Jose Mourinh-oh-no

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Good morning my darlings, a very short post from me today because I have NOTHING to write about.

The hot news that has the comments section in a fluster is the story that Jose Mourinho has said NO to Lyon. Why? He wants a job in England.

Some are speculating he’s looking to sneak the Spurs job, I find this one tough to grapple with. Daniel Levy knows he has a great coach (that is clearly under fire), one that’s not dealt with dark times in his Scum career so far, so I’d imagine he’ll see it through with Poch.

Interesting thing with Spurs is they haven’t been a well-run club prior to Levy. If anything, Poch and the generation of elite talent they cultivated has been the happiest of accidents. I am going to watch with a fascinated eye to see what happens next, because based on historical evidence, they could go back to type after this generation withers and dies. Poch has created the impossible there, he’s crafted talent, he’s spent very little, and he’s kept players so motivated, money hasn’t been an issue. That’s coming to an end, the dream was a potless one.

Anyway… bring back Harry.

The second Jose conspiracy theory is that he’s waiting on Unai Emery to fail. Mustafi ramped up the pressure. As I said yesterday, the German defensive expert was on the path to a Balon D’or before Emery took over at Arsenal. The Spaniard crushed his spirit, forced Arsenal internet to take up arms against him, now Unai is left with blood on his hands.

Will the board tolerate this? Who knows…

I do think everyone has a feeling in their bones that Jose is waiting for the guillotine to drop. His agent is probably telling Edu that Jose is a top 4 machine, Edu probably has a top 4 bonus planned. The agent might even be slipping him a presentation… not a powerpoint, like Unai did… no, a Google Slides, because he is a modern businessman willing to create in the cloud… the same place he crafted his Arsenal vision.

I do not think this is a good long term option for Arsenal, but contrary to some of the shrieks I hear, Jose would be a good stop-gap… and any man that cries that he misses football is going to be more than happy to take on our incredible squad of players.

Also worth noting the press hype…

‘Jose was right about United after all’

Those stories are no accident.

Right, that’s my inflammatory post for the day, see YOU in the comments where I will battle you with all my will. xxx

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Graham62

Pierre

I agree.

Michael Keane is not good enough.

Anyway, it’s not as if we aren’t going to qualify.

Valentin

The report mentions that they have asked him if he was fine with a reduced role . So that means that Arsenal was going to favour Xhaka, Guendouzi and that He will have to share the last midfield position with Ceballos and Willock.

Why not accept the Italian offer of 60 millions was the case? Because next summer he will be worth less. It is a strange decision, unless they have a long term target who was unattainable this summer.

UTarse

Valentin,
You weren’t referring to a “fight on a trading floor”.

You like changing the narrative don’t you Valentin ? Your original comment was bullshit and I called you out on it.

terraloon

So eight games in and third place and yes the table doesn’t lie but the truth is after 38 games and other than glimpses I really can’t see much to shout about. Some talk about chances created or other stats but let’s just focus on like for like performances this season compared with last. The Villa game aside ( they weren’t in the PL last season) 2018/19. 2019/20 Points. 16. 12 Scored. 18. 10 Against. 12. 9 Improvement? As an aside Chelsea have 2 more points this season than against the same opposition last season ( ignoring their Sheffield Utd… Read more »

Marc

Valentin

You’re not suggesting that we had a £60 million bid for Torreira in the summer are you?

If you are from which club?

Valentin

Bojangles, I don’t see leadership quality in Guendouzi yet, he is way too emotional for that now. What I see is willpower. Sheer hate of losing and willingness to leave everything on the pitch to win. However he also show his emotion too easily. Look desperate when we concede a goal. He needs to learn to keep his emotions in check when things so not go his way while still keep the fire . Teammates don’t want a hot head who cries when things don’t go our way. Captain should be the one teammates turn to in stormy games. I… Read more »

Graham62

Valentin

He shows all the emotions that have been missing at Arsenal Football Club these past ten years.

He is captaincy material down the line.

There’s no way he could have played under Wenger.

Valentin

Marc,

There were talk that Italian clubs were interested in him. Some newspaper reported that Arsenal had turned down two offers from Italian clubs including one that would have totalled €60 millions with all bonus and add-ons.

Graham62

“The sheer hate of losing”

He would have been too much for Wenger.

