The two sides of ugly

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The manager will be here this summer, of that there is no doubt. My view is things should be improving more rapidly than they are. That view is shared by people who work in and around the club, and those who are paid to write about it on the regular. There is a counter to my view that also makes sense, that is that Emery is grinding out ugly results and we’re in the mixer, which is all anyone ever wanted. His view on taking top 4 is to scrap like a prizefighter and worry about how that looks in the summer.

I just wanted to touch of a few of the arguments. One consistent theme I keep hearing is that the manager doesn’t have the players to affect the performance. I find this view maddening.

Benrd Leno – Internationally capped keeper and a huge upgrade on a declining Cech. The best keeper we’ve had since Lehmann.

Sokratis – Has won titles in Germany, is a natural leader, we all love him because he is mean to other players.

Kola – Bundesliga team of the season. Has 5 assists to his name this year.

Bellerin – Was having a great season. Was tracked by Barca in the summer. One of the best young right backs in the world. Injured, sure, but our defence has been shite all season and he was here for 19 games. Also landed 5 assists.

Koscielny – Would have captained France had he not been injured. Has come back and settled pretty well.

Monreal – Capped for Spain, has been a high performer over the years,  even if his pace is in decline.

Torreira – The first proper DM we’ve had since Patrick Vieira, a superb player. Looked off form of late, but that seems more due to fatigue and the box to box rampage he’s on of late.

Matteo G – 19, but one of our best performers this season.

Xhaka – Captain of Switzerland, master of stats, a player the savants adore.

Mikhi – Title winner at Dortmund. Hasn’t been great, but he’s capable and he assisted the assister. I think we missed him.

Auba – The most clinical striker we’ve had since Thierry. 3rd in EPL top scorers

Lacazette – We all love him. What a striker, probably our most valuable player. Hugely effective. Top 10 EPL scorers. Maybe as cool as Bowie himself. Incredible finisher.

Ramsey – So good, Allegri signed him at Juve. Has played 921 EPL minutes this year.

Mesut – Broken for sure, but the closest thing to world class we have.

Please, spare me the ‘ this squad is so shite’ nonsense. It simply doesn’t correlate with reality or our current league position. It’s so subjective and the margins are paper thin. Chelsea finished 5th last year and are 6th this year under a new manager. They’ve not had a striker all year, given the context of what they are trying to do, is their squad so much better than ours? They’re playing Kante in an advanced position, Jorginho is shite, DL has been targeted, Barkley is awful, their defence shipped 6 vs City and 4 vs Bournemouth, their hail mary was signing Higuain who looks more out of shape than the Tango man. That squad didn’t deliver under Conte in season 2 and it’s failing miserably under a manager who can’t convince the players fancy football is the future. Chelsea didn’t invest in Sarri in the same way many think Arsenal didn’t invest in Emery. They swapped like for like with keepers and added Kovacic on loan and Jorginho was their big signing (and he’s tanked). Will he land a season 2? Doubtful if the players go any harder at ending him.

We should be doing better on the pitch. Our lack of pressing is a focus and discipline issue. You can teach it. There’s no magic approach, you just need to enforce it. Mesut Ozil was dropped because he wouldn’t do it, yet here we are, Mesutless and still not doing it? Spurs press. Leipzig press. Dortmund press. Liverpool press. Why do we not press effectively?

Style should be fairly straight-forward to impose. Emery isn’t teaching Stoke players to express themselves without violence. He’s trying to get players who have literally only artistically expressed themselves for ten years to channel the fancy into something more practical. What I don’t expect is the style to work immediately, however, we’re not even seeing a bad version of the vision, unless I’m missing something?

Klopp went into Liverpool with a shite squad, he had his team playing heavy metal football with average bodies and the big thing was: ‘He just needs a good center back’

Pep implemented his expressive brand of football and he hobbled to 4th in the first season. It was clear what the plan was. They were the best team in the league transitioning from midfield to attack, but they couldn’t play out of the back. So he went out and upgraded on Bacary Sagna at center back and invested in fullbacks better than Zabaleta and Clichy.

Wenger came to Arsenal in October from Japan (no pre-season), added Anelka, Paddy, Garde (relative nobodies) and transformed a group of alcoholics (late in their careers) known for shit football into a team that finished 3rd (joint with 2nd/4th on points) in year one. Anyone doubt where the club was heading? Think about what he did for a second, it was unbelievable, and you think Emery has it bad?

