How Arsenal’s summer is likely to play out

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I love the calming feeling of knowing that Arsenal fans are united for at least one summer. We all agree the Premier League was horrible, but every single one of us can see that we’re on the cusp of progress… provided the club backs the manager this summer.

There aren’t too many players I’m overly attached to, but I do think it is essential to keep Auba at Arsenal. He’s close to the peak of his goal-scoring powers, but as a footballer, he’s still pushing himself forward trying to find that next level. With him in the side, you always have a chance. I think he’s the sort of unique goalscoring talent we’d not be able to replace. His deal would set the club back £39m over 3 years. I suspect you’d get at least 100 goals. I’m not sure how you replace that and it’s actually quite frightening to think what we’d do if he did decide to leave. With Real Madrid apparently interested in Lewandowski or him, we might soon find out how keen he is to bed in for the Arsenal project.

The best bet right now is to give him what he wants, which is money, and ambition in the transfer market. Some reporting he wants to be reunited with an injury-prone, but technically dreamy Dembele who is struggling at Barca.

If he does sign on, then Arsenal has to begin the process of replacing the goals. Odsonne Edouard looks a serious talent for the future scoring a hat trick yesterday, we should be looking to find a striker like that to bring in as a deputy. We also need to find players that can share the burden of the goalscoring. It’s a little like the situation we had before Henry left, except I’m not sure we currently have many players that can step in.

Part of the creativity equation this summer has to be to find midfielders that can also score goals. We need to find players with Andrey, Santi, Pires, and Rosicky like vibes. It does seem increasingly likely that despite my anti-Kia agenda, we’ll be going there this summer, and if that brings in Willian and Coutinho, you’re hiring in talent that offers both creativity and goals. So that’s a good solve, but we still need to bring in young players behind them that can grow.

We’ll also need to look seriously at our centre back situation. I love Rob Holding, but I don’t think he’s comfortable enough on the ball to make it in the Arteta system. Sokratis seems like a nice guy, but he’s not the level needed. We have to find a ball playing centre back that is the right size, has the right amount of pace, and can grow with the team. David Luiz had a great game yesterday, but Arteta is absolutely kidding himself if he thinks that he’s taking us to top 4 next season as our regular starter.

There are a lot of rumours linking us to Sevilla’s Diego Carlos, he’s 6ft, right-footed, 27, and Brazilian. I’ve watched him for all of 6 minutes and he seems built for Arteta football. His comps position him as an all-action defender, he loves a Kolo-esque slide tackle, he pressures attackers with his aggression, and he has good strength and balance.

The great news is that we’re set on the keeper front. Emi Martinez has made an outrageously strong claim that he is number one. He’s barely put a foot wrong and if anything, he’s offered up a massive headache for Arteta because he’s a very different keeper to Bernd Leno. The two notable difference for me are his outrageous frame, which makes him hard to beat, and his command of the box. He catches, which is advantageous because in a fast system, controlling the ball is paramount. Leno likes to punch, which can cause problems with possession turnovers, and his lesser frame can see him pushed about a touch in the box. What Leno has is superior shot-stopping and I think he is better in one-on-one situations. Still, two great keepers, what a time to be alive.

Where I am interested to see what we do is in the fullback positions. Hector Bellerin was out of favour, then he came roaring back in. AMN was complaining that he wanted out, now he’s looking more and more like an extremely reliable executor of plans. He was brilliant in the semi and the final. His concentration is improving, he seems more bought into the project, and he has athletic gifts you dream of.

I’m still baffled that we opted for Soares in January, it’s early doors obviously, but I just don’t see it. Did we buy him to flip him? Or did we purchase him so we could sell one of AMN or Bellerin to bring in some much-needed cash this summer?

The midfield is going to be interesting from a selling perspective because that’s where I think we make our money. Lucas Torreira simply hasn’t worked out in the Premier League, he’s too small and he’s doesn’t make up for it with power or pace. He could be used as a decent make-weight with an Italian club. Matteo G dropped an Instagram post after the cup final celebrating the fact he was on holiday, you can’t knock him, he really is a bit of a whopper. Still, the reason I think the club hasn’t leaked much about him is that he’s revered as a super talent in Europe. I suspect he’ll get offers from Spain and Italy, and we really have to make them count. Getting Coutinho for £9m because we swapped Guendouzi would be a superb deal. Bringing a powerful player from Inter or Juve would also work for me. Whatever we do, we have to make it work. I’d ideally prefer a younger profile of player, but I do see the logic in the view that we already have a lot of young players, what we don’t have is reliable seniors that match the system we want to play.

