 22yo striker (from Ligue 1?). Pepe is on paper too expensive for AFC and a loan deal with Barca on Demebele is unlikely (probably agent speak). Havantz (sp?) would be a dream base on clips… but price tag would be sky high. In any case Emery saying Welbeck’s injuries wouldn’t impact the Jan TW… may be he meant to say he’d still bring 5 players in!! Mata (or Cecs) is an interesting one. With unpredictable performance from Ozil/ Mikki/ Ramsey (off soon?) / Iwobi /… Read more »
Gons Actually I disagree regarding mata We have too few technically gifted players in our side. When teams park the bus as palace did we are finding it rather difficult to create chances. The fact that Aubameyang and Lacazette have been so prolific when presented with chances has kind of overshadowed this fact. Yes we do need a winger and yes we do need to add 2-3 defenders in the summer but I wouldn’t turn down a proven match winner for free on a two year deal. Mata is quality. He changes games and is a leader too. He’s won… Read more »
China Does mata improve us? I’d have to say not really. We shouldn’t be motivated by his price but by what he brings to the table. I don’t see him bringing too much on that front. You know who you sound like? He would improve us of course. He would be a kick up the arse for ozil. He has top level quality. Jose screwed his career. Do you not remember how good he was/is when he gets the chance?? Those days where ozil is going through the motions we sub him and bring mata into the game. Or just… Read more »
un nai
I don’t really see how a 30 something CAM is going to improve us ? I’d take Nasri or Cesc over Mata though.
I’m not saying Mata isn’t good but since going to Manchester, he’s been very inconsistent with his performances.
Gonsterous Who’s been constantly good at United? It’s acareer graveyard since fergie left. How many top class players have bombed there since? It’s not really a true reflection of the quality someone like mata brings. He’s still more of a big occasion player than ozil. More of a leader. Turns up for away days. And he’s free. I’d have him. It’s funny. You’re all sounding like wenger. 31 is over the hill? Not for a no10 it isn’t. If the budget is tight and we get Pepe and a couple of decent full backs and a centre half then why… Read more »
una nai
as bad as Wenger was, he was right in not getting players over 31, or giving them long contracts. Mata is great and I would be all over him if he was 28/29. At the moment, I’ll be happy to get a winger and a lb and then see where we can go in terms of buying.
Also, neither of us are wrong. It’s all opinions. So instead of dragging this convo, let’s just agree to disagree
I’ve always felt we never take advantage of the players from the lower end of the table. Teams like palace, west ham, Everton, have good players, who would be excellent at adding squad depth.
Also, no point in recalling Reiss as he’s having a good season and I’m sure he’s happy to be getting minutes, atm
Un na I’m not sure who you think I sound like but we just disagree I haven’t seen him tearing trees up at Utd to be honest. His best days were back at Chelsea He’s a harder worker than ozil, true. But ozil has more talent, so I’m not sure he wins that one. As for mikki, well maybe, but I don’t feel enthused about an ageing mata on the bench. He’s not bad but I don’t think he’s really that good anymore Signing him reminds me a bit of signing mikki – we got him because it was part… Read more »
Don’t forget we’ve lost jack, Alexis and santi on a free and will lose welbz and Ramsey on a free
That’s over £150m easily in funds. This players need to be replaced
If we are thinking logically then adding mata for free while using the money we do have for more pressing issues would be the most sensible option.
I’d take fab too. They add exceptional technical quality and a winning mentality. Something our current squad is sorely lacking.
My last post didn’t go through
What banned world did I use?
Wenger?
Wilshere?
If we sold mikki and got mata on a free there’s a business case there But if we keep mikki and ozil I don’t know where mata fits in. Also regarding his winning mentality, I may be wrong but he’s never struck me as the vocal leader type. If we’re signing players based as much about intangibles like personality and mentality then I’d rather have a vocal champion who will help keep the younger players on the straight and narrow and drive the dressing room on Maybe mata can do that but I haven’t personally seen him as that kind… Read more »
Will cesc be free this summer? If we were only looking at short term experienced squad players I’d rather take cesc all things being equal Maybe it’s because I’m an arsenal fan and he’s one of my top 3 favourite ever players, but as an arsenal player if you could be sitting next to cesc or mata in the dressing room before the game, I know I’d rather be with cesc He’s a (kind of) legend here, he bled for the club and a good thing about cesc was that he could scrap when necessary. The Ferguson pizza throw for… Read more »
China
I’ll tell you where mata fits in. Away games and big games agaisnt big sides. The games where ozil clearly can’t be bothered. Maybe real competition might be the kick up his arse that he needs. We don’t have an alternative there if he doesn’t turn up.