“Stay focused Matteo and accept things like this happen”

Valentin

Graham62,

Emotion was never an issue under Wenger. Player Quality and organisation was in his latter years.

Cesc has so much emotion he threw pizza at red Nose.

Gallas was one of the most emotional captain of Arsenal . That was also the reason why that made him a bad captain. Against Birmingham after Clichy conceded a last minute penalty, he was so overwhelmed by emotion he just sat there, instead of guiding the team.

Marc

Valentin

Mate there is no way we turned down bids equalling 60 million euros for Torreira in the summer. Firstly I’d say one of the clubs you mention is AC Milan who are in all sorts of financial trouble. Secondly you’re saying we turned down a bid for a player the manager doesn’t fancy when we had limited funds to play with.

DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT YOU READ IN THE PAPERS OR ON THE INTERNET ABOUT TRANSFERS!!!

Valentin

Graham, “Stay focused Matteo and accept things like this happen” I don’t see anything wrong with those words. You want player who stay focus on the job rather than be consumed by rage, revenge, despair. Focus on winning the game instead of stewing in your sense of injustice, unfairness, bad luck. During the invincible run Arsenal was losing to Middlesbrough, the team and Henry were so angry that it drove them to win the game. Same thing this season against Aston Villa. Compare that with Spurs at Chelsea the season Leicester won the league. They has such a sense of… Read more »

Valentin

Marc,

There may be a valid reasons why we turn down offers for Torreira.

* We have a replacement target in mind who was not ready or available at the time.

* The payment scheduling was not something that benefited us. Back loaded payment does nothing for us in the short term.

* the offer came too late in the transfer window to let us change the overall plan.

* The manager may have decided to test different players combination, but had no guarantee that they would be a success. Keeping Torreira was just a security blanket.

Marc

Valentin

We did not receive a bid for Torreira worth 60 million euros.

Graham62

Valentin

Maybe so but at Arsenal over the years the acceptance of failure became the norm.

A true winner and leader hates to lose( at anything!)

I love Guendouzis attitude. It is refreshing to see him gesticulate when things go wrong, rather than stand hands on hips, which has been the case at Arsenal for far too long.

Whatever some may feel on here, Wenger was not a born winner. If he was, he would have walked long before he was eventually pushed.

At least Guendouzi will be able to develop his positive mindset, even under Unai.

Marc

Displaying an emotion such as anger in a football match is not a bad thing. What is important is how you channel the anger.

With what I’ve seen so far this season Guendozi is maturing as a player and has shown some leadership qualities.

Graham62

Think about TH14, PV, DB10, Fabregas etc were all born winners. Why do you think they wanted out?

That’s it, they’d had enough.

Champagne charlie

Azed You create a ridiculously narrow metric for measuring creativity and then ask for proof, you’re absolutely against an idea it’s as simple as that. Last season we were third highest scorers as you love to go on about, but I’ve doused that with the relevant context and the perspective changes on that mega stat. Next you drop big chances created as if that’s the only measure of a players creativity. If you actually watch us play there’s not a sensible person that concludes we Le chance after chance and dominate matches in this regard. We simply don’t. For you… Read more »

Marc

“There is literally no harm to be done to the side with Ozil’s inclusion.”

Other than effectively playing with 10 men for 80 or so minutes every match he’s in.

Cesc Appeal

Marc Agreed, no way we received a £57 Million bid for Torreira…we’d have taken it. More than doubling your money 12 months after paying £26 Million for him, especially a player the manager apparently has reservations about. The most concrete rumour I read said because Milan are skint they were offering nothing for him in the first year and then staggered payments from next summer onwards, and again the total fee was like £38 Million or something. I think watching England last night was quite interesting, Rice and Henderson just did not work at all and when your midfield doesn’t… Read more »

Marc

Cesc

Yeah there were rumours about a 2 year loan with a fee then an option – not even compulsory fee to buy but nothing got close to 60 million euros.

Cesc Appeal

Marc

Yeah because the joke in the summer was as this is Gazidis at Milan this is what other teams must have felt like for years when Arsenal negotiated with them.

Marc

Cesc

What I want to know is where is the 60 million euro bid from Milan for Ozil?

