Arteta having a classic Wenger-week-in-Feb

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Well HOWDY GOOD MORNING TO YOU all.

This week is a bit of a lol right? It’s like a typical February post-2007. We’d be in every competition, performances might be creeking, but you’d be confident that THIS was the year. Then three games would creep up on us and we’d be out the league, Champions League and FA Cup in one week.

Arteta looks like he’s picking up a bit of that magic from his old boss. We lost the North London Derby, we’re about to get a light/heavy spanking from Liverpool, then we go to Wembley for an improbable semi-final.

It is what it is.

He seemed pretty upbeat in the press conference. Maybe he’s not reading the NO IMPROVEMENT merchants and he saw this comment from CC in the comments.

Here’s a a quick snippet of goals FOR and AGAINST we’ve seen throughout the season at different points….

Week 13 – Emery’s last game: 18, 19
Week 18 – Freddie’s last game: 24, 27
Week 35 – now: 51, 44

Which breaks down as…

Emery: 18, 19 (-1)
Freddie: 6, 8 (-2)
Arteta: 27, 17 (+7)

Or…

Emery: 1.38 goals per game, 1.46 goals against per game
Freddie: 1.2 goals per game, 1.6 goals against per game
Arteta: 1.59 goals per game, 1 goal against per game.

It’s late so sue me for any inaccuracies, but its pretty evident we’re scoring more and conceding less PER GAME with Arteta. Otherwise coined as ‘no improvement’.

Core themes in the presser remained that we played well but allowed mistakes to kill us. I think the fact we didn’t get battered and largely controlled the game is his solace, though tactically, it’s hard not to think that Mourinho giving you ball and waiting for mistakes is him controlling the game.

His other theme was about progressing the club forward. He’s very careful with his words, but he keeps reminding everyone that the reason Liverpool are where they are is they made consistently good decisions on players. They were strategic, smart, and they pushed the club forward.

‘Yeah. What they have done is phenomenal, obviously the first two years it took them some time to rebuild the squad and to create a new culture, a new philosophy and a game model that suited the coach. Then they started to recruit every single player in relation to what they needed and that’s where I think they were really smart. They bought with specificity for every position that was required. Financially they had a big backing and made some big signings which completely changed the club in my opinion.’

I think it’s fair to say that the first transfer window can be written off as a hangover from yesteryear. David Luiz and Cedric Soares weren’t my kind of deals, but you can rationalise why they happened because of the state of the squad and the lack of options. Moving into this summer, we can’t be topping up our squad with more players like that. We have to be strategic about who we sign and what the path forward is.

We don’t just want Champions League qualification, we want a squad that can grow into that competition and win it. I know that sounds mad, but you have to shoot for the stars. That means signing players that ‘might’ drag you over the top 4 line is a losing game (it’s also a game we’ve played for 3 years and it hasn’t worked). If this current squad gets us into the top 4 next season with the addition of Willian and some other players looking for a retirement fund, what happens next? They can’t sustain it. We can’t sell them. Our squad is worse off for it. That’s why the better bet would be to sign up players that have the pedigree to make Champions League, but could grow when we make it there.

The big dollars, if we have any, must go on the core this summer. We need a ball-playing centre-back, we need a #6 like Partey, and we need an #8 that is ready to roll. Then we need to upgrade with players that fit the Arteta mold.

We’re being linked with Marc Roca, I’m not shocked. Technical, creative and quick thinker. Our midfield doesn’t create without players like that. We don’t just need one player like that, we need to start building a conveyor belt of them.

Supporting Emery came at a great cost. We brought in someone without understanding what he wanted to do on the pitch, and because his hire wasn’t on merit, no one paid attention to what he wanted. Now we have a coach with a much clearer articulation of what he wants to do. I suspect he has more sway with the staff. He’s Edu’s hire. Hopefully that means something because another incoherent summer and we’re in big trouble. This is more on Klopp.

I know how many decisions have to be right and how much support you need from the club and the people around, and how much connection you to have to generate from your fans to have the full package, and afterwards it’s football. The context right now is different to what it was as well four years ago and the abilities for a club to rebuild something is more limited, but it’s certainly something we have to look at and how they did it because it’s a great example. But we have to know that we have to do it our way with our resources and have it in mind that the content right now is different, but we are heading to be the best and this is my only objective with this club. We have to find a way to do it.

