SCUMBAG LEAKER SHINES LIGHT ON PERILS OF SOCIAL MEDIA

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Well, I was going to write a blog yesterday, but the news cycle was so grim I had to pass.

There was an incident. I don’t want to go to deep on it. But we need to talk about it.

Kids do stupid things. I could barely dress myself at 16. Thank the lord there was no Twitter during those formative years when I was trying to discover who the fuck I was. Even as a blogger in my twenties, some of my old work was unbelievably crass and embarrassing. We cannot hold kids to ridiculous standards, they are learning life in public, they will make mistakes. Sometimes HUGE mistakes. The more famous they are, the harder those mistakes land because we thread them through the needle of how we behave as grown adults. That’s not fair.

The most grim part about the whole thing is someone close to him leaked that video, not because it was in the public interest (it wasn’t), but to destroy the human in question. Once things like that leak, that’s it, it’s there forever… on every level, that sort of behaviour is grotesque. It’s cockroach behaviour. Pure scum. The intent is destruction, it should be treated like a subcategory of revenge porn. It’s digital assault, designed to inflict pain. I hate it.

What made the whole thing worse for me was reading all the homophobic commentary that followed it. Like, honestly, do we really need that nonsense in 2021? Are we not at the stage in society where it should be really fucking shameful to have a scummy opinion about LGBTQ? It’s so dated now, the comments ‘nearly’ make me feel sorry for the perpetrators. Like when everyone laughs at their weird uncle who says he doesn’t like foreign food and found that Sainsbury’s Christmas ad problematic. How can people be so pathetic? How can their lives be so fucking empty that they need to be mean like that?

The player in question does need to take some responsibility. The video wasn’t standard dressing room ‘banter’ and it certainly was not a case of ‘that’s just kids these days.’ It was VERY strange. The dressing room, however you cut it, is the workplace (lol, so HR here). BUT, let’s be honest, it was no weirder than the stuff that goes on at rugby parties at University… come on… you’ve seen weirder… Tarquin and Johannes showing off in the kitchen with an old sock and a pint of Tetley’s. Jokes aside, it was dumb to have his phone out in a dressing room. It was dumb to record the scene. It was dumb to post it to Snapchat when you’re on the verge of fame. But it happened, we need to move on.

The player needs to go into PR Airplane Mode.

The video was bad, but all that showed was poor judgement and shit friends. The bigger concern is that he’s whining in the French media for the 3rd time in a month about being given marching orders after 2.5 games. He seems to think the coaching staff missed all his training sessions and the loan games Arteta will have studied (because he’s a massive football nerd). We get it, it’s embarrassing to be sent home, everyone wants to play… but the truth is the best way to get back at the coaching staff is to keep your head down and let the fancy footwork, well-timed defensive actions, and line-breaking passes do the talking.

We all want him to thrive. Every single one of us wants him in the starting 11. He’s built for the league and exciting football. If he wants to achieve that, he’s going to have to prove himself like everyone else at Arsenal bar Willian.

Young players land minutes. ESR, Saka, MO, and Martinelli all speak to that. His career at Arsenal will be about what he does on and off the pitch, time to switch off the phone, reject the calls from the French media, and focus on becoming an Arsenal great.

Talking of great… Thomas Partey is going to be available at the weekend. That is HUGE news for the run-in. If we channel the first-half performance from Wolves, with the second from Villa, I can assure you, things will pick up. There will be a blow-out. We will start finding some of the sauce we need. Things will get better.

I am FASCINATED to see what the deal is for the Leeds game.

There are two big priorities for me.

How do we re-engage Auba?

He’s our superstar. Our captain. The biggest smile on the pitch. He’s having a very rough time at the moment, he’s had a poor season by his own standards, but we need to get him firing. Our biggest issue now is we can’t finish even though we’re creating chances. We need to have our best striker burying them. Does he play on the left where arguably we have more aggressive players? Or do we play him through the middle, where Lacazette has really owned that false nine position? BIG DECISIONS.