The really big questions is this: What do you do about players that love their contracts?

The world is uncertain at the moment. Everyone knows shit is going to be bad for football clubs, so do players stick with big deals they love or do they move now and get some long-term security?

Sokratis earns about £90k week, he’s not getting that anywhere else. Mustafi earns the same, I think he’s been pretty good, but who will take him with an injury? Kola earns £120k a week because we picked him up on a free. We’re having to give Mikhi a free so Roma can afford him. Will anyone pay Lacazette £180k a week? Will Mesut Ozil see out the rest of his deal if he’s not even training? Will he really go full-on Winston Bogarde here? He absolutely has to go, we cannot continue to allow the grey cloud of the World Cup winner hang over us into another season.

Arsenal should reduce the wage bill this summer, hack out the expensive flops, and bring some normality and honesty to where we are as a club. I also think performance-based contracts should be given another spin.

Additionally, Arsenal needs to have those names pinned to a board with the headline PAY PLAYERS MARKET RATE. We cannot continue to lock ourselves into crazy deals for average talent. No more David Luiz deals for £200k a week. It’s only second-hand rumor, but it’s from a good place, that Willian has seen his deal half. From where, I don’t know, but I’d imagine if David Luiz was on £120k a week at Chelsea, and Willian is on the same, with the same agent, it’s probably from the same place. We cannot allow ourselves to be suckered into wasting money on old players that won’t be good in their third year. We need to do what we did for Mikel when he joined us, give him a longer deal on less money. More to the point, I really think we need to move away from signing players in their thirties.

So there are my hot thoughts on the summer and what we need to do. Arsenal will aim to move fast, Frank Lampard said Willian will reveal where he’s going over the next few days, and I’d imagine we’ll move into a speculation vortex over the coming 10 days.

Things to watch out for:

  • Clubs still in the Champions League will likely not deal until after the tournament. News on Partey might be hard to come by.
  • Anyone on Canales or Kia’s roster is viable because we are addicted to the contacts-teet
  • I would give credibility to rumours around Lille, Barca, Sevilla, and even Wolves players because of the connections

Raul has to get this summer right. There is a huge focus on his actions from the bloggers, the media, and people within the club. Edu also has to show his value, being a handsome man alone cannot disguise a lack of creativity or vision. This summer absolutely must count. Clarity of vision and coherence in the execution is something we’ve lacked for a very long time, now is the time to make good on it and push us back into the top 4 next season.

Let’s see what they do, I’m excited either way, so let me know what YOU’D do in the comments below. xx

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  1. DivineSherlock

    CG

    Thats all based on your speculation . If Arteta is onboard with Willian than so am I . By the time his deal expires we’ll have Martinelli and Saka ready for PL stage regularly , we need a big squad too since we are in Europe. Even Wenger had some shady deals when he was in charge like Kim Kallstrom or Park Chu Young . You dont know the thinking behind all Arsenal deals do you

  2. Samir

    Where do we think this team would finish next season?

    —————Martinez——————-
    Bellerin–NEW CB–Luiz–Tierney
    ———–Ceballos–Xhaka————-
    ——–Pepe–Coutinho–Willian—–
    ———————Auba—————–

    Potential sales:
    Lacazette (Auba moved to CF to accommodate Willian)
    Niles (Why else did we get Cedric?)
    Guendouzi (Swap for Countinho)
    Sokratis (Not needed with Saliba now on the bench; will be bedded in)
    Kolasinac (Has to leave surely? Very poor season form him)
    Holding? Mustafi? Chambers? (Only if anyone wants them)

  3. Emiratesstroller

    The Backpass

    Arsenal do need a full quota of Home Grown players, because if my memory serves me correct failure to do so impacts on the size of your squad.

    In any event I suspect that Arsenal will have a full quota next season and therefore a 25 man squad.

  4. Chika

    “Two managers lined their sides up in a 3-4-3 at Wembley on Saturday but only one of them had his players adapt and react to the opposition’s strengths while exploiting their weaknesses.

