You can analyse incidents in isolated moments or you can spread them across time to paint a clearer picture of what’s going on
Granit Xhaka; jeered and booed by his own fans, on the face of it looks like a horrifying moment. I don’t like it when we boo our own, I found it disgusting when folk in my stand used to do it to Theo Walcott, I find it embarrassing when they do it now.
However, it’d be unwise to cast this as a ‘bad fans / sad indictment of the social media generation’ type of incident.
Simply put, Granit Xhaka has been one of the worst signings of the past decade. He has never been well-liked by the fans and for good reason. He’s not built for the league, he has consistently been one of the most error-prone players in the squad, and he’s not a leader.
Unai Emery was so petrified of his decision to award a bang average player the armband, he waited until September, then leaked a sham captains election to solidify his skinny case for the defence.
Xhaka is a tactical liability for Arsenal. Not only that, he’s also demonstrated a real lack of leadership this season. This was him after his embarrassing Spurs mistake.
“We had a lot of chances, but this is football, nobody speaks about the chances, about how many we missed, always they speak about mistakes. That’s a part of football.”
This is our captain after the Watford game.
‘“We were scared in the second half. We knew they would come at us and push us hard but we have to show more character and not be scared.’
Scared? Can you imagine Tony Adams going on the record with such a stark admittance?
This is Xhaka after being jeered, presumably for slow-walking when we’re chasing 3 points at home to Crystal Palace.
He appeared to mouth ‘fuck off’ twice to the fans. Say what you will about how it must feel to be booed, that sort of response is not cool. You represent the badge and the fans are all that matters to your standing. He could have turned that moment on its head if he’d been smart, but instead, he played into the circus, now he’s on the backfoot.
He can’t even fall back on the decision being a poor one.
60 minutes of Xhaka on the pitch, Palace completed 219 passes, had 4 shots on target. Arsenal had 7 attempts, 3 on target (2 from corners).
30 minutes of Xhaka off the pitch, Palace completed 39 passes. Had 0 shots o target off 2 attempts. Arsenal had 8 attempts, 3 on target. We also had a fair goal disallowed.
It is not in debate whether he is good for the team. We are better with Xhaka on the bench. Baffling that Emery is only just realising this, but he is. He took his captain off on 69 minutes against Sheffield United, then removed the Swiss on 60 minutes today… which is a real fuck-you-very-much move.
Now the manager has a really tough decision to deal with. He has Mesut Ozil sitting in the stands for reasons he can’t disclose, but he did give us this.
“Here we have one agreed strategy as a club and a team. Because the most important thing is the club, the team and finding a performance.”
I am completely game for brutal decision making in the world of elite-level sport, you just have to be consistent. The manager made Mesut Ozil one his five captains in September, then he bombed him into exile, apparently because he’s poor in training. If it’s performance, I can get onboard with that, but you have to be consistent. Granit Xhaka almost never gives us a performance, fans were complaining that he was a 6 out of 10 today because that’s a good day in the office. If poor performances are an issue, why does Granit seem to be immune to the bench? There has to be consistency. Additionally, telling the fans to fuck off is presumably not a good look for Emery or exec leadership?
I also think we need to talk about the manager’s general performance. Palace completed more passes than Arsenal up until 55 minutes. A team that treats ball like an ebola grenade, completing more passes than us, in our backyard? It’s abhorrent to think that our game has sunk to those depths. Emery is destroying our identity on the pitch, he chips away a little of our pride in every outing, and we don’t even have results to show for it.
We have very little squad stability. The Mesut story is totally out of control, now we have a captain that just pushed the nuclear button on live TV, and we’re floundering in the league. Things are so bad, no one is paying attention to the fact our two star strikers are heading into the ‘we have to sell’ moment in their deals. Auba is final year next summer, Lacazette is at the point where he’d be sold if we take Raul at his word.
This situation we’re in is going to get worse. We haven’t hit the bottom yet, but believe me, we’re going to find it. Our plan is Champions League football. We seem to be betting on a manager with no vision to deliver that. We’re in ‘get it over the line’ mode. That’s not a real plan. We should be investing in a footballing philosophy we can build around. Emeryball is not that. His style of football a dog with wheels for back legs trying to climb the stairs. One step forward, 3 back.