Yes fabregas is available and I’d have him too
Couldn’t hurt to have him, guendouzi, Torreira and Xakha as our 4cms
“Don’t forget we’ve lost jack, Alexis and santi on a free and will lose welbz and Ramsey on a free. That’s over £150m easily in funds.”
Easily over £150m in funds?
Alexis was worth £60m on his best day, and that was probably during his first season with us. That leaves ‘easily over’ £90m between an over-30 Santi, a single purple patch Ramsey, a sick note Wilshere, and Welbeck (who has never scored more than 5 league goals for us in a season, ever).
Un na naai thinks Wilshere was worth £50m on his own.
Jamie
Tut tut son. Hold your tongue for a sec and analyse the value of the player.
Sanchez would have gone for £70-£80m upwards mid contract.
Ramsey £30m upward
Wilshere £20m
Santi £15m
Welbeck £15m
True I’d not have let Wilshere go for that money but that’s a fair value for an extremely talented albeit injury prone midfielder
If we could get £35m for the ox and Berkeley went to Chelsea for over £30m then Ramsey and Wilshere could fetch similar fees mid contract.
Don – If any club in world football had offered £80m for Alexis mid-contract, he would’ve been sold in a New York minute. Like I said, he reached peak value at the end of his first season with us. Are you suggesting that’s when we should’ve sold him? After one season? Ramsey might have been worth £30-40m right after his purple patch a few years ago. Should we have sold him right after he finally started to find some form? Wilshere was never worth £20m, even as a 19 year old with potential. He’s been perennially injured, and on much… Read more »
when transfer fees weren’t quite as ludicrous*
https://twitter.com/hughwizzy/status/1060850154167848960 Aubameyang to Arsenal: * wages = £198k/week * £15.15m loyalty bonus (4 installments, total due before 2021) * £2.26m/year Champions League bonus (received last season) * £300k bonus for 25 goal contributions in a season * £50k bonus per match he starts which Arsenal win Just read that. Holy balls! So his real salary WHEN we win is ~£250k. That’s a lot of money I didn’t know we’re giving him. Not that he doesn’t deserve it but I wasn’t aware of it. Not sure about the part that he supposedly received Champions League money when we didn’t qualify in… Read more »
Are Arsenal in some sort of TV today?
City offered 60m for Alexis on deadline day of summer 2017. It’s well known as well as our outrageous bid to buy Lemar for the mind-blowing 40m IN ADDITION to the 60m we were going to get for Alexis. http://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-transfers/story/3194267/arsene-wenger-monacos-thomas-lemar-rejected-arsenal-move-alexis-sanchez-deal-not-very-close Just watched a video of ESPN about the Lemar – Alexis fiasco where the commentator said: “How things have changed for Arsenal FC. Twelve or so years ago were the Invincibles, how you wanted to be a part of that team. Now, even with a 100m pounds they couldn’t get their man” Then our very own Steward Robson said the… Read more »
GoH –
BeIn Sports shows all the games.
Jamie Not very bright are you? Yes he’d have gone for £70m easily. I think we could have got £80m for him 25 goals and 20 assists a season guaranteed?? Wake up No I’m not suggesting we sell him after a season. I’m suggesting we sign him up then if we want to sell we hold the ace cards. Basic economics If Ox and Barkley go for £35m then why can’t Ramsey and Wilshere fetch similar fees? Yes I think we could have got £15m for welbz Maybe santi if he was kept fit could have fetched £10-£15m But Jamie.… Read more »
Don –
I told you Ross Barkley didn’t go for £35m, he went to Chelsea for £15m, so you repeatedly asking why Ramsey and Wilshere ‘couldn’t fetch similar fees of £35m’ doesn’t make any kind of sense.
