GEORDIE CUP FINAL

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Welcome to Saturday; let’s talk about some things.

I do find it quite incredible that there is a certain section of the fanbase that think refereeing decisions aren’t of interest and shouldn’t be part of the conversation.

The referee that sent off Rob Holding for a shoulder barge, let Harry Kane get away with this.

Does that challenge look like Harry Kane playing the dark-arts with ninja like subtlety? I don’t think so.

Simple fact with referees this season is that shocking decisions go against us more often than they do other teams. Some call it a conspiracy theory chatter, I’d say just look at how we’ve been treated, look at the mad decisions that have gone against us, and tell me how 1 soft penalty against United makes it better?

The reffing has been so bad for us this season we’ve actually had moments when the refs have invented new ways to fuck us… remember Martinelli getting two yellows in the same passage of play? How about Tomi getting his face stamped on with no action? How about Palace booting Saka in the air? How about the Xhaka sending off? The list goes on. We are treated differently.

If Rob Holding is sent off for standing his ground on 26 minutes, then Son should be sent off for throwing an elbow. The main difference seems to be that Bob Holding doesn’t scream like he’s been hit with a wet towel in the snow.

Paul Tierney had to really want to ruin that game to do what he did and the only people who think differently on that seem to have a history of wanting to see this Arsenal team fail this season. Embarrassing.

Ok, I’m done moaning.

Let’s take a moment to accept where we are right now: IN CONTROL OF TOP 4.

My view is that if we beat Newcastle, Champions League is ours.

The Geordies are THE banana skin game.

Eddie Howe will ask questions of us.

We have to treat this like our Cup Final.

They are no mugs in 2022. Below is the half-season table. It looks pretty close to what we did last season.

The positives we can take from this is their 3 tough games against Liverpool, Spurs and City have seen them beaten. They conceded 10 between Spurs and City alone.

The negative is this is their last home game of the season, it’ll be under the floodlights, their players will want to sign off in style, they have nothing to play for, so they’ll fly into us to put on a show.

The hope is that the news from the medical team is positive. Our players have been quite good at tapping themselves out early this season. Ben White sat on the bench at Spurs which was smart. Gabriel is quite robust, hopefully he took himself off the same way Bukayo did in the game prior. Having actual centre backs feels like an important part of the day… The thought of Tomiyasu and Big Mo in the middle with Lord Of Chaos starting fires on the left makes feel a little queezy I have to say.

The other worry I have is around fatigue. Saka looked blitzed the other night. A few of our players looked tired. 10 men for 65 minutes isn’t ideal. If we go to Newcastle tired, they’ll use their freshness to rattle into us. All the great managers say tiredness is part of the job, our young men need to find their inner Red Bull, crack it open, and let the wings carry them through the 90.

Ok, I apologise for that last line. Not my best.

If we play with the mindset we started the Spurs game with; we’ll be in good shape come the end of the 90. The absolute key is to not let the moment get to us, like it did Rob Holding. We need to control our emotions and manage the moments. Make it to half time without conceding and we’ll be in a solid spot to take the game from there. Arsenal away fans will be huge, I just hope they are prepared to suffer for a chunk of the game.

My pragmatic view of Top 4 is that if we can’t be Newcastle, we just weren’t ready to take the club to the Champions League this season.

If that happens, there will be recriminations with weirdo fans that have been gagging for a bit of bad news, but the reality is, we are at the start of this project and we know VERY clearly what we have to do to get better.

I thought this comment from Pep was really good as some preparation if things don’t go well.

‘Character’ and ‘bottle job’ comments at these players cannot be sitting in people’s drafts. The Premier League is the highest standard of football on the planet. What this squad of players has done this season has been exceptional. We can still finish with 72 points, with an average age of 23 years old. That is a marvel. If we make Champions League, it is a huge overachievement, if we don’t make it, it’s just a learning XP moment for a young squad of players with an outrageously high ceiling.

Being in control at this moment shows character, delivering on Monday merely demonstrates we got it right on the day, no broad-brush slander is going to land however things go.

I’m feeling bullish about the game. If we can put out a well-balanced side and the team can channel their grievances in a productive manner, we’ll exit with a win.

If we exit with a win, then we have to beat an Everton that will be safe, and properly on the beach.

Let’s see what the boys have got. We’ll be doing a BEFORE THE WHISTLE tomorrow after the Spurs win against Burnley. So be sure to tune in… but before, check out the Spurs post-game analysis.

