Freddie’s Arsenal is worse than we thought

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Arsenal are in trouble, big trouble. Freddie isn’t the man to take us forward, and worse, I think the true rot is at the head of the football side of the business. I have very little faith we’ve hit rock bottom, I think that’ll come when Josh makes deeper cuts than simply the manager.

Freddie Ljungberg, despite the introduction of a suit, couldn’t raise a performance out of players that are totally broken. Our form is so atrocious, we look like relegation fodder. Brighton were the better side. They had a plan, they played for each other, and they genuinely believed they were coming to The Emirates for the 3 points. The tidbit that I found interesting was that Potter had his team dropping GG style offside traps, because VAR now makes that exercise worthwhile. I love that. Very smart.

The task at hand for Freddie is a thankless one, made even more difficult by the fact that he has caretaker in his job title. Deeper than that, I think part of the issue is that Freddie is as deeply entrenched in the malaise at Arsenal football club as Unai. It’s hard to ring in changes when the only difference is an internal promotion and a coach that’s switched from training kit to suit.

The starting 11, for a second game in a row, didn’t fill anyone with any sort of hope. Freddie opted once again for Kolasinac, he left Pepe on the bench, and he played Lacazette, Ozil, and Aubamayeng. He also started Willock again. The football didn’t really look any different, mostly because the players haven’t raised their effort beyond anything they offered Unai Emery. This is no slight on Freddie, but really, Arsenal need a new manager, and we need huge shake-up of the culture.

I know I go on about vision a lot, but having an idea of where you’re going gives people a collective belief that what they are doing has more purpose than just a paycheque. It creates a north star that people can either agree to follow or not. For those that follow, that vision is their higher purpose, the reason you go to war, work through injuries and sacrifice yourself for something spectacular. A great manager instils a culture in service of the vision. A set of expected behaviours or virtues everyone gets behind. We don’t have that at Arsenal, marked by the behaviours of the players on and off the pitch. No one cares, because they don’t have anything to care about.

Sir Alex Ferguson was a master of the winning culture, his vision was so powerful, so exciting, squad players would take half their market value to be a part of it. Jose Mourinho was win at all costs, he instilled fire in his players, it made his team rugged, nasty, horrible to play against… he demanded everyone do their bit, if they did, he’d protect them and deliver them glory (Think Eto’o for Inter). If you didn’t follow his rules, you were out and he’d chargrill you under the flames. Pep G builds his culture around winning the beautiful way. He creates art, he hires in artists, he trains them to think differently, to control territory, he express themselves in his vision, and players go to war for him… who doesn’t want to be an artist? (Jose)

Arsenal haven’t had a vision since Wenger left his soft boy socialist culture behind. Unai took over a spoilt group of players and somehow managed to make them worse. The players had no reason to believe because Emery didn’t know what he wanted from them. Add to that all the additional problems he layered on top with botched leadership votes, throwing players under the bus, pushing Ramsey out the door and countless other microaggressions and you land where we were last night. The players don’t give a fuck because there is nothing to give a fuck about. Freddie ain’t changing that in December.

We are still 10% off the pace, maybe more. Defenders aren’t sprinting back, players are half arsing challenges, our midfield isn’t interested, and there looks to be nasty ruptures in the overall spirit. The lack of leadership on the pitch is embarrassing, but that all stems from the previous two managers.

Freddie can’t save this, he’s not getting the job, and the players know that. Arsenal can’t give him the job until the end of the season, because we’ll be in a relegation fight. They need to hire for January 1st.

Trouble is, the options are very, very unsuitable. Making an ‘ANYONE’ hire could be devastating for the club. We’ll either end up hiring a show pony manager that won’t be good longterm, or we’ll hire in someone from Raul’s Rolodex, and that’ll be fraught with conflicts.

This next move is so, so important. My fear is our shortlist is so fucked, the only chance we have of landing on a good hire is by accident.

Arsenal should have had the shortlist ready in August. We should have known the way we wanted to play, who could deliver that style, and had a plan for refreshing the backroom team. Raul should have fired Emery before the international break and had a manager ready the next day. The fact we didn’t have a plan in place shows you how badly we’re being run. No contingency plan at a top 6 Premier League club that has a turnover of £300m+. Savagely amateur.