Champagne charlie

“Other than effectively playing with 10 men for 80 or so minutes every match he’s in.“

You’re right Marc, we’d lose all our defensive solidity with Ozil……

7 games, 9 goals conceded without him. Can’t disrupt that fortress.

Valentin

Marc,

I thought that it was a €7 millions loan fee per year for 2 years and then an buying fee of €35 and with €10 millions of add-ons if they won the league and qualify for Champion’s League.

Marc

CC I’m not arguing that there aren’t issues but if you think Ozil is the solution to anything at Arsenal at the moment you need to dial down the medication a little. The 2 major problems are no natural full backs – should be sorted once Bellerin and Tierney are back and even more so the lack of balance in midfield. Drop Xhaka put Torreira in as DM and then have 2 of Guendozi, Willock and Ceballos to make up the numbers. It would be a young / inexperienced midfield and there would be mistakes but that’s the best option… Read more »

Cesc Appeal

Marc

I mean I kind of feel Gazidis owes us on that one.

He’s the tosser that put the giant sopping flange on £350 000 a week.

We all know how this one goes though, we will be paying £175 000 a week to Ozil for the next year and a half while he plays in some dead rubber league and certain people here hail his stats from the HIbsjdgysgkaakhs League where he’s banging them in against GKs who were fitting his TV the evening before.

Marc

Valentin

There were all sorts of numbers quoted in different stories I can’t remember the details. For starters Milan talking about winning the league in a transfer deal and attaching a figure to it would be laughed out of the room.

Bojangles

“banging them in against GKs who were fitting his TV the evening before.”

Lol… I like

Marc

Cesc

If you work on Arsenal having 45,000 season ticket holders and the average cost is £1,500 then Ozil is taking about a third of all season ticket revenue.

I have no problem with a player earning that amount of money I have an issue with him having the immune system of the boy in the bubble.

Chris

I think Roy Keane was spot on about Danny Rose last night. One of the most overrated players today. Nobody covered themselves in glory last night but he was especially poor, looked like he couldn’t care less.

Bojangles

Maguire is another overrated defender especially in light of his price tag.

Says a lot about English defenders in general when Keane and Maguire are our central pairing.

Pierre

“Banter is good as long as it’s not made personal, which I’ve done in the past to retaliate, but now just can’t be bothered”

3 hours prior to Tony’s assertion that he cant be bothered with banter that’s personal

He wrote this about Un.

“where you can’t afford private medical care for your anal issues.”

If that’s not personal then I don’t know what is.

Cesc Appeal

‘I have no problem with a player earning that amount of money I have an issue with him having the immune system of the boy in the bubble.’

And the spine of a jellyfish.

Will always be one of the most ridiculous decisions in football.

Pierre

Slightly embarrassing being an Arsenal supporter these days .

We had years of childish abuse aimed at our previous manager, and now he’s departed the obsession has turned to Ozil , and when he’s departed I’m sure they will up the anti on xhaka

Pretty sad if you ask me …

Marc

Cesc

It amazes me that all of the tactical experts on here can’t see how easy it is to negate Ozil’s contribution in a match. A heavy tackle in the first 5 minutes and that’s him gone from the match.

Words on a Blog

Pierre,

Tony’s post was in response to being called a sex tourist because he has a Thai wife

Marc

Pierre

It’s not sad it’s the path to success. Wenger’s gone, get rid of Ozil, Mustafi and Xhaka and we’re getting back to where we should be.

Bob N16

Marc, 12.17 I agree completely. Two ways at looking at our season so far: – a decent amount of points after 8 games, two of our main rivals 4 & 6 pts behind us – there hasn’t been one game where you can say that we’ve played really well, some halves have been terrible, GD of +1 What are our prospects: – with defensive reinforcements available our team shows real improvement together with improved integration from new players Pepe, Ceballos, youngsters, Emery gets his combinations right – our team continues to concede too many goals and our midfield continues to… Read more »

Pierre

WOB
I think you’ll find that wasnt Un who made that original remark. .

Bob N16

Pierre ‘the obsession has turned to Ozil’, you’ve nailed that statement at the very least. Complaining about people obsessing about Ozil(all be it negatively) and at the same time constantly posting about him yourself. Classic.