    Only one team, honestly, looked like their manager had given them the tools to adapt to what the game demanded of them. Just 28 games into his managerial career, Mikel Arteta has an FA Cup under his belt.”

    -Arseblog

    Anyone still thinks coaching is fanciful? Trust the sauce. 😉

  5. CG

    Samir

    Niles (Why else did we get Cedric?)

    Same reason we are getting Willian and Courtinhio.

    Who represent them all?

    Kia Joorabachin FC.

    farewell my sweet, beloved Arsenal.

  6. TR7

    Willian is class. Easily the best Chelsea player behind only Hazard in the last 5 years and I thought at times he looked more dangerous than even Hazard. I don’t think we will be left ruing his signing despite his age.

  7. Wasi

    Un

    Dont think you get the idea what a game changer is.

    If someone is starting and playing well then he is not changing the game . I’m sure you get what I’m saying.

    For eg – A lot of times during the course of the season you hear/read countless times that x player or y player changed the games after coming on.
    You never hear someone say – x player changed the game from the start.

    From what I’ve seen , Saka doesn’t yet have the X-factor that Pepe , Gabi , Lacazette , Willian possess.
    He is an extremely intelligent player, he will execute whatever plan Arteta had for him from minute 1-90 . But he has not shown he can turn a game where we are losing upside down like Pepe , Gabi or even Lacazette.

  8. The Backpass

    Emiratesstroller

    In theory yes, but it can also be this;

    17 non HG,
    4 HG.
    We can register those 21 players instead of 25 players and fill up the rest with u21’s.

    Last season we registered only 20 senior players, the rest was filled with U21 players.

  9. Dissenter

    London gunner
    ‘ We should be signing young players who have world class potential’

    Better coming from you than me
    All we can do is to rally behind the club now. They have chosen their path.

  10. The Backpass

    “We should be signing young players who have world class potential”

    The thing is we are already doing that, Saka, Tierney, Saliba last summer. Its fair to wait till the end of the transfer window to see if we continue that pattern.

  11. Dissenter

    Wasi
    There are very few players that fall int the game changer category, using the restricted way you’ve defined it.
    Certainly even Willian fails to meet the mark if you define it so narrowly.

  12. The Backpass

    “We should be signing young players who have world class potential”

    The thing is we are already doing that, Saka, Tierney, Saliba last summer. Its fair to wait till the end of the transfer window to see if we continue that pattern.

  13. Marc

    Emirates

    The home grown quota thing works backwards – I had it wrong as well rather than say you have to have 8 home grown players and then make the squad up from there you don’t have to have any home grown players. Basically it’s the last 8 spots in the 25 man squad have to be home grown with young players not counted.

  14. Pierre

    Tut tut Wasi

    You are asking for trouble on Le grove by giving an honest critique of one of their favourites.

    The unwritten rule on Le Grove is never question the ability of Saka, Martinelli and now Tierney.
    You have already broken one of the unwritten rules by suggesting that Ozil may return next season….

  15. Uwot?

    Sticking my neck out here but if Arteta gets his wish list this window il. Predict top 4 next season + Will win Europa league & 2022 ….The Title .exactly 18 years after the last.We have a habit of this 18 yr gap.History repeating .Heres hoping🤞

  16. Pierre

    Un
    “Give saka more game time off the bench in tight games and he will change more games from the bench”

    I’m with you, anyone who can put the ball on a sixpence from it wide the way Saka does , deserves to be called a game changer .
    Though I will say that I get wasi’s point as Saka isn’t what you called explosive.

    Anyone who thinks he isn’t a quality left winger is having a laugh …it’s not just about explosive pace, though it can help.

  17. Wasi

    Dissenter

    Thats what a game changer is tho.
    Have you ever heard someone saying ‘XYZ player started and changed the game’ cuz I havent.

    And yes very few fit this category because game-changers are rare.
    In our team I’d say only Pepe and Martinelli come into thay category and maybe Lacazette when he js fired up.

  18. Samir

    Uwot?

    2022 is a little too early. I think we’re going to need a few years in the CL before we can afford the best talents to challenge for the PL. Arsenal are skint, penny pinching or as CG states; going for players represented by Kia, sadly.

  19. Pierre

    Habesha
    “People saying Willian is coming for a Holiday are clueless. Have you seen Willian play? ”

    I like the way Willian plays, but it appears to me that a busy player will always get more recognition on Le Grove than a cultured, technical player…
    Ceballos has become a Le Grove favourite and he has that busy style of play.