Give us a 5* rating as well. x

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TR7

Handball rules should be changed. If a handball in the box is not coming in the way of a clear goalscoring opportunity, it shouldn’t be penalized irrespective of whether the hand is ii in a natural position. The penalty Spurs got was fair as per current rules but honestly there was no real goal threat when the ball hit the hand of a Burnley player.

Pierre

Vera
“btw, in regards to your earlier comment, “Wenger bought Xhaka as an enforcer and he breathed on a couple of opposition players a couple of times and saw red , he hardly makes a tackle now”, you don’t know of which you speak, as Wenger specifically told Xhaka to stop tackling, not because of the “bias” officiating, but because he was so incredibly poor at it”

A bit if both i would say in regard to Xhaka’s tackling.

Pierre

TR7
“. The penalty Spurs got was fair as per current rules but honestly there was no real goal threat when the ball hit the hand of a Burnley player.”

What i would question about it is when the ref went to the screen , Attwell(VAR) neglected to show the push by the tottenham player which was partly why barnes had his hand in the air.

The outcome may have been different if Attwell hadn’t been so selective in what he showed the ref

The Real Vieira Lynn

Pierre not that I owe you any kind of an explanation, especially after your rather childlike response, but my namesake was created to both pay homage to one of our greatest legends, whom we’ve never even attempted to properly replace, and to acknowledge the famous British singer/entertainer, who Pink Floyd referenced on the Wall with a very apropos phrase, “what has become of you”, considering the state of the franchise since the ribbon was cut outside the Emirates…on a side note, the “e” on the end was a tribute to my Mother-in-law, who passed away just prior to my first… Read more »

The Real Vieira Lynn

Vera Lynn was the singer in question…Cheers

TR7

Pierre

The handball should not have been even referred to VAR for review. Referees should start using common sense than blindly follow crap rules. It’s abominable that referees decisions have such a huge bearing on overall points tally of teams and their corresponding league positions. Spurs the luckiest team along with United and Arsenal and some of the teams at the bottom as usual victims of poor decisions.

Mr Serge

Vieira interesting how you came up with your name

Pierre

Vera
“not that I owe you any kind of an explanation, especially after your rather childlike response, but my namesake was created to both pay homage to one of our greatest legends”

I would never have guessed..

I actually think you have been quite creative but you are correct , i didn’t need an explanation..

The Real Vieira Lynn

Pierre

Wenger added: “He is naturally not a great tackler. It is more the way he tackles that is not convincing.

“I would encourage him not to tackle, to stay on his feet.”

not so much a “bit of both” according to our former manager

Mr Serge

Pierre lol stop it

Rich

Saliba named Ligue 1 young player of the season.

Successful loan, picked up more minutes than any other player aged 21 and under, in Europe’s top 5 league’s this season.

Imperative we bring him back, and tie him down.

Ishola70

Fans have always screamed for penalties for almost any reason since time began. So if you keep screaming for penalties for everything or anything don’t be surprised at the overal climate in regards penalties being given. What is markedly different now compared to the past is that the players themselves on the pitch keep screaming for penalties for almost anything and who can blame them for that either. They are looking to gain advantage to what they see as the rulings now. The rulings that are so generous now in awarding penalties. The climate has been set now. Got to… Read more »

Danny S

My worry is, weather we get champs league football or not, Arteta doesn’t seem to improve enough each season to make me confident we can sustain another top 4 push. Man U will be significantly better next season. Spurs will have had Conte for a year and he will kick on more next season. Chelsea will be top 4 candidates as per. City and Pool will still be beyond any of us. This ‘process’ is a very slow burner, Arteta is slow to change and all the while other teams are doing what they can to win. This season, with… Read more »

London gunner

Saliba could end up being a vvd level defender we need to give him the red carpet treatment next season bring the prodigal son home.

Samesong

https://youtu.be/hZj7xcehvOU

Who remembers this?

Mr Serge

Saliba will come back he will play and won’t be dropped the kid is next level he will shift Gabriel or white out

They will sign him up he is an arsenal fan

UTarse

If we end up 5th, let’s not kid ourselves with this agenda driven, “would we have been happy with that at the start of the season”…. The fact of the matter is that we were and still are in the driving seat and could have been out of sight of the spuds had it not been for 3-4 really poor recent performances and results. It’s ours to blow up, let’s see if arteta has this generational talent to insure we don’t.