Cesc Appeal

Marc A lot of them don’t want to. Most of the Ozil defenders for are lifetime members of the pro-Wenger rabble so it’s not really shocking. Both Ozil and Xhaka are system breakers, you put them in the team and you need to change everything around them to make them work and they simply are not worth it. I will say at least Xhaka looks like he wants to play and give it a go, I’ve never seen such barefaced lethargy from a ‘sportsman’ in my life as I see with Ozil. The club is doing exactly the right thing… Read more »

Marc

Bob It staggers me. Managers will always have favourites – Fergie had players like John O’Shea but he did a particular job to what you have to assume were strict instructions. Xhaka’s a walking fuck up waiting to happen – most who sit round me are more surprised if he completes a match without making some horrendous cock up and are usually more relaxed in a match if he gets it out of the way early although as I have pointed out that doesn’t mean he can’t manager another. What I want someone to tell me is what does Xhaka… Read more »

Pierre

Marc
Its embarrassing the absurd lengths that “fans”( and I use that term loosely) will go to discredit our players…

Champagne charlie

“I’m not arguing that there aren’t issues but if you think Ozil is the solution to anything at Arsenal at the moment you need to dial down the medication a little.“

No you’re just playing a game of ‘my opinion or you’re an idiot’ whilst ignoring the realities.

We don’t create, Mesut has made a living off of doing it out of nothing. The whole issue becomes more than it is when folk like you get their back up over players they don’t like.

Marc

Pierre

OK so someone who doesn’t attend matches but worships the ground players walk on without any form of objective criticism is more of a fan than someone who attends over 20 matches a season but is pissed off with a couple of poor players?

I wouldn’t go to Wales if I were you – you’ll get fucked stupid by the locals.

Champagne charlie

“Both Ozil and Xhaka are system breakers, you put them in the team and you need to change everything around them to make them work and they simply are not worth it“

Haha that’s a new one, we have system breakers in the squad no wonder Emery hasn’t made us look competent.

Nelson

Spanish newspaper AS reports that Ceballos had to end training early on Tuesday after having muscular pains and underwent the scan the next day.

Ceballos is the only player selected to play our last two games. After the interlull, there will be three weeks where we have two games per week. Emery better rotates players carefully to avoid more injuries. It’s good that our squad is deeper this season.

Marc

CC

I haven’t been anti Ozil since before we signed him – it’s an opinion I’ve come to after watching several years of lack of application.

You’re trying to find a stick to beat Emery with. Why pick Ozil he’s not the solution when he doesn’t contribute in any match where there’s even a degree of competition.

If you want to criticise Emery just go with Xhaka. He’s simply not suitable for the PL.

Pierre

Marc
“I wouldn’t go to Wales if I were you – you’ll get fucked stupid by the locals.”

You lost me there …obviously you have run out of anything sensible to say so you said the first thing that come into your head…

Champagne charlie

“You’re trying to find a stick to beat Emery with. Why pick Ozil he’s not the solution when he doesn’t contribute in any match where there’s even a degree of competition.If you want to criticise Emery just go with Xhaka. He’s simply not suitable for the PL.“ That’s just a juvenile take in an attempt to discredit a POV. I don’t talk about Xhaka because I don’t believe like some that Torreira is the second coming of Kante being played out of position. I also don’t think changing a midfield combination under Emery will yield anything because of the absence… Read more »

Marc

Pierre

I was inferring that you are a sheep and the Welsh are fond of bestiality.

Bob N16

Certain players are equally capable of contributing both offensively and defensively. Ozil and Xhaka contribute when we have the ball but are both really weak when we are defending. This imbalance means that their deficiencies have to be compensated for, otherwise the opposition can take advantage. This is obviously a simplification but when selecting them a coach has to weigh up whether they’re worth the additional defensive work others will have to do because of their selection. Like Marc, I can’t see it with Xhaka but I can in certain circumstances with Ozil although as I’ve said before I suspect… Read more »

Marc

CC

I haven’t said Torreira is the second coming – he is currently the best option we have for DM. Xhaka slows down play, makes stupid mistakes and his lack of mobility means other midfielders get dragged out of position. This means our midfield is not functioning as it should leading to a lack of creativity and too many attacks getting through against the defence.

Just chucking Ozil on is not going to stop the other problems, in fact it would make them worse as Ozil is not going to contribute in other areas.