The ambition is to be the best. Not Europa League winners. Not top 4. To get back to the very top. It’s an ambition right for Arsenal, the question is, can it be supported? We’ll find out.

To start, we have to navigate Liverpool at home who are on the charge for the Premier League points record. He was asked if he’d rest players so we had a better chance at the weekend.

I believe that it’s very important to have energy and momentum going into important matches, and in order to do that you have to go game by game. Today and tomorrow we will asses the players and how they are, and obviously they’ve been hit and a lot of them have played some crazy minutes up until now and again we’re going to have games every two and a half days. We will try to put the strongest team out as possible here and as well on Saturday, and to do that we need to know how everyone recovers from the game.

I think he’s desperate to turnover Liverpool. He needs a restart statement win and I’m not sure Wolves quite counts in his mind. I think the idea of Arsenal keeping their concentration for 90 minutes is quite hard to fathom, but we’ve seen crazier things. The weekend game is where it’s at, City have had plenty of bad days this season and their away record isn’t great. Making an FA Cup final would be a different kind of statement.

Let’s see what happens, have a great day.

P.S. Arteta’s opinions on City and FFP were factual but missed the point. City are where they are because they pump a nation’s cash into the project. That result was the final nail in the coffin for Fairplay in football. It also makes a mockery of Ivan G and Wenger telling us for 10 years that when the rules kicked in, we’d be positioned to take advantage.

Now it’s clear. You either have a sugar daddy, or you don’t. I think it’s bad for the game. Bayern don’t have a sugar daddy, but they are financially dominant and just won the league for the 8th year in a row. The Spanish League is fairly locked. Juventus always win in Italy. Paris will always win unless they rehire Emery. The only saving grace our league has is it’s basically 8 mega-rich owners slugging it out. Football isn’t fair and it’s getting more and more unfair. In the end, people will get bored if there isn’t a competition. We’re a way off that but it isn’t beyond the realms that people could lose interest.

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NJ Gooner

Europe place!

NJ Gooner

Just missed glory.

salparadisenyc

What an absolute joke FFP turned out to be, really looks to be the wild west now.

No easy way back in for Arsenal with the leadership/owners we have making the big decisions. If the Newcastle takeover by the Saudi’s goes thru thats another oil rich funded side shelling huge amounts in.

NJ Gooner

DM,

I don’t know how you do it. 🙁

andy1886

“I think the fact we didn’t get battered and largely controlled the game is his solace”

Can we just stop accepting that not getting battered by Spurs is some sort of a positive? Long gone Gooners would be turning in their graves at that sort of thinking.

Absolutely we should aim high, and we do need better players (not a ball playing CB, just one that can defend). The real issue is that we spend money badly on the wrong player or on the wrong position. Unless that changes we’ll be stuck in mid table purgatory.

NJ Gooner

Stupid question perhaps, but does Roca even have a right foot? You wouldn’t think so from the highlights. One of the (many) problems with Xhaka is that he doesn’t have a right foot. So many possible passes are missed because he can’t move the ball more than five feet with his right. We’ve got a number of left-footed players now (Xhaka, Pepe, Saka, Kola). Don’t we need a two-footed player in the middle of the park.

I mourn for Santi……..

CG

Klopp on Arteta:

“”””Mikel is part of very exciting new manager generation. Really exciting to watch. You can see the ideas, influenced by Pep. Mikel would have had the same ideas when he was a player. Arsenal are a really exciting squad.”””””

Patronising, condescending and dismissive..
There is nothing EXCITING about Arteta or Arsenal or the squad .
(Absolutely nothing.)

Totally and utterly unacceptable for Arsenal to have novices like Edu and Arteta in charge.

We used to be a serious club.
World renown,
World respected,
Leaders.

Not now.
Abject and a laughing stock to boot.

Marc

Dear oh fucking dear.

Wasi

‘Paris will always win unless they rehire Emery.’