How do we have Odegaard on the pitch?

He’s quality, we can see that. He has that final ball that we’re missing. Where does he play? On the right in place of Pepe who has improved? In that #10 role after a quiet game from ESR? Or next to Partey where he can pull strings and offer mobility Xhaka doesn’t have? BIG DECISIONS.

What do we do about Tierney?

I think we need to bite the bullet and accept that Saka needs to deputise. There was a spell where his overlapping runs were really causing problems at the weekend. He can drop back and give us double the firepower. That’d be one scary team on the break. Remember, left-back is like, the new #10 position for coolness.

Arteta needs to end this year with an Arsenal on fire in a positive sense. If the fans are drooling over an exciting brand of football delivered by a youthful side of hungry terriers… he’ll be in good shape. If the football is shite, he’s in trouble. The next 4 weeks will determine how the fans will treat him next season. Fingers crossed he shows his very best, the fans certainly need it!

Ok, I am tired now… so you should just have it out in the comments. SEE YOU THERE. x

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shaun

I think it would make sense to play Ceballos next to Party and Odeguard as the 10 in place of ESR as ESR looks a little tired and he can be more effective for the last thirty from the bench .I would start Auba as the CF as both Ceballos and Odeguarde look to have the passing range Auba can feed off

China1

Olis – when ozil and auba played together he provided fuck all assists. Auba scored in spite of him rather than because of him And the evidence is that auba carried on scoring for fun even without Özil in the team You’re clutching at straws reimagining the past to think that all those auba goals had incredible Özil through balls onto onrushing wingers before the trademark cut back. Loads of those kinds of goals had previously assists from other players like xhaka, wingers and full backs, as well as laca. This notion that he was pulling all the strings and… Read more »

Pierre

No one should be tired as we have just had a week off.

Play the best team available

Pierre

China
No goals from open play in 13 hours tells it’s own story.

Anonymous Commentator

For our cb’s I would rather we sell chambers, of the two English lads at the back he’s the more injury prone of the two.
It’s a shame cause I rate chambers as a CB, if he were able to start fit for a run he would probably get a new contract though so best to ship him on before that happens.

After that why not think big and make a move for Milan skriniar?
Oh to dream.

China1

It’s honestly one of the great PR myths of footballing history how ozil has managed to maintain a reputation for actually contributing anything of note over the last few years in the face of all serious scrutiny It’s an emotional construction from fans who liked the good that he occasionally did so much that they would literally close their eyes and put their hands in their ears willingly for 80% of his matches and pretend they never happened, and just remember the 20 odd percent when ozil the magician showed up It’s as ridiculous as if people started saying that… Read more »

China1

Pierre how many goals from open play without Özil last season?

Go back to your YouTube and your sock, dude

Pierre

China
If you can’t see that we play better with a CAM then there is no helping you.

If the fans want Aubameyang to rediscover his goalscoring form , it’s 4-2-3-1…

Our wide players need to get behind the opposition full backs..

Pierre

China
“Go back to your YouTube and your sock, dude”

I tried to educate you but failed again….

China1

Yes Pierre we play better with ESR. The best we’ve looked in the last 18 months has been with him in the team. We didn’t look good with any other 10s I can think of…

Dissenter

If Auba isn’t right mentally, then he needs to take himself out of selection
Let Martinelli, Eddie or Balogun get the opportunities.

My commiserations with the anguish of his family emergencies but if he can’t do the job, step back and let someone else get those opportunities.

China1

‘I tried to ejaculate you but failed’

Easy on Pierre!

China1

No solid you dodged the question

You suggested it was ozil getting all the pre assists for auba cut backs but haven’t been able to give any numbers on it and strangely apart from ozil sycophant Pierre nobody else remembers Özil being instrumental in creating pre assists for auba’s cutback tap ins. How odd.

