Ramsey end game is sad, but it shows the evolution at Arsenal

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The effects of the Ramsey contract renewal are still being felt… by the player.

“Hopefully somebody will come up and tell me why,”

“I’ll accept that if there’s a reason. When the time is right, I probably will find out but that hasn’t happened yet.

“There is no contract on the table at the moment so there is nothing for me to consider or whatever. We all know that the contract was taken away off the table. I’m not sure exactly why because a few weeks before we sort of agreed and I was ready to sign.”

“I think any player who is on the bench would be disappointed not to play but I’m part of the team and I want the team to do well,” he said. “We are all in it together to try and achieve the same objective. I’m going out and playing the way I have always played. I try to give my best for the team, help the team and try and go out there and play the best I can for myself as well. Nothing’s in my head when I’m out there; I’m just trying to have fun on the football pitch.

Kind of tough to read, he’s been an excellent servant to us, won 3 FA Cups, broke his leg and came back from hell… the fans love him. He’s one of our own, and it’ll be quite sad to see him exit.

I think the move is quite shocking, because we’ve been dicked around by players for the best part of 20 years. It feels alien that the board would initiate such an aggressive retraction. However, you can see why. Ozil bent us over the barrel with his outrageous deal, but at the very least, he has a commercial value. He’s the face of Adidas, he has sycophantic fanboy son all continents and he’s a world class player.

Aaron on the other hand is much admired, but he’s not kicked his game up to mega money levels. If you’re looking at this rationally, you have to look at the Welshman’s output and what £300k a week would mean for Emery’s ability to make big moves this summer.

How big has the impact been from Torreira? Massive. He’s earning no more than £65k a week. How much potential do we have in Matteo G? Unreal amounts. What’s he going to be earning, £40k a week. Then you have Ramsey, who can’t seem to operate with Ozil or Mikhi, hasn’t been able to cement a preferred positon at 28, and has suspect fitness… and he’s demanding  4.6x Torriera… I mean, that’s fucking insane.

I think the deal was pulled for a number of reasons. Firstly, Emery realised pretty quickly that Aaron at #10 was never going to be as sublime as Ozil. Then he probably noted that to be truly effective, you have to give him a free role… but he’s not really good enough to be afforded that sort of luxury. Emery needs cogs that work in his machine. Wenger had a crack at making art, but it eventually crashed us in also-rans.

The Aaron Ramsey debacle is what happens when you buy pieces without a grand vision. That’s why our squad is still in a mess. There was never a plan. Bottle them up, shake, pray for the best was the strategy and it just stopped working in the end. Sven, Raul and Emery now have to unpick the mess, and they’re going to struggle to do that with £600k worth of talent that can’t play together.

Ramsey was the sacrificial lamb. It’s cost him a fortune, and no doubt it’s set us back £50m in transfer fees.

But the show goes on… sport is ruthless, but it’s hard to feel too much for a man who makes more in a week than most do in a year. He’ll be ok, probably end up at United or Chelsea, and he’ll have a good close to his career.

At least he’s not going to Spurs.

I’m just excited big decisions are being made on data, guiding principles and a master plan.

We’ve dreamed of this… it’s happening… suck it up and enjoy the ride.

The real banter? Carl Jenks will be the last Brit standing from that famous British Core announcement. Guy has more sticking power than curry on a white a shirt. Legend. x

 

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Victorious

Hopefully the plonkers pushing the #EKB malarkey will give it a bit of rest now
shitty first halfs and semi- decent second was bound to catch up with us.
Not enough quality today with and without the ball
Hope Emery doesn’t let the heads drop as dippers will be licking their lips against our panicky defense

Cesc Appeal

I didn’t think Aubameyang was any good either, wouldn’t say he was an outlet personally.

That was part of the problem, most every pass our attackers made was wrong, they dribbled into trouble and took too many touches. Slow and lacking precision.

Lacazette was bad today, certainly, that’s the second time he’s played an unnecessary pass this season that has led to a goal against us. One against Chelsea and then today from our corner, for some reason he tried a chip ball back to Torreira which was intercepted and led to the penalty.

steve

Still way too many shit players in the squad signed by the specialist in failure.

Redtruth

Chelsea were seconds away from losing at home to Man Utd so i am not buying they are better than us crap.