The club needed to invest in a vision. We should have done that when we replaced Arsene Wenger. Find a young coach with an attachment to the fans. Map the coach to the vision of football you want to see. Build the backroom team around that. Sign players that fit the mold for the style you want. That coach could have been Freddie, Paddy, or Arteta. The plan Chelsea are activating is what a lot of us wanted when we replaced Wenger. They’ve set the bar low, told the fans this season is about the kids, and they’ve hired someone exicting they already love. Chelsea might not make the top 4 this season, but Frank Lampard is a young coach with an attachment to locals, one they’ll give time to, and one that believes in good football. He already has his kids playing better than Arsenal.
If we’d take that approach, could it really have been any worse than a sauceless manager that shipped out Ramsey, binned Mesut Ozil after making him captain, made Granit Xhaka captain, and gave us anti-football? It’s so sad, fans are clamouring for Jose Mourinho. Think about that.
So a point against Palace. We’re tanking our easy games. If you’re honest, we were lucky against Burnley and Villa. Not a single good performance this season. It’s bad. It’s only the beginning. Wait until December. Emery is an out and out disaster.
See you in the comments.
Going back to the disallowed goal.
https://streamable.com/sg3t2
It’s a total joke if they deem chambers challenge as an infringement.
However, the VAR mob could have saved themselves a whole lot of criticism if they had just deemed Lacazette offside (which he was) when chambers touched the ball.
On the above link at 1.13 it shows Lacazette in an offside position if it was in fact chambers who toe poked the ball.
Bamford nothing has happened to me
The powers that be can decide to give him more time – deserved
They can decide they want to go a new direction- also fair
I am just sick of individual errors being swept under the carpet, because some have the coach to blame for everything. I want him gone and someone they want employed so when they come here with moans about the same players making the same errors i will be ready
Pierre
You really do deserve a special award.
“Chambers could of..”
“Ref should of…”
“var idiots…”
Who’s the idiot?
Receding
Oh, I see. I misread what you were saying, I guess. I get it; I get your frustration. But this lot will never see reason. They are not capable of it.
Graham
He needs to speak to a professional. That’s what he needs.
We all know that VAR, if used professionally, is a great tool but the powers that be are cocking it up for everyone.
As long as Mike riley is head of PGMOL , arsenal will find it hard to win.
Oh well, off to work.
So quick review of the morning .
1. VAR is shite.
2. Xhaka is shite.
3. Ozil is shite.
4. Emery is shite.
All sorted then.
There is an “old fashioned maxim” that the customer is always “right” even if he is wrong.
Sadly we have got a situation at Arsenal that everyone knows that something is wrong but no-one least of all the senior management and head coach knows how to put it right.
I made the case last week that Arsenal did not deserve to win a single game this season in the EPL. We have now played 10 games and we are “lucky” to
be in 5th place with 15 points!!
Bam
‘. But it does explain why you have long been such a prick to me on here.’
Nothing explains your behaviour towards most people on here though.
My mistake 16 points.
It is November 5th next week.
Bring back Guy Fawkes to sort out mess in Parliament AND at Arsenal.
I get a good laugh reading the comments made during the game with my morning coffee (VN Produces some of the best coffee in the world, you should try it if you have the opportunity to do so.) What I find difficult to get my head around is, during every pl match this season, some 80% of our players are called out as being shit. At some point after the game we are told the players are not to be blamed for the debacle on the pitch. Can someone explain how the players can not take any blame if 80%… Read more »
VAR is dominating the discussion on BBC sport this morning and a fair amount of it is sympathetic towards us.
Also talk of whether it was implemented too soon or whether it should be limited to offside decisions ie situations which either are or not, definitive and not subjective.
Ornstein: There is now an acceptance that after a year and a half in the job and with the benefit of significant backing in the transfer market last summer, there is not much more the club can do and the onus is on Emery to deliver.
I don’t know if anyone else watches hockey but I like the way they do video reviews. You can hear the match official discussing the incident with the video referee and coming to an agreement between them. Also has to be said things can still go wrong in sports which have had video reviews for years and years. Last years NFC match between the Rams and Saints for example in NFL. The Saints were pretty much robbed of a Super Bowl appearance due to the most blatant personal foul/pass interference you will ever see, missed by the ref standing right… Read more »
At this point wikileaks should help us and expose Mike riley’s bias against arsenal by exposing instructions to the referees to the public because decisions going against arsenal at the moment suggest their could be match fixing in the EPL
Winordie
I have been saying the same for years and was laughed at by many on here for my views , saying I was just trying to defend wenger.