But yes it’s me who needs to be educated

Anonymous Commentator

Yes we do play better with a cam, that does not mean that we play better with ozil. We attacked better with ozil but were left wanting defensively. Emery recognised that and he opted to play willock as ozils replacement and the lad was often seen defending on the edge of his own box. Same thing now with arteta, ESR is more industrious in defense than ozil, and he’s not a complete 180 on technical contributions compared to ozil. Arteta tried the willock thing too but failed to recognise that Emery wasn’t playing the lad in the #10 hole specifically.… Read more »

Vintage Gun

“Do you know how many assists Ozil supplied to Aubameyang throughout the time they played together? One.”

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

Jim Lahey

“China you’re not getting it kid. We’ve tried to break it down but you’re just like Jim. You just don’t get it.”

Where is my list?

China1

One day we’ll get it Jim

Might require a YouTube compilation vid of his best bits and a fresh sock however

Jim Lahey

@China1 –

“One day we’ll get it Jim”

I mean he was so confident is making the statement I just figured he had all the data ready to go. I thought it would be foolish to make such claims without the data there to back it up, but hey, what do I know?

Vintage Gun

Ozil the great. Available for nothing. Willing to cut his wages down to 60kpw.

Yet only had offers from DC United and Fenerbahce.

Nothing more to say or see here

Sid

If Odegaard overcomes the injuries like RVP he could play #9 just like him

Sid

Defense wins you the league but NOT scoring gets you MIDTABLE!

Winthorpe

China

You do t want your centre half having 10/10 games
If he performs to that level frequently then there’s something wrong.
Your centre half should be dealing with the opposition with little fuss of his positioning is correct and that’s exactly what you get with holding and Mari.

I don’t buy that Gabriel is more talented. He’s more athletic but he doesn’t read the game that well for me. Take his pace and power away and he’s a championship defender.

Winthorpe

IF his positioning is correct

Winthorpe

SidFebruary 10, 2021 15:40:50
If Odegaard overcomes the injuries like RVP he could play #9 just like him

Na
That’s rubbish

Sid

Rubbish is when a poster keeps changing monikers after multiple bins

Pierre

Sid
“If Odegaard overcomes the injuries like RVP he could play #9 just like him”

My first thought when i saw Odegaard was his movement and the way he receives the ball reminds me of RVP ..i made the comparison on here a couple of weeks ago..

However, unless he has RVP’s lethal left foot and excellent movement in the box then it would probably be better for him to share the load with ESR or at times link with ESR

We have enough strikers to choose from .

Danny

Even as a blogger in my twenties, some of my old work was unbelievably crass and embarrassing.
———————————
Hey Pedro, in 10 years time you’ll look back and think the same about your backing of Arteta………..

Winthorpe

No, rubbish is the opinion you offer.
Odegaard is no vanPersie. He never will be. He’s left footed. He drops the shoulder. But he will never be a no9

shaun

“I don’t buy that Gabriel is more talented. He’s more athletic but he doesn’t read the game that well for me.” He does not have to be as talented as holding or Mari as yet but he doe have natural defensive instinct and is only 22 years old and one could argue positional sense and better passing can be taught by the generational coach where as the other two mentioned are very unlikely to gain the physical strength and pace Gabriel already has vandyke is the bench mark central defender because he has the lot this can be Gabriel if… Read more »

Winthorpe

Shaun

You can’t teach a player how to read the game.
I think it’s quite telling that our winning streak coincided with Mari and Holding in front of Leno.
I also think it’s no coincidence that Leno has become jittery and started making mistakes again with Luiz/Gabriel in front of him

Winthorpe

Terry, Adams, Keown, Carragher, Vidic Some of the greatest defenders of the premier league era. None of them were quick. All of them could read the game. What matters most at centre back is not pace and power but communication, the ability to know where to be, to read the situation. Gabriel may turn out to be a very accomplished centre back but Mari and holding have proved that they work very well together. They’ve provided clean sheets and made Leno look better than he is For me they are the first names on the team sheet after ESR and… Read more »

Winthorpe

Carvalho was another

Winthorpe

I’ll guarantee in 2 years time we are talking about Gabriel on here as dead wood. Same as Torreira and Sokratis and xakha and Mustafi and all of the other signings that were crowed about for the first 6-12 months and then berated thereafter.