The Freddie experiment is doomed to failure. He’s not set up for success, that’s not his fault. The next hire has to be made soon, and my word do we need to make sure it’s not a journeyman or someone that can’t speak the language.

Raul’s reputation has taken a battering, get this next hire wrong and his head will rightly be on the chopping block.

Right, see you in the comments.

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Graham62

Graham Potter, in the space of just 6 months, has transformed B&HA. As you all saw last night, his philosophies and beliefs are geared to promoting fast attractive football.

Those on here who constantly tout all these fancy named foreign coaches, should look a little closer to home when it comes to sourcing a future manager of AFC.

Football is not all about wearing a nice suit and smelling of Armani.

Graham62

Graham Potter, in the space of just 6 months, has transformed B&HA. As you all saw last night, his philosophies and beliefs are geared to promoting fast attractive football.

Those on here who constantly tout all these fancy named foreign coaches, should look a little closer to home when it comes to sourcing a future manager of AFC.

Football is not all about wearing a nice suit and smelling of Armani.

bennydevito

We didn’t move Wenger on in order to bring in Emery. It’s not like the board were like ” we must get rid of Wenger because Emery is the man”.

If Emery was first choice then they wouldn’t have had an 8 man shortlist.

Graham62

Sorry folks, double take.

Marko

You realise we earned a top 4 place with Giroud as our main striker right? That really doesn’t strengthen your point as much as you think it does. Bit puzzled how Laca suddenly needs a sale in your mind at 29, it’s only being talked about with Auba because there’s apparent interest and he’s soon 31. Right and in that interest is an opportunity to address an issue. The issue being short term losing a prolific striker in Auba and long term having to replace Lacazette when he leaves. Charles this conversation comes to an abrupt end when you realize… Read more »

James wood

Got to get rid of Torreira he has his 11 plus coming up.

Mr Serge

It’s Wenger’s fault we are in this mess and the boards by mismanaging our club for 10 years at least anyone that says otherwise is not telling the truth
We need structure and a game plan and organisation from our next manager and that needs to happen right now

Marko

Then again I am be very curious to hear what you and Marc think that our football operations manager is doing because according to you it is not recruitment When there was a head of recruitment what do you think it is that he did? Come on it’s in the title. When he left someone else too over those duties. It was during that time that Saliba was purchased. Again it’s really not hard to get. I’m just surprised that you aren’t crediting Steve Rowley for the signing considering that he was back at Arsenal when Sven left…. according to… Read more »

Marko

Moving Wenger on was a bad move in the context of what has followed

It wasn’t. His replacement not working out doesn’t somehow mean that he still didn’t need replacing. League positioning and football was steadily deteriorating and he was responsible for purchasing poor players I don’t see how keeping him on things would be much different.

Guns of SF

Wenger to Arsenal is like Vader to Star Wars.
The entire story is predicated on their character and how they have shaped their environments.
SO much power they wielded and how they have fallen.
So great they were at one point- they ruled the galaxy and football galaxy

Even after they have gone, they still endure. Good and bad.

Valentin

Marko,

You are still not answering the simple question what do you think Raul does.
Maybe like Nagglesman you don’t speak English.
What does Raul do on a day to day basis?

Champagne charlie

“Charles this conversation comes to an abrupt end when you realize that selling Aubameyang is NOT the only way we can address other areas in the squad“ Marko you’re borrowing some debating cues from Ishola at this point, not once have I said it’s the only way of doing anything. It’s merely the way when a reported deal is in the pipeline….as YOU informed. I’ve not picked Auba as a sacrificial lamb here, simple responding to the apparent interest and saying I’d have the 70 mil and do X with it. I’m quite aware the club can take any manner… Read more »

Marko

Val what does the head of recruitment do? It’s simple what does he do? Another question for you how can someone be responsible for a signing at Arsenal when he’s making signings at Stuttgart?

Marko

Charlie I know you didn’t say it’s the only way but the way that you’re arguing about the possible sale of Aubameyang suggests that you see it that way. Look it doesn’t matter you’d sell Aubameyang to have Lacazette as first choice striker and address other areas while I’d consider Luka Jovic as part of the deal and address other areas.