If “acting like a bloke” means imitating your behaviour, I’ll pass. What do you call the kind of behaviour someone needs to exhibit when they’re banned from a football blog for continuous shit-posting, and they have to create another account to slip back in through the side door?
Can see Fulham getting ripped a new one today.
Chambers playing in midfield should be an interesting one.
Bloody hate the bindippers.
Jamie How about you focus on the point rather than petty semantics. That would be a start. Ok so Barkley went for £15m plus addons while injured You saying Wilshere couldn’t command more? And yes the also injury prone Ox went for £35m. Ramsey and Wilshere are both better players. So what exactly is your point here Jamie? So we make £100m instead of £150m Even if that’s correct (I don’t care) it doesn’t detract from the wider point that we aren’t swimming in the cash needed to overhaul the entire team and compete with city. So mata on a… Read more »
Don – You seem upset. You posted some player fees you conjured up out of thin air on a public forum. If you didn’t want your ideas or opinions scrutinised, you perhaps shouldn’t have posted anything. My point is that your idea of what players are worth is way off the mark. Alexis, Santi, Wilshere, Ramsey, Welbeck all worth significantly less than the numbers you’re offering up, and that you dismiss your erroneous valuation of Barkley as ‘petty semantics’ when you’re discussing transfer fees is funny stuff. Keep it up with the blokey manly teenage girl menstruation chat. Ad hominems… Read more »
Refs influencing yet another game.
Yesterday they cost the three points for Southampton by not counting a clean goal at 1:0 for them. Yesterday as well Bournemouth had a 100% pen at 1:0 for Newcastle and instead of 1:1 it got to 2:0.
Today Fulham got what looked like a clean goal but instead Pool scored 10 seconds later with their keeper taking the free kick for the supposed offside, while the ball was moving. Laughable.
Raptora,
Nothing will change until var comes in.
If you can have it at the world cup, it should be in every top league.
Up 4 grabs now,
I agree.
Once upon a time the FA was taking bold decision that shaped up the EPL into the multi billion monster that today is. Those days are gone.
They know they’ll have to add it one day, but they don’t want this day to come.
I mean right now it had to be 0:1 for Fulham instead of 1:0 for bindippers. It makes a world difference.
Raptora,
I don’t know who has the final say if it’s the premier league or the FA.
Either way it needs to come in next season.
I mean right now it had to be 0:1 for Fulham instead of 1:0 for bindippers. It makes a world difference.” Not to mention also the effect it will likely cause for the Fulham manager he’s been hanging by a thread for sometime now and ironically has done admirably well in a match which nobody has given them a chance in hell to get anything from before kick off, but for outright incompetency from the refs would likely end up costing his job. Dippers are a joke Notice also how the media is awfully quiet on it but If it… Read more »
Jamie Are you naturally childish or do you practice? My point is not the exact worth of these players but that we missed a trick by not selling them for all we could get. Quibbling about wether we could get £60 or £80m for Alexis is not the point. Having to sign certain players on a lesser budget than we should have is my point. Having proven winners like cesc and mata is my point. You seem like quite a smart bloke yet fail to grasp the relevance of my point. So I can only conclude you’re either autistic or… Read more »
Been a bad weeked for us even before kick off
Spuds fluked their way to a jammy 3 points against c.palace
And now dippers
Made the 2 points dropped against c.palace become even more unbearable
Really does look costly now
I mean we should have held on for the win at all cost,since then, they’ve played 2 of our immediate rivals and got nothing.