Bielsa taught Championship players his ways, they play explosive attacking football with an outrageously aggressive press. Favre has Dortmund back to their best. Even Stevie G has brought some vision to Rangers in Scotland. My point here is these teams all have worse players, but that hasn’t stopped a vision emerging on the pitch. Even Paddy has Nice conceding under a goal game @ 0.96 down from 1.36.

Arsenal don’t have an ‘if you just did this’ list of players. Why? Because no one knows what we’re shooting for. What was the point of Suarez as far as you can tell? Arsenal don’t have a settled formation. Does anyone think a couple of wide players blows this team up next season? Would that solve for the lack of pressing and the porous defence? I’m not so sure.

Signing a keeper good with his feet hasn’t led to us playing out the back more, against Huddersfield Leno went short 7 times (12% of his total passes). We have defenders who can pass, so what’s the excuse for the hoof? Nacho dropped 85% pass completion, Kos was 90%, Mustafi 74% (iffy, but not awful considering how poor he’s been).

The only plan Emery does rigidly stick to is using his fullbacks to transition the ball forward, which was strugglebus.com against Huddersfield. Kola had particularly bad numbers, but nowhere near the as poor as AMN. You’d take him over Lichtsteiner or Jenko, so obviously I can feel for Emery there. The club is going to need to upgrade there this summer for sure.

It’s crazy to think the club saw a presentation last May that basically said it’s all shit and I have nothing to work, but that’s the narrative now.

My worry here is when I think about the type of players Emery REALLY wanted to solve our issues. Banega, Carrasco, Perisic, Nzonzi and Suarez. Are we moving forward with names like this?

A comment from Valentin in the comments:

At PSG Emery got his own players. All of them flopped and failed to adapt for the more aggressive Ligue 1. He got Krychowiak a year later he was on loan at WestmBrom where he helped to get them relegated. He got Jese, six months later he is on loan at Stoke that he helped get relegated.

Emery tends to favour players he is familiar with. Players who will be grateful for the opportunity and will obey diligently his instructions. The problem is that now he is at a higher level of club, being a diligent tidy players is not enough. You need special talent and none of them ever had that.

Ever Banega, Suarez are good decent players but for the sort of money/salary you expect more. None of them look like the kind of talent that will propel Arsenal forward and catch Liverpool or ManCity.

Broader point: The football is subpar and the fans who go to games are not showing up. The atmosphere is totally sterile. There is no excitement around the club.

However, let’s talk about what is incredible, amazing, and positively life-affirming. For all the cries of ‘we are shit’ from the Emery flag wavers, we are actually sitting in 5th, 1 point behind a resurgent United. We have been dire to watch all season, but we are closer than spitting distance to top four, we’re so tight in on them you can smell the Lynx Africa emanating from the sweaty jowels of Phil Jones. United’s next three games are PSG, Chelsea (FA Cup) then Liverpool, then Palace away. All potential bread mops ready to wipe out the OGS gravy train.

Our next two games are against Bate, who have finished their season. We can rest our players weary legs, then go HARD at Southampton and Bournemouth who we welcome at home. Confidence could be SOARING HIGH before we go to Wembley to topple Spurs annoyingly positive season, followed by United (H), and Wolves (A).

The absolute magic of Emery is that we have been dreadful, but we are still more than in it… he has made winning ugly an art form and it’s working… and really, in the Europa League, we only have to worry about Chelsea (who look finished) and Napoli.

Additionally, the summer is all for Emery. He will have a full preseason. He’ll get to spend £40-100m. I don’t think we’re playing in a tournament. He’ll have all his ducks in order to go hard at next season. Then we’ll see where the football is… then we shall see if patience was indeed a virtue.

Ok, that’s me done. See you in the comments. x

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China1

*disclaimer I’m a big fan of guendouzi and torreira* I’m gonna say something which feels dirty to say and goes against my normal line of thought but is an observation – almost all of arsenal’s best football this season came without guendouzi in the team and with a torr, xhaka, ozil 3. Not always, but more often than not. I’m not sure why but despite their obvious talent, when guen and tor play together our midfield always seems to fail to control the game. Torreira’s form drop coincided almost precisely with xhaka disappearing for guen.ozil is a cunt and brings… Read more »

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Pedro, Why are we not doing better than what you expect. Maybe it’s because everyone above us had better squads already, and we are only stopping the rot and make small inroads into improving. Maybe its because our whole first choice defence has been missing at different stages of the season that they have never been fit to play together? Maybe because the squad was left in such a mess that the back ups were not good enough. To be where we are when you consider everyone out spent us and had better squads to start with I think it’s… Read more »

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China, the problem with guendouzi and torriera isn’t them,playing together it’s the fact without ozil or miki creating you end up with them going forward to try and create something and gaps appear.
Miki looked pretty good, for a guy missing for ten games.
If you put ozil back in and tell him don’t defend just create guen and torriera will so the donkey work, we might get somewhere.