Victorious

Still 4th at best from where i sit

City,dippers,chavs top 3 and a dog fight between us,spuds and united for 4th

Alot hinges on our winter transfer business, there’s a desperate need for a LB and arguably a tricky winger

A look at how Zaha individually wrecked havoc on our defense today will tell you how such a player can be of of utter valuable to us.

karim

Dream

Dunno. Think they’re too reliant on Hazard, hope Madrid finally gets him

Joe

Fucking Vicky has been absent for a weeks now while we’ve been racking up the wins and comes back the first time we drop points

Fuck off victorious. Every one can see through your bollocks

Still undefeated in 12. Suck on that akb

Redtruth

This Arsenal side should not be losing at home to anyone.
Fuck me, even under Wenger Arsenal didn’t lose to Livrrpool at home last season.

Pierre

Marko…”Life is futile”?

Some on here struggle with humour ..

The”careful what you wish for ” remark I made to Joe a few weeks back has been thrown back at me a few times ….

Joe

We shouldn’t have dropped points to Chelsea either.

Too bad. That match still bugs me

Joe

Some on here struggle with humour ..

You’re not funny Pierre. That’s the issue.

Guns of sf

What’s wrong with this website every time I try and post I have to re-do my credentials

London gunner

Karim you smoke weed and I care why?

London gunner

I really struggle to see us hit top 4. City and Liverpool are obvious bankers for top 3. Chelsea are massively underrated side, very well balanced, just have a shite striker but this is more than made up for by hazard whose playing peak level consistent football. The only chance we have is taking spurs spot, but they are a well drilled side, playing consistent football and don’t seem as reliant on Kane as they used to be. They aren’t spectacular imo but they have the quality to keep hitting enough wins and more importantly for them they have less… Read more »

karim

No, was just joking because you said it was for weak people and then made that strange remark about us losing today, so I was thinking maybe you’re high that’s all.

Nevermind

Joe

Pierre

You said “ careful what you wish for rings true” You couldn’t wait for Emery to fail.

You meant it and now have been trying to backpedal on it for weeks. No one is buying it pierre.

You’re a wanker and definitely not funny.

Bob N16

As ES said playing, Monday, Thurs, Sun (all away fixtures, let’s not forget) was harsh. Having such a mess of fb injuries screwed us up. Thank fu*k Lichtsteiner didn’t have to try and stop Zaha for 90 mins.

Laca was off his game today but he wasn’t alone. Torreira stood out….Holding was okay…nobody else was all that. All in all a draw was fine. Nothing too knee jerk needed.

Looking forward to seeing some youngster against Blackpool, hope AMN can play one of the fb positions.

Victorious

Joe Not being around because we’ve been racking up wins? Surely you cant be serious? Like it absolutely cant be because may i have a life? Surely the fact you spend all day,every day on here cant mean other folk are that jobless you twat I mean you’ve made a 180 from being a negative pillock to finding yourself at the end of the spectrum and pushing an idiotic # EKB brigade in the space of like 1 month. How daft can such a move be especially just a couple of games into into the season Surely you don expect… Read more »

Dissenter

Ramsey will take Everton to the next level, 7th/8th place.

Joe

Oh you’ve been busy have you victorious Funny how that coincides with us winning 11 in a row. And now you’re free to post as soon as we drop points. Funny that Yes I have done a 180. Because I knew we were going to fail before we even kicked a ball with the wanker in charge. And most of us knew that for a decade. Just because you supported wenger more that arsenal and now all of a sudden start criticizing Emery about being 4th best but hailed it as a miracle under wenger It’s fans like you that… Read more »

Un na naai

Steve

Noticed you haven’t been around during our winning streak you worm

Goonah

lol Carl fcking Jenkinson to the rescue vs Blackpool

anything to keep the first team fresh

Joe

Anyway

A bump in the road. A slight bump. A point away is a good result after 3 matches in a week

Let’s see a big response v Liverpool. Hopefully we can see how Emery plans to play v the big teams at home. Should be a little bit better prepared than we were beginning of the season

Still positive we will see a draw or an Arsenal win.

And I could give two fucks how we win. Beautiful. Ugly. Off Leno’s ass in the 97th minute. Don’t care

Receding Hairline

A draw away from home after a run of fixtures that has stretched our squad and all of a sudden the doomsday merchants are out on force. How exactly have spurs been better than us this season? I will need that explained to me. How many of you experts predicted we will be four points off the top by this stage? What’s that.. We have been lucky.. Lol..I think you might have to go and watch the Liverpool you are wanking over again.. Chelsea have played far better football than them this season. A draw against crystal palace is not… Read more »

Redtruth

The fanbase needs to be fumigated from the rodents who kept backing Wenger despite Arsenal being in the doldrums for ysars.