Now we go into the next international bore stuck at 5th.arghhhh
Ok so Barkley went for £15m plus addons while injured You saying Wilshere couldn’t command more? It was 15 million plus 20 million in add on’s right? First things first Wilshere is ridiculously overrated and a sick note and secondly and this is hugely important to realize and that is Jack Wilshere goes for 35 million if someone is willing to pay 35 million for him and that’s it really. Don you can pull figures out your ass all you want but the facts are over the years no one’s tried to sign him and even when he stayed fit… Read more »
Don – Can’t find anything childish in my previous posts. Citation required. I’m ‘failing to grasp the relevance of your post’ because it doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. It doesn’t make any sense in sporting terms to sell your players when they’re in peak form, which is usually what’s required to achieve the outrageous fees you’ve suggested some of our players are/were worth. Had we known Alexis would’ve downed tools in the final 1.5 years of his contract, yes, it would have been better business in retrospect to sell him after year 1 for £60m, financially speaking. Had we known… Read more »
Marko Here he comes look. Marko. Did I say Wilshere goes for £35m?? Noooo. I said around £20m is a reasonable fee for a player of his quality. Let’s face it, none of you lot though ox was worth £35m you were all touting figures way less than that with his contract running down and quite frankly Wilshere is the better player when fit. I’m not getting dragged into another fuckin jw debate but if the ox is going for that then we could have made a lot more on Ramsey and Wilshere than ZERO DO YOU GET IT NOW???… Read more »
Jamie yesssss Had we had we had we if If if We didn’t though. I’m agreeing with you. My point does stand up to scrutiny My point is that we should have made a lot of money off of those 5 players Ok you don’t think they are worth that much. Who cares. I’m not arguing that point. I’m arguing that we should have made money and didn’t. Now that we haven’t I think that mata represents a viable option considering we need to allocate existing funds to the wing and defensive positions You add in fab and mata on… Read more »
Lots of uppercase and question marks. Don is so triggered.
“Ok, ok. So my valuations are off, but some money is better than zero money.”
Insightful Don is insightful.
I find it curious to reflect on the way fans have double standards about players and money.
On the one hand they push a ruthless policy of “binning” semi crocked players with the statement we aren’t a charity….. On the other hand players wanting to leave the club, like the wasted-through-wenger RVP are labelled a Judas.. Also players wanting to financially better themselves are slaughtered.
Seems like there’s no consistency and clear thought.
Did I say Wilshere goes for £35m??
Alex oxlade chamberlain- an injury prone under achiever struggling for form was sold for £35m 6 MONTHS before his contract ended
We could have fetched similar fees for Ramsey and Wilshere
Eh I believe you did yes.
My point is that we should have made a lot of money off of those 5 players
Ok you don’t think they are worth that much. Who cares. I’m not arguing that point. I’m arguing that we should have made money and didn’t.
Sounds like your issue is with Arsene Wenger then Don who refused to sell Wilshere and kept giving him undeserved new contracts. To be fair to him though he never really rejected any offers for Jack Wilshere cause there never was any really.
Marko
Key words- could have, similar-meaning not £35m but a similar fee potentially.
You really do make Tim nice but dim look like Einstein.
If Alex song goes for £17m and ox goes for £35 then Wilshere is 100% somewhere between.
Ramsey is £35m easily too
Welbz is £15m and Sanchez is £70m easy. All in contract and fit those players fetch those fees.
Either way. Thanks for turning a reasonable point in to a childish race to the bottom over nothing.
Bellends
Marko –
In before Don’s “did I say exactly £35m?”
Damn. Too late.
Absolutely need to win today. A draw will
Not be good enough with all results around us not going our way
A draw is like a loss today
Liverpool’s first goal was bollocks. Cheating scum
Classic Don he says something is challenged on it and then slowly backs out of his original comment. Wilshere’s gone from over 35 million to 35 million and now somewhere between 17 million and 35 million. How about his real worth which is nothing because that’s all he’s ever gone for. Or if you have criticism of how we handled him you aim some criticism at Arsene. We should have and if and buts who cares
Marko I think it’s well versed that I’d have kept Wilshere, however if he were to leave then why not maximise profit? Why not maximise profit with every single one of these players who will bring in a big fat zero? And why blame just wenger? Wilshere, santi ramsey and welbz will all leave after wenger left. Wenger wasn’t even around to charge the fee and if we were getting £17m for song and £35m for the ox under his tenure then I’d wager that we would have recouped a lot more for said players than we actually have. Jamie… Read more »
If coutinho is going For £142m then Sanchez is going for more by the way Jamie
Sanchez was by far the better player in his time at arsenal, Barca and udinese.
Marko
Read back stupid
I said £20m
At least get the basis of your petty insults correct. And yeah I do think we could have got more than that. But I’d have accepted £20m as acceptable for a player that was frequently injured.