Just don’t put Xhaka anywhere near that team unless it’s Europa league game.

jwl

In three years, if they are still with Arsenal, Torr and Guen will be similar to Petit\Vieira midfield.

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Pedro,

If you have average players you can only improve them so far.
Ferguson could turn an average player into an excellent player.
How many others managers in the last five ten twenty years could do that?
Not many.
Emery can’t turn them into world beaters and not so many in such a short space of time.

Receding Hairline

“He set out to improve the defence, improve the players and one would assume he was tasked with creating a footballing identity that was both modern and effective”.

He was tasked with getting us back into the champions league spending as little as possible. I know you would be all over this particular singular point Pedro if he was failing on it, now we are discussing style and improving Mustafi

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If emery had been given 200 million and bought 7-8 players and we are Sat in sixth.
No problem, he hasn’t improved us so will be moved on.
But,
He was given less money than newly promoted Fulham and four or five other midtable clubs.
He needed 8 positions to recruit for to improve us and got four, and a squad freebie as cover for bellerin.

They were better players than what we had, but none walk into the sides above us.

salpardisenyc

And like that Rambo dropped from the Pierbury Corner menu.

Champagne charlie

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None of our recruits need to walk into the sides above us to improve us do they?

They were better than what we had, so compared to last season we have a better group of players, better manager, and no cloud around the club.

What’s changed?

azed

” it took him a year and £300m on players to rectify losing out to Monaco. He shat the bed badly both attempts at the CL.”

Same Monaco that beat Pep?

By the way, how’s Pep’s record in the Champions League with Bayern and City?

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He was tasked with getting us back into the champions league spending as little as possible.

Receding, that’s exactly it.
And was not given the proper resources to do the job.

We needed a complete rebuild, first new manager in twenty two years, and given the same amount of money that
City, Chelsea, and the bindippers spent on one player.
Utd bought 90m pogba last season.
Only spurs have been lucky in the cheap spend market.

70m to buy 8-9 players and we are still there or there abouts in the Chase I say it’s a miracle.

bennydevito

CG with his chuckle vision on again. Emery wasn’t sacked from PSG he walked because the players downed tools and were crying off to the president like Chelsea style babies. You need to get your facts straight and stop talking utter agenda driven nonsense. Also you’ve got no way of knowing that Emery will definitely fail, it’s just your skewed chuckle vision again. You don’t like him and that’s all there is to it. Let’s not forget he has won more in his career than Wenger did at the time of taking on the Arsenal job but this doesn’t stop… Read more »

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Cc
They all improve us.
Which is great if you just won the league or came a close runners up.

But we finished sixth.

Everybody else above us improved and strengthened except the spuds.
We bought to stay still and stop the rot with a small improvement.
We didn’t buy better than what the team’s above us have.
So why would we be above them or vastly improve on them.

Pierre

Up4grabs “Miki looked pretty good, for a guy missing for ten games. If you put ozil back in and tell him don’t defend just create guen and torriera will so the donkey work, we might get somewhere.” What you are saying is what I got slaughtered on here for saying back in August/ September…it won’t happen, Ozil is finished under Emery. I will be surprised i f Ozil plays another game now that Saurez has arrived . Mhkitaryan gets a lot of unfair stick on here , he is quality if used correctly as he was at the weekend. his… Read more »

Charlie George

Seriously
Who will be the next Arsenal Manger ( when ever that is)?

Charlie George

Bd

Herculean effort, by the way!

He got sacked at PSG ! He caused more carnage there than the Yellow Vests!
He stunk Paris out!
Don’t fib..

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Pierre,
Some of your comments revolving around ozil and the way our fullbacks play I agree with.

Ozil does go missing in a lot of big games, and in some games can be frustrating awful, look ponderous on the ball and tracking back, then bang its a goal or two assists from
Nowhere.

For me ozil should play all the home games bar one or two then selected away games, and come off the bench in some. As well when the opposition are flagging.

He doesn’t help himself though.

Charlie George

And if – as you say he quit!

Why quit? Mbappe, Cavani and Neymar TOO hot Too handle?

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I’d also put miki in the side because with guen and torriera who I think are great and can eventually be a good partnership, put them with Xhaka and there’s not much creativity.
Xhaka is just plain awful.

Upstate Gooner

benny
“Emery wasn’t sacked from PSG he walked because the players downed tools”

Yeah, and Wenger stepped down last season because he got tired of making 9mil per year.

