Oh Serge…

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Oh god Arsene, make it stop, make the bad pictures stop. Serge Gnabry scoring 2 goals at The Bridge last night then tweeting that London was still red, I AM CRYING. Wenger spoke up though.

‘He has no real limitations it’s more how much does he want to suffer,’

‘Because he has pace, power, technical ability, he’s very intelligent, sometimes he looks for the easy way in football. That’s what was his problem. He lacked a bit.

‘I gave him to West Brom, it didn’t work out at all. In fairness I think we had an agreement with him but Bayern stole him away from Werder Bremen.

‘He’s a good player. He has individual ability and collective ability. We had an agreement with him but because he didn’t play at West Brom I let him go with the U21s in the summer with the German national team and he did very well of course. ‘

‘We had prepared him for us to sign his new contract but then suddenly he wanted to go to Werder Bremen. But it was not Werder Bremen that bought him it was Munich that bought him. Because six months or less than one year later he moved from Bremen to Bayern but it was a done deal before’

No limitations? We kept Joel Campbell? We let Theo Walcott stink out the club for ELEVEN YEARS? When all along, Serge had NO LIMITATIONS?

I was told from a good place that the player wasn’t offered a deal until AFTER the Olympics he absolutely smashed up. I was also told that he was utterly horrified by how baffled Wenger was by a change of formation he couldn’t deal with against a pony French team in a preseason game. Still, Pulis had the same opinion, so maybe I’m being harsh? Arsenal were badly run, we just have to move on from that. Bennacer and Malen another two that we let slip during the bad times. Fran Merida too… remember when we hid him in the mountains until he was of age? Sounds kind of, you know, wrong when you look back at it.

I thought the Lucassen interview (good read on his history here) grounded everyone in what a mess we were in. It’s not surprising, Wenger had lost it, if the manager doesn’t know where the club is going, it’s hard to expect people below him to have clarity. I spoke to plenty of people that thought Joncker was a disaster, I wrote about, still doesn’t stop these comments coming across as utterly brutal.

“Before I started, Arsenal had told me that we had to build everything from zero,”

“But when I started the job, I told (Academy boss) Per Mertesacker that this information was not correct.

“We were not starting from zero – but from two below zero!”

This next bit was so perfect because it summed up 10 years of writing about the importance of a footballing philosophy.

“In my first month, I asked 20 different people at the club to describe the so-called ‘Arsenal Way.’

“Everybody spoke about it, but no-one could actually answer my question. Three people just said ‘it’s the passing game.’

“I had worked with other clubs where the objective was for a player to pass the ball to someone else in the same colour shirt, so what was unique about this Arsenal philosophy?

“They had all kind of academy plans, but nothing was based on a proper football philosophy, a playing style, or certain principles.”

I’ve seen people snark at ‘The Arsenal Way’ like it’s not possible to define. I think it was very clear when Wenger first started, however, it became dated because it was never upgraded. I remember Wenger bragging that he hadn’t changed his training in 16 years after taking a beating from Blackburn in a cup. CASE IN POINT BRUH.

Lucassen also went after Unai Emery. The below commentary is for all the people that thought the Spaniard was just a little misunderstood (he was that too because he couldn’t speak English), or badly treated. He was just shite.

“The problem we are dealing with is that the philosophy after the Wenger (above) era has not been developed.

“You can see this in the passing. Players make passes just because they think they have to pass the ball.

Worth noting that Lucassen worked under Ralph Rangnick, so he knows the game. Interesting that he also said Freddie wanted him as his assistant but he was too ill to take the job. He also said most managers are just talk, they don’t know what they are doing, pretty amusing because Emery in interviews (in the press) was an impressive talker… shame he couldn’t convert the theory into action.

Lucassen finished on a positive.

“Bukayo Saka is the best example of what we want at Arsenal.

“He has the potential to become one of the best three wing-backs in the world and I really think Arteta can help in that process.

“Arteta, with his vision, is not far from what we want in the academy.