Markymark

Saliba and his pals knock one out together and Pedro blames the leaker? If you’re going to do the French equivalent of the soggy biscuit game for Christ sake don’t film it !

Mysticleaves

Vidic was mad quick.

Holding can’t be mentioned near those people.

I appreciate he has appeared consistent in this shambles of a team but don’t forget we are 10th and have lost 10 EPL matches this season.

What’s the point if you can read a game when you can still get turned over easily?

Listen Holding ain’t bad but he’s not all that….take Smalling for example

Radio Raheem

I’d play Saka left back and Pepe in front of him, Odegaard right and ESR behind Lacazette. Any two of our current central midfielders can (don’t think it makes much a difference).

Winthorpe

Mystic

Not saying Holding is in that league but neither were Ronny Johnson or Cahill or Gary Pallister or some of the partners that Kompany had over the years.

I don’t see Gabriel usurping Holding. I have far higher hopes for Saliba

Winthorpe

OlisFebruary 10, 2021 17:04:25
Mystic he’s not comparing the players just highlighting not all defenders are lightning quick. Not even the best of the Premier League.

Olis
Exactly.

Winthorpe

Not every title/CL winning centre half is a world class legend. Many of them are seemingly ordinary and dependable like holding. But what they offer is good communication skills, adaptability to their situation and partners and quietly consistent performances across a season. This 9/10 performance myth about centre halves isn’t what playing centre half is about.
Thomas Vermaelen looked a fucking hero whenever he took to the field for arsenal. Rolls Royce. But he wasn’t dependable like holding.

Winthorpe

OlisFebruary 10, 2021 17:12:26
But they have to be good at reading the game obviously.

The most important attribute for the position of centre half.

Winthorpe

Name me any legendary centre half who’s most defining attributes are physical. That why the best centre halves carry on playing well into their thirties at the highest level.

Valentin

The running gait of player gives a false impression of speed. We all remember the England Germany World Cup game where Özil just glided effortlessly away from Gareth Barry. Yet, if you were to look at them individually, the one looking slow was Özil. Everybody rave about Aubameyang speed, but when you look at his stats he is not that quick over 30 yards. What is he is very quick over 5 yards to get ahead of the last defender who then can’t touch him. But when the ball is launched in the channel, if he does not have an… Read more »

Winthorpe

Olis

Couldnt agree more
For England sol could play with both Rio and Terry because he had it all. He could mop up and read and track runners. He could attack the first or second bounce and use his height and power to dominate. Can’t string a sentence together in the commentary box but what a player he was at the back. Just born to defend. Only his mental frailty prevented him from being a true leader at the pinnacle of the game into his late 30s and even then he was fantastic for Portsmouth when he left us

Freddie Ljungberg

Great, both Don and Aubergine are back. There goes the neighborhood again. Smh

Winthorpe

Val

Aubameyang is/ was very fast over long distances too
I’ve seen him burn defenders during his time at arsenal and leave them in his wake only to get to the ball and give it away because of his poor footballing ability

Jamie

Uh, 1st?

Where’d all the comments go?

Jamie

Oh, weird. Ignore me.

Terraloon

Jamie

There disappeared here as well

Jamie

Terr –

Good to know I’m not having an acid flashback.

Terraloon

Interesting article regarding Holding and lack of speed

https://paininthearsenal.com/2018/11/20/arsenal-rob-holding-fatal-flaw/

G8

It’s possible that Arteta and or his aides leeked Saliba vedio just to say I told you so!
Could it be Pedro!? Lol

Pierre

Fred
“Great, both Don and Aubergine are back. There goes the neighborhood again. Smh”

Dreadful state of affairs to have posters who are positive and understand the game…

Freddie Ljungberg

Pierre

Yes, that’s why they keep getting banned. For being too positive.

