Matteo of the Match

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Two points dropped. Right?

The story was a familiar one. A Granit Xhaka mistake costing us a needless goal. Two if you’re being very harsh.

The first came when he and Sokratis made a total mess of a clearance inside 11 minutes. The whole team folded allowing Lamela to fizz a shot across Leno, he parried it into the path of Eriksen, and we went one down.

The second mistake was an inexplicable lunge in the penalty box. Careless, unprofessional, but oh so very Granit Xhaka. Kane buried the penalty like a robot was a two-step special.

I don’t even want to get into the needless fouling towards the end when we were trying to chase the game. He wasn’t even playing players and he was slowing down the play.

It’s all so avoidable. Just don’t pick him. Emery has watched him make mistake after mistake for an entire year… he knows that he can’t stand up to pressure… he knows that he does dim things very consistently… so what does he do? He picks him against Spurs and gives him the captains armband in some sort of weird masochistic show of authority.

The midfield he chose was quite odd. Basically 3 deep-lying midfielders. Very little creativity. It didn’t really give us much solidity, as we were all over the place in the first half, and it gave us real trouble transitioning the ball forward. Lacazette was constantly dropping deep to collect the ball, sometimes from our own penalty box.

Thankfully, the Frenchman came through to save our half. Pepe sliced a ball into his path, he took two very good touches and forced the ball past Lloris from close range. That goal gave us a much-needed boost heading into the second half.

We came out a much more forceful side. The halftime team talk must have focused on urgency, pressure and more adventure moving forward. The game suddenly clicked into a proper North London derby, there was next to no structure, the ball was travelling end to end at a ferocious pace, and defending went out the window for both sides (not like it was ever in the window for us).

The manager introduced Ceballos for LT, and that gave us a different sort of energy. It introduced a link between attack and midfield, and it gave us a bit more mobility in midfield. Still didn’t stop Harry Kane waltzing into the box and ripping a shot off the inside of Leno’s post.

Still, you’d be hard pushed to convince me Arsenal weren’t deserving of a goal, the winds blew heavily in our favour and we looked far more menacing than Spurs.

The goal that levelled it was a thing of beauty. Matteo G threaded an outrageous pass that levelled the whole Spurs team, Auba gliding it past with the lightest of touches. It was out of this world.

We still had time for a Harry Kane dive, he shifted his body inside Sokratis running path and threw himself to the ground. It wasn’t even clever. It was pure out and out cheating. It really, really, really needs to be dealt with. His cheating is out of control. If he weren’t English, he’d be getting lampooned by the media.

So what can we conclude?

The Xhaka thing

Emery has to stop relying on Xhaka. He’s slow, ponderous, bad under pressure and he makes massive errors more often than any Arsenal player I can remember. I can give a pass to him for last season, but now it’s starting to look like a real blindspot.

Bland Midfields

Additionally, the manager needs to start being more aggressive with his line-ups. That midfield was always going to be bland. We shouldn’t have to watch strikers drop deep to make up for a lack of creativity. It made little sense to have 3 similar midfielders sitting in a flat line yesterday, especially when Spurs were there for the taking. We gave them far too much defensive respect and it didn’t even pay off, we conceded 8 shots in the first half, with 7 of them on target. An abomination.

The Masterful

I think that Matteo G just announced himself on the world stage. That performance was nothing short of sensational. He was at the heart of everything. His passing was good, he ran with the ball well, he was ambitious and his attitude was absolutely exceptional all game long. That should be the standard for every game moving forward. Incredible that he’s only 20 years old. A megastar in waiting.

Pepe

I’ve seen some tasteless Arsenal fans comparing him to Gervinho. Utter drivel. The man hasn’t clicked yet, but you can see he’s going to be absolutely class. He has that air of unpredictability we need in that front line, he’s fast, he can pass, he reads the game well and I think he’s going to be capable of explosive moments of brilliance. He just needs a bit of luck, then he’s away.

Defence

Spurs had a lot of good chances yesterday. I think if I watched that game again, I’d be appalled at some of the defending. We are going to need to sharpen up, we are too easy to get at, and we gave key Spurs players far too much time to do their thing yesterday. Leno kept that scoreline acceptable yesterday, but he won’t save us like that all season. David Luiz also needs to be pulled to one side… that’s 4 errors in 3 games from him. Not good enough.

Top 4

I think we’re nailed on for the top 3 this season. Spurs don’t look the same, Chelsea will  struggle, and United are utterly average. It’s basically ours to lose, I just hope that isn’t an invitation to coast. Emery needs to tighten the ship and he needs to find a way of unlocking the magic more consistently.

Right, that’s me done, see you in the comments. x

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  1. Ishola70

    azed
    “The only thing Poch is better than Emery at are things that are immeasurable like sauciness and style of play…”

    That’s not true though is it.

    Poch went through a whole EPL season conceding only 26 goals.

    Could you see Emery doing this considering he couldn’t even make significant inroads into Wenger’s poor goals against record last few seasons?

    The real disappointing thing is that Emery actually stated that Wenger’s team had lost “defensive structure” . Good I thought he has identified a problem here. This means he will address it. Well it wasn’t addressed if the goals against column have anything to say.

  2. azed

    “We’ve seen neither in the last two games mate so have yourself a seat with another belter of a comment there, you must be lightheaded.”

    Well Poch style hasn’t delivered any in the last two games……. what’s your point?

  3. Receding Hairline

    Funny thing about all this is Pochettino once felt it necessary to publicly thank Emery for recommending him for a job, that it was an honor and all. As a young coach in Spain he would have picked up a thing or two from Emery.