Mr Serge

U tarse I would have been happy with 5th at the beggining of the season. now we have been 4th for ages I would take it as a complete failure if spurs pip us to the post.

The Real Vieira Lynn

anyone who thinks that our present manager will bring back Saliba as a direct replacement for White, whom he paid over the number for, should consult their respective physician, as it’s clear their meds need some considerable tweaking…to be frank, it wouldn’t surprise me one iota if he never wore our kit again, especially considering the amateur hour mismanagement by our administrative/managerial team…of course, I hope that I’m wrong about this assessment, but I very much doubt that will be the case

Mr Serge

Agreed we should have been far and away from them as well

Mr Serge

Dame Vera you only have to look at how martinelli was treated and hardly got a sniff and now plays all the time to know that if saliba plays and smashes it out of the park he will play.
White or Gabriel will make wake way
What you are saying is wrong

UTarse

Mr Serge, It would be a feeling we have been re-living for so many years all over again. Only one I worry about is the Newcastle game because I just know the law of averages is bound to bite us with this one…

Habesha Gooner

Saliba is a good defender. And I am sure if he gets his chance he can make a good contribution. But you can’t throw around Van Djik’s name around. He is one of the few players that I am jealous of our rivals for having them. And there aren’t defenders in that list. He literally has no weaknesses. If Saliba could be as good as half the things VVD is good at then we have a good defender.

Mr Serge

Habesha agreed VVD is a cut above anything in the world he is just ridiculous

Mr Serge

Wtf is Robert drinking lol we are ALL Arsenal fans
If tets fails he goes he is not currently failing though is he ?

The Real Vieira Lynn

completely different set of circumstances, as Marts showed some flashes early on, was never loaned out and any potential issues between himself and the manager were kept “under wraps”, for the most part…when he tweeted about his “good health” and pushed to play with Brazil at the Olympics, our usually loose-lipped manager didn’t speak publicly about those matters, even though Mart’s health comment contradicted the manager’s statement about the reasoning behind his lack of playing time, which was a clear indication that MA was concerned about ruffling the wrong feathers…as for his glaring lack of playing time, there was a… Read more »

Mr Serge

Ok glad you cleared that up I don’t agree with you at all but you do you

Killroy-TM

“The problem is that none of the tin foil squad here is defending Arsenal. They are defending Arteta… So it’s just Arteta goons trying to bully everyone else into some kind of submission.” Post of the day and thread As far as the Saliba comments here, they have been going on for awhile now and again by the Arteta Fan Boys (AFBs) they insist he has to earn his place in the squad and he is an Arsenal fan (a last grasp hope). All the negotiation power is with Saliba and his agents, yes he is an Arsenal player, but… Read more »

Guernsey+gun

The final day is so staged now, its fucking embarrassing. Get hulk Hogan calling the shots. All you need to know is we are nailed on 5th.

Why I Gunna

That penalty against Burnley! Mind boggling. Conte has certainly brought his winnings ways from Italy.

Vintage Gun

The scene IS set for us to finish 5th.

But as we are in control of of the pen, we can write our own script.

Starting from tomorrow.

Mr Serge

Killroy you don’t half chat some bollocks boy

Ffs even to the point you are abrieviating what you call some posters

I really hope we get 4th as we won’t hear from you if we do fucking weirdo

LeMassiveCoq

@ Why I …

Brought his winning ways… or bought his winning ways?
Worst penalty decision I have EVER witnessed.
Ball came off the shin, going nowhere near the goal. Barnes was pulled about and his arm was outstretched before Sanchez shinned it.
The ref is fucking bent.
Anyway, we’ll beat the Georgia’s tomorrow and the Toffees so don’t worry. If we stick 3 or 4 past them both they can’t cheat Spurs into the CL as they desperately seem to be trying to.

Up the Arsenal!

Nigel Tufnel

Our recent result was a loss. That is when the ghoul Kilroy always shows up. Never in Arsenal successful stretches.

Dissenter

Everton are in shambles, but never mind
We have to get past Newcastle first.