    Can William remain the same busy player into his mid 30’s or will he have to change his game and learn to preserve his energy.

    I think he can.

  20. Wasi

    Reportedly Sancho to United is a done deal pending documentation and a successful medical.
    300 k per week contract.
    Insane.

  21. Brooklyn

    Willian is good player…one of the best in world to carry ball from defensive, middle third to final third…pace, dribbling, work rate, bangers from time to time…excellent at holding possession under pressure…but he is very frustrating player in final third…

    Pierre compared him with Mkhi stats wise…Mkhi is excellent in final third but is found wanting in other aspect in which Willian excels, especially in PL, so stats…but we need Willian’s attributes more. Why?

    Theoretically,
    Move one of Auba/Laca, one of them moves to CF…Pepe takes Auba role as 2nd fwd but from RW…Willian/Saka tasked with carrying ball forward, drop deeper help in buildup phase as LM and allows Pepe to play his favoured role, between LCB and LB higher up the pitch…Suits every body really, onus about hold up play from CF will drop significantly with Pepe/Amf playing near CF.

    Bellerin/Soares has to be offensive, Tierney has to be more defensive of fullbacks….suits them too…Tierney is pretty good at building/creating from deeper position…Coutinho/AMF, Auba/Laca, Pepe as risk takers in final third….Back five and mid circulating play…sounds pretty good theoretically…

  22. Valentin

    Club can make use of the U21 to make use of more than 25 registered players in the premiership.

    However there are some caveat.
    Even if you are U21, you need to have spend 3 years at the club to qualify as home grown in the premiership. So clubs can’t just buy team. Guendouzi did not qualify as HG or U21.

    I think that Willock, Nkethia, Nelson, ESR, Saka will still qualify for The U21 list, so there is no need to add them to the HG quota for this year.

  23. DigitalBob

    Wasi – He’s quality, but it is a crazy amount to spend.

    Some have said Covid and the Pandemic was a game changer in terms of massive fees and wages and yet here we are with another 20 year old earning over £200K per week and a transfer fee eventually in excess of £100 million.

  24. Valentin

    Un,

    The club can work on deals in parallel. There is no reason to spend 1 weeks on midfield and then next week on defenders.

    That’s why I found it strange that we had all those rumours on midfield and nothing on the defense. Anyway they may be working on one special target and don’t want people to know about it beforehand. The defense only require 1 left side CB and maybe Sarr is still in the pipeline.

  25. Wasi

    Val

    We are very much in the market for defenders.
    And if reports are to be believed it is Sarr and Gabriel we are looking at.

    Digital

    Agreed but thats what the price is going to be for elite players now , even if they are in their early 20s.
    Werner is on 285k a week.
    Thats why I think now , its utmost important to find them early and improve the quality coming through your academy.

  26. Valentin

    COVID did affect the top deal.
    Pre pandemic Sancho was quoted as at least £150 millions, he is going for still a large amount of money but a lot less than previously thought.

    What will be interesting is what happen to the £45~100 millions pre-covid.
    Will it collapse in price, in volume in both? That range was not just about top players and top clubs. Clubs with Champion’s League aspiration such as Leicester, Everton, Wolves were active in that range.

    For example Zaha is now a £30 millions player which sound a lot more reasonable than the previously quoted £80 millions.

  27. DivineSherlock

    I know we all liked to criticize Wenger and I dont wanna bring him up again but isnt it nice to hear all these transfer rumors than waiting for a year so that we could sign Marouane Chamakh on a free . Crazy.

  28. Uwot?

    Wouldn’t totally disagree with your assessment Samir.mines more a gut feeling!As for Manure.They have historically always been able to throw the kitchen sink at any transfer espicially these days as never been wanting to be outdone by their Noisy neighbours or the chavs in the “ lets spend silly money” to solve it stakes.Its about one upmanship for them.

  29. The Backpass

    Valentin

    “However there are some caveat.
    Even if you are U21, you need to have spend 3 years at the club to qualify as home grown in the premiership. So clubs can’t just buy team. Guendouzi did not qualify as HG or U21.”