    Even he will argue against the Emery is clueless and garbage line, that’s the one that has stuck with me. Clueless and garbage.. Unai Emery..boggles the mind

  4. Marko

    Since when ‘gross spend’ has become a thing ? Net spend is all that matters

    Net spend is all that matters when you’ve got a weak ass argument. If the argument is austerity and meagre budgets then that’s met with money spent

  5. Ishola70

    Azed

    Tell us when Emery will go through a whole EPL season conceding only 26 goals.

    You have said it’s only about sauciness with Poch.

    That is not true.

  6. azed

    “That goal tally was purely down to us having two potent goal scorers in Auba and Laca. Don’t conflate their effectiveness with Emery’s non existent style.”

    TR7
    Emery
    Big chances created 72

    Poch
    Big chances created 64

    Emery created more big chances with Iwobi and Mhkitaryan…

    I await your excuse telling me Iwobi is better than Son.

  7. azed

    Ishola

    What was the end result of Poch going the season conceding only 26 goals?

    That’s like saying you attended all classes and failed to graduate….What’s the point?

  8. Just Another Customer

    Just don’t let the fact that Saucy Poch is currently their manager make you deny his potential be one of the best managers.

    It reeks of jealousy and of the fox and the grapes.

  9. Marko

    He was comically whiny the other day when discussing his project and our project pre-NLD but he had a point. He said we have bought the best goal scorer in Germany, the best striker in France, then Pepe, and they…..haven’t.

    Emphasis on the comically. How many years since the stadium move did we buy those players. Poch himself loves to play the poverty angle

  10. Ishola70

    lol where do these stats come from and who compiles them.

    Not just these latest ones shown but so many on here.

    Stats are only as good as the compiler but yet they are thrown around like the gospel on here.

  11. TR7

    Marko

    ‘Net spend is all that matters when you’ve got a weak ass argument. If the argument is austerity and meagre budgets then that’s met with money spent’

    If you lose RVP and replace them with Podolski and Giroud, at best you maintain status quo. You don’t grow as team. You grow when you add Podolski.and Giroud on top of RVP. Gross spend is a misleading stat

  12. PieAFC

    CC

    “Put any of Pep, Klopp, or Poch in charge of our squad and we achieve more than we’re currently getting. Think it’s reached the point where any denial of that is done from a padded room”

    100%

  13. Ishola70

    azed

    They finished 2nd in the league with only 26 goals conceded.

    But’s that not the point is it.

    The point is you were giving out falsehoods saying Poch is only about worthless style and no substance.

    Plenty of substance wouldn’t you think to get wibbly wobbly Spurs to only concede 26 goals throughout a whole season.

    And what has been Arsenal’s main weakness for god knows how long now azed?

  14. TR7

    Azed

    ‘TR7
    Emery
    Big chances created 72Poch
    Big chances created 64’

    This stat is again misleading if you don’t contextualize it with no of chances opposition teams created against Arsenal and Spurs.

  15. Mysticleaves

    “Stats are only as good as the compiler but yet they are thrown around like the gospel on here.”

    You mean the wah you have been using “once conceded 26 goals” as a metric of some sort here? Yea says so much about you Ishola

  16. Champagne charlie

    “Well Poch style hasn’t delivered any in the last two games……. what’s your point?“

    Azed you miss the forest for the trees. Earlier you talked up how poor Poch’s record is in 2019….but he still finished above us and made a CL final in tandem.

    Poch and Spurs are in a proper state, out of form, players angling for moves, disarray behind the scenes. Still we had to snatch a draw after being 2-0 at home. Your man ain’t special, time to let the smelling salts do their thing.

    Tearing Poch down doesn’t build Emery up.

  17. Pedro

    Not sure you’re fit to debate finances if you think gross spend is the way to judge a manager and net spend is ‘weak ass’

  18. Ishola70

    Mystic

    You are not serious surely.

    Are you comparing such a bare stat as goals against to a wider implied stat such as “big” chances created.

    How “big” do these chances have to be? Slightly “big, semi- “big”, “big-big” or just plain old “big” lol

  19. Champagne charlie

    “The good news for various on here is that Emery likely doesn’t get a contract extension”

    Various?

    All surely?

  20. Samesong

    Its amazing the difference that 1 point made last season.

    Poch wouldn’t be getting so much air time.

    Poch isn’t ruthless enough for my liking. 2-0 up they should of battered us. They still could not find a way to beat us.

    And Emery is just a tinker man.

  21. Marko

    Amidst the same pointless drivel as ever it is worth noting how big it is that Guendouzi got his first french call up after a promising start to the season

  22. Receding Hairline

    No pain at all, I will simply look at the next manager and hope he succeeds…criticize him when need arises and praise him when he does well under whatever circumstances we happen to find ourselves then.

    I certainly won’t come out with words like clueless and garbage.

  23. azed

    “Stats are only as good as the compiler but yet they are thrown around like the gospel on here.”

    So why have you been throwing stats around?

  24. Champagne charlie

    Tr7

    Says a lot. The aspirations should be sky high, we should be dreaming of the days we can embarrassingly deride players like Mahrez for being pony.

    Instead we’re in a position of saying Torreira will come good and we’re Bellerin away from being transformed. We’re not, he’s good, but we’re not getting judged on our clobber here.

  25. Receding Hairline

    Imagine in 2005/2006 someone posted on here that we were rubbish in the league and only finished fourth due to Spurs having players out through food poisoning because Wenger was prioritizing the champions league.