China1

Danny j don’t think it’s realistic that all the big 6 have a good season next year. It’s never happened before Last year an almost identically liverpool squad barely got too 4 due to injuries and circumstances. That could be them again next year if they have enough bad luck with injuries Man U will get better? Probably because they can’t be worse. But no guarantees. They came second last season and added varane and Sancho. Now they’re much worse. Spurs might not be better next season. Especially if they don’t come 4th he might get tired of seeing bigger… Read more »

Tony

“What about nuances ffs?” Excuses, Bob! Nuances and grey areas you like so much allow you to enable Arteta through excuses. Same when you do your backing of Pedro when others complain after Pedro’s been on one of his almost daily trolling runs targeting anyone with what he deems is negativity against Arteta. Arteta is the architect of his own wrong doings too many to rehash here this morning. You only have to look at the Spurs game to see that Arteta never learns and what we have seen this season of his rollercoaster football is who Arteta really is:… Read more »

izzo

Saliba winning young player of the year. We’re definitely not selling him. Mikel won’t be getting his way on this matter. He will be integrated into the starting 11 team. With Gabby and White fumbling around in defense he should displace either with ease a few games into the season. I’d be a little surprised if he didn’t. He has it all physically and to some degree mentally so there’s excitement there for me.

China1

How many times did we get told that Saliba couldn’t be trusted to compete in the squad because he’s too young and CBs can’t make it at this age? Those comments aged very very poorly. But then they were always just an excuse to explain away the decision to not let Saliba have a chance. It doesn’t matter if 1000000 CBs aren’t ready at his age. He isn’t them. He is himself. If he’s ready then he’s ready. Messi was world class as a teenager. Cesc was ready at 17. Saliba is ready at his age. Putting him on a… Read more »

Dissenter

Saliba was ready to be in the squad in 2020 He was ready to be in the squad in 2021 He certainly is ready to be in the squad in 2022 The problem is that he’s coming into a squad with two 23 year old CBs, one of which cost £50 million because the power-that-be didn’t see what what clearly obvious; that we had a gem in our hands The same manager has not even bothered to exchange a text or simple phone call with the lad. There’s a lot of lingering resentment with this lad because we almost ruined… Read more »

The Real Vieira Lynn

Agreed Dis….I want to remain hopeful about Saliba returning to the fold, unfortunately, if MA’s past behaviour is any indication of his future behaviour, I just can’t see it happening, especially considering the amount of baggage involved…I can only hope that some of the higher-ups will apply some pressure on MA, which will require him to have a bit of a rethink about this particular player

Killroy-TM

Why is it Mr. Serge & Nigel TufNuts when I post a comment all you two can do is childish name calling and abusive speech. Sorry I forgot Robert Pires @ 22:27:25 put it so eloquent you two are part of the Arteta goon squad trying to bully everyone else into some kind of submission. Get a hold of yourselves or seek out medical advise to up your meds. Whether Saliba will ever play for us depends really on him, is he pissed off enough at Tets to not want to play for him, are his agents plotting out a… Read more »

China1

The main problem around the saliba is just the feeling of negativity Had proactively said to the guy 18 months ago we want you to get a bunch of first team experience first then we’re excited to bring you back and fight for a place here, then regularly check in on him during the two loans and offer him encouragement and praise, guidance etc. the feeling would be entirely positive Instead he was made to feel unvalued and even whilst he’s smashed his second loan in 2 years, the club didn’t talk with him. How positive will he feel about… Read more »

China1

2 years ago* not 18 months ago

Typo

China1

With saliba I think it partly rides on us making the CL If we get over the finish line in 4th we go into the summer with a huge boost. The feeling around the club will be incredibly positive. More money for signings, CL football to look forward to etc. a clear and big step forwards If we come 5th you wonder if it’s going to feel more status quo for arsenal in the second tier of Europe and having bottled the end of the season That’s why I think top 4 is so important now. To lose it from… Read more »

Killroy-TM

China Totally agree with your assessment and I have many times said we need CL football because it is an added attraction to draw talent, because we are big as a club with lots of history, that these young ones don’t know about and since we have done nothing to speak about in the last 10 years that would draw headlines in Europe, (maybe the drubbing by Bayern) why would young talent choose Arsenal? CL football will help. Arsenal’s present club hierarchy and their interest in Saliba can only be said is woeful. How did Saliba feel when his loan… Read more »

Killroy-TM

Here we are less than 17 hours before we know if it is still in our hands or if we need a miracle from Norwich to beat the Sp*ds in order to have CL games next season. On the other hand there is always the chance we finish our season the way we started it. Even worst if we draw today and win the last game we will be on 70 points and we will never hear the end of how the Sp*ds pipped us to 4th place. It is excruciating to be an Arsenal fan at this time, someone… Read more »

China1

One thing we can say is as frustrating as it will really be if we come 5th, at least we have made a very good go of it. It’s been a much better season than last year. As well one of the reasons why we’re so on edge about this games lately is because we’re not used to playing matches which matter. I remember those nerves before a big CL game, or before playing Utd or Chelsea etc. haven’t felt nerves for a good decade because honestly there was nothing worth being nervous about. But this is what competition is… Read more »

Gonsterous

Will city bottle the league? I think not. They will win the next game and lift the title.