The know nothing’s hatred for Wenger never allowed them to see the obvious, that we were continually hindered by poor refereeing decisions.
They have changed their tune now though.
Winordie, we have been on the end of poor decisions for sometime. Often the authors of our misfortune, but not helped in the way some are. Btw, that was the 4th time Atkinson has refereed an Arsenal game already this season, combine that and the baffling VAR decision-just saying.
Seems Emery is safe for now, not like our board to actually react to something going very wrong.
Luiz was shocking for the second goal yesterday
A simply unacceptable error for a player of his quality. Chambers was caught out of position granted but what Xhaka did in the guise of attempting to block the cross was pathetic.
Ozil getting the stick even when he is not playing. Whos the moron? I wonder.
Anyways loved the Guendouzi spear on zaha potentially winning us 1 point. And then the always calm Auba and the emotional Laca backing Guendouzi (their lil bro) against the Palace onslaught. These are the leaders we want not a crybaby captain cussing the Arsenal faithful.
Does any1 here have the athletic subscribed? If yes what are the bullet points from the Ornstein column.
In a PR battle when you decide to lie all the people on your side are supposed to be on it and help you spread the lie. Otherwise you look like an idiot and the Recipient of the lie like a victim.
Clearly somebody forgot to inform the Arsenal media team that Özil was terrible in training. They kept releasing training video where you could clearly see that Özil was working hard. One of the latest released before the game is hilarious because one of the Spanish assistant can be heard Congratulating Özil “Special”, “Great”, …
Emery will be sacked shortly; I believe by January Freddie will be in charge until the end of the season.
Watch this space as I have a funny feeling Mourinho is being lined up behind the scenes.
Never since Rioch’s reign have we seen an Arsenal team look so bland. The end is nigh
In the last 10 seasons ( including this one) for penalties conceded , Arsenal have been in the top 6 in 8 of the ten seasons , and top in 3 of the last ten seasons .
For a team that normally has 60%+ possession in matches , it is a clear indication of the bias against Arsenal.
To put it into context , tottenham are in the top TEN only twice during this period and have been bottom of the league for penalties conceded twice.
WinOrDie, What was shown during the Calciopo investigation was that Corruption does not need instructions or transfer of money. Referees there knew that they needed to favour Juventus to get the plum assignments, so without any prompting some started to favour Juventus. During one of the recording, one of Juventus director was heard complaining about the excess zeal of the referee which could signal trouble for them. Here every referee knows that favouring ManUtd and screwing Arsenal will please Mike Riley who decide if the assignments. The smart referees know what to do without being asked to, so There is… Read more »
Ornstein’s take is an interesting one:
Players rallying around their popular captain
Torreira almost in tears at the abuse Xhaka was getting
Supporters not supporting their team
Everything ‘fraying’
Emery got his work cut out
Wondering how players affected by lack of unified support
Emery responsible for allowing captaincy issue to grow
China It’s not even in that contest. Most Arsenal fans attending games have shown time and time they are tools. They rile up a player, when he reacts they bay for blood. They did it with Adebayor, Nasri, Mustafi, Eboue. They succeeded in shattering confidences. Emery, while saying Xhaka will be punished should have sternly reminded fans to stop booing their players. I used to play football locally, do you know what support does to a player that is not even skilled? Or what booing does to same player? It’s huge. Xhaka tries. Always gives 100percent, works and works. He’s… Read more »
David Smith I was at yesterday’s match which was not televised and therefore camera coverage was very limited. Most people around me in the ground were very concerned about some of the poor referee decisions particularly in second half. What you don’t see are the number of occasions that CP players collapsed to the ground with very dubious free kicks awarded. When Arsenal players were fouled and in some cases cynically the referee ignored the incidents or failed to give a yellow card. You can see several occasions where the Arsenal manager and coaches are remonstrating with the fourth official… Read more »
This Ornstein geezer.
Was he in the dressing room?
He thinks Torreira was almost in tears based on the abuse Xhaka was getting.
That’s his interpretation.