HighburyLegend

Brenda Rodgers linked with Leceister until 2025….
Thank god Arteta is still available. Lol

Champagne charlie

“Charlie I know you didn’t say it’s the only way but the way that you’re arguing about the possible sale of Aubameyang suggests that you see it that way“ Complete nonsense. Everything I’ve said about Auba is speculating purely on what you’ve stated is being touted as possible. You’ve now decided to apply your own take, and you’re a mile off. “Look it doesn’t matter you’d sell Aubameyang to have Lacazette as first choice striker and address other areas while I’d consider Luka Jovic as part of the deal and address other areas.“ How does that play out exactly? Where’s… Read more »

Un na naai

I make you right chuck
Flog auba and spend the money elsewhere.
Unless Haaland becomes available.
We are stocked up front. What we need is creativity and solidity

Valentin

Marko, Again showing that you have a problem with understanding the concept of timeline. I am trying to explain in simpler term. The 2012 Olympic were attributed to London in July 2005 when Ken Livingston was mayor of London. Yet when the Olympic games took place in 2012, somebody else did the opening ceremony, because Boris Johnson was then mayor of London. So you see, somebody did all the work and bidding, but somebody else stood in front of the TV during the big ceremony. Timeline. Same thing with Saliba recruitment. Sven did all the donkey work, but Raul attended… Read more »

Gentlebris

“There is no more important factor in the demise of Arsenal than Arsene Wenger’s vice like grip on power.” Wenger was trusted to make decisions for the club, he was trusted to be the main man, and you can’t blame him for not throwing the responsibility away. Vice like grip on power? He had no such means, the owner lifted a finger and Wenger left. One of the attributes of a big guy is to always be ready to accept it when you make a wrong call. Wenger loved Arsenal. He was getting paid good money but he was also… Read more »

Marko

Where’s the gain from having Auba/Laca, to Jovic/Laca?

It’s less of a gain more of a not getting significantly weaker. Think about it this way right now Auba goes who replaces his goals?

Marko

The 2012 Olympic were attributed to London in July 2005 when Ken Livingston was mayor of London. Yet when the Olympic games took place in 2012, somebody else did the opening ceremony, because Boris Johnson was then mayor of London. So you see, somebody did all the work and bidding, but somebody else stood in front of the TV during the big ceremony. Timeline.Same thing with Saliba recruitment. Sven did all the donkey work, but Raul attended the big signature. There are no words for you. Selective about the signings Sven made and giving him credit for a signing he… Read more »

Champagne charlie

“Think about it this way right now Auba goes who replaces his goals?“

Marko I’m not continuing to flog what’s already been said, it’s all there.

David Smith

For all wengers faults, and good points, he was tactically poor, but he could manage players, and also those above him. And his team didn’t lose at home to Brighton. And he would never have taken us to a threat of relegation, this bunch might.
There should have been much more planning with wenger, and Emerys departure.
Those in charge of the club need to take a look at themselves, if they don’t want a Leeds scenario that is.

Marc

Fuck me I said earlier that Valentin was running a “Sven signed Saliba” line.

If Saliba doesn’t work out he’ll run away faster from the claim than the French Army from the Germans.

bennydevito

Because we’re in dire straits and we need to rediscover our swing…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5wDuAiryCA

Marc

On a serious note why is the signing of Lich attributed to Sanllehi when Sven was Head of Recruitment?

Where are the unknown Diamonds he’s supposed to be renowned for? Are Pepe, Tierney or Martinelli Sven signings?

Marc

benny

Maybe you should have put up Brother’s in Arms. Fantastic song and what we should be at the moment!

Marko

Marc yeah I personally don’t know how someone can attribute the poor signings under Sven as head of recruitment to someone else and then attribute the best looking signing of last summer to someone who was working for a different club since April. Odd to say the least

China1

Hillwood you must be as old as the real hillwood hehe!!

I still think vinyl is witchcraft tho. Amazing technology

Marc

China

I’d stay away from VHS then!

China1

Your mam was a Sven signing

Oooooooooh!

….

Sorry. I’ll get my coat

China1

I love vhs.

Actually I love all retro tech. It’s magical

bennydevito

Benny
Yes we did, Emery became our manager after Wenger. We sacked Wenger for Emery, that’s literally how it transpired. You’re not grasping the nature of what’s being criticised if you’re hitting me with that tat about us having an 8-man shortlist blah blah.