Will arsenal bottle 4th? Depends on the Newcastle game. We win that and we have the momentum to win against everton. Spurs will win against Norwich so its all on us.

China1

As much as I don’t want liverpool to win the quintuple, I’d rather they won the league than city and I’d always normally rather an English team win the CL than a foreign team

CL final I think is 50/50. Pool are better but it’s Real Madrid and it’s the CL so anything can happen

In the league I assume city will win but how glorious would it be to see them fail and win nothing considering how financially doped they are. The bottle job jibes would be next level

China1

My exceptions for wanting an English team to win the CL are Chelsea and Spurs tho

Chelsea because they’re classless chavs and Spurs because they’re mouth breathing bottom feeders

China1

Actually I’d have wanted city to lose the Cl final. And utd

I have no issue with liverpool tho.

Bob N16

Tony, you’re appear to be using me for target practice. I haven’t ‘backed Pedro’ for many months. This idea that I’m making ‘excuses for Arteta’- seems to be the form of attack at the moment. Like many on here who seem to get so involved in the sectarianism, you have your position and try to squeeze virtually any situation into a black and white, binary world. For example, I merely agree with the idea that the PGMOL is seriously flawed and you intimate that I am defending Arteta by making excuses. I felt that it was a penalty on Thursday… Read more »

Nelson

If both White and Gabriel are out, I’ll play the following lineup

………………….Ramsdale
Cedric, Tomiyasu, Xhaka, Tavares
……………………….Elneny
Ødegaard, …………………….Smith Rowe
Saka, …………….Eddie,……………… Martinelli

I still think that we didn’t sign anyone in the Jan. TW was a very bad move. It is like buying insurance.

Markymark

Robert Pires – most people in this site know that Arteta has faults and will overcome some and fail with others. He won’t get 7-8 years like Wengo to fail to sort them though, let’s all be clear about that. The posters who are being singled out are super whiny types who if you were crazy you’d invite to your birthday only to find they’d dumped on your birthday cake whilst blaming you for the disaster. Generally attacking an Arteta / Arsenal fancentric site is just odd and out of kilter. Most of the attacks are happening prior to actual… Read more »

Positive pete

Not one of the non Arsenal pundits have given us a chance of a win tonight.All gagging for Arsenal to drop points O Hara,Shearer,Sutton,Owen,lawrenson,Neville,the whole poxy lot of em.Boy oh boy I’d love it,absolutely love it to win tonight & have em choke on their bile.

Samesong

Positive pete

Who cares what they think? Ex Spurs, Ex Newcastle, Ex Blackburn and Liverpool mostly northerners.

Samesong

Oh and United scum in there too.

DivineSherlock

Its the last away game of the season , one mostrous performance is all we need . Lets go boys !

Mr Serge

bob16 i also get treated like that as well called an Arteta fan not an Arsenal fan too many trolls on here i am just going to ignore them from now on

Habesha Gooner

I am very nervous about tonight. No defenders is going to be tough. We are going to struggle defensively. But our attack needs to do the job. I have a feeling we may need to start ESR. And Eddie needs to show the hunger and quality he has shown over the past few games.

The Bard

Bobn16 Posters get stuck in binary position. Its the preferred way of communicating these days. Its black or white and nothing in-between.

Mr Serge

Habesha GoonerMay 16, 2022 09:57:33
I am very nervous about tonight. No defenders is going to be tough. We are going to struggle defensively. But our attack needs to do the job. I have a feeling we may need to start ESR. And Eddie needs to show the hunger and quality he has shown over the past few games.

same these last 2 weeks have been stressfull

Habesha Gooner

Mr Serge
Predictions? I think we will win just about. It will be tight though.

Terraloon

The Bard

Bobn16 Posters get stuck in binary position. Its the preferred way of communicating these days. Its black or white and nothing in-between.