“Ornstein: There is now an acceptance that after a year and a half in the job and with the benefit of significant backing in the transfer market last summer, there is not much more the club can do and the onus is on Emery to deliver”
I hope this isn’t remotely true, Emery sacked or not our first 11 is still short of at least 3 players (not including Saliba) we need at least 1 or 2 of them in January to try and rescue this shitshow, a Xhaka replacement would be nice as a start.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50201291
Me and Pedro been saying it from day one. This man is actually a fraud.
See the same tactics from opponents, which invariably work, game in game out ES. Constant tilting in favour of the other team, must really frustrate our players and coaches. Add yesterday’s decisions to the non decisions against Bournemouth and Sheff Utd, where they refused to check VAR for fear we might actually be given something known as a penalty. I have never seen or heard of VAR overturning a refs decisions to the extent of yesterday. Mike Riley should be dismissed , he goes against IFAB guidelines for VAR but won’t tell anyone why he is,, according to some ex… Read more »
Emery has made the team worse after the best summer transfer window in living memory. That alone justifies his sacking. Emery Out!
Bam “OK, let’s say three months”
Oh no, Bam. I would miss you!
Graham, he was referring to Torreira holding his arms out to some ‘as if to say ‘what the hell is this?’ to the crowd who were giving Xhaka abuse, Bellerin went over to console him when he could see that he was really upset about the treatment a teammate was getting.
I must admit I do feel uncomfortable reading this.
“The players are of course entirely to blame for the outcome. They are professionals and should not have allowed what was going on to affect their
performance.”
This is the line I often don’t get. They are professional HUMAN BEINGS, not robots. You know, feelings, emotions, reactions. You can’t take that out of a human being.
Bob
Ok, fair enough but maybe there’s also a part of Torreira thinking, “I’ve had enough of all of this, I want to go home”
“Jarred Gillett was the VAR official for Arsenal’s clash with Palace. A 32-year-old Australian, Gillett has never taken charge of a Premier League game, with his refereeing experience in England limited to nine Football League fixtures.”
No other comment required, except a big lol.
And Gillett is probably a big fan of tottenshit.
Was just going to post the same thing HL.
Look
When teams now score they might as well not celebrate, instead just stand there till the the fee and his posse of var twTs have checked.
Then let’s see if fans cheer when it’s approved.
Football is fast becoming a stale flavourless cold meal.
Ornstein also reveals in a separate article that there were eight in the short list for the job: Allegri, Arteta, Henry, Lopetegui,Rangnick, Sampaoli, Vieira.
Arteta was closest but his inexperience and lack of supporting team were held against him.
He also feels that Emery may well last the season but it’s felt he’s been supported sufficiently for him to reach his targets. However there is a’feeling that Freddie could do a caretaker role ( at least) but ‘ currently that is not an active consideration’.
They can scapegoat this guy, sack him and nobody would care about him. Just a drop in the sea of nobodies. They gonna appoint another nobody to take the blame next time they decide to forcibly change the outcome of the game.
I might sound petty and y’all might laugh at me. But I don’t give a fuck. Last night’s decision was a crime against football. And is going to go unnoticed. And we’re going to get slaughtered on the regular. While Manure and Pool will always get the decisions their way. It’s how the machine works.
Far more of a leap from you Graham.
Torreira was responding to what he felt as unreasonable criticism. The fact that he’s not currently an integral part of the team might make him consider his future but this sort of incident can’t make him feel positively about some of the support.
Arsenal must appeal
Even knowing or will be fruitless they must show strength in this system which is here to stay, we have been victims of 2 wrong decisions twice now..