Did you think the ox would go for £35m??? So why could we not maximise profit on Wilshere??
Mikki out – Iwobi in.
Don –
A similar figure to £35m is not £20m. “Basic economics.”
Alexis better than Coutinho? As what, an attacking mid? Crazier than when you said Wilshere was worth a similar figure to £35m.
Marko
Let me hit you with some knowledge
JamieTut tut son. Hold your tongue for a sec and analyse the value of the player.
Sanchez would have gone for £70-£80m upwards mid contract.
Ramsey £30m upward
Wilshere £20m
Santi £15m
Welbeck £15m
My original estimate of what I think each player could garner in todays markethad contracts been sorted properly.
Little truth bomb for ya
So pipe down you pair of muttttttts
however if he were to leave then why not maximise profit? Again what part of no one bid for him no one wanted him aren’t you getting? There’s no point in saying that we should have sold for between 17 million and over 35 million when not one bid came in because no one wanted him And why blame just wenger? Wilshere, santi ramsey and welbz will all leave after wenger left. Santi and Jacks contracts ran out the same summer he got sacked therefore he could have sold Jack prior to allowing his contract to run out. Same for… Read more »
strong line up, is this our strongest line up ? Also, am I the only one who rated Ox above wilshere ? Ox changed some games when he came on. Wilshere did next to nothing.
Leno, Bellerin, Holding, Mustafi, Kolasinac, Torreira, Xhaka, Iwobi, Ozil, Lacazette, Aubameyang
Subs: Cech, Sokratis, Mkhitaryan, Ramsey, Maitland-Niles, Guendouzi, Nketiah
Marko
That’s your point now you mean
Er nope. That was my original point. If you care to actually read marko then you’d have known that. Instead you jumped in without bothering to read back and assume that this is all over my valuation of Wilshere
I couldn’t care less what your valuation of him is. We still should have got more out of the 5 Bosnians we’ve let leave.
Why all the histrionics about should of, would of and could of regarding past players.
Do we not have a game tonight?
I get talking about Mata and Cesc as that’s current.
All I care about is getting back to winning games and leaving the PL game draws behind us.
Looking forward to the game and another win.
Pierre
You an old git now? Find that hard to believe, you’ve probably been some kind of git all your life lol.
Cheers enjoy the game.
Mykhi is such a waste of money. He was underwhelming at United and is certainly not working out for us.
We should have taken the fee in cash, maybe squeezed £15-25 million from United that January.
Jamie
As whatever you like
He was the better player
His stats prove it. Bigger numbers than coutinho year after year. City were offering £60-£70m 6 months before his contract ran down. Imagine what we could have got for him if it hadn’t.
Did you think the ox would go for £35m??? So why could we not maximise profit on Wilshere?? Again last time because at this stage I think you’re purposefully being stupid. Ox went for 35 million because he had a club willing to pay that for him so you saying that Jack should have gone for more and then should have gone for between 17 and 35 million (you came to 20 million btw) is stupid because no one was willing to pay anything for him. Let me hit you with some knowledge…Hold your tongue for a sec and analyse… Read more »
gonsterous
No, not our strongest line up but will do for now
Monreal for Kolasinac
Papa/Koscielny for Mustafi will make it close
That said, the team today shouldn’t have any problems sweeping aside wolves
Basically a must win as the top4 are pulling away
TonyD
Yes. That’s my point. Had we made more money from our bosmans then we could have been looking at players in their peak but as it stands I feel that mata and cesc would be valuable additions on a free while we utilise our alocated funds in other more pressing areas of the team.
Marko
Ah fuck it. I give up. You must be on the spectrum. Either that or you’re trying to wind me up. Conversation over.
Everton still holding chavs
Hope it stays that way
That would be some nice 2points dropped by the rent boys
Un na
Coutinho signed a contract extension in January 2017, that’s why thelse transfer value was crazy. Therewas also the small matter of Barca trying to regain credibility after Newmar left. Everyone knew Barca had to spend it hence Liverpool demanding for an extortionate amount, more so after they overpaid for Dembele.