>>>>>>

CC,

So you’re seriously saying that the board sacked only sacked Wenger so they could hire Emery? That whilst Wenger was still in post they identified Emery, sounded him out, he said yes, they then fired Wenger to make way for Emery?

Wow.

That’s really not how it happened man.

China1

Cassette tapes… old cars… Mac OS 9… the ps1… ww2 planes… anything really. Old tech is so cool

bennydevito

Marc,

Actually I nearly did put up brothers in arms but I thought something a bit more upbeat was needed.

Marc

Marko Sven might have put Saliba on our radar I don’t have a problem with that – on the other hand I’m not trying to run an agenda. When you break down a list of the players signed whilst Sven was with the club – Mavropanos, Torreira, Guendozi, Auba, Sokratis, Lich, Miki and Leno – there’s clearly some where he had previous with a player and the younger signings are questionable / jury out. There’s then a few that were well known enough to be classed as on the radar of other clubs etc. There’s nothing to say at the… Read more »

Marko

Exactly. But I don’t know how you can give him credit for Saliba. It doesn’t matter even if he did (not proven) point us in his direction he didn’t sign him. Same way he didn’t sign Soyuncu and same way he didn’t sign Arne Maier.

Marc

benny

The rift from Brother’s in Arms sends chills up my spine.

It’s one of those songs where tempo is irrelevant.

alexanderhenry

China

‘Old tech is so cool’.

It is.
Still got my vinyl.

Valentin

Marc,

Reverting to type.
Usual xenophobic troll.

Again proving my point commenting on other people’s opinion.

Champagne charlie

Benny

Yes, that’s exactly what I said. You’ve followed along brilliantly as usual.

Valentin

The mean girl act Marc and Marko still hurt of having been Emery main cheerleaders. Still can’t state what Raul is actually doing at Arsenal. BTW I never said that Sven was responsible for Martinelli or Pepe. Sven is known for his analytical scouting in Europe. I doubt that he had a raft of data on Brazilian 4th division. Old fashion talent spotting is responsible for Martinelli. For Pepe, all of Europe knew about him. That’s why he ended up at Arsenal… But soon you will blame Sven for David Luiz arrival. Raul said in his two part interview that… Read more »

Marko

Again proving my point commenting on other people’s opinion.

You were literally shit talking him earlier you idiot

Valentin

Benny,

The club literally had a year to find a replacement for Wenger and all they could muster is Emery.
Having been caught once, you would think that they would be better prepared, but no it is even worse. They have less time to find the right man, but the club is falling off the cliff making it less attractive to top coaches.
So yes sacking Wenger may have been the right thing to do, but sacking him without a proper plan put in place was definitely the wrong thing to do.

Marko

The club literally had a year to find a replacement for Wenger

🙄

Valentin

Marko,

Again problem with timeline.
Still avoid answering the question.
What does Raul do according to you?

Marko

Again problem with timeline.

Fucking eh man but I’ll help you out. April of his final season was when it was announced that we wanted him gone. So try a couple months not a year. You have a real problem with truth telling son

Bojangles

157,432 comments this year. Been quite a few more if you stop deleting mine.

“I fully agree that a change was sorely needed but it had to be for someone better than Wenger. Not worse.”

Un na, as far as you are concerned there isn’t a better manager than Wenger so how was we ever going to find a replacement.

Some of you guys must have a direct line to God judging by your comments about the happenings inside Arsenal and stating them as facts.

That Dreamcast Kid

good to see the choirboys not going out doing degenerate NPC stuff getting shitfaced on Friday night instead they are having battle of wits for the sake of their club and I off course thank PedRo for giving us that platform hahahha enough of CG schizo shit from me sorry all Let me get this straight we were going somewhere with Sven the Diamond Eye but the bullshit power play he’s gone now we’re back with Gazidis Mk II equipped with rolodex. The geriatric players are just supposed to be short term contigency plan to stabilise things before moving on… Read more »

China1

The club wanted wenger to stay until April or so.