Nothing to do with being absolute cuntbags of course.

Guess you have to find your allies where you can get them though…

Valentin

Any truth in the rumour that Leicester wanted AMN, but that Arsenal refused to do business with them?
Then Southampton came for him and Arsenal agreed, but AMN did not want to play as fullback, so he chose WestBrom instead.

Winthorpe

Dear lord
Rob holding’s girlfriend is absolutely stunning
What a gorgeous woman.

Globalgunner

Winthorpe. Her shit still stinks. I can assure you of that.

Winthorpe

Terraloon Not a bad article but there’s no data to back any of it up. Basically John Terry cam through 20 years ago when the game was based on crossing? Sorry but when jt came through it was all about the high line Remember how many goals overmars, Henry, anelka, Wright, Owen, Fowler, Shearer and many others scored from running behind a high line onto a through ball? You rarely see those goals now Then you had the tika taka era with which we are all fully acquainted being gooners and an era in which defenders like Terry and vidic… Read more »

Winthorpe

GlobalgunnerFebruary 10, 2021 18:03:50
Winthorpe. Her shit still stinks. I can assure you of that.

Glad you weren’t my wing man in the day

Winthorpe

Holding is well capable of being a top four defender
Our defence is the best in the league behind Man City. Holding has been the only ever present during this time and has looked better (so has Leno) with Mari as his partner.
Sorry but if they were doing it at the business end or if emery hadn’t choked in his first season holding already would be a top 4 centre half twice over

Gbat

Holding is poor in the air. For a CB, one of the worst in the league numbers wise. Passing is below average. And I don’t even think he’s great positionally. He was partly to blame for the villa goal and the wolves penalty.

Winthorpe

Also, far too much emphasis being placed on ball playing centre halves on these pages because it’s in vogue. Hardly doing Luiz or John stones any good is it? What’s the point in being Gullit on the ball if you can’t defend? Furthermore holding is fine on the ball. Did anyone see his little dribble, step overs and all at the weekend on the right wing? Or his ball juggling outside the opposition box last season vs either palace or Newcastle? I’ve seen him pop some lovely passes to the forwards. His pass to Saka vs Brighton helped create the… Read more »

Winthorpe

He was partly to blame for the villa goal and the wolves penalty.

Wolves penalty? How? Villa goal I’ll accept. Every defender in the history of the game has failed to get tight before a goal at some point but that villa goal is the closest ive seen to a mistake from holding that’s led to a goal

I think it’s just bitterness from the trendy types who’d rather an expensive Brazilian outperform a £2m Bolton boy

Kroenkephobe

Winthorpe

Rob holding’s girlfriend is absolutely stunning
What a gorgeous woman.

I wonder what it was that attracted her to the fabulously wealthy former Bolton centre half?

Gbat

Winthorpe

Watch Holding on the Wolves penalty. When it’s headed forward he’s deeper than the rest of the back 4. Then instead of squeezing up on Neto when the ball is played, he drops even deeper. And then he fails to block the passing lane. It’s just my opinion.

He’s too far off Watkins for the Villa goal. Similar to the own goal he got against Everton when again he was nowhere near his man.

I don’t rate him. Never have. Got nothing to do with Gabriel. I think he’s also poor on the ball.

Terraloon

Winthorpe.

In terms of best defences in the league there are a whole clutch of teams behind the second best defence ( Spurs) Arsenal are third in that respect one less than Villa and Chelsea.

The difference is that they have all scored a significant number more than Arsenal.

Pierre

Fred
“Guess you have to find your allies where you can get them though…”

Now let me see….would i prefer to talk about football with people who understand the game and more importantly understand Arsenal football club, or the likes of you who have a weird fascination with wanking socks…

It’s sad that 65 year old man like Tony has to refer to wanking socks every day and even sadder that there are others that feel its even slightly amusing to follow in his foootsteps.