  26. Freddie Ljungberg

    CC

    “Quite telling that we’ve spent 200 mil in two seasons”

    27m Saliba not here until next season

    25m Tierney hasn’t kicked a ball in anger for us yet

    72m Pepe has played less than 3 games

    That’s 124 of those 200m with less than 3 games between them, but sure, use it as a club to beat Emery with. If we don’t see improvement by January then by all means go crazy but this is just ridiculous.

  27. Ishola70

    Azed

    Because goals against stat is bare fact.

    Big chances created is not a bare fact. It’s a compilers interpretation.

  28. Leftsidesanch

    Samesong its been announced as a loan. Some report that theres an option to buy and some say its just a 1 year loan.

  29. Ishola70

    Azed

    Surely we can agree that Emery needs to make inroads into the poor goals against record.

    That he didn’t do this in his first season after talking about lack of defensive structure under Wenger was a poor aspect really in his first year.

    Unlike others on here though I hope he can make progress in this aspect.

  30. Champagne charlie

    Freddie

    Put the full quote in there, some might think you’re angling.

    “Quite telling that we’ve spent 200 mil in two seasons and we’re still hearing excuses from 3 years ago about Xhaka being a fuckwit”

    So some folk aren’t talking up how pony some players are and absolving the manager for it? Suggest you have a read at all offerings and not just your fave bunch you like to throw mud at.

    4 games into the new season and the players are crap is back in the mix.

  31. azed

    “Azed you miss the forest for the trees.
    Earlier you talked up how poor Poch’s record is in 2019….but he still finished above us and made a CL final in tandem.
    Poch and Spurs are in a proper state, out of form, players angling for moves, disarray behind the scenes. Still we had to snatch a draw after being 2-0 at home. Your man ain’t special, time to let the smelling salts do their thing.”

    You are mistaken CC, Its you, Pedro, and TR7 are missing the forest for the trees.
    If style, vision and Sauce were all you guys make it out to be, then Poch would not have needed a missed Aubermayang penalty to finish in the top 4.

    Poch has been building his squad for 6 years and he still gets a pass while Emery is just in the second year of his journey and he gets killed.

    You guys(TR7, CC and Pedro) cannot have one rule for Emery and another set of rules for other managers.

    Someone said if Pep, Poch or Klopp were in charge of our squad, they would have beaten Spurs, the idiot forgot that Pep played Spurs drew two weeks ago drew 2-2. Can anyone say our squad is better than City?

  32. TR7

    CC

    Last season we were told our squad was basically Wenger’s squad even though we added 5 new players. In the current team, only Laca, Auba, Bellerin and Xhaka are Wenger era players of which the first three are valuable to our squad. So quite predictably the usual suspects have started shifting all the blame now on to Xhaka. If only Xhaka weren’t there, Emery would have led us up the golden path. I am not a fan of Xhaka myself but I find it very amusing how the agenda is slowly changing from blame Wenger-Gazidis to blame Xhaka.

  33. azed

    “Surely we can agree that Emery needs to make inroads into the poor goals against record.”

    Emery said he would rather win 5-4 than 1-0.
    Newcastle conceded less goals than us would you rather trade positions with them?

  34. azed

    “Because goals against stat is bare fact.”

    Goals scored is also a bare fact and we scored more than Spurs……

    How can a bland, timid Emery team outscore red hot Poch’s team?

  35. TR7

    Ishola

    ‘Xhaka has always been a problem TR7.’

    Few have railed against Xhaka and Mustafi more than I have on here but I am talking about the subtle shift in agenda of pro Emery guys.

  36. Ishola70

    azed
    ”Emery said he would rather win 5-4 than 1-0.
    Newcastle conceded less goals than us would you rather trade positions with them?”

    Why are we talking about Newcastle for azed?

    We should be looking up.

    You don’t want to follow a team that are involved in sunday park football scorelines do you?

    That’s amateurish.

  37. azed

    “Big chances created is not a bare fact. It’s a compilers interpretation.”

    Ishola

    Also remember to say this when Pedro and co bring up xG, sauce,blandness and the likes…

  38. azed

    I have said it before and I would say it again
    Pedro should write a post on how we would judge managers at the end of the season.

    The only Caveat is all criteria must be measurable and not subject different interpretations.

  39. Receding Hairline

    Maybe people are talking about Xhaka because he had a poor game just yesterday.. Not everything is geared around agendas

    Did we concede two needless goals yesterday through individual errors? Yes

    So what’s the agenda?

  40. Freddie Ljungberg

    CC

    Well, Xhaka is crap, it’s on Emery that he picks him although I can kind of see where he’s coming from. All our experienced players bar Auba and Laca are our worst performers basically so if none of them play we’re a very young team. Still, Xhaka shouldn’t start for us in the league.

    Stop making out like you’re some kind of victim here CC, I just pointed out that your 200m spent claim while technically true doesn’t mean anything at this stage. Grow up.

  41. Champagne charlie

    TR7

    I know, the evolution of excuses is something to behold. Utterly predictable too, I think myself and Unaai had a chuckle along the lines that this would be the excuse for next season and what do you know.

    Some still clinging desperately to the idea anything Wenger contacted is tainted etc. Personally I think we’ve simply brought in someone who hasn’t the meat and veg to impose his ideas (of which are questionable).

    Even the poor players of the current squad can turn in ‘better’ performances under better management imo, let alone some of the more talented boys.