This. 😂

Chris

I was saying this the other day (lack of competition) and it must be dull as anything supporting football in Europe. The French League is a joke, nobody is ever getting near PSG. Bayern only really have Dortmund and possibly Leipzig who could take them but even then they cherry pick the best from both those clubs. Juve are completely dominant in Italy as the others have always put up a fight but crumpled at the end (Napoli, Lazio etc). Look at the history of La Liga and it is largely dominated by the big two, it is almost a… Read more »

Wasi

Okay CG , we’ll take your word over the best manager in the world’s.

Wasi

Roca is a faster Xhaka.
Need Partey , Szoboslai/Grealish

Frost

“He’s Edu’s hire.”

Huh?

Frost

Couldn’t even finish watching that Roca highlight. Definitely a faster Xhaka

Champagne Charlie

“Supporting Emery came at a great cost. We brought in someone without understanding what he wanted to do on the pitch, and because his hire wasn’t on merit, no one paid attention to what he wanted. Now we have a coach with a much clearer articulation of what he wants to do. I suspect he has more sway with the staff. “ This is what resonates the most with me having witnessed the last 18 months. The lack of coherence when purchasing is evident and, although the right profile was targeted last term, its clear the right needs were ignored.… Read more »

Champagne Charlie
Jamie

“Now that I have been told that Arsenal are genuinely considering loaning him with an option to buy, I am in two minds.”

Who by?

Wasi

Val

‘Now that I have been told that Arsenal are genuinely considering loaning him with an option to buy, I am in two minds.’

No offence Val , but I’m pretty sure your sources dont give you the right insights. Especially your source with Saliba.

Receding Hairline

Lol…the staggering difference between the two is one is a distinguished manager with promotions and trophies under his belt. The other is quite good in press conferences but for now generally lacking in game management. If what Arteta needs for his vision is Xhaka as midfield go to guy and the two dudes he just handed four year deals I don’t think that’s much of a vision. But hey we now live for this press conferences and forget what we see on game day. Guendouzi and Martinelli were our two most promising and brave youngsters, one is still being told… Read more »

CG

Re Saliba.

If the player has any sense.

Arsenal FC( 2020 version) is the last thing the player needs in his blossoming career.

We have stopped him playing in the French Cup final for his local team.

And Arteta the Daydreamer wants David Luiz to mentor him next season.

Saliba deserves better than being partnered with the likes of Cedric, Mary and Luiz a novice manager and ailing club.

Get out while you can – would be my advice.

Champagne Charlie

Usual suspect couldn’t help but interject when Emery was mentioned.

He failed mate, get over it. Whether Arteta does is up for debate, your mans isn’t.

He failed, embarrassingly.

Danny

I felt really bad for Saka, he should’ve signed that new contract after the derby, Arteta then would’ve started him instead of that left footed 72 million flop of the season Pepe. What a waste of money.
As the Liverpool match is now just a warm up match for Wembley, might as well start with Ozil and Guen, makes no difference.

GunnerDNA

Day 250 name dropping a manager that was fired months ago because what the other does after six months in charge is irrelevant because he needs 23 new players. We just get kicked by Jose who most spend days talking about how trash he was and here Pedro is today quoting Klopp on the eve of a big game against the champions. If you believe anything Klopp said that PC in regards to AFC, I’m sorry for you because you’re at the point of no return. No mentioned of how Arsenal can get the best from Liverpool or how Meekel… Read more »

Receding Hairline

While we are at not knowing your vision Zaha was the signing asked for… Pepe delivered Nzonzi or someone along those Lines…here have midget Torierra Jokes were made about him wanting Banega…well he pisses all over our midfield options at present. Emery was a fool for not demanding he be heard when it came to key transfers, you don’t determine who plays for any coach and then demand results. So Edu should take a list from the current coach and deliver on what is specified. Maybe then we can actually see this vision some insist is clear as day, all… Read more »

azed

“The lack of coherence when purchasing is evident and, although the right profile was targeted last term, its clear the right needs were ignored. That occurs when the manager hasn’t a clue what’s needed to deliver his brand of football.”

David Luiz, Cedric Soares and Pablo Mari are definitely what we need right now.

Good to know Arteta has the players he needs to play his brand of football.

Radio Raheem

I can’t say I’ve watched many Espanyol matches to form any opinion on Roca. That said Espanyol have just been relegated so it shouldn’t be hard pricing him away.

Wasi

Zaha – Scored 4 goals this season
Nzonzi -Playing for Besiktas.

azed

We already know the theme for this summer.