Marc

Bob

” I’ve said before I suspect he’s being deliberately ostracised.”

I think the club are definitely trying to push him out – £18,200,000 a year.

Bamford10

Pierre “It’s embarrassing the absurd lengths that ‘fans’ ( and I use that term loosely) will go to discredit our players.” This is hilarious. One, no one has to go to any lengths to discredit Ozil; he has discredited himself the last few years with consistently lifeless and ineffectual performances, and he has clearly discredited himself recently in training as far as the coaching staff and club are concerned. As for being a good “fan,” you and a few others here have spent much of your time over the past year pouring unreasonable criticism and insults onto the head of… Read more »

Marc

Pierre & CC

A genuine question – which manager out there who is a reasonable option to replace Emery would suddenly start getting major performances out of Ozil?

Pierre

Bamford “This is hilarious. One, no one has to go to any lengths to discredit Ozil; he has discredited himself the last few years with consistently lifeless and ineffectual performances” Arsenal hadn’t won a trophy for 6 / 7 years before he arrived and then proceeded to win 3 trophies in 4 seasons whilst being the fastest in prem history to reach 50 assists “Lifeless and ineffectual performances the last few years ” The season before last it was noted that he was the 3rd most creative player in EUROPE. 15 months ago he created more chances per 90 minutes… Read more »

azed

If you actually watch us play there’s not a sensible person that concludes we Le chance after chance and dominate matches in this regard. We simply don’t. For you to attack the call for the manager to utilise his squad better and actually include Ozil in some capacity, given our lacklustre creative output, is nothing but a militant defence of the manager.

We have no problem scoring, we score over a goal a game our major problem is conceding.

azed

“Even under Emery he has created more chances for his team mates than any other player.”

Iwobi created the most big chances for Arsenal last season followed by Kolasinac and Mkhitaryan.

Marc

Pierre

6 chances in 71 minutes – who were the opposition?

Bamford10

Marc

That’s a bad question, IMO. One, it implies that Ozil could be revived at the top level at this point, and it also implies that his anemic performances have something to with his managers.

Two, it allows a Pierre to say “Guardiola” and then construct an imaginary scenario in which Ozil is suddenly playing like it’s 2010 again. This revival of Ozil will have occurred nowhere but in Pierre’s imagination, but he will talk about it as though it were a real thing or a real possibility.

Bob N16

Pierre, ‘Need I go on?’ No

Graham62

B10 Nicely put. Pierre will wiggle out an answer though. He always does. Look at it this way. Emery and Wenger are chalk and cheese in their methods and philosophies, general interpretation of things and communication skills. Emery has been at the club 17 months, Wenger22 years. Wenger oversaw Ozil and gave him the freedom/leeway to express himself. Ozil regressed because of this freedom. Emery didn’t give Ozil this freedom, rather a structure and system to stick to. He wanted a work ethic and a commitment to work harder for the team. Ozil didn’t want this. Amazing really given the… Read more »

Marc

Bamford

That’s why I said reasonable option – Pep and Klopp are not available.

My guess is he won’t answer because no top level manager is in slightest bit interested in Ozil. If Pep thought he would make a difference City would buy him – we’d probably accept letting him go on a free if it got him off the wage bill.

If he’s so good why does no big club want him?

Valentin

With Ceballos and Nelson injured and potentially missing the next weeks, Özil may get his opportunity by default to play.
Would not be wise to play Saka in all games during that period.
Let’s see what happen.

Marc

Valentin

I agree Saka has looked good but he’s still young and needs time and patience.

Problem with Ozil getting matches is when he doesn’t perform we’ll suddenly get a million excuses on why it’s got nothing to do with a lack of application form him.

I’m waiting for the “Emery has told the players not to pass to him”

Bamford10

Pierre “To put that into perspective, Ceballos has created 5 chances in his last 6 GAMES.” Ceballos is playing in completely different spaces and far further from goal. I explained this the other day. Most of Ceballos’s work has been 30-40 yards from goal, whereas Ozil used to set up camp 20-25 yards from goal. If Ceballos had the luxury of simply hanging our 25 yards from goal and lobbing crosses into the box, he too would be accruing chances created stats. He doesn’t have this luxury, so the point is irrelevant. “Need I go on?” No, you don’t. Because… Read more »

Graham62

“Deliberately ostracised”

I don’t think so.