    If I were to assign a percentage to how much Emery is getting out the squad it would be circa 60%. Poch at Spurs I’m recent seasons would be circa 90%, Pep and Klopp circa 95+%.

    Figures pulled out my arse but it illustrates that I think the biggest issue at hand is the inability to utilise the players we have. This targeted scapegoating is a distraction if you ask me.

  42. Chris

    Not sure if Allegri still had a contract past last season, but he was speaking of taking time out from the game. Seems the decision to leave Juve suited both club and coach. The year before he was having English lessons. I would take him instantly if he was interested. I think he would be more keen next summer than he may have been last year.

    The style discussion is interesting regarding Juve and Sarri. If there is evidence that Sarriball is taking hold but Juve fall short of winning Serie A, would they stick with him? I’m not convinced. Juve is all about the winning, even in this day and age. Ronaldo gets them their social media hits.

  43. Goonah

    We should investigate if we could persue criminal charges for buying Xhaka and Mustafi. There is absolutely no doubt we were royaly shafted!

  44. Pedro

    Chris, interesting to see what Edu decides… he’s come from a pragmatist background in Brazil, so Allegri would be a straight forward choice.

  45. Champagne charlie

    Freddie

    Victim? Christ you’re soft.

    “Well, Xhaka is crap, it’s on Emery that he picks him although I can kind of see where he’s coming from”

    That just about does it for you. Happy to acknowledge an issue and absolve Emery all in the one sentence. Up the hill we go again.

  46. Olumide

    It’s funny how people here can call a manager “great” when he has never won a trophy.
    It’s also funny how you can discuss great managers and say something like “trophy isn’t all that matters.”
    Of course, trophies is all that matters.
    Why are Barca and Real Madrid the biggest team in Spain?
    Why are Liverpool and Man United the biggest team in England?
    Not style of play. Trophies.
    Everything Poch has achieved, Emery has achieved. Plus Emery has 10 more trophies.
    And for those talking about style of play, Emery has now played Poch 3 times in the league with a worse squad in at least 2 of those matches.
    Who played the better football in those matches? Who got more points?

  47. Freddie Ljungberg

    from 7am:

    “With Mkhitaryan, Ramsey, Cech, Lich, Monreal, Iwobi, Elneny and Jenkinson off the books Arsenal have shaved £44m off the annual expenditures on player salaries. Adding back in Pepe, Ceballos, Luiz, Martinelli, Willock, and Nelson, plus an increase to Guendouzi, Arsenal still saved over £30m in salary this year. ”

    Also saving in the 10m we had to pay Wenger and his staff last year so that’s 40m added to the budget just in wages saved. Pretty impressive, just a shame we couldn’t get any decent fees for some of the wasters.

  48. Paulinho

    What exactly is Pochettino’s philosophy?

    He seems similar to Emery in that whatever players he has available dictates how his teams play. When Delle, Eriksen, Kane, and Son are fit they are all naturally compliment each other, with Delle making off the ball runs and Eriksen dropping deep, yet when anyone of them are injured Spurs basically make it up as they go along. They end up using their physicality in whatever way they can, with very little pattern of play to speak of. Lumping up to Llorente last season was very ‘chameleon’ like.

  49. TR7

    Receding

    ‘Did we concede two needless goals yesterday through individual errors? Yes’

    Pray tell why we were carved open at the back every time Spurs launched a counter attack on us even as Emery picked 3 DMs in our line up ? Do you think we employed wrong tactics or do you think we are not drilled defensively or all this is just due to Xhaka ? Saying all of it is due to Xhaka is agenda. Deliberately missing the wood for the trees.

  50. azed

    “All data is subject to interpretation.
    You just tried to frame Emery’s end of season demise as a penalty miss.”

    Pedro

    Not all data is subject to person interpretation…

    You also framed Poch’s end season failure as plan because he was going to the UCL final.

  51. Champagne charlie

    Pedro

    I wish we’d went pragmatist right after Wenger, we were crying out for it with the frailties we’d exhibited for the last handful of seasons.

    I mean I’d have loved a proper go with it and seen someone green get a look, but with more and more time it seems we’re crying out for someone that can send us out with a shred of sense in how to be hard to beat.

  52. Chris

    Pedro

    Yeah what Edu does next in terms of the coach will be very telling. He will know the defence needs sorting out. I hope the next choice of coach reflects that.

  53. Redtruth

    Emery is getting the max out of the Squad. …

    Kolasinac-Donkey
    Xhaka-2 Donkeys
    Maitland-Novice
    Mkhitaryan-Joke
    Sokratis-Lumbering Ox.
    Cellabos-Lightweight
    Torriera-Midget
    Leno-Butter fingers
    Lacazette-Tubby c***
    Aubameyang-Lazy
    Pepe-Gifted.

  54. Receding Hairline

    TR7 it’s called a counter attack for a reason, means one team were on the attack lost the ball and were countered. Why were Spurs carved open in normal play if they had one of the best managers in the world up against a clueless idiot?

    And Guendouzi isn’t a DM nor is Xhaka a defensive anything, this three DM line is nonsense

  55. Freddie Ljungberg

    CC

    “Suggest you have a read at all offerings and not just your fave bunch you like to throw mud at.”

    Who’s soft exactly? I see you’re going to do the whole spinning around in circles thing again, I’m not interested.

    “Well, Xhaka is crap, it’s on Emery that he picks him although I can kind of see where he’s coming from. All our experienced players bar Auba and Laca are our worst performers basically so if none of them play we’re a very young team. Still, Xhaka shouldn’t start for us in the league.”