“Talents like Saka, Reiss Nelson, Eddie Nketiah, Emile Smith-Rowe and Joe Willock should benefit from that.”

You cannot knock it. Saka is so exciting. Young kids breaking into the first team at that level of performance is outstanding. It’s great for the squad, great for the academy, and great for the fans. Hopefully, Edu has some great ideas about how we prop up the academy with the best kids in the world, to complement the work we’ve been doing at a local level. Also, another person saying that Arteta is on the right track.

Right, short post from me today, listen to my podcast, celebrate it with a little fist bump, then give it a 5*.

Thank you so much, I actually love you. x

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  1. Major_Jeneral

    Commitment from the start was not good enough from all players. They started the game as if they are 4-0 aggregate.

    Game management not good enough. And complacency set in again at the crucial periods. Especially Leno over playing it in the 119th min.
    One mistake too many. He took too much liberty by conceding that late corner. Martinez deserves to start in goal.
    Bellerin has lost his confidence to move forward.
    For the manager he will learn from this. Setpiece is definitely arsenal’s Achilles heel. Defending for the corners is not good enough.
    Substitutions was too late. Martinelli did more than most of the lads on the field.

    Today’s game shows why some commenters here have said that the top quality of some players is very suspect and it won’t take the team far.

    In sum Arsenal missed Martinelli’s energy in the first half.

  2. Kay


    I just cant understand why is he persisting with something that very very very much apparant.

    Xhaka and Ozil will cost Arteta s job as well if rhey are not thrown out at this rate.

    Was silly to replace Ceballos with Tor.
    Would have thought he would sub the bug eye and move Ceballos further up the pitch.

  3. Gentlebris

    Martinelli was one of the top scorers of the competition,but you put him on the bench for more than 100 minutes in the knock out stage of the same competition.
    Guen could do a job in that game, but on came Willock.

    You are barely two months in the job but you are already making decisions that are very questionable.

    Emery had his 22 games unbeaten and beat the likes of Valencia and Napoli(in great form)over two legs to reach the final. I’m telling you for free, it will take a long long time before this guy catches Emery’s records, and Emery is an Everton level coach.

    If you think you have a reason to hire a rookie for a job that could even crush a veteran, then you must know that there is another reason other people don’t make that kind of decision.

    A team from Greece knocked Arsenal out of a competition we badly needed to win under a coach that is suppose to take us forward. Think about that tonight.

  4. Leftside

    Where is this easier run of games that this particular Arsenal side are supposed to navigate. We’re not even remotely formidable at home to fall back on and our away woes tell it’s own story. Best to start planning for next season and devising where our goals are going to come from. The one useful player staying is a pipe dream.

  5. Leedsgunner

    We’re so bad in the air. Legacy of years of neglecting height and physicality in favour of flair and supposed technique.

    Naive, really.

    Auba bailed us out, all we needed to do was to see the game out and we couldn’t even do that.

  6. MidwestGun

    New Post.. I didn’t read it.. too depressing. Don’t need to relive that at the moment.

    But y’all can if you want.

  7. Edu me a favour

    “””” Emery , legs up smoking a cigar, with a big I told you so f****** smile written all over his face.””””

    Why ?— Did you not see what happened to us at the end of last season and the beginning of this one

    We lost a game – how does that make emery better ??

  8. Kay


    Agree Laca is shit.
    But Auba got us into the game only at 122.
    Team played a slower version of crab football and wasnt ablw to break down Olymp

  9. SWG

    Still can’t believe we paid £72m for Pepe! He’s garbage.. painfully awkward on the ball and will do whatever it takes to get it on his left peg to play terrible balls

  10. LeMassiveCoq

    All of you lot laying into Leno for giving that final cornet away, watch it again. What else could he do? The real culprit was Xhaka. Xhaka was fucking awful tonight. He gave the ball away over 10 times with wayward passes. He is shit. End of

  11. PieAFC

    We knew it would he an up and down season once Arteta took over.

    I’m just hoping after some losses, he really sees who’s up for the fight and warrants a place at Arsenal football club.