Ozil brought everything upon himself.

He sees himself as a special individual who is beyond reproach.

If only he could comprehend things a wee bit more.

Not our Mesut.

Marc

Bamford

You’ve also missed the fact that Ceballos is adjusting to a new country and more physical league.

Ozil’s had how many years?

Bob N16

Probably best not to bite, Bamford.

Rambo Ramsey

Ozil at 10% would still be Arsenal’s best attacking player.

Ceballos? Willock? Nelson?

These clowns make it utterly painful for me to watch our play.

Bamford10

Graham

Well said. But Ozil was already regressing / declining before he left Madrid.

Bob N16

Graham, you don’t think Sanhelli might be saying to Emery, best not to pick Ozil and try and force him and his agent to find another club? Whether his bringing it on himself is true, which I would agree with, doesn’t mean he can’t be ostracised as well. They are not mutually exclusive.

Of course he may not being picked for purely footballing reasons but I doubt it.

Rambo Ramsey

Makes me weep watching every one of the few chances that Arsenal create come via a cross/cutback of fullbacks.

Clearly the next evolution phase of Emery’s Arsenal is chances through a long throw-in ala Stoke City.

Bob N16

Wow Rambo, Willock a clown (let alone the other two) , Ozil at 10%. You’re tripping!

Marc

Ramsey

So you’re admitting that Ozil’s not even giving it 10%?

Rambo Ramsey

Emery would have no clue managing an Ozil, he would probably ask him to play DM.

Xhaka a central fixture, Torreira playing B2B in advanced positions – Decisions that can only come from a clueless buffoon.

Chris

As I said the other day, assists and chances created are sometimes hard to use as a solid stat to illustrate a point. The last World Cup for example. I remember watching the Germany vs Korea match and two of Ozil’s ‘chances created’ were simple sideways passes to a team mate who then had a snap shot at goal. Passes any professional player should be able to make. It is easy to see how these stats could be padded to the point where it may not be representative of the actual level of performance. Watching Ozil over the last couple… Read more »

Rambo Ramsey

Marc,

This isn’t an Ozil issue. He is merely an example of Emery’s distasteful( for me) management.

Anyway, I can’t wait for Ozil to be shipped out and Emery’s dream of a tall,hunky midfielder come in and bore us to death.

Bamford10

Rambo When we have two athletic, ground-covering, ball-winning, ball-circulating CMs behind a more attack-minded CM, you will see the kind of attacking play you are interested in. Until then, we don’t have the balance in central midfield to play in that way. We’ll also get more interesting attacking play the better our wide attacking players play. Regardless, though, if attacking down the wings via overlapping fullbacks (Tierney, Bellerin) gets us chances, goals, results and a top four finish, there will be very little to complain about. Champagne football will come; in the meantime, we need organization, discipline, results, stability and… Read more »

Marc

Chris

Haven’t you noticed how Pierre has suddenly switched from Ozil assist stats to Ozil created chances stats.

It’s pure desperation from fans who identify with a manager, a player or both more than the club.

Personally I don’t give a monkey’s whether a player is black or white, gay or straight, Christian, Jew or Muslim or what passport they carry. If they are good and perform fantastic.

Rambo Ramsey

“Champagne football will come; in the meantime, we need organization, discipline, results, stability and CL football.”

Emery will deliver a solid 0/6 in that list.

Marc

Rambo I actually think as it stands Emery will be gone in the summer. There are in my opinion at least 3 potential outcomes with Emery at the moment. 1) He gets an extension. 2) He leaves in the summer. 3) Sanllehi and or Edu lose their rag and fire him mid season. I can’t see an extension unless it all comes together and not only results get better but the football is more entertaining. If he doesn’t get top 4 he’s definitely gone and even if he does I can still see him moving on. To be fired mid… Read more »

Champagne charlie

“I haven’t said Torreira is the second coming – he is currently the best option we have for DM. Xhaka slows down play, makes stupid mistakes and his lack of mobility means other midfielders get dragged out of position. This means our midfield is not functioning as it should leading to a lack of creativity and too many attacks getting through against the defence.“ And crack on with that idea, I don’t believe it for a second because nothing I’ve seen from Torreira tells me he’s the answer as a DM. “A genuine question – which manager out there who… Read more »

azed

“Makes me weep watching every one of the few chances that Arsenal create come via a cross/cutback of fullbacks.”