    Yeah, I really absolved Emery there, maybe work on your reading comprehension when you’re not too busy not getting into arguments.

  56. Ishola70

    Pedro
    “Gambon’s xG push proved out. Not sure he’s upset about being correct.”

    And on another day it won’t prove out.

    As you correctly said all open to interpretation.

    Can give indications of course but some hold them a bit too dear to their hearts.

  57. Chris

    CC

    Totally agree. I remember when Martinez took over from Moyes at Everton. He benefited from the defensive organisation previously instilled and allowed the players to venture forward more to attack. It worked for one season but sometimes I think we could have enjoyed the reverse of that, if you like. All the attacking qualities we possessed with a defensively sound coach making us hard to beat at the same time.

  58. Silverhawk

    So many pro spuds people on an arsenal blog. It’s comical.

    If Poch was this all great coach who is better than Emery, why do people have to defend him so ferociously?

    If the argument was about klopp and emery, who wins? Or pep and emery?.

    That we’re here comparing both shows that they are comparable to start with.

    Emery trumps Poch in all measurable categories. You mention it.

    I’m not talking about silly tags like sauce or hot or some shit. I’m talking about tangible stats.

    Let the Poch fans answer that. Forget about context. Just straight up facts.

    I’d like Pedro to answer this too if he’s so sure about it.

  59. Freddie Ljungberg

    “If I were to assign a percentage to how much Emery is getting out the squad it would be circa 60%. Poch at Spurs I’m recent seasons would be circa 90%, Pep and Klopp circa 95+%.”

    Sorry if it seems like I’m picking on you Charlie but when you come out with absolute belters like this it just can’t be helped.

    We were getting 60% out of a piss poor unbalanced squad last year and still managed to finish 2 points off 3rd? We must have the best players in the world then, who would have thought. Smh.

  60. TR7

    Paulinho

    A well oiled defense further protected by two big guys im front of them of which one sits back while the other plays slightly forward to help in attack but still never loses the sight of his duties in defense. Of the 4 forward players, one guy is entrusted with the task of making off the ball runs while the other 3 are your traditional wingers and strikers. When Spurs don’t have the ball, all players try to either get in to defensive positions or press from their respective positions. Their physical midfielders try to win the ball off from opposition and as soon as they do it, you have off the ball runner making runs and at least one winger sprinting to get in to attacking areas. At least one of the two full backs joins the attack. That’s how Spurs have played under Poch over the years. Your point about their style going for a toss when certain players are missing is valid but it is more.down to lack of depth in their squad.

  61. Champagne charlie

    Chris

    I think the whole club needs a stark reminder of what a stable base is all about and why it’s so valuable.

    I love our progressive and fluid ideology, but it’s not well balanced and in many ways utterly dismissive to the art of defending. We need a hard reset imo, I’d gladly witness the evolution of us into a dogged impenetrable side for a few seasons that will give us a platform for future expansive, but winning, football.

    Ideally you want both. But next gaffer has to lean on the defensive side if he can’t do the lot imo, Allegri, Simeone, Conte, Rafa sorts.

  62. Silverhawk

    I’m still waiting for the answers. I doubt if any would be able to answer tho. And that ladies and gentlemen, is the answer to the arguments.

  63. Chris

    CC

    Yep, would love to go 1-0 up again and know in all likelihood the game is won. Simeone the closest comparison I can think of in terms of peak George Graham teams. And a surprising amount of people forget that we played some swash buckling stuff under him too, the last couple of years excepted. After the end run of 91-92 we didn’t really sparkle too often under him.

    I don’t mean to bark back to him at all but that’s the doggedness we need again, and I do believe with all the attacking talent we now have we would be far from a boring side having added defensive resoluteness. Like you say it is possible to have both.

  64. TR7

    RH

    ‘TR7 it’s called a counter attack for a reason, means one team were on the attack lost the ball and were countered. ‘

    So you are saying we were not suspect at the back the entire first half ? And that bringing a CAM did not put the pressure back on to Spurs in 2nd half which ideally he should have done when he picked his 11 for the game ?

  65. N5

    Oh I just saw Silver, I missed it the first time around! Just for confirmation are you asking people to tell you what areas Poch trumps Emery?

  66. Paulinho

    “Of the 4 forward players, one guy is entrusted with the task of making off the ball runs ”

    This is the thing; whenever Delle is missing I don’t see any off the ball runs in organised play. Delle will make runs beyond even if the opposition are dropping off but when he is not there I only see Sissoko and Co making runs when obvious gaps appear on the counter.

    I mentioned it last year, but it’s the mental calmness that Poch imparts that seems to be his greatest strength. They never get flustered or rattled, and it was on that basis(along with physicality) they I predicted them to beat City and Ajax.. Best poker-face team in Europe.

  67. Receding Hairline

    TR7 we were suspect at the back the entire game. This idea Ceballos made us defensively more solid is simply being put forward because many felt he should have started. He gave away the ball for three of the counters in the second half.

    And Spurs were under pressure even when we had three alleged DM’s on the pitch.

  68. Champagne charlie

    Chris

    I said the same earlier on the subject of whether we should be more pragmatic this season. Some talked about how it would disrupt our attack and for the life of me I can’t see how in this current side.

    For me we’re pretty average in attack as is and rely heavily on individual ingenuity vs any pretty patterns of play or dominance. A resolute and competent defence would only serve to strengthen us as I see it. Not buying for a second that we’d suddenly be peak Bolton, more like a sexier Leicester.