WengerEagle

Very interested to see how the likes of Dybala react to being paid vastly less than Ramsey.

Insane figure that. Over 400k even as per Sky. That’s not far off Ronaldo money.

Champagne charlie

“They all improve us.
Which is great if you just won the league or came a close runners up.But we finished sixth.Everybody else above us improved and strengthened except the spuds.“

Not true though is it?

Who improved Chelsea or United?

Charlie George

If that’s the case
Hopefully now – will end the debate we need even more ( Stans cash).
We have ample funds to play with.
We don’t need an artificial top up!

Just need competence.
And sensible husbandry

(Both badly lacking)

Dissenter

Pedro
“£400k a week.Simply stunning that they see that as value.Well played to Aaron’s agent.”

You may want to have a word with Emirate Stroller because he was lamenting here in the summer about how Ramsey’s agent was leading him by the nose and mismanaging him.
I still wonder if Ramsey ever wanted to stay. It’s likely he wanted to slow-walk the process to the end – the club served into his hands at the end.

Batistuta

Blog’s been a running mess of posters lining up to say ” I told you so” when the manager does eventually go, which is sad really

Champagne charlie

Batistuta

Haha yea mate, was none of that when Wenger left at all.

Dissenter

Pedro
10th biggest on what basis?

We are a Europa league club that’s made a fortune out of bilking our fans.
Arsenal ranks number one [numero uno] in the percentage of game day revenue to total revenue. One quarter of out revenue comes from gate takings; not that much from executive boxes, just regular joes.
We lead in having the most hipster middle class whinny fans. That’s another reason why Kroenke bought the club- easy money.

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Cc,
Chelsea were better than us last season and are level on points now with us.
Utd downed tools to shift Maureen out now look at them.
Tell me from our team who walks into utd side. Torriera?
Chelsea would love auba or laca other than that who else.

TR7

Paulinho (In reply to your post in the previous thread) I can’t possibly like or rate a manager who happily concedes possession in central midfield to even sides much inferior to his side. Emery has this complete neglect for central midfield play that gets on my nerves. He leaves 4 players to press high up the field and others to occupy defensive positions. Now chance of winning the ball from opposition is higher in central midfield than in and around the opposition box. Why ? Most of your run of the mill defenders play it very safe, either they use… Read more »

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That Ramsey money is outrageous, if it was half that I would say it’s generous.
Juventus have had there pants pulled down.
That’s ronaldo, messi mbappe money.

And he ain’t one of them!
Over a barrel like we are with ozil.
Four year deal they can’t sell him back in two years as no one here could pay half those wages. Unless Chelsea are desperate.

salpardisenyc

Eagle

Looking more and more possible Juve cash in on Dybala this summer to me. Not going to win the cage fight he seems to be in with CR7, peak in terms of value.

Now Ramsay on that wage.

Shall we put together a bullet presentation for Mr. Kroenke on the players attributes, he seems to like those.

Dissenter

Two seasons ago, we were days away from being maued by a weak Bayern team 10-2 across two legs.
Cue the tape to May of that same year, the lovely middle class numpties were gyrating to Neil Diamond’s Sweet Caroline at Wembley
‘Sweet Caroline, Good times never seemed so good”
The clueless American owner was there expecting a riot and instead witnessed a love-fest. Next day, Wenger was completing his coup d’etat against the board.

We haven’t been part of the elite for a long time.
“10th biggest clubs” don’t go hat-in-hand begging for 6 month loan moves everywhere.

bennydevito

Ishola70February 11, 2019    08:26:37 Benny This blog would become very bland if we all become nodding dogs to Pedro. I am sure he doesn’t mind dissenting voices in fact he probably welcomes it. Stop licking his bum. >>>>> Ishola, Whatever you say chump. People were getting personal and Pedro actually had to delete a few comments. I never said people can’t debate Pedro’s opinion but there needs to be a line of respect not crossed as Pedro is the landlord. I don’t agree with Pedro’s opinion insofar as calling Emery out so soon and I will happily butt heads with… Read more »

Dissenter

*mauled by a weak Bayern team

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Dissenter,

Nothing wrong with sweet Caroline.
But your right big clubs don’t go begging for loan deals.

Pierre

What has happened with Ramsey is similar as to what happened with Ozil a year ago. My guess is that there must be other clubs in for Ramsey and there may have been a bidding war . There is no other reason why any club would pay such a ridiculously large contract. I have always said there must have been clubs in for Ozil and Arsenal panicked as they didn’t want to lose him. There would be absolutely no reason whatsoever for Arsenal to pay such a ridiculous wage to Ozil unless their was other clubs in for him ,… Read more »

Dan Ahern

I’ll stan for Rambo all day but that reported wage is pure insanity. Doesn’t matter that he’s free.