Good players —- signed by Arteta.
Bad players —– signed by Kia and Raul

GunnerDNA

A manager who requested to have David Luiz get a contract extension and a 4 yrs deal for Mari is a bum.

Radio Raheem

Banega is still a baller, top player shame he is moving to the middle East.

Gomez and/or Malinovskyi at Atalanta are very good players. Gomez certainly top 5 to 10 number 10 currently and would give a good couple of years to usher in the youngsters.

GunnerDNA

azed,

“We already know the theme for this summer.Good players —- signed by Arteta.
Bad players —– signed by Kia and Raul”

You miss the part stating it was always a long term project.

Guns of SF

Forget Roca. That highlight reel was shit.
Buendia is cheaper and a much better dribbler and passer than Roca

Have a funny feeling tho that Coutinho might end up with us…

Tayo

What do you think of Buendia?

Radio Raheem

Emery, and I think Arteta, are head coaches not managers. The players to sign and their profile thereof is decided by committee of which the technical director has a big say. Of course, the head coach would have a say but it is nothing like the sort of power a manager, in the notional understanding of the role, implies.

SpanishDave

Arteta is making the same mistakes with his substitutes and game management.
The back three are poor, slow and technically bad.
He should at least have a first team lineup by now but each week it’s different, so I have no confidence in him. For me he is to green and Arsenal should not be gambling on a novice.
When he fails then what?

Ishola70

Fans will not lose interest if they see player additions that they can get on board with and see a credible challenge for CL. Many fans are not on board with David Luiz, Mustafi, Xhaka and to a lesser extent Mari etc. Willian would be borderline for me. People can moan that it is another inhouse agent signing and he is an older player but there is no doubt he can be a very good player on his day and he has quite a lot of days where he turns up. The Cech signing wasn’t disastrous despite how many fans… Read more »

jwl

Emery, with multiple domestic and European trophies, was a failure by taking us to European final and improving our league position but the novice who was hired due solely to who sat beside for a few years, and hasn’t improved our squad, is obviously world class.

I feel like I am being trolled here.

Radio Raheem

You’d expect Arsenal to lose the next two matches, that’s just normal. What will be good even unexpected is if we put up decent performances.

Ishola70

Disappointing the “it’s not fair” tone in the last part of the post.

Let’s move on from Wenger post 2003 shall we.

It’s a losers mentailty to scream it’s not fair.

Clubs have shown that if you get it right you can have good times amidst yje sugar daddy and bigger spending clubs.

Receding Hairline

“He failed, embarrassingly.” 70 points, EL Final One couldn’t get past Olympiakos with a first leg win in the bag. Talk when the staggeringly better manager matches that next season. This urge to elevate Arteta to managerial greatness before he has even shown he is good let alone great, what purpose does it serve? Let the young man learn to walk before flying, he hasn’t even had a full season as manager yet he is “staggeringly” better than one who has won promotions and trophies. Only a drunk writes stuff like that. Some of you write like football does not… Read more »

azed

Ishola

Signing William is moving backwards.

CG

Azed “””David Luiz, Cedric Soares and Pablo Mari are definitely what we need right now.”””” Just imagine if the peerless Arsene Wenger sanctioned contracts totalling 9 years( 4+4 +1) when the club was 43 points of top spot,midtable and potless. (And we have the Corona pandemic too.) There would be no prevarication, no benefit of the doubt and no grey area. The manager would have to be sacked. Arteta sanctioned these. He has to to go. Mourinho was condescending pre match about Arteta ( ie. when Jose knew him as a 15 years at Barcelona) Now Klopp is patronising him… Read more »

Ishola70

azed
“Signing William is moving backwards.”

Not necessarily.

David Luiz was most definitely a moving backwards signing.

Willian could be useful for a couple of seasons.