    That’s on the players that is. Lacked any urgency at all today or anything.

    Arteta’s substitutions were poor, but he had to think logically. Had he went gun ho and mustafi pulls his hamstring we’d been down to 10 men.

    We need to learn from that defeat. Big questions have to be asked.

  12. Thotfulofebs

    The players and manager thot it was all over after the first leg… surprise, surprise, it is never over till the job is done over 2 legs… piss poor performance all around including from Arteta.

  13. Pierre

    It shows the fine lines between winning and losing, Aubameyang miss at the end was a killer.

    Also shows that we need a keeper who will dominate his area.

    Also shows we have got stuck in a pattern of play that is too easy to defend against, in that everything has to go out wide.

    Also shows that we are still playing with too much fear through midfield in that no one is prepared to commit a player and take them on.

    Does it show that we miss the movement of Nketiah up front , time will tell .

    Martinelli deserved more time and made a difference when he came on.

    Shit happens , that’s football, out on away goals.

  14. PieAFC

    Tough pill to swallow, but let’s not get carried away.

    Shit happens.

    Need to regroup and pick ourselves up for Pompey away.

  15. G8

    Even if we went through tonight we ain’t going to win the shit..
    Not with this lot!
    Better now than later I suppose
    Arteta should learn now playing the likes of Ozil and Laca the full 90 mins is not going to make his young managerial career any easier!
    Wenger favouritism didn’t work and it is not going to work for him
    Terrible performance by everone tonight and bewildering subs to rub some salt into the wound !
    Leno’s nervy jitters gifting them the corner and Auba s shocking miss at the end optimised the bottle job mentality of this team!

  16. reality check

    Emery got to the final in his first season. But let’s not get carried away. See how that works. See what i did?

  17. Dissenter

    Finally we can get real and pragmatic about our expectations from Arteta.
    He is a young manager [however exciting] who is still learning his trade. He was always going to shit the bed every now and then.
    Maybe now Pedro will stop the endless drum beating

  18. Valentin

    I don’t understand why Arteta reinstated Leno as goalkeeper for the Europa League. With his regular (every 7~8 games) mistakes directly leading to opposition goals, his poor distributions, slow restarts, complete refusal to collect crosses and corners, I would have thought that Martinez had shown more effectiveness than Leno did.
    Tonight was just the culmination of small bad decisions. For the first goal, the centre half scores from 6 yards out on the penalty point without jumping. That means that if Leno has tried to collectect or punch the ball he could have. For the second goal, the corner was avoidable. Just boot the ball away instead of trying to be smart in the last minute of a tie.

  19. Dissenter

    Martinezis notbeter than Leno so stop laying into Leno

    What about all the buffoon players that were slating Emery over and over again?

    I’m sure Arteta is communicating his tactics to them properly.

  20. Valentin


    Leno is a good shot stopper, but he is costing us games. That has been proven times and times again.
    Even in games where he does make a mistake that directly lead to a goal, his poor distribution regularly puts the team on the back foot.
    Leno has been dropped by the German national team, in the meantime Martinez was recalled by the Argentinian team.
    Maybe it is a personal preference, but I hate goalkeepers rooted to their line. When was the last time where Leno was decisive on a high ball at a corner or set pieces?
    The highbline implemented by Arsenal at set pieces is supposed to catch the opposition offside and leave space that the goal keeper can attack the ball. One of the reasons (another is the man marking) we concede goals at set pieces is Leno reluctance to actually impose himself in those circumstances and quite when he tries he flap at the ball. The equaliser conceded at the Emirates against Chelsea is a case in point.

  21. GunnerDNA


    “If you would tell me a new manager would come in and align himself with those players (throw in Mustafi) and I’d have thought you’d be mad”

    If Arteta doesn’t address this in the remaining games this season, he will be sacked early next season. Leno and Pepe getting most of the blame but where was Ozil? I hope the Club force MA to stop playing him because he’s not in any plans going forward. That was humiliating!