    As per the premier league site… Guendouzi definitely qualifies as U21.

    https://www.premierleague.com/news/1335777

  30. DigitalBob

    Valentin – Yes the fee is reduced but its still a huge fee, a few months ago we had a lot of talk that the super transfers were dead and buried and that this was to be a window like no other, yet the Havertz transfer is a massive deal, and this is a massive deal with a few more to come this window.

    My take is simply that clubs with money will still have to pay enormous amounts for a long while yet.

    Maybe its more a case of the clubs masquerading as having actual cash (Barca/Atletico) can no longer hide and keep up.

    In regards to Zaha, he was never going for £70 to 80 million, that fee was always going to be reduced.

  31. Dissenter

    Palace effed up big time
    They should have sold Zaha last summer for big money, instead they moved the goal posts in potential buyers.
    Zaha was a nonentity this season, looked like he was sulking through the entire year. I can’t even see anyone paying £35 million for him. All the potential buyers have moved on. Even Everton bought Iwobi eventually.

  32. Dissenter

    Wasi
    I understand that Kante was the highest earner at Chelsea and he was in 250k weekly
    No way they paid Werner that much more that Kante who’s on the way out as the tabloids are reporting.

  33. Dream10

    Dissenter

    Zaha will end up at Everton.
    Palace are interested in the very talented Eberechi Eze from QPR. His signing will be overshadowed by other young generational talents. But, he’s good enough to get games at Arsenal/Spurs/Chelsea right now.

  34. Marko

    I do wonder how the Willian signing will be spun now. Can’t still blame it on the fat spiv and useless Edu since it’s reportedly Mikel pushing for it. I’ll hold off on a proper opinion on the signing because I’d much rather judge it based on the entire summers business rather than solely. Because you know otherwise…

  35. andy1886

    United are probably the only club (certainly in the UK) who would do that deal for Sancho. For me he’s still a big risk at that price but United can afford to take it and walk away of it fails.

    No doubt he has talent but it’ll be his attitude that determines just how much he makes of it, United had seem a lot of big time Charlies over the years so it’s down to Ole to make sure he doesn’t become another one of them.

  36. Emiratesstroller

    Clubs are always demanding grossly inflated transfer fees for their players when they are starting off a negotiation.

    In the current economic crisis it is highly unlikely that any player will be sold for the £100M + which is being demanded for Sancho.

    Arsenal are pleading poverty when it comes to negotiating transfer fee for Partey at £44.8 Million. However, if he is as being suggested Arsenal’s number
    1 target I am sure that we will find the money.

    It is inconceivable that Arsenal would walk away from this transfer, but the reality is that Athletico Madrid are still in Champions League and there is no
    urgency to conclude this deal until the competition is completed.

  37. Marc

    Marko

    My guess is that Pedro’s going to start a line of Mislintat left a secret list of amazing players (young and old) hidden in the managers desk and Arteta has found it – that’s why these signings can suddenly be good rather than Sanllehi driven giving a bung to an agent.

  38. Marc

    Emirates

    Loads on here were going mental last summer when it took time to get the Tierney deal over the line.

    We just need to chill and trust in Sanllehi. Oops Pedro’s just choked on his Oatmilk!

  39. Marko

    Yeah Marc it’ll be interesting to see some people pivot on past comments. I personally don’t know how to feel about it (if it does actually happen mind). If he’s part of 2 or 3 players only coming in it’ll look bad but as part of an actual overhaul then ok. It’ll definitely rule out the likes of Zaha coming so there’s that

  40. Marko

    One thing’s for sure Mikel’s in bed with Kia. Between Cedric being okay with the Luiz deal and now Willian Mikel is definitely sucking at that filthy super agent tit.

  41. Dissenter

    Marko
    It’s crystal clear that Arteta extracted a good deal from Arsenal before he signed on mid-season.
    No one will be bought or sold without Arteta’s consent. He even went above the management team and the board when he publicly demanded for signings.
    Soares, Mari, Luiz’s extension, Auba’s extension [if he signs] and the possible Willian signing will be solid Arteta signings.

    Pedro can still make his case about the length of these deals. It’s his prerogative to annoy people like you because that’s what makes the blog tick.

  42. Marko

    Maria’s not a Kia client it’s some other nefarious villian who has him for a client. No but in all seriousness I’d love it Jorge Mendes could help us out a bit this summer as well instead of just helping out Man City

  43. Leftfootcurler

    Sancho is a balon d’or level talent. And his actual performance level right now is that of Salah,Mane,Sterling.