Valentin

Rigid formations are most helpful for limited players because the formation hides their flaws. If you have intelligent players, you can relax the tactics and let them express themselves more, because they are able to cope with unrehearsed situation. The lack of fluidity of our attack problem is compounded by the 3-4-3 formation. Our midfield is regularly out-numbered by the opposition. So outside of crosses by Tierney and cutback by Bellerin, the ball hardly reaches the penalty boxes. Xhaka has the ability to make sliding passes but he needs time on the ball (no quickness of vision). Ceballos is decent… Read more »

Ishola70

I have to agree that this elevating Arteta to grand levels is a bit daft really. Let’s see how he gets on next season. It is far too early to laud over him. I get it that people liked his profile that being younger and seen as an emerging talent coach wise but we have seen these profile type managers fail as well as succeed. It is also doing no favours at all to Arteta to put him on a throne this early. He will gain the full respect and admiration of the fans once he shows he can get… Read more »

Receding Hairline

“RH, you spent 18 months pretending what Emery was offering was progressing the club. Don’t talk about drunk writing my man.” In those 18 months we competed for the top four and the europa league final, if we had crossed the line we would have qualified for the champions league and that would have increased revenue and the profile of the signings we targeted, so yes he was indeed trying to progress the club , he just didn’t have the sauce you wanted. He was let down by the same players you want gone before we can “judge Arteta”. So… Read more »

Champagne Charlie

Receding

I’m optimistic to what Arteta can bring to the club, and buoyed by what I perceive as important characteristics this football club needs in its manager.

For someone that likes to talk a lot of shit about how I ‘defend Arteta’, whom is yet to actually live or die by the sword, you’re here every fucking time to defend Emery who died gruesomely on his.

I know who looks the bigger melt.

azed

Ishola

There’s no upside to singing William.

None at all.

Receding Hairline

“It is also doing no favours at all to Arteta to put him on a throne this early.He will gain the full respect and admiration of the fans once he shows he can get this team to compete credibly over a whole season.”

Simple really

The daily promotions of his perceived greatness is actually hurting not helping him. Arsenal fans are known to react poorly when their lofty expectations are not met.

Ishola70

Oh I forgot Kolasinac in the group of players fans can’t get on board with.

How did I miss him out.

At the end of the day fans need to have belief and trust in the players.

Atm there are a few too many players where this isn’t the case.

Receding Hairline

“I know who looks the bigger melt.”

It’s never you is it…in your la la land

Receding Hairline

“I perceive as important characteristics this football club needs in its manager.”

No one cares what your expectations of an Arsenal manager are….come next season league position and style of football played will determine if he indeed merits to keep his job.

The constant talk of standards and ganging up on 20 year old’s are just side shows.

Jury is still very much out.

You and Pedro can keep using Emery as a shield for as long as it’s convenient, come next season no one will buy that crap

Champagne Charlie

Receding

Certainly isn’t me when you’re here to claim that prize over and over.

State of you bumming up a manager that fucking failed at the club and left no redeeming value. You do that and your level best to shit on positivity towards someone that is in position to move us forward from that.

Embarrassing

Ishola70

azed

I will repeat.

Willian could be useful for a couple of seasons.

He should not be put in the David Luiz bracket of awful signing.

I have already said I would prefer a younger player with high potential like the majority but if this doesn’t materialise then Willian is not the end of the world.

Let’s be clear as of right at this moment Willian would be more useful to this team than the current Nicolas Pepe we have been seeing.

jwl

Arteta is more likely the next René Meulensteen than next Pep.

silentstan

1) Arteta will not take us to the top unless he is still around when SK finally sells up
2) Rebuild is a massive task. Kolasinak, Ozil, Mustafi, Sokratis, Luiz, Bellerin, Torriera, Pepe, Laccazette, Nelson, none are good enough or consistent enough

Chris

“Now that I have been told that Arsenal are genuinely considering loaning him with an option to buy, I am in two minds”

I mean this was discussed yesterday but it really fails to make any kind of sense, unless something has happened behind the scenes.

Anyway who is your source Valentin, Hellman’s or Heinz??

Champagne Charlie

Receding

By that same measurement, nobody gives a fuck about your bumming of Emery. History shows he was a waste of space here and he’s been duly sacked as a result.

So do everyone a favour and skip the retelling as if it was something other than promise that developed into a colossal fucking embarrassment.

underrated Coq

Arteta the Coach:

Our brightest talent in many a years, Martinelli, sidelined and forgotten.
Our fiery midfield talent, Guendouzi, ostracised and shamed.
Our best English talent, Saka, shunted to a different position.

Guns of SF

Szolobai is gone to Milan
shit man.