  69. Freddie Ljungberg

    We’re basically playing our second string back 4 now, with poor fullbacks and 2 stop gaps at CB, hopefully that will all change over the next couple of weeks with Bellerin Holding and Tierney back. With Saliba coming next season and maybe another addition in CB if needed it’s looking a lot more competent than it does now.

    Xhaka obviously also needs replacing asap with a non idiot. If Emery is not cutting it then boot him out in the summer and get someone else in with bad teeth so the usual suspects have something to whinge about.

  70. Silverhawk

    N5

    Yes basically. That’s the question. Let anyone who feels Poch is better rationally outline them. I don’t mean things like he can build a squad, has a pattern, etc. Even Dyche has that and can do that.

    I mean basic stats like achievements, win ratio, clubs managed, etc

  71. Edu me a favour

    Wouldn’t it be great if emery was doing a sneaky little madness and giving xhaka the rope to hang himself with , putting him right in the middle of at all to really get exposed

    Ohhhh the saucy little bastard he would be if he were doing that – here’s to hoping 😂

  72. Champagne charlie

    Goonah

    Why Benitez? My manager of choice is Allegri, has been for a while.

    Both are at a different level but work from similar perspectives. With Allegri I’d be confident of good progress towards title challengers with a longer term vision in place.

    With a Rafa it would be shorter term and more a question of giving us an astute pair of hands that can offset our weaknesses whilst we make the elite moves in recruitment. Top 4 status reclaimed and cup runs etc.

  73. Champagne charlie

    Goonah

    Allegri turned us down two years ago, the playing staff has seen a 200 mil investment since then plus whatever he’d have access to that summer. Not the same beast at all.

    Simeone and Conte might have clubs, but 12 months is a long time in football – outside the consideration for what Emery should be afforded, which is time upon time, with some added time.

  74. MidwestGun

    Pedro-
    Good post today… I agree with it… 99.99% I think what a lot of people wont admit to you. is you have been spot on in regards to Emery from the beginning and it is being proved out.. Extremely average manager. Wont be here long.

    As for Poch… can I just say I wouldn’t want Poch or Emery… they both aren’t cut out for the PL… cant hack the strain and both have shown no ability to win the games that matter. Takes a special manager to be able to handle the stress and expectations at the top leve in all competitions. . I truly hope we go with a manager that knows the PL and what it takes at Arsenal.. Freddie or Vieira for me would be good choices given our recent surge in youth players and a need for defensive awareness.
    But bottom line…… fuck Poch. Same way I feel about Mourinho … fuck no. Don’t need the baggage.

    Also,,, love that Miki is off to Roma apparently…. Yes!! think my man Edu might be pulling some strings from behind the curtain.. slowly ridding us the error prone over paid axis of evil which has hindered us for many seasons now.. Mustafi, Xhaka and Ozil next and I’m in my happy place.

  75. Just Another Customer

    Yeah I guess both Pochettino and Emery are just one and the same – pathetic loser of the European cup final.

    Just compare how the campaign of each club for that tournament.

  76. Olumide

    Silverhawk
    You won’t get answers to a question like that.
    All you’d hear is that Poch has a style of play and trophies don’t matter because Tottenham are a small club.
    Sevilla must be a big fvcking club for Emery to win 3 trophies there.

  77. Champagne charlie

    Goonah

    Next manager needs to address the defence, period. We can’t continue this embarrassing status quo that is Arsenal = fragile

  78. Un na naai

    TR7 it’s called a counter attack for a reason, means one team were on the attack lost the ball and were countered. Why were Spurs carved open in normal play if they had one of the best managers in the world up against a clueless idiot?

    Erm
    Because we’ve got the better squad and spurs are all over the place with malcontents aplenty

  79. Un na naai

    MidwestGunSeptember 2, 2019 21:51:16
    Pedro-
    Good post today… I agree with it… 99.99% I think what a lot of people wont admit to you. is you have been spot on in regards to Emery from the beginning and it is being proved out.. Extremely average manager. Wont be here long.

    Midwest
    You’re always honest man. Good fella.
    He’s not the only one though.

  80. Receding Hairline

    We were light years behind them now we have the better squad…seems the great things Poch built didn’t take much to catch up with eh Don? By the way we don’t have the better squad we just have better options upfront. There is more to a squad than having two supposed potent strikers. We might end up with the better squad though if our returning full backs live up to our fantasies of what they can do.

    No one has still explained why a world class coach with a defined style of play drilled over five years is finding it difficult to outplay a clueless one is his second year let alone beat him in three league games.

  81. KAY Boss

    I wonder if this is an Arsenal blog. We (some of us) slated Wenger for not winning a trophy in about 9yrs yet people on here are praising a so called saucy coach who has won nothing in his managerial carrier.
    Question to all. If it were Emery who surrendered a two goal lead, what will have been the reaction of Poch lovers. Look, Poch is good but IMO Emery is far ahead of him. Most Poch lovers have either been poisoned by the love of the media toward Spurs or just your disdain for Emery.
    It’s just four games and even Pepe isn’t spared some of the criticism (some harsh).
    Maybe previous success of Arsenal has made some overly critical. If you want to enjoy Arsenal this season, just lower your expectations.