    He will probably struggle with the physicality of the league for the first season.
    Then he would play at world class level.

  44. CG

    Pierre

    “””””I like the way Willian plays, “”””””

    Well I don’t and nor should anyone.

    I did a little research. Something our Dopes are unable to do.

    Chelsea 0 Bournemouth 1
    Chelsea 0 Saints 2
    Chelsea 0 West Ham 1

    Samba boy William featured in all 3 games last season for Chelsea
    (All season they have struggled at home to break teams down)

    In 2023/24 season and Cedric and William are coughing up their guts up and gasping for breath on the right wing- don’t say CG didn’t warn you.

  45. Leftfootcurler

    Its hard to say whether Arteta really wants some of the players we have signed recently.
    He is obviously going to go to the press and say he loves every player.
    That’s just his style.

  46. Leftfootcurler

    Un nai

    Nope I don’t think Sterling is a balon d’or level talent.

    I said Sancho was.
    But Sancho’s PRESENT PERFORMANCE LEVEL is similar to Mane,Sterling,Salah level.
    His peak performance should be significantly higher.

  47. Freddie Ljungberg

    Is it even legal to roam free when you’re as stupid as CG? If it is laws needs to be passed immediately for the good of all.

  48. Hoksilato

    Noises in France that Arsenal have moved in pole position reg. Gabriel the Lille CB
    ( ahead of …. Napoli. rings a bell )

  49. Leftfootcurler

    I am simply repeating myself here but here it is

    Willian is one of the best forwards in the game at two things:-

    1) Defending
    2)Counter attack.

    Against a good defensive block he will hit the odd screamer.
    Not much more.
    Would make an elite RWB
    not an elite RW/LW.

  50. Marc

    Un

    Pedro’s dug himself into a hole on this one. No one would argue about using modern methods and certainly going after young talent is something I think 99% on here would agree with but he positioned himself behind an argument that Mislintat was amazing and Sanllehi is the devil incarnate. He can tell me that some journo’s agree with him – I couldn’t care less journo’s are full of shit, he can tell me the facts are out there – where? What he seems to have problems with are Mislintat’s summer as Head of Recruitment vs Sanllehi last summer and the official numbers show we are not paying agents the sums that were implied by Pedro’s little band of delusional followers on this subject.

    His new argument is the guy appointed to the board is there to stop him doing “dodgy deals”.

    Billionaires don’t put an extra layer of supervision on someone who’s screwing them over, they fire them and then call the police and get them charged with fraud.

  51. Marc

    “Noises in France that Arsenal have moved in pole position reg. Gabriel the Lille CB
    ( ahead of …. Napoli. rings a bell )”

    How many billions are we slipping an agent – how much VAT is this going to cost us.

    We’re all doomed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  52. Champagne Charlie

    Marko

    Disagree, the idea a manager can have a player forced upon him is a farce. Manager should be left with the power of veto every time.

  53. Marko

    His new argument is the guy appointed to the board is there to stop him doing “dodgy deals”.

    Ah the lawyer. Nothing will keep a dirty agent in check than a squeaky clean lawyer.

    Said no one ever.

  54. Leftfootcurler

    Its frustrating that Kroenke won’t invest in the squad.

    Sancho,Partey,Doucoure,Aouar,Haller.

    All players available in the market.

    Would challenge for the league+CL.

    Need two new CBs too but its hard to judge CBs without watching them for a whole season,game by game.

  55. Tom

    In 2023/24 season and Cedric and William are coughing up their guts up and gasping for breath on the right wing- don’t say CG didn’t warn you.

    CG
    I trust you’ll be right there to remind us what CG had to say about these transfers won’t you.

  56. DigitalBob

    Marc – So dross x3 out(I’ll miss Holding a little) and 22 year old tall athletic CB coming in to partner Saliba, great move, this seems to good to be true. I assumed he was Everton bound.

  57. Marko

    Manager should be left with the power of veto every time.

    Completely disagree. The days of managers being overlord of transfers are over. Literally think of any manager at any major club and even the very best managers don’t have complete control of transfers. And it makes sense because managers are generally easily expendable the days of managers being there long long term are over and it negates the whole DOF/TD role. Plus we’re kind of seeing examples of why you shouldn’t right now with Mikel. Don’t get me wrong I’m happy with the appointment but I’m not happy with some of the perceived signings of his so far. But the whole DOF approach to transfers is something that works clearly and we should keep at it.