Let’s not pretend it was any other way. He’d only just signed a new contract…

Moray

https://metro.co.uk/2019/12/06/arsenal-fans-turn-pierre-emerick-aubameyang-abusing-joe-willock-misplaced-pass-brighton-defeat-11280654/

So now apparently fans are on Auba’s back for berating Willock for a misplaced pass. Pathetic.

It seems the Colney crèche mentality extends to fans.

Anyone who wants to know what made the Invincibles great should listen to the carragher podcast with Thierry. The will to win meant proving yourself, fear of failure and not being congratulated every hour like a fucking millennial.

Tony

Guns of SF Were you a Dead Kenedys fan? Americas answer to British punk? That was one genre that I never really liked. Preferred America’s/Washington’s grunge scene with Nirvana, Green Day, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains et al. Punk often with melodies but both Pun k & Grunge driven by Heroin. Great time to be around the northern west coast area in the 80s. Back in the day when bands really put huge shows on ala Pink Floyd, Genesis ELO etc. Sadly something the millennial will never witness. One of the few artists today to put on a big… Read more »

Tony

Meanwhile …………… Unless you are an Arteta fan where the useless undecided board (useless paper figureheads) have no idea what to do and are considering Carlo who lost his mojo long time ago or NES the super agent route. Neither will work! I’m at the stage where with our suits I’m no longer hoping they make the right decision for the best for the football, our club and brand. So with the above choice we should go for Arteta and if we end up relegated the current suits will be gone and a new era can begin in The Arsenal’s… Read more »

Tony

If Auba wants too go, sell him to help with the rebuild. Martinelli and other youth players can step up to fill Auba’s void and take his penalties that make up his numbers.

Auba is a a one dimensional fox in the box player offering very little elsewhere on the pitch.

Move Lacazette, Ozil, Xhaka, Mustafi, Papa Sok, Luiz, AMN and Bellerin on as well and really start the rebuild.

If Raul & Edu are clueless about scouting, they should talk to posters here, such as Cesc Appeal, Marko and Freddie L.

Tony

“Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang ‘pulls out of talks with Arsenal over a contract extension… and the captain is ready to quit Emirates next summer’

The Gabon international is ready to quit the Gunners after a poor season

There are worries Arsenal will have to do without Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang

The 30-year-old enters the final year of his contract in the summer and is stalling
Aubameyang is growing increasingly frustrated at the team’s lack of trophies”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7765949/Pierre-Emerick-Aubameyang-pulls-talks-Arsenal-contract-extension.html

Tony

Ruiz or Joshua?

Tony

If Joshua goes toe to toe in a slug fest, Ruiz will win.

If Joshua keeps the fight to technical point scoring boxing, then Joshua should win over the tubby burrito. (not so tubby now). lol

Either way it’ll be a good fight to watch.

Alex Cutter

“Guns of SF Were you a Dead Kenedys fan? Americas answer to British punk?That was one genre that I never really liked. Preferred America’s/Washington’s grunge scene with Nirvana, Green Day, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains et al. Punk often with melodies but both Pun k & Grunge driven by Heroin. Great time to be around the northern west coast area in the 80s.Back in the day when bands really put huge shows on ala Pink Floyd, Genesis ELO etc. Sadly something the millennial will never witness .One of the few artists today to put on a big show is… Read more »

Tony

Blast from there past:

Ian Gillan _ Child in Time

Studio album version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwkJo9_c3fM

Live 1977:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdcFRCoXPYo

Guns of SF

Tony

Punk is British
Grunge is American

Most posters on here are milenials and have no clue. Their loss

I’m up to date with current as I have a 13 and 9 year old

Enjoy artists like post Malone and 5 sos etc
They keep me current

I have Sirius satellite radio in my x5 so I’m good!

I love the clash tho. The heavy reggae beats of guns of Brixton- one of my fave songs of all time

Guns of SF

https://youtu.be/GuDT_9s1o8s

The dirty reggae beat is just sick. Classic this

Induct14

Raul doesn’t fires. He had to go to the Kreonke to do Emery. But I believe we need a proper coach though.