Anyhow, with Kia, and the connections he has with our team, I feel Coutinho could help us… he is not a bad player. We should try a loan with option to buy.

Receding Hairline

“You do that and your level best to shit on positivity towards someone that is in position to move us forward from that.” Making shit up now are we? So whoever does not believe a manager not even 20 games into his craft is already staggeringly better than one with trophies to his name is “shitting on positivity” That’s isn’t positivity fella, that’s just nonsense and you are full of it. You and Pedro have elevated a coach who any sane person can see is clearly still learning his trade and his career could go either way naturally to the… Read more »

Chris

15 years ago today was the day Vieira left.

If we only gain one thing from the upcoming window how it would be a player of his quality and leadership skills.

Receding Hairline

“You are defending our worst start in 38 years. Think about that.”

No i am not

I am defending a perfectly respectable first season where we finished 2 points off third place and got to a European cup final.

Nice try though

Emery was rightly sacked this year, the constant reference to 18 months of misery though is a marketing tool meant to serve a purpose

Receding Hairline

I see chatter Coutinho has been offered to Newcastle and Arsenal.

That particular piece of info should concern Arsenal fans, we now have Newcastle with financial strength. Very soon we will be battling for places with teams like that. The league is getting ever more competitive when it comes to who can purchase better players.

Guns of SF

Dangote get in please

Champagne Charlie

“So whoever does not believe a manager not even 20 games into his craft is already staggeringly better than one with trophies to his name is “shitting on positivity”“ Shitting on positivity is you making it your part time job to pick at every thread in Arteta whilst simultaneously bumming up a guy that was literally sacked this season for being shit. Arteta has already displayed staggering differences, and they happen to be in aspects I personally value and believe key to this clubs future success – and have done for time. The fact you disagree, or dismiss that, is… Read more »

jwl

Receding Hairline – Hiring Arteta was sign that our execs think we are Newcastle level because only lesser teams take a punt on novices, not major clubs like Arsenal.

London gunner

Areta was a very basic football player who passed backwards and sideways non stop.

My worry is our play is emulating his play.

Could still be proven wrong as plenty of average footballers made good managers

Receding Hairline

“Arteta has already displayed staggering differences, and they happen to be in aspects I personally value and believe key to this clubs future success – and have done for time.”

Don”t pass off your “personal values” as facts then and i wouldn’t give a shit.

there is nothing staggeringly different in our play, we have dropped points from winning positions and we are meant to be grateful Spurs did not batter us.

You are boring now, move along.

Radio Raheem

Xabi Alonso is coaching Sociedad’s B side, learning his trade. Arteta is saucier than him, surely 😄

Jamie

Spurs outplayed us though. And it wasn’t particularly close.

They created more chances, took more shots, hit the target more times, completed more passes per defensive action in the opposition half, out xG’d us, had a lower xGA than us, outscored us, conceded fewer than us and took all the points.

We deserved what we got.

Floom

I’m just following on from some comments I saw here from a few Legrovers and they’re so good I wish I wrote them. You build your readership by being a smart Wengerout. As they said, now you’re an AKB. I know you personally from block 11. You’re not thick, why are you now being so pro Arteta. If you’re love for Arteta has made you blind like the AKB’s love made them blind let me put it simple for you Peter. Read and digest – 1) Emery soon realised Lacazette should not start most games Auba should. Arteta loves and… Read more »

Redtruth

Emery’s Arsenal were still above Man Utd and Spurs despite the horrendous start.

Man Utd have markedly improved compared to Arteta’s Arsenal..

Redtruth

Both Spurs and Man Utd were below Arsenal when Emery got sacked, where are they now…

Nelson

It is too early to judge Arteta. He is OJT. His man management and his in game management need improvement. This you’ll only get while managing a team.

Sid

By the end of next week goals for and goals against will be below 1.2 and above 1.5 respectively

You heard it here 1st!

GunnerDNA

“You are defending our worst start in 38 years”

I guess the season finished when Emery was sacked because Arsenal sure ain’t doing any better or we should disregard all that because he’s YOUNG and progressive.