Pierre

Football is all about partnerships and from what i have seen , Holding and Mari have proved to be the best partnership as they complement eachother …

Mysticleaves

I can’t see Olis messages that winthorpe is quoting…is it just me?

“Holding is well capable of being a top four defender
Our defence is the best in the league behind Man City.”

Well, we aren’t the 2nd best defence in the league and we have lost 10 league games. And barely kept up to 6 cleansheets.

I get what you say about him though. He’s dependable. But should never be a defence leader or captain in a top 4 team. In a mid table team like ours though, he’s perfect

Northbanker

Pierre – the number of appearances of that partnership is far too low to draw that conclusion Gabriel is the future and will only get better. Apart from being commanding in the air and a great tackler, he is progressive with his passing and plays a key role therefore in moving the ball forwards as quickly as possible. Mari’s injury record is also not good although I’m impressed with what I’ve seen so far. Very comfortable he’s in the 4 CBs that we need. I see Holding in that same category with our no 1 right sided CB still to… Read more »

Winthorpe

Northbanker

Everything Gabriel has, Mustafi has
Both are prone to lapses in concentration and poor decision making from what I’ve seen
Gabriel has only just arrived and deserves time to settle in.
I’d give him 2 years as it can take that long to bed in. Let’s see
For now though it’s holding and Mari for me

Graham62

Gabriel is young and, as Pierre rightly highlights, he “is the future”

From what we’ve seen of him to date you can tell that he has a burning desire to win and, significantly, is tactically astute for someone so young.

Yes he will make mistakes but knowing he is a part of our defensive unit is a big plus as far as I’m concerned.

Radio Raheem

Everton are a better version of Arsenal: not a great deal of flair but solid and organised.

Zacharse

Atta boy goldinho

Mike

Saka going in to deputise at left back offers some space on the right for MO / Pepe.
Whilst I think Pepe has looked most effective on the left, I agree we need to get Auba firing again so he probably pulls rank here for this game at least.
Laca to start with Martinelli offering some fresh legs when he begins to tire.
I’d also go for the more mobile Mo Elneny over Xhaka given Leeds will have energy and pace through the middle.

Pierre

What I’m not quite getting is why are the european games over 2 legs if both games are at a neutral venue.

Playing a straight knockout game will make it a more exciting tie to watch.

HerbsArmy

Pierre Thanks for the response, but you steered clear of a like-for-like comparison with Liverpool, and completely ignored the Arsenal ‘psyche’ of the last 80 years. Wouldn’t you agree, for example, there are so many similarities in the appointments of Terry Neill in 1976, and Mikel Arteta. The only real difference being that Neill cut his management ‘teeth’ with two very underwhelming years at the Spud’s. But the bigger point is that those appointments are 44 years apart, and absolutely nothing has changed. A big club in a desirable world-class city, with the capacity and potential to be what they… Read more »

Dissenter

What are the chances that Kane will tear his left and right hammies at the same time during added time?

Dissenter

Carlo is a proper manager
He was more concerned about the temp of his tea on the sidelines

MD-Gunner

Ancelotti was available as manager but arsenal wasn’t interested is Arteta still manager of Arsenal? Here are on display 3 managers that were available but Arsenal has chosen the bottom of the barrel one.

WengerEagle

Anyone else loving this shit? 5 Everton goals haha shove that up your narrow arse Maureen.

Pierre

Herbs If united had sacked Ferguson after the 2 defeats , he wouldn’t have been there to take them to the league title.. The thing is , no one can predict the future, in fact the season we lost 8-2 to United we still managed to finish 3rd.. If we had sacked Wenger in August, there is a good chance we would have been in a similar position to where we find ourselves now….bottom half of the league.. With regard to your other point, of course you are right but it has never been something that has really interested me… Read more »

zacharse

Agree

zacharse

MD
Both managers would’ve cost us an arm and two legs more w backroom staff etc. Ancelotti is indisputably a great manager but everton i guarantee are paying him more than 2x what arteta is getting. simple as that. their owners have cash to burn, ours has made a real estate investment

Pierre

Herbs
Will just say that going 18 years or so without a league title makes it all the more sweeter when we win it..