  58. Tom

    Is it even legal to roam free when you’re as stupid as CG? If it is laws needs to be passed immediately for the good of all.

    FL
    Wait,what?
    I thought you said CG was posting from a ventilator shaft or something .
    He’s actually roaming free?

  59. Champagne Charlie

    Marko

    Nobody has mentioned total control, can you stick to what’s written for once? Jesus Christ.

    The manager should always have veto power is what I said, it’s a fucking world away from lording over anything.

    “Plus we’re kind of seeing examples of why you shouldn’t right now with Mikel.”

    Uhm, no we’re not, but by all means introduce your own speculative bs as fact.

  60. Marko

    Disagree, the idea a manager can have a player forced upon him is a farce

    It’s really not. Klopp had Salah forced upon him and he’s done alright. I’d argue even more of a farce would be a baby manager just mere months into a job being given complete control over the transfers of a major European club. That would be crazy. No I think discussions on types of players that compliment a style and vision and then compiling a list and working off that is the way forward.

  61. Trap

    How anyone can look at willian who has played the better part of his career on the wing and made his impact could say he isn’t good as a wingrr but as a wingback is totally myopic

    Jeeez !

  62. The backpass

    CC
    “The manager should always have veto over signings, ridiculous to have it any other way.”

    I dont think always, Pochettino said no to Tielemans, Ricardo pierrera and Maddison. Sometimes, you just have to identify the characteristics you want and let your scout and DOF complete it.

  63. Marc

    Come on if an organisation is going to work then the management set up has to be able to communicate – that means that the manager will have input but will also realise that sometimes he can’t have who he wants and an alternative will be targeted.

    If the manager is that against a signing he just won’t pick the guy.

  64. The backpass

    CC
    “The manager should always have veto over signings, ridiculous to have it any other way.”

    I don’t think always, Pochettino said no to Tielemans, Ricardo pierrera and Maddison. Sometimes, you just have to identify the characteristics you want and let your scout and DOF complete it.

  65. CG

    Tom

    “”””CG I trust you’ll be right there to remind us what CG had to say about these transfers won’t you.””””””

    The precise moment – Arsenal finish in the top 4- I’ ll retire from Le Grove.
    You will never hear from me again.

  66. Champagne Charlie

    “It’s really not. Klopp had Salah forced upon him and he’s done alright.“

    Because Klopp preferred Brandt and ended up with Salah isn’t an example against veto power.
    It would only become one if Klopp was adamantly against Salah’s signature.

    Do you know that was the case? Or did Klopp want a winger, offer Brandt as his choice, then have Salah offered by the committee and agree he was also suitable?

  67. Marko

    Uhm, no we’re not, but by all means introduce your own speculative bs as fact.

    Are we not? I mean it appears that he’s the driving force behind Willian.

    Also Charles relax will ya I can already hear you going off like a teapot cause someone differs from your opinion. You’re gearing up for your usual aggressive approach to a debate and I’m not interested. Managers should A say on transfers not THE say on transfers that’s my opinion. Especially not a brand new manager that would be insane

  68. Freddie Ljungberg

    “The precise moment – Arsenal finish in the top 4- I’ ll retire from Le Grove.
    You will never hear from me again”

    Someone forward this to Kroenke stat! We need an amazing transfer window.

  69. andy1886

    A winger, another CB – hopefully we don’t do a traditional AFC window where we buy several players but stubbornly refuse to address the position that we are most deficient in. In this case, our midfield.

  70. Marc

    CC

    You’re either implying Arteta’s getting players he doesn’t want full stop or got yourself into an irrelevant argument with Marko.

  71. Freddie Ljungberg

    Gabriel would be a great addition to partner Saliba, that’s our starting CB pair done for a decade or a significant source of income if we have to sell. Good business if true.

    Mari backup to Gabriel and Luiz and Chambers eventually backup to Saliba. Reckon that won’t take too long.

  72. Marko

    Because Klopp preferred Brandt and ended up with Salah isn’t an example against veto power.

    It is literally a great example of veto power considering how well Salah has done. It is amazing to suggest otherwise. Consider the amount of goals he’s scored for them compared to the fact that as great as Brandt is he is very different to Salah and not as much as a goal threat.