Add to it they can never accept that there is another point of view

Pierre

Markymark “most people in this site know that Arteta has faults and will overcome some and fail with others. He won’t get 7-8 years like Wengo to fail to sort them though, let’s all be clear about that.” The difference is , what was regarded as failure by wenger during that so called decade of failure , will now be regarded as success by Arteta. Can Arteta keep Arsenal in the top 4 year on year whilst competing in the champions league and winning domestic trophies as wenger did.. If Arteta does manage to emulate Wenger’s supposed years of failure… Read more »

Samesong

Can we just get past Newcastle first. Think we will win tonight.

Markymark

Pierre – Wenger did it largely without City Oil money and Chelsea Russian blood money. As soon as Chelsea money filtered through we dropped . As soon as City Money came in . We were stuffed.
Arteta is fighting in this world of 6 powers (including UTD) not the previous duopoly that Wenger had his successful period in.
Wengers last great opportunity when Leicester won the title and Chelsea / City / UTD we’re going through change. Wenger blew it

Mr Serge

Habesha GoonerMay 16, 2022 10:54:31
Mr Serge
Predictions? I think we will win just about. It will be tight though.

2 nil to us tonight I think they will be on the beach well I hope anyway

NORG

Markymark

AFC still have one of the richest owners in the Premier League. Now that Chelsea is in the process of changing hands only City and Newcastle have owners with bottomless pockets. The Liverpool owner is relatively poor compared with Stan but Fenway have a more ‘hands on’ approach and are hungry for continued success. They made sure they employed one of the very best.
Will Newcastle follow the City route? They employed the manager that Wenger recommended to be his successor.

Vintage Gun

Please get the job done tonight.

My nervous systems shot already

Samesong

I think they will be on the beach well I hope anyway

No don’t think they will. They will want to show their fans that they can beat us especially as we have a few walking wounded players. We should go there with an absolutely ruthless attitude tonight.

Rich

We look shaky at the back, we haven’t had a clean sheet since Tierney got injured, 8 games, conceding 14 Expecting a really tough game tonight, we need to get through the first 30 minutes, try and silence the crowd. Yesterday the atmosphere in the first 20 minutes in the Spurs was lively, Spurs were dominating, Burnley rode out the initial storm, settled into the game, and were then the better team, which silenced the crowd until the penalty. We have to manage the game, the way we’re defending, and with the amount of absentees, think we’ll need more than… Read more »

Jonko

I hope St Manximan starts. That’d be 10 vs 11 straight away. Absolutely brain dead that guy. Most unintelligent footballer matched closely only by Sterling.

Mysticleaves

Lol. Sterling is brain dead? Hot takes on here

Bob N16

Jonko, do you think Pepe should get a look in? Obviously just talking about footballing IQ! Walcott deserves an honorary mention too.

Can’t see us keeping a cleanshet, probably need to score three and keep the Saudi bar codes to two! Need Saka back on form.

Mysticleaves

Always wanted to correct this so here goes….players that are 30, 31, 32 are on the right side of 30. “The wrong side of 30” (as is used to describe players in their early 30s) is from 35 to 39 years old.

Thanks 😊

EdTheRed

ESR has to start tonight. We have to play our best goalscorer this season. We simply have to

Jonko

At least Pepe and Walcott look up from time to time to find a teammate. I won’t be surprised if one day we see St Maximan huffing and puffing and then scoring in his own net…and celebrating too (with his head still down).

China1

Oh we are absolutely not bagging on Newcastle players before the game

Every time we do this said player scores and fucks us

I’m not taking any part in that today

China1

Walcott was jokes man. He scored a lot tho tbf

But his gorm moments were hilarious in hindsight. Who can forget him being set free against city and he jumped over the ball and ran away 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Spanishdave

We have blown our chance to get 4th.
We had games in hand over spurs and have lost four of our last seven games.
Arteta hasn’t a clue how to set up our defence.
Our squad has too many average players and we fail to show up when it matters.

China1

Apparently bellerin cried after his last betis game and the players all want him to stay with them

Please put 8+ m on the table and have him. Fine with me I forgot he even played for us

Rich

Think we’d just be happy to get Bellerin’s wages off the books.

Any offer above £5mill, and we’d likely take it.

If he’s still here at the end of August, we risk paying him until June, and he’ll leave for free anyway.

We’ve got a few players in this situation, Fiorentina trying to lowball us on the €15 million option on Torreira, after they’ve just got a giant fee for Vlahovic thanks In part to us

Rambinho

I tell you what Dave why don’t you give it a fucking rest for today?