The problem with Wenger’s success is that we attracted the wrong type of fans to the club who thought 1998 to 2004 was the norm .

HerbsArmy

There are some green shoots for sure, Pierre, but Arsenal still have a fragility running through its core.
This summer is huge for Arteta, he has a lot of big decisions to make and there is very little margin for error in recruiting the personnel needed to compete for top four.
It will determine whether he is an Arsenal hero or zero, but after his ordinary playing career he seriously needs to raise his game.

MD-Gunner

zacharse
May be not if they would have been influential in the transfer market And Willian, Cedric and other expensive wasters would not have been bought. Arteta needs to go to restore pleasing football. The next manager will have a real low bar getting Arsenal to improve on finish in the bottom half of the table. A dream job for any capable manager, watch it Brendan Rodgers will come in after this season is over.

Anonymous Commentator

Bobby balding is not the first defender that leaves from what is left.
Chambers leaves before him or I’ll riot.

bacaryisgod

Mourinho used to look 20 years younger than Ancelotti but now they look about the same age.

Weird….

China1

I do think Gabriel is our best defender technically and by which I mean he makes challenges that our other defenders are not capable of He has this really cool ability to go straight through his man from behind with a step in challenge without committing a foul which is extremely tough to do. I don’t think any of our other defenders can compete with him for tackling ability. He’s also thankfully a unit and has recovery pace. Holding (and maybe Mari) read the game better which is a really important thing Gabriel has to work on, but look in… Read more »

Mr Serge

If that brick headed cunt from utd went for 85 mill ,holdings 125 mill all day fucking long ,u fucking shitcunts

Quote of the year so far 🤣

China1

The funny thing with you Pierre is on the one hand you deflect from wengers disastrous end at arsenal by saying fans expectations got to high under him whilst on the other hand you criticize the managers that have followed him for failing to live up to wengers standards

Since you relish in wenger having overachieved and expectations should not be so high without him, kindly do go on and never criticize arteta or emery for failing to achieve the same things.

Cheers

HerbsArmy

If Arsenal’s entire history were defined by that six year period, Pierre, your statement would hold water, but when Wenger arrived in Oct. ’96 Arsenal were still in decent health, and as he (Wenger) proved, just a few tweaks away from a title-winning formation. Big clubs are always in the hunt for trophies, and don’t need to hand-pick certain periods when they were successful. The tone around the mentality of expectation is set by the club, to which the fans react accordingly. Fans want their club to be exciting and vibrant, they want to believe the sky’s the limit and… Read more »

Pierre

China “The funny thing with you Pierre is on the one hand you deflect from wengers disastrous end at arsenal” Wenger’s 4 cup finals in his last 5 years ( winning 3) will go down as a successful period in Arsenal’s history, so hardly a disatrous end , just not as good as his beginning.. 20 years at the club with a 90% success rate of finishing in the top 4, including 3 titles and 5 runners up. 7 FA cups with a further 4 runners up in cup comps… Doesn’t look too bad to me…..and playing football that we… Read more »

Time Up

Pierre back to his Ozil Wenger madness best.

Has he got any other football knowledge part from those two!..

Tony

“Good to know I’m not having an acid flashback”

Shrooms?.

Pierre

Herbs “Big clubs are always in the hunt for trophies, and don’t need to hand-pick certain periods when they were successful.” Yes they do , liverpool never won the title for 30 years. United 25 years and they are the 2 biggest clubs (trophy wise) Only one team can win the title and for the last 15 years we have been trying to lift the premier league trophy with one arm tied behind our back due to the financial mismatch… The fact is , we have an owner that for years wouldn’t spend a penny of his own money. If… Read more »

Pierre

Time up
“Has he got any other football knowledge part from those two!..”

Have you taken over from jamie as the resident snide…

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