Bob N16

Red,
What a tough guy you are. Bet you puff your chest out as you type. Well hard!

vickingz

Dunno what to say about those stating that they’d have started with welbeck bla bla bla, didn’t welbeck get played in the second half? What’s his contribution? If I was gonna play welbeck, I would have played him as LB instead of zhaka and played zhaka and LT. Today, none of our attacking midfielders cared to withdraw a little to collect and move the ball forward and there was no zhaka to give those forward long balls. This was really obvious and if gendouzi really wants to play football, he needs to toughen up and stop being sissy

Joe

RedtruthOctober 28, 2018 18:59:14
The fanbase needs to be fumigated from the rodents who kept backing Wenger despite Arsenal being in the doldrums for ysars.

Red

That is probably your best post ever

Couldn’t agree more!

Cesc Appeal

There is a positive that Xhaka looks more confident than ever before and perhaps playing LB might give him a bit more of an appreciation of defensive awareness and positioning. Torreira really is good at getting us on the front foot and I think he’s a bit wasted if we just sit him really deep. The way forward I think is to dispense with any idea of a CAM in the midfield 3 and go for a more CM/CAM type of player in there and push the more flair creative type player to RM/LM with a pacey winger on the… Read more »

Un na naai

Joe

You flaming turd. How exactly do you fumigate the fan base?? You have no power. Stick to plucking cats from trees if it makes you feel big, nobody cares but that’s about your limit son. You’re fumigating nothing else.

I’ll say it again. Any fan who wants arsenal to lose for any reason whatsoever isn’t a fan at all but a self aggrandising wanker who’d rather be vindicated than have his side win.

Tosser

InsideRight

We’ve won ugly, now we’ve drawn ugly too. I thought we would take Palace apart today, but in the end I’m grateful for the point. The thing to watch now is how Emery picks the side up and moves them on from this. Today’s game will be another reminder for UE, Sven and Raul that our priority is fixing the defence. It is weak as a kitten and undermining the side as a whole. Yes, we need a creative mid, but without a solid back line we will always be suspect. Let’s see what the new managerial team do to… Read more »

Bob N16

Agree totally Unai,
Joe and Red need to get a room, I would suggest something below street level – swapping bitter comments whilst doing unmentionable things to each other. I’m imagining a modern day Beavis and Butthead..
No internet access obviously.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3vc6ie

Joe

Un

I didn’t make arsenal lose you wanker

Me knowing we were going to lose is different than me wanting us to lose

I never wanted us lose. I just knew we were because of wenger and just didn’t care.

Wanted wenger gone so him making us lose to expidite his departure was what it was.

Wenger made us lose. The fans didn’t

Any fan who wanted WENGER TO STAY to the detriment for any reason isn’t a fan at all but a self aggrandising wanker who’d rather be vindicated than have his side win.

Bamford10

Chelsea are better than us, but I don’t think Spurs are. Spurs have more balance and depth, but we have more firepower and more fire in the belly. We can finish fourth, but Emery does have a couple of issues to address.

Un na naai

But joe

I did want wenger gone dumb dumb. We needn’t have dropped to six for that to happen though did we?

Even the moderates such as myself were aware and honest enough to admit he had to go. He had to be pushed because he just wasn’t going to relinquish his post. I did not however SAVOUR every loss and humiliation under his charge.

This site was littered with wankers cheering at our own demise. Pathetic and petty

TonyD

CP deserved the draw and we were lucky to get a point. They were a yard quicker all over the park where it’s glaringly obvious we need pace on our wings with players who can go past defenders and draw CBs out to give more space in the central area for our attackers to be more effective. The January window imo will decide whether we get CL qualification because UE is having to play players out of position, which although has worked thus far, it can’t for the whole season. It’s clear we have the right manager in UE but… Read more »

Joe

Chelsea are better than us. Missing a striker.

Spurs are what they are because although not top quality they are playing great under a top manager. Think Emery will get us playing better than them soon

Think under Emery we are a better “team” than united.

Liverpool and city are better

Un na naai

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/talksport.com/football/438847/chelsea-cesc-fabregas-return-arsenal/amp/

Would you take him back? I would. I’d swap him with ozil in a heartbeat. Similar age but cesc offers so much more. I’d let ozil leave on a free if it meant cesc coming for free
Gladly

Redtruth

Two miatakes by the usual suspects.
These two are beyond coaching and need shipping out.

Joe

Un

Would have taken him back in a heartbeat when he first came back to the PL

Now I’m not so sure.

TonyD

Ok who’s going to start the Wenger PTSD support group?

Would make a great sit com.

I don’t need it because he’s gone and I’m completely over the no good,two bob, 24 carat cvnt. Lol

One last time guys: Wenger has left the building!

Focus on this: 11 wins and 1 draw.