This is now football … sadly
Look at the end of the day no one normal should enjoy booing their own player. But emery needs to own this because as the manager it’s literally his job to notice firstly that xhaka isn’t good enough (or even liked as a player) and secondly that he’s been booed before recently. A manager’s job isn’t just about football but also the human side. Regardless of if he likes xhaka, there’s no footballing case for him being on the field and by sending the guy out there all you do is piss the fans off and invite a reaction Emery… Read more »
I’m in exactly the same place as xhaka in my company where I’ve been given a project that is basically beyond my ability level and inexperience and I’ve had to be responsible enough to say look I’ll gove it 200% but be aware that with my inexperience I might make mistakes that could lead to trouble for you (my senior managers down the line) if I’m not given guidance and support. And sure enough when things have gone wrong they’ve just stepped in, taken the heat on my behalf and not let me have to deal with consequences that I… Read more »
If I were Emery I would resign before the next match. The majority of Arsenal match going fans are AKBs still hurt that Wenger was removed. They never gave Emery a chance nor the support he ever needed. And it’s going to get worse. He’s also a really poor man manager. The captain issue was a farce, his insistence of playing senior players is a farce as well. These are 2 variables that was always going to work against him in an emotionally unstable club like Arsenal . The only good thing he’s helped do is call out Ozil for… Read more »
Mystic Nice to read a Xhak-x\centric viewpoint. What I saw was different. -Xhaka was pulled off for tactical reason. He wasn’t the worst player on the field. -There was a mixture of booing, sarcastic applause and ironic cheers…probably some abuse when the substitution was called. -He didn’t show any URGENCY to get off the field. He took his bloody time getting off. I’ve seen Henderson bolt off the field many times when removed by Klopp. -Xhaka fanned the abuse by cupping his ears and mouthing abuse too -To his credit he a acknowledged the player coming in but what the… Read more »
You really have to lay all the blame at emery for this xhaka fiasco. That would’ve been like making eboue Captain in 2010 because he was funny in the dressing room
Unbelievable from emery
Bob
Your just scratching the surface.
Describe “unreasonable criticism”
Arsenal fans have sat through abject misery for a number of years, so don’t you think they have a right to voice their frustrations if and when relevant.
Yes, Emery is to blame for this current mess. He’s cut his own throat on this but at the same time Xhakas attitude sucks.
It’s a culmination of things.
Agreed?
They wanted him off
The reason why some booed Xhaka is also about Emery. They see Xhaka as his proxy.
Why does he get to start most games even when he’s not doing so well. Same as David Luis and Sokratis.
The said Jarred Gillette must be heavily investigated then. He must have been trading on the game and that must have inspired his despicably corrupt decision.
Arsenal fans boo their captain and he responds in a similar manner; fair enough!
@Chika : just lol.
”Instead xhaka took the armband despite clearly not being good enough and emery has put him in the line of fire”
Yea. Xhaka should have said, look here, I am not good enough. The fans don’t like me, the players voted for me but I think there was a mistake somewhere. So yea, I won’t accept it. Thanks.
Actually, Xhaka has been captain in all the teams he’s played before. Dunno if people know this. He’s captain material enough. We (me included) just think he’s not good enough for us currently
In the case of Jarred Gillette you just have an inexperienced employee trying to show he is good enough for the job and not scared to make the tough calls. At least now we all know his name, that wasn’t the case before the game. The blame should be on the FA for first putting him in a position to decide the outcome of matches and secondly not allowing the more experienced referee take a second look and overrule him. @ Dissenter by all means blame Emery for the booing of a player by the fans. I guess you also… Read more »
I’ve always wondered why the English game will take a simple concept like VAR and just ruin it. The rest delayed VAR in England, then they managed to nullify its strengths. The ways it’s set up..it’s all about protecting the referees ego not to get the decision right. It’s based on protecting the line of black. Yesterday the reverse happened because a novice referee was given powers that exceeds the most experienced referee in the league. This is simple…let the officiating referee walk up to a screen and review his own decision for these subjective moments VAR should just trigger… Read more »
“Actually, Xhaka has been captain in all the teams he’s played before”.
Yep captained Borrusia M at 22 and has captained his national team but is supposed to reject an armband that has been worn by Koscielny, Gallas, Arteta etc based on some desire not to piss off Arsenal fans….tell me more.
The match referee got both decisions right. Zaha would have received almost a perfect 10 at the Olympic Games, ably assisted by Chambers’s dangling leg which reduced the degree of difficulty to 1.6. The more I have looked at replays of the incident the more I am convinced there was no contact. The disallowed goal was just a farce. Chambers and the defender’s feet hooked together and both went to ground, it was impossible to say who tripped who, it could just as easily been a penalty. To have a referee not qualified to referee a PL match make the… Read more »
I don’t really get VAR anyway, it’s still an opinion of a human so what’s the point?
To me Zaha still dived, knew exactly what he was doing.but obviously some people will say he hasn’t. I wonder if it was Pepe that was fouled if it would have been overturned?
“the short list for the job: Allegri, Arteta, Henry, Lopetegui,Rangnick, Sampaoli, Vieira.”
Jose is not in the list?
Dysentery
“He’s the one who is a well compensated professional.”
…therefore he must never respond to whatever form of abuse directed towards him and his family right?
What an idiot!