Liverpool won the Champions League playing this way. I’ll take that every day of the week.

Marc

CC

Torreira might not be the long term solution at DM but out of the players we have he’s the current best option in my opinion. If it’s not working after 10 – 12 matches then fine reassess but we’ve all watched Xhaka be a fucking disaster no matter where he plays on the pitch now for over 3 years.

OK so you’re not saying Ozil should be played you’re just saying he’s capable of making a creative pass.

Have I understood you correctly now with regards to Ozil?

Cesc Appeal

If Emery wants to play Xhaka he can’t play Ozil if he wants to play Ozil he can’t play Xhaka.

Since he seems infatuated with Xhaka and has given him the captaincy it is Xhaka who is going to get to slow down our midfield and cause us off the ball issues and not Ozil.

azed

“And crack on with that idea, I don’t believe it for a second because nothing I’ve seen from Torreira tells me he’s the answer as a DM.”

You are right on this one. As seen on Twitter

“Can’t really do that, but Arsenal’s win percentage with Lucas Torreira starting in the Premier League is 50% and without him it’s 60%”

Champagne charlie

“Champagne football will come; in the meantime, we need organization, discipline, results, stability and CL football.”

Still posts this sort of thing with a straight face, amazing.

Organisation and discipline is why we aren’t seeing champagne football 😂😂

Yes mate, I’m bowled over by the discipline and organisation were showing out there, we’re Atletico of the prem so we are.

Bamford10

Azed

Exactly.

Marc

azed

It’s possible that our full back play might improve when we’ve got 2 full backs actually playing.

Words on a Blog

Once again on Ozil I’ll reiterate that it has now got to the stage where the club (and not just Emery) wants him out, regardless of his creativity or the magnificence of his chances created stats. More importantly, Ozil also now wants to go: hence his/Team Ozil’s radio silence on social media despite not being played or selected for the squad.

The only hold-outs from this general consensus in the social media/blogosphere space are Pierre (who just can’t let go), and (cos he just loves a good back-and-forth), CC.

Batistuta

Can’t remember the last time Rambo Ramsey made any positive remark regarding Arsenal, if he were the only one here, you’d think we were on the verge of getting relegated

Bob N16

CC, you genuinely don’t believe that Torreira had some excellent CDM games in the first half of last season? Myself and many others were all thinking that we’d finally got a player who can protect our defence. He faded and was patchy in the second half of the season but most would excuse that as a player adjusting to the PL following a World Cup. This season he’s been played out of position. He’s not the missing link or if you prefer ‘ the second coming’ but I hope you’re way off and that you have to eat ‘some humble… Read more »

Cesc Appeal

Maybe full back play is a massive part of Emery’s plan and that is why he likes Xhaka, the spread of the ball from deep midfield to the wide positions to find Bellerin and Tierney?

I don’t know, really stretching to try to understand.

Batistuta

Problem with these Ozil “moments” is that they haven’t been consistent for quite a while now and so while we may not be creating a lot, there’s no pointers to suggest this stats will improve if the German gets more game time….. To be fair i think there are certain games as a manager, you can bring in a player like that and get him fired up for it(probably against the smaller teams at home) but this is our 3 season in the Europa league and he was a key component of the last 2 squads that have finished there… Read more »

Champagne charlie

Marc

No, I’d include Ozil in some capacity for the reasons stated. I see no downside to his inclusion when the side is so bereft of creativity, if anything only positives. From the outside it appears little more than a daft hardline stance that is risking our ability to get results.

Bob N16

Bamford ‘Azed exactly’ .

What, that there is a direct correlation between Torreira’s presence in our team and our win percentage going down by 10%.?

Shit my eyes have deceived me. Get rid I say, he must be shit!

azed

“From the outside it appears little more than a daft hardline stance that is risking our ability to get results.”

Lots of things happen that we outsiders have no clue about.

Emery was blasted on here for letting Monreal go just before the NLD, but it turned out that Emery wanted him to play but powers above decided otherwise.

The club wants Ozil out, not just the manager.