Doesn’t that make you feel warm & fuzzy?

TonyD

Cesc is MLS or China fodder – not for us

Bob N16

Tony D, the support group sounds a promising idea. Interestingly, it’s not the few who still wanted him to stay who seem traumatised but those fans who made it so much a part of their lives to be modern day crusaders, who are now suffering a significant void.

Some have filled it by a full on, love-in for Emery, others still try and maintain the habit of continued criticism. The use of the AKB term is a clear sign.

Un na naai

TonyD

You think signing Lichtsteiner on a free is ok but that cesc can’t replicate what he’s done? He’s an arsenal legend and he won it all. Huge experience. Not to mention fantastic player. I’d take him over ozil in a millisecond

Pierre

Last season after ten games Arsenal were tied 4th….qualified for league cup and top of Europa group.

This season after ten games we are 4th ( Tottenham have game in hand so could go above Arsenal tomorrow)possibly 5th…….qualified for the league cup and top of Europa group.

Yes Emery is doing very well to replicate wenger’s worst ever season….

Of course we expect Emery to have a much better 2nd half of the season compared to last season and maybe he could even improve on our cup semi final and final defeats…

Pierre

I would take Cesc back …maybe Chelsea are stupid enough to do a swap with Ramsey.

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

It’s a long season

Will get the bounce in a few games … Just not today..

I agree Lacs looked tired. Get Eddie warmed up

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Getting cesc back would be going back two steps…

No thank you..

He had his chance an blew it…

R.S.P.C.Arsenal

Look

We’re getting better he needs to be. Bold with youngsters throw in

Radio Raheem

Finishing top 4 will be pretty special. A more realistic expectation would be 5th. ManU are underperforming but you won’t expect that to carry on all season. These players finished second last season. As for the spuds they’ve a more settled side further along with their manager. We could finish above one but unlikely both. Chelsea underperformed last season, albeit with an FA cup. So how they’re performing this season (especially after hiring a new manager) isn’t that much of a surprise. They’ve a strong squad. Not much to say about City and Liverpool. But those three occupy the top… Read more »

raptora

“Since the start of 2014/15, only Jamie Vardy (13) has won more penalties in the Premier League than Zaha (11 – level with Raheem Sterling).”

And he is getting better and better. Would be a great buy.

Jay

Radio raheem. Talking sense, absolutely agree.

Redtruth

First 10 games of last season:

Man City: 28;points
Man Utd: 23 points
Spurs: 20 points
Arsenal: 19 points
Chelsea: 19 points
Liverpool: 16 points

First 10 games of this season:

Liverpool: 26 points
Chelsea: 24 points
Man City: 23 points (9 games)
Arsenal: 22 points
Spurs: 21 poinrs (9 games)
Man Itd: 17 points

Last season’s standards were shit compared to this season
Arsenal have raised their game to another level.

Cesc Appeal

The game is at The Emirates on Wednesday as well which is good.

Lots of rotation before Liverpool, give Maitland Niles a game, Nketiah, Ramsey, Elneny, have to make a choice as to who we’re starting against Liverpool and then play one of Ozil or Mkhitaryan as well.

I would not put Lacazette on at all, he looked tired today and he simply cannot play that badly against Liverpool. Tired passed, tired touch, tired decision making which cost us 2 points.

Leedsgunner

Looking back with a degree of distance… albeit a few hours, we still came away with a point, especially with Xhaka at LB. Why didn’t we take control after we took the lead? Perhaps it’s to be expected but we looked leggy today. Mustafi looked uncomfortable and uncertain again. More than his physical skills, Mustafi is a really bad decision maker. Why did he go to ground in the way he did? When you do things like that, you often leave weak willed referees without any choices. Ughh! Considering that he is supposed to be the established pro between our… Read more »

Redtruth

Blunder merchants Xhaka and Mustafi cost Arsenal £70m and 3 points today.

Marko

Yes Emery is doing very well to replicate wenger’s worst ever season….

Not very hard for a good manager to replicate a bad one

Redtruth

First 10 games of 2001-2 season:

Arsenal: 19 points

First 10 games of Invincible season:

Arsenal: 24 points

gonsterous

12 hours later and I’m still not angry just disappointed. Gutted we couldn’t extend our lead but also happy that I’ve finally got this feeling and emotion to want to back the club through thick and thin. If this had happened last season I wouldn’t have given a toss, it would have been same old, same old. Let’s hope we can bounce back against black pool

gonsterous

read somewhere that conte is taking over the RM job. Didn’t know the old boss was fired. They did get whacked 5-1 yesterday.

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