Dissenter, read Chika’s post. I am not in denial that Xhaka could have bolted off. Even before he was substituted, he was being jeered. In matches he’s not been bad atall he’s been jeered, whenever he’s played he’s been jeered. How are people not taking the side of a player that’s being unfairly treated, especially one that’s giving his all?
Calling out his limitations as a player is one thing, scapegoating him is another. We saw this with Mustafi, he left the room, things are still happening, even worse.
Receding Social media? If you put your personal business on social media for strangers to see/comment on then you deserve whatever adulation or abuse that comes back. Sorry the onus is on professionals who get paid crazy money to do their jobs. Xhaka touted himself s a leader from day one at Arsenal. He certainly wasn’t leading yesterday with that drama. Emery didn’t judge this Xhaka situation right. It was always going to end like this. There’s a lot of contempt to Xhaka and he’s earned some of it with the public utterances he makes. I don’t support abuse of… Read more »
Theee conclusions from yesterday’s match: 1) Xhaka is toast as captain 2) VAR (as presently used) is toast as a system. either Change it radically to make it more consistent and intelligible to supporters and the referee or get rid of it 3) Emery is toast as manager. We are simply not creating enough chances -hardly any to be honest- for our forwards from open play and the football is turgid. I wouldn’t mind so much if we were consistently getting results, but it’s the mixture of turgid attack and panicky defence that really gets me, unlike last season, I… Read more »
Mystic
“Yea. Xhaka should have said, look here, I am not good enough. The fans don’t like me, the players voted for me but I think there was a mistake somewhere. So yea, I won’t accept it. Thanks.”
Haha if Xhaka had rejected the armband, the same idiot would castigate him for that and would have probably called him a weakling.
Gillette the best a man can geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
Mystic
I don’t engage with posters whose only stock in trade is abuse so please don’t refer that posters comment to me.
if Xhaka hates the abuse, why put himself up for the captain’s band?
You’re talking like every fan in the stadium booed him. It was even a significant minority, just enough idiots yelling loud enough to be heard. Instead, Xhaka exacerbated the situation pouring gasoline on fire.
Dissenter, sometimes you talk like you think from your arse. And sometimes due to rush of blood, I somehow wish for similar things to happen to you.
What dissenter said 👌
On Xhaka’s “leadership skills”: he may or may not be popular with his team mates, who may well consider him to be a leader, but he’s a leader in the mould of Trump or Kim Jung Un: disgracefully petulant when criticised.
He is a shit defensive midfielder, and an even worse captain.
https://africa.espn.com/football/atletico-madrid/story/3973909/koke-is-mr-atletico-madridso-why-are-fans-losing-patience A little insight into football fans and their entitlement mentality. Only this one did not react Dissenter i am not responding to you on this issue anymore, his wife has a social media handle, the well paid line is stale and stupid, wonder how many of your customers line up at your desk to boo your mistakes as you work. He had a bad game, was subbed early, let him join his team mates on the bench. No single players set the Emirates alight yesterday anyway “I don’t support abuse of any sort. ” says the man who has… Read more »
Torreira crying…please. Fucking get a grip you little tit.
Fully expecting a Twitter movement now of ‘back Xhaka’ where Arsenal fans have to remember how ‘classy’ we all are and just cheer everything Xhaka does.
They really will never learn. Especially the match going fans, they pay through the nose, they sat through a decade of stagnation under a buffoon and now they’re watching stagnation again…they have an absolute right if they’re seeing something shit to say ‘this is shit’.
This idea of ‘class’ just extends stagnation or negatives in the club.
Receding,
Sorry but I don’t blame the fans yesterday, as Xhaka deliberately walked off the were chasing the match, and then got angry when the crowd reacted.
Emery is responsible for Xhaka fiasco. Arsenal fans had made their disapproval of Xhaka known by booing him but Emery showed them two fingers and anointed the Swiss our captain. Jeers from the crowd yesterday was a signal to Xhaka and Emery too that they have had enough of them.
“Dissenter, sometimes you talk like you think from your arse.”
Dude is the most erratic poster on Legrove. He wouldn’t dare bring his stupid comments my way coz I easily put him in his place time after time lol.
Mystic
Thanks for the abuse, maybe I’ll throw off my shirt and stomp out my office.
The irony is that you’re defending a player who overacted to abuse while casually doing the same to others.