  82. MidwestGun

    Goonah-
    They know about as much as Klopp did when he took over for Dortmund after getting Mainz relegated… they know about as much as Pep did when he took over Barca from the youth team. Y’all act like managers just appeared out of nowhere at the top level. Freddie has experience managing youth side… like Pep.. Vieira is managing a team in a top league like Klopp. . Id prefer not to rehash a manager with a bunch of baggage to be honest. Its a risk sure but so is doing nothing and clogging along with no chance of super success. I’m all for taking a chance. Anyhow.. it matters not until May… We aren’t sacking Emery with only a year left on his contract.. as long as he can get us CL.. will be like thank you for your service. Good luck with your future if I was Edu.

  83. MidwestGun

    Un na na-

    Pedro is the only one with a blog… I know Gambon’s negative azz was too.. lol But Pedro was the only one putting it out there.. for all to read in the goonersphere and opening himself to twitter hate. So I give him credit. Would be easier to ride the fence.

  84. Silverhawk

    Olumide

    Tbh I wasn’t aspect expecting a reply from any of them. I’ve already nullified their points with such question.

  85. Un na naai

    Receding HairlineSeptember 2, 2019 22:17:23
    We were light years behind them now we have the better squad…seems the great things Poch built didn’t take much to catch up with eh Don?

    Hairline

    If you go back to last season I clearly stated that I I rated our squad at least as good as united, Chelsea and spurs.

    Now I consider ours better

    Poch was clearly working under considerable financial restraints to fund the stadium too yet still produced a side capable of challenging for honours while we tread water
    Most of spurs’ side have been gems and youth promotions. He’s worked with them. Improved them. Galvanised them.
    Every summer they sell on one of their previous youth players for big dough and reinvest it around the team often to great effect.

  86. Un na naai

    He’s turned an underdog into a force in Europe on a budget.

    And by Europe I mean it’s premier completion. Not the also ran cup

  87. Ishola70

    Silverhawk

    I’ve downplayed Poch on here while others were putting him in the bracket with Klopp and Guardiola.

    But the man did only concede 26 goals in the EPL a few seasons back something that Emery can only dream about at this point and Arsenal are crying out for a manager that can put these defensive woes of the club behind them.

    Poch does have something about him if he can accomplish this in one season with a club such as Spurs who like Arsenal have been seen as soft touches defensively in the past.

  88. Un na naai

    Midwest

    I beg to differ.

    There was a real split here over emery. Myself CC Pierre Tr7 Valentin and Gambon were all very vocal in our disappointment and skepticism upon the announcement of emery as new head coach.

  89. Ishola70

    Don

    You’re deluded if you think Arsenal had an overall better squad than Spurs last season.

    But then again probably not deluded just you putting put a falsehood so you can bash Emery.

  90. azed

    “Emery trumps Poch in all measurable categories. You mention it.

    I’m not talking about silly tags like sauce or hot or some shit. I’m talking about tangible stats.”

    Silverhawk

    This has been my argument all day long. You cannot say Emery is trash and still say Poch is good…. It defies logic

    The same people who expect Emery to produce magic are making excuses for Poch.

  91. Un na naai

    Ishola70September 2, 2019 22:36:00
    Don You’re deluded if you think Arsenal had an overall better squad than Spurs last season.

    Ishola

    Care to expand on how the club forces emery to pick xakha as a homage to Wenger??

    Looooool
    Hey ishola, the moon, is it real?
    Hey ishola, is the queen a lizard?

  92. Un na naai

    The same people who expect Emery to produce magic are making excuses for Poch.

    How? Did you not watch spurs last season?
    Or the season before?

    Have you been watching how shit we’ve been since emery joined? With a bigger club and a bigger budget not to mention a better playing squad.

  93. Ishola70

    All this talk of who is better is by the by.

    Better in what way? What they have acheived previously in the second tier cups?

    What the question should be is who would be the better manager for specifically Arsenal FC.

    And I’m sorry but if Emery can’t improve on this awful defensive record this season then people will naturally lean towards Poch as being a better choice to manage Arsenal than Emery.

  94. azed

    “There was a real split here over emery. Myself CC Pierre Tr7 Valentin and Gambon were all very vocal in our disappointment and skepticism upon the announcement of emery as new head coach.”

    Actually Gambon thought Emery was a great appointment.

  95. Ishola70

    Don

    Answer the question and stop trolling.

    In what universe did Arsenal have the better squad than Spurs last season?

  96. Victorious

    Mr bland is such a dud and it’s just so painful we will continue to witness such show of fear and timidness in his team selections until the end of season

    Playing Mikhi a day before binning him was just so idiotic,Mihki is a terrible player, a truly cumbersome wanker, has a touch of a rapist and it’s just so infuriating that he had a couple of decent chances to really win that game for us

    Nelson or Martinelli would have been so much better, Sanchez was shaking all match and Mr bland subs in a static Mikki to ensure its 2 points dropped for us

    What if in he injured himself in his pretence of being a football player, that would surely have scupperd his move, no? Really no point in playing him is all

    Literally can’t wait to see what the Emery groupie do with themselves when he inevitably gets binned soon, such a joke coach .

  97. MidwestGun

    Un na na –
    Can’t count Pierre sorry he would have criticized anyone not named Wenger, he was just here initially to troll his be careful what you wish for agenda. I can not count people who were never even remotely objective.. I know Pedro enough to know he would at least take in opinions before deciding. Pierre is one crazy pill away from being CG. 😀

  98. azed

    “With a bigger club and a bigger budget not to mention a better playing squad.”?