Tony

I hear you Guns, at 64 my daughter 21 and son 11 also keep me current and to be fair I like a lot of today’s music, especially The Weekend, Ed Sheered (saw in BKK with the family) and many more, but I’m not a fan of RAP other than say PM Dawn melodic styles and the odd Eminem track. Liked The Clash but was more of a Stranglers guy. x5? Sonos? Loved all types of reggae from Jamaican blue beat ska to certain types of Dub and was backstage for Bob Marley’s Hammersmith Palais gig where a security guy… Read more »

Bojangles

If you want to listen to good music, you can’t go past Pink Floyd

https://youtu.be/QrWZNAQrkf4

Rambo Ramsey

“The Blu-ray is excellent and brilliant to play in my gym when doing 10km in a mild form of HITCV, such as 60% of max HR for 3 minutes then 1 minute of between 80% to 90% max HR close monitored on my iWatch and data collected on my iPhone Health app for my heart team when I go for biyearly check ups.”

Give us deatils on the clothes you were wearing also, why don’t you

Guns of Hackney

I’d sell Auba in jan. £60m. Yes please. Overrated. Andy Cole mk2.

Un na naai

Guns

Andy cole offered great movement off the ball and assisted plenty
Could hold it up and play with his back to goal

I’d take Cole all day over Aubameyang.
Finally everyone is starting to see what he really is. Only took two bloody years

Bojangles

I am feeling that our next coach may be one of Pedro’s saucy boys and I don’t mean Arteta.

Poch was interviewed in Argentina recently and when asked about the Arsenal vacancy he apparently smiled and was non-committal but stated that he would be back in London next week and would be seeking employment.

Not my choice but beggars can’t be choosers as is often said.

Bob N16

If we can get good money for PEA sell. End of trying to squeeze him and Laca in same line up, Pepe and Martinelli get consistent game time. Money hopefully can be spent wisely, with the agreement of new coach, on an athletic, all purpose DM.

Un na naai

Just as I said at the time
Luiz and Ceballos have been utter disasters
Ceballos can be forgiven to an extent but Luiz has been fucking atrocious
It was always a bad deal. Koscielney was and is a much much better defender

Bojangles

FFS Un Na, you get onto something and you can’t let it go. You think Nkiteah is going to jump into Auba’s spot when he goes to RM?

Bob N16

Bojangles, if we were to sell PEA we then could have Lacazette as first choice CF, with Martinelli and Nketiah as back up. Saka and Nelson could provide cover out wide. This season has gone down the proverbial shitter and we should blood youth giving them an opportunity to gain experience.

Next summer we can clear out the long list of below standard players and bring in the necessary quality at CB and CM.

Un na naai

Take the captaincy off Aubameyang and give it to Holding
Drop Luiz and Aubameyang
Flog the gapped toothed wanker ASAP
He’s poison

Un na naai

BojanglesDecember 7, 2019 08:28:30
FFS Un Na, you get onto something and you can’t let it go. You think Nkiteah is going to jump into Auba’s spot when he goes to RM?

Bo
Don’t be ridiculous. We’ve got Lacazette, Martinelli and Pepe
Aubameyang slows the game down. Fuck all movement for counter attacks and loses the ball nearly every time he gets it outside of the area
He offers nothing but a final touch and ONLY against shit teams. Never when the heat is on

Graham62

BobN16

Good morning.

We’ve been saying “Next summer we can clear out the long list of below standard players” for several seasons.
The problem is, no one wants to buy our substandard players or we give them away on the cheap.

It’s so frigging depressing.

Guns of Hackney

Un

Mate. I never rated Auba. I was sceptical that no other serious club went in for him. Always a red flag for me.

Bojangles

I’m all for Auba leaving if he doesn’t want to stay (can understand that too, he wants CL football before he retires and he’s not getting it here.) But who else do we have that can score 25-30 goals per season. The guy can sit on the pitch and pick his nose for all I care so long as he’s scoring goals. We really would be pin the relegation zone without him up to this point.

Un na naai

Guns

Real Madrid are after him no though. But yeah I agree. Bad attitude. Doesn’t offer enough to warrant such arrogance

Un na naai

Bo

Then you clearly aren’t noticing how he negatively impacts our play.

Ishola70

lol Don is upset at Auba because he had a go at his boy Willock.

Gentlebris

‘ The guy can sit on the pitch and pick his nose for all I care so long as he’s scoring goals.’

Yeah, he taps in one, lazy around when the pressure begins, we leak two. 2-1, Arsenal lose, great Auba.