Champagne Charlie

“Don”t pass off your “personal values” as facts then and i wouldn’t give a shit.“ I’ve done none of the above, that’s your backwards interpretation because you’re a bit of a loose fanny when it comes to understanding plain English. Only you would claim no difference in our play and seek perfection in a 17 game sample vs progress. Emery didn’t have a win in his last 7 games, and his last league game required a 96th minute equaliser against a 19th placed Southampton. Spare me the ignorance in going from that output to continually being in winning positions only… Read more »

Upstate Gooner

Arteta on Liverpool: “Financially they had a big backing and made some big signings which completely changed the club in my opinion.”

He is already coming up with excuses as to why he won’t succeed at Arsenal. He knew exactly what he was walking into when he took the job.

prvhc

Pedro For years on this blog you built up Gazidis as the mastermind who was revolutionizing the club behind behind the scenes, only for him to turn out a cowardly moron who ran the club into the found with his incompetence. You’ve not brought him up since then. That was you pushing an agenda based on speculation & without any evidence. You’re doing the same with Arteta. He might turn out a decent coach or indeed a great one if we’re lucky, but we’ve seen nothing on the pitch to substantiate anything. A coach’s job is extremely complicated and it’s… Read more »

andy1886

Yup ‘Pool turned it around on half the net spend of AFC over the same period.

It’s not necessarily how much money but how you spend it.

You’ll hear ‘but, but, sold Coutinho!’ fact is if you invest in the right players that is what can happen. Wenger built title winning sides on money made by buying cheap and selling expensive.

salparadisenyc

The Emery vs Arteta debate rolls on. I will NEVER understand the need to defend Emery. I’d say the same for Arteta if crashes to the ground in similar fashion after 18 months or there about.

We move on.

Nelson

I can predict that Arteta will get more support from traditional Arsenal fan in the future. His style of play is close to Pep and Wenger. I would guess most of the Arsenal fans were attracted to Arsenal because of the style of football. Mou is converting the Spuds to play his game. Do you really like your team to park the bus and goes for long ball attack?

Dissenter

“Xabi Alonso is coaching Sociedad’s B side, learning his trade. Arteta is saucier than him, surely 😄” “It is too early to judge Arteta. He is OJT. His man management and his in game management need improvement. This you’ll only get while managing a team.” ..too early to deify him as well. That’s all Pedro does these days. There’a a pattern here, Pedro puts up the daily Arteta fireworks and CC shows up swinging a bat to keep the blog in line. It’s obvious to most people that he’s just a young manager learning the job on the go, making… Read more »

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Sal
“The Emery vs Arteta debate rolls on. I will NEVER understand the need to defend Emery. I’d say the same for Arteta if crashes to the ground in similar fashion after 18 months or there about.”

I too will never understand why it is necessary to big up Arteta for what he’s not.

azed

Sal

I think the major issue is certain posters (Pedro, CC) said the players were good enough and the fault was with Emery.

Now this same posters are saying don’t judge Arteta until he gets players.
If the players were good enough under Emery, they should be good enough under Arteta.

The same thing happened with buying of players. Before it was Emery wanting average has beens in Banega and Nzonzi, now it’s Raul and Kia signing players Cedric and Luiz

Can’t have one rule for Emery and another for Arteta.

salparadisenyc

Dissenter

Well to be fair thats really yet to be determined.

Jamie

Yes you can, azed. Yes you can.

azed

Ainsley Maitland-Niles has come to the conclusion that the writing is on the wall for for his career at Arsenal & in order to achieve regular 1st team game time he must leave #AFC. Contract to 2023, interest from England + Germany
@TheAthleticUK

CG about to have another meltdown.

Champagne Charlie

Dissenter

Very little to be said about your continued inputs, just a bitchy school girl that fucks off when confronted for any substance. Aspirational stuff.

Champagne Charlie

“Now this same posters are saying don’t judge Arteta until he gets players. If the players were good enough under Emery, they should be good enough under Arteta.“ Azed you’ve had the quality vs composition argument explained to you about 8 times because you seem to always bring it up like it’s never happened. The squad was good enough last year (clearly), it was also good enough this but the elephant in the room finally told (and was sacked). Arteta, like any new manager, deserves to have a summer window to influence a change in the squad to suit him.… Read more »

TR7

Guen, AMN and Holding to be offloaded
while Mustafi, Kola and Xhaka to be retained. Really mindboggling stuff !

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