    Lol

    Lloris vs Leno
    Toby vs Sokratis
    Vertoghen vs Luiz
    Sanchez vs AMN
    Rose vs Kolasinac
    Sissoko vs Torriera
    Winks vs Winks
    Ericksen vs Xhaka
    Kane vs Lacazette
    Son vs Aubermayang
    Lamela vs Pepe

  99. Paulinho

    TR7 – No I don’t. He adapts to what he has available. If people peg him as someone that likes his team to pass and keep it on the ground, then Emery should get that tag as well.

    Spurs were good and exciting to watch when one of their deep-lying centre mids was Dembele, and he dribbled from deep with great effect, and as soon as he departed they started plodding through matches. I often remark during matches on their shoot-on-sight tactic with Eriksen and that’s what a lot of their matches seemed to have devolved into.

    That’s not necessarily a criticism either, as I think philosophies are only as good as the players in the squad. If the personnel are not available(and it’s not with us) I want a pragmatic manager who is not wedded to a particular way of playing.

  100. UTarse

    I will put money on it that the “fans” who are bigging up the spuds and poch in this debate weren’t at the game yesterday. Fuck Tottenham and their “overachieving” manager, I couldn’t give a monkeys.

    why would you need to defend a Tottenham manager to showcase an argument that you don’t think Unai is good enough ?

  101. azed

    Un

    “gambonMay 22, 2018 09:08:06
    Is that the sound of Arsenal hipster tears falling into their Eucalyptus Macchiatos with Armadillo Milk? Fantastic appointment of Emery.

    We’re not in a position to be winning back to back leagues and the CL. Emerys job will be to put structure in place, get us back into the CL and clear up Wengers mess.
    As for Arteta, what an absolute joke of an idea that was.”

  102. Paulinho

    I went on Glory-Glory and here is a comment from one of their fans:

    Poch is going through a new phase of his career. For the first time now, he has a group of experienced players – some world cup winners, all seasoned internationals and now champions league finalists. They are not all 22 year old kids you can absolutely flog to death.

    “So far, I’m yet to see that he can find an alternative to the high-octane, all-action pressing style that worked well in the first couple of seasons with a youthful, willing squad and a small & compact WHL pitch. Since the start of last season, I haven’t seen any discernible tactics, shape or objectives. I don’t know what sort of team we are anymore. ”

    So, even a Spurs fan is none the wiser in working out what Poch is trying to do these days.

  103. azed

    Ishola70May 22, 2018 09:10:28
    Very good post from Pedro today.
    Heart felt stuff and that’s even if you don’t agree with him.And he may unfortunately be correct in more than enough of his analysis.
    The hiring of Emery says more about the Arsenal football club of today than it does about Unai Emery.

  104. azed

    HighburyLegendMay 22, 2018 09:13:42

    “Arteta has as much charisma as a cup of piss. ”
    lol“Emerys job will be to put structure in place, get us back into the CL and clear up Wengers mess.”
    Spot on gambon, that’s all we need from him for now.

  105. azed

    “Freddie LjungbergMay 22, 2018 09:15:55
    Guns
    I don’t mean succeed as in winning the CL and the title, we’re so far away from that atm it’s not even funny. His first priority is building a good squad and move us up the table, after that we’ll see where we’re at.

    I think he’s more likely to do that because he’s an actual manager you know, as opposed to Peps nr 5 assistant coach.
    You know, logic.

  106. azed

    “Ishola70May 22, 2018 09:17:48
    I would be very surprised if Emery gets CL football by league placing in his first two year stint but he could pop up with a Europa League and get back in CL through the side door.
    But then again was surprised at his appointment in the first place.”

  107. azed

    For those who think Marko is an EKB

    “MarkoMay 22, 2018 10:18:04
    The other thing with Emery is that if things don’t work out I see no reason why we’d have a problem sacking him. He’s been sacked before and with some of the backroom staff departures we’re seeing maybe Raul is a little bit more ruthless too. Cause you just know with Arteta we’d just kick the can down the road even if it obviously wasn’t working out he’d be given an extra couple years. He’s dreamy looking you know”

  108. azed

    “champagne charlieMay 22, 2018 10:34:25
    Pedro
    I get the deflating nature of Emery when compared to the myriad of exciting options Arsenal had at hand, but you’ve got to shelf that when appraising his work. You’re going OTT about losing the league to Monaco, there was no ‘one horse race’ there and you’re certainly smart enough to appreciate that cmon man.You’d be an incredibly harsh judge to pick apart his undertakings at PSG, that place may have all the ambition and money in the world but the structure is nonsensical. Neymar was bought and he instantly was a bigger influence than the manager. That breeds contempt within the dressing room, but Emery had no power to influence anything purely because if it came down to it PSG would sack off the 5 mil manager as opposed to the 250 mil player.He’s a coach, a thinker, a tactician, an adapter, a genuinely smart guy who can extract the good from mediocre. That’s very apt for the current situation at Arsenal, and personally I see him as a transitional manager before we really go full tilt into a new direction, so don’t write it up as the big opportunity gone. It’s not.

  109. Redtruth

    David Luiz has worked under some of the best coaches who have been unable to curb his rashness. Point being, players are to hlame not Emery.
    Emery needs top quality players to win honours.

  110. Ishola70

    azed what’s with all this creepy regurgitating of posts from way back.

    What are you trying to prove or point out.

    As you see from my two posts that you felt you needed to haul from the past archives I have hedged my bets on Emery lol

    In fact I have overwhelmingly been neutral on Emery on here. Always advocating to give him some time before tearing him apart.

    Don’t try to paint me as a hater of Emery because that would be another falsehood from you tonight om here and others will vouch this as untrue as well.