Bojangles

Un Na, if you are concerned about players who negatively impact our play at the club there are many there who offer less than Auba to zero in on.

Graham62

Look at it from the point of view of both Auba and Lacazette.

They have been involved in a dysfunctional system that doesn’t provide them with an adequate service.

Two different players but both essential assets if we are going to get out of this mess.

Without them, we are fudged.

James wood

Morning
Cole was good but I would take
Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink over
him or our current crop.
Mane has to be right up there.?

Ishola70

Luiz is the massive problem for Arsenal atm.

Have to laugh at some of the fanbase though.

They clap everything Xhaka does now because of guilt and they campaigned for the return of Mr Fanny aka Mesut Ozil.

Gentlebris

‘Fuck all movement for counter attacks and loses the ball nearly every time he gets it outside of the area
He offers nothing but a final touch and ONLY against shit teams. Never when the heat is on’

Spot on.

Ishola70

Let’s not pretend that Lacazette doesn’t disappoint as well especially in those away matches.

Lacazette’s impact in away matches is very disappointing.

Ishola70

There won’t be a debate about Auba or Lacazette.

They will both be out of the door because of the team failing.

Guns of Hackney

I have a terrible feeling we will throw the kitchen sink at Auba. Like a £300kpw mega fuck up.

Regret city.

I’ve realised I’m actually closer to Leicester than Arsenal. I’m switching clubs.

Gentlebris

‘Two different players but both essential assets if we are going to get out of this mess.’ No Graham, both are really limited players. Mane is bigger than them both. Buy a good young talented striker and play him with Martinelli, Eddie could come in and play backup. And honestly, I prefer having Martinelli on the pitch than any of those two. Auba can’t take the ball outside the box and be lethal with it, when the pressure begins, he can’t hold the ball to ease some of the pressure. And he even failed two tap ins against Brighton. Are… Read more »

Gentlebris

‘They clap everything Xhaka does now because of guilt ‘

Would you kick a fallen man in the ribs, Ishola?

Ishola70

Gentlebris

“Are you aware of how many sitters Auba has missed in Arsenal colours?”

This is quite common tbh in many strikers that notch up good numbers.

They miss as many as they score and sitters as well.

Apparently Vardy has the best conversion rate to chances in the league.

Ishola70

Gentlebris

“Would you kick a fallen man in the ribs?”

Fallen man?

He missed a few matches.

Graham62

Gentlebris

“Mane is bigger than both of them”

Of course he is but that’s mainly because he’s playing for a great team with great players around him. Consequently he can relax and do what he does best.

Do Auba and Lacazette have that luxury?

Of course they don’t.

Psychology plays a massive role in players showing their strengths and weaknesses and although Auba and Laca are not Mane, they would look at damn sight better if they were playing in a structured and proactive system.

What do you think?

Dream10

Aubameyang is well clear of Lacazette as a player and goalscorer. Ppl seem to giving Lacazette more credit for his all around play and his “fighting spirit” to compensate for his lack of ability to generate a high shot total and his limitations in making off the ball runs. Good player, but no where near top standard.

Un na naai

BojanglesDecember 7, 2019 08:51:58
Un Na, if you are concerned about players who negatively impact our play at the club there are many there who offer less than Auba to zero in on.

Bojangles
Yes and I want Mustafi, Luiz and ozil gone too but do t forget that
1) Aubameyang is worth £60-£70m
2) he’s a wanker
3) he’s 31 in 6 months
4) he prevents more attacks than he scores goals.
5) he’s now causing disharmony

Dream10

Can already see the club selling Aubameyang in January (wouldn’t be oppose to it if we got young forwards into the team) then giving Lacazette a brand new deal and dressing it up as a win. Sell him in the summer

Bob N16

Graham,

Ozil and Mustafi will be easier to ‘give away’ with only a year left off their contracts this Summer. The rest of the players, the list is debatable, could be sold for reasonable money. I would imagine Luiz would be the most difficult to shift.

Un na naai

en giving Lacazette a brand new deal and dressing it up as a win. Sell him in the summer

Dream
Yeah £350k pw should do it

Un na naai

Bob
We should never ever have gone for him. Better to give a youngster a go
Wouldn’t have been any worse and saved us £21m