James

I’m really nervous about this evenings game. There’s a lot of pressure and we have a lot of 1st teamers out injured, does not feel ideal to me at all!!!

Win tonight and I think we’ll beat Everton.

Draw or lose and it’s a very deflating end to a season which promised so much.

Overall I’m a really proud gooner and impressed at what’s been achieved with a small squad of young talented players and no recognised striker

COYG

Mysticleaves

Absolutely no need for Bellerin right now as Cedric is doing a good job as cover. We might as well give him to Betis on a free. We are masters in that already

Samesong

Arteta (if 5th place still constitutes progress even if Arsenal miss on top 4) “No, we want to be playing in the Champions League. We’ve come so far, it’s in our hands and we want to now capitalise on that, and the excitement and the opportunities there.

Danny

Hara,Shearer,Sutton,Owen,lawrenson,Neville,the whole poxy lot of em.
—————
This has actually made me optimistic, just like back in ’89.
Newcastle players don’t give a shit, they’ve nothing to play for and they’re crap anyway.

Mysticleaves

Same song

I call bullshit. The owners were thick enough to give him a new contract knowing fully well 4th wasn’t secured. That gives a good indication of what they think progress is and that’s what matters most. Arteta himself accepted the offer when he was sure 5th was in the bag but top 4 wasn’t. That’s what gives a good indicator of what constitutes success/progress for Arteta this season too.

Greg

Arteta needs to lean in on the spite angle. Win tonight to silence all the arseholes with opinions, to right all the injustices forced upon us, to shut up Conte and banish him to whining about the Europa League and being too poor to afford the players he wants, to ensure Harry Kane never wins anything. Simple message then: how great will it feel to finish 4th? how disappointing will it feel to lose out to Spurs?

China1

I’m kinda glad (in a sad way) that the game is too late for me tonight. I’m nervous as hell. I just want a result, don’t care one bit how we get it

Vintage Gun

I’d take £7m with a few easy addons for Bellerin. Betis suits him and his work is done here.

Nigel Tufnel

China I have the same feeling overall lately. This season somehow seems much more important to me than any in a long time, like 10 years you said. I think it’s because I really see a team that can grow into something. Never felt that during the latter Wenger years. We were just holding on, even though I liked our players. I never saw a plan or anything hopeful in the team after Wenger either until now. That bloated mediocre squad never had any future, even if they could pull FA cups or Europa. Now I care more because of… Read more »

Foxy

how is 5th place progress? for Arteta maybe but not ARSENAL

Foxy

Could you image the response if Arteta said in his job interview “I will get you 8th in my first full season but don’t worry it will be 5th in year 3 just trust the process”.

Terraloon

Jonko I hope St Manximan starts. That’d be 10 vs 11 straight away. Absolutely brain dead that guy. Most unintelligent footballer matched closely only by Sterling. Sometimes you really do wonder . St Maximan causes significant problems going forward because he has so much pace. He chips in with circa the same umber of goals as Martinelli. Really dangerous territory to go into the game dismissing any of their players. This season Newcastle despite being dog sh** up till Howe was appointed have only lost 3 more games than Arsenal and over the last 15 games they have delivered just… Read more »

Dissenter

“I hope St Manximan starts. That’d be 10 vs 11 straight away. Absolutely brain dead that guy. Most unintelligent footballer matched closely only by Sterling.”

Brain dead comment of the day
Hoping the Newcastle crowd favorite starts against our defense that will be ramshackled today is brain dead

The same people who write such things will be happy to shout referee bias when Tavares commits a penalty-foul on one the best dribblers in the league.

andy1886

Mystic, not sure what leaves you’re smoking but Cedric hasn’t done a good job as cover at all, he’s been as bad as Tavares, absolute liability IMO. On the ‘get rid’ list for me.

Tom

There was an interesting exchange in the NBC studio during the NLD between the host, Rebecca Lowe, and the two Robbies, when she asked them who needed the CL more, Arsenal or Tottenham. Robbie Mustoe said Tottenham needed it more and he made a solid and elaborate case to back up his point too. He mentioned Conte and the possibility he might leave if they fail to make it. He mentioned Kane and Son being in their prime and needing the CL exposure. Then he mentioned the new stadium and financial implications and so on. But Robbie Earle disagreed and… Read more »