I’m trying to follow the premise of your argument. I
City Sampdoria juventus and Milan were interested in Wilshere too by the way
Why do you think Durham skated him for choosing West Ham and staying in his comfort zone??
Rudiger is a very good defender.
“City Sampdoria juventus and Milan were interested in Wilshere too by the way”
Yea…right, and so were then physios.
If you’re saying that Wenger should have sold Jack years ago I agree with you even though it seems no one really wanted him. If you’re saying that he should be going for 35 million or 20 million you’re wrong because again no one was willing to pay that for him. If you’re saying that Sanchez should be going for 70-80 million mid contract but then say he should be going for more than 142 million then you are for want of a better word all over the place.
Live score gives Leno starting Sead at LB Iwobi on the right with Ozil and Auba.
Laca up top and Xhaka and Torreira midfield.
Hope Ramsey stays on the bench with Eddie getting some minutes.
Dissenter The premise is this We should have got a lot more from our bosmans than we have. The discussion was about wether or not we should sign mata and I said that I think he’d represent value on a free so we could spend in other areas. Others were saying he’s too old and my response was that had we made money on the free transfers then we could adopted to sign someone more in his prime but as it stands we didn’t so i would take both him and cesc while using the funds on a winger, 2… Read more »
City Sampdoria juventus and Milan were interested in Wilshere too by the way
Interested in him so much so that they never bid for him or even offered him a contract when he was available for nothing. Juve bought Khedira, Milan still have Montolivo and City signed Fernando over the years so those clubs aren’t adverse to the occasional bad midfielder at their clubs and yet never went for Jack
Barca 0:2 down to Betis at half time
R.Madrid will be chuffed to bit.
Have the funny feeling that the chavs will score
The premise is this
We should have got a lot more from our bosmans than we have.
Well then your gripe is with Wenger who allowed the contracts of players in recent years to run down and who wasn’t proactive enough in trying to sell clearly not good enough players like Jack Wilshere
Hope Everton can hold them with these 5 extra minutes to play.
Wilshere was never worth more than 10m.
He’s a MF version of Jenkinson. Holds more value for certain fans because he’s a gooners and bleeds arsenal. Blah blah.
He went for a free. No one ever bid for him. Ever. Even when he was on “top” of his game.
Like Ramsey. Over rated average player
Like pep said. “We have 100 jacks in our academy”
Marko
I’m saying that Sanchez is worth at least that and that Wilshere is worth at least £20m if the ox goes for £35m
Not bang on £35m. Not that real and Barca are throwing down for him. Just that he’s got to be worth somtheing similar to the ox.
Now I’m sick of talking about jack
He’s gone
Let me mourne in peace.
Morata is such a diving cu*t
Marko
Milan and Napoli made offers but he wanted to be close to his kids
He had credible offers but chose the easy option.
Let me mourne
Marko
My gripe is with nobody
It is what it is. We didn’t get the money and now we are here. So I’m out current state I’d take cesc and mata
That was my point
Fuck me it’s taken all day to come full circle to this???
Real bright sparks out today
No one wanted to buy jack. Had no choice but to let him go on a free.
Sanchez not being sold is wenger’s fault. He held on to him through summer when he should have been sold.
No one made a bid for Rasmey this summer either even though he only had one season left on his deal. Could have had him for cheap but still no one bid
Chelsea bought Barkley rather than make a bid for Ransey.
Something wrong with this site
My last comment was a grammar correction and it wouldn’t land. Getting annoying
No to both Cesc and mata. 3 years too late for both of them.
We can do better. That’s why we have our great new back room staff.
More of torriera and guenz style signings
Interesting choice of Barnet colour for Aguero…
Dissenter.
Yes. Been saying it since the swap happened.
Mkhit was a bad deal for us. We should have taken cash
Not good enough for united but we took
Him for Sanchez. Wenger banter. Because wenger was going to make him better than Jose did hahahahaha
Good to see Chelsea drop points. For now, I think City and the Spuds top two with us, Liverpool, Chelsea and Utd fighting for the other two CL spots. We need other teams to drop points as much as we need three pts on the regular.
Hope for a three goal City win today with three points for us on the lush Emirates carpet.