*…deliberately walked off at a snail’s pace when we were chasing the match
Words
Just exactly what I was saying. I wonder why this is so hard.
“It’s pretty remarkable just how much of a mess the Premier League have managed to make of VAR. It was bad — really bad — before this weekend, but now it’s gone completely haywire. After some of the decisions overturned this weekend, the “high bar” we were told that would be applied has now been lowered to shoelace level: it feels a bit like a restaurant dress code suddenly changing from white tie and tails to Speedos and slippers. Over the games this weekend we’ve seen Everton, heading for victory against Brighton, penalised because Michael Keane might have trodden on… Read more »
Xhaka is not a good footballer in the premier league standards that are high. Sure he has attributes. but captain of an expectant top 4 team are not befitting them. I feel sorry for the guy. I don’t think he lacks effort or spirit…just not good enough and error prone. The fault lies with his management. Emery has followed the vote for him by the players and trusted him as captain. Big mistake. Emerys communication and man-management appears useless. I’m wondering if his handling of ramseys negotiation on wages was clumsy and led to his departure. Emery has to go.… Read more »
If Torriera cried because if that incident….then God help us.
Emery told the press that it was the club’s decision to freeze Ozil out. That is a very stupid act. In the meantime, Ozil is showing to the media how he is training hard. He also has video showing his training with coaches and ex_Arsenal players. He is already planning for an eventual court case.
We have a track record of losing away. It will be a fatal blow if we couldn’t win our home features.
TR7 I got to say I thought Emery came across as a villain in the post match conference. Basically throwing Xhaka under the boss saying he was wrong, there will be a meeting about him and he may be stripped of the captaincy. Hold on. Everyone, literally everyone aside from a few morons stated Xhaka is a terrible choice as captain. The fans don’t like him. Rarely do fans just not like a player as if it’s something personal. They don’t like him because he’s immobile, error prone and on his very best day is average. He unbalances our midfield.… Read more »
Mysticleaves
“If I were Emery I would resign before the next match. The majority of Arsenal match going fans are AKBs still hurt that Wenger was removed. They never gave Emery a chance nor the support he ever needed”
I disagree, 12 months ago Emery had the emirates crowd eating out of his hand, the fans had fully excepted him and he should have gone from strength to strength.
Instead he made stupid decisions that have now turned 90% of fans against him .
He only has himself to blame
TR7 who should have been Arsenal captain?
Give me an obvious name the fans would have embraced and who would actually lead us on the pitch.
If you pay for a match
Leave the comfort of your home and commute for minutes to hours to reach the stadium.
Wait through the lines and security checks to get into a stadium
…then you’ve earned the right to hurry off a player walking out casually in a game we were desperately looking for a winner.
TR7
So the wager is on? Please confirm.
RH
“Funny no one else has mentioned this Lacazette offside Pierre keeps talking about”
I said he was offside without seeing any replays and thos link proves I’m right …
1.13 on the link, Chambers toe pokes the ball and Lacazette comes back from an offside position to challenge for the ball
Look and learn though I dont expect you to agree despite the evidence.
https://streamable.com/sg3t2
Booing isn’t abusing, you halfwits.
These men are sportsmen ala entertainers. If they do well, they are cheered and have their names sung. If they frustrate, they are subject to jeering and booing.
Two sides of a coin.
The only ‘entitled’ numpties here are those who only want the adulation and none of the criticism.
Cesc, agree with everything you said in the last post. Emery failed to handle PSG dressing room and looks like he is about to loose Arsenal dressing room. Forget Ozil, even Auba and Laca don’t seem too enamoured of Emery if their social media activities are anything to go by.
Words, so everything is toast? 😄😄 Let’s eat some bread
Xhaka threw the armband on the floor thats a strike as far as im concerned.
“Look and learn though I dont expect you to agree despite the evidence.”
You are the one who needs to use those eyes well
If the goal was cancelled for offside referees have a hand signal for indicating offside, ball was placed at the position where Chambers supposedly fouled a player so you bringing up Lacazette and offside was both absurd and expected.
Receding
I don’t know who should have been our captain but I do know that a player who doesn’t deserve a place in the playing 11 should never be made captain of a team. They say choose your best team first and then choose a captain from that team.
Bamford
Yes, the wager is on.
“They say choose your best team first and then choose a captain from that team.”
They say that in the coaching school you attended??