Remember that’s coming from Ornstein tho, who gets his news from Arsenal. 400k is just so crazy I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s PR nonsense.

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Pierre why did no one tell ozil sit tight we will give you a big fat signing on fee and huge wages in four months time.

I’m not digging you out, but it seemed to me no one wanted ozil.

Dan Ahern

No, Marcotti says he heard £7.5m pa net, which is around 250k pw gross.

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Hazard better get that transfer request in quick for real Madrid, before they decide to go for Dybala.

Receding Hairline

Yea Pedro..Marcotti says he was told its 250k per week and even he thinks that’s high

Charlie George

Bd

But Valentin is The Guru!

Pierre

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True …

But my argument is , why would Arsenal offer such a huge contract to any player who is not wanted by any other club.

No logic in that.

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Pierre,

I think it was the case that they couldn’t lose ozil and Sanchez and had to secure one at any cost.
The problem is there contracts should have never got to to such a short time before ending.

Arsenal never learn, it’s not like it didn’t happen before with Nasri, RVP, then Ozil, Sanchez it really is amateur hour sometimes at arsenal.

Charlie George

If the coach could get Ozil producing Leicester City performances- Ozil s salary would not be even be spoken about!

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CG

A coach can only do so much, ozil needs to have some respect for the fans who pay his wages and for his team mates and do it himself.
He’s got the ability, he just need the commitment.

gambon

Looking at Ramsey deal from another view point…

Juve are willing to invest £80m in him, which goes to show just how fucking monumental our choice to let him enter his final year was.

bennydevito
salpardisenyc

Arsenal utterly bottled the Ramsay situation, can think of a few others.

Pedro

Usual suspects for Dybala, crazy money. My guess he’s Galactico bound
although Bayern would be a great fit but don’t see them spending that much.

Redtruth

Ramsey lol……..

Danny S

Pierre and Pedro

Gilberto Silva and Petit were the DM’s in the arsenal set up.
Vieira was box to box. He would press high, and also track back and transition the ball through midfield.
A DM, shields the defence, plays simple quick forward passes, like torriera was doing before he decided he liked getting forward.
I

bennydevito

Dybala would be a dream. Great player.

String

You are total poison about our club Pedro you used to make sense I admired your very early stance on Wenger out, I wanted him gone long before you gave us a platform to vent our anger against the dictator ,which you where surberb at I recommend so many proper fans to read your blog 10 years ago look around mate at hardcore arsenal blogs those that live and breathe the club they love you mate are now fucking loads of us off those that really care .

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Gambon, It’s like I already mentioned its not like arsenal haven’t done this before With allowing contracts to run down. Rvp Nasri, Even wellbeck this year. Before he got injured. 27 year old England international. Sign him on a three year deal good back up for strikers and can play cups so will get game time. Move him on in a year for 20m as plenty of clubs would take a chance on him. We make our money back at least. Now he goes for free in June. If your not resigning monreal sell him last summer. It goes on… Read more »

James.wood

Pedro
Well done the agent.?
It’s greedy agents that are Dumping the game.
It’s the grass root teams that feel the pain in the long run.
Greed greed greed.

Charlie George

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Ozil has not got a world cup winner medal!
Just shy of 100 caps for Germany
A real Madrid career
And a £350 k a week contract if you think the man is lazy….

Ozil ain’t the problem.
Emery is

Man Utd fans on The Grove s equivalent would have been having the same debate about Pogba(another world cup winner- I add)- during Mourinhio s tenure.!

They ( Man Utd- sacked the manager) and rightly so!

Remember the game is about the players.
Not coaches and managers!

James.wood

Not dumping ——-screwing.

James.wood

Not dumping ——-rumping

salpardisenyc

Not humping______Pumping

Guns of SF

Pedro,

do you have a poll feature you can add in this blog?
Would be interested in seeing data points on topics like:
Emery in / out
Wenger supporters
more technical questions. etc

Data points

?

bennydevito

No they wouldn’t CG. Difference is Ozil was bad under Wenger long before Emery came along, and how many times do you need to be told; Onstein and others who know more than you have stated it has come from above Emery to freeze Ozil out , not Emery. But why let facts get in the way of your agenda driven lies?? The reason Pogba went off the boil was because of Mourinho and the proof is there for all to see, whereas we all saw how shit Ozil had become under Wenger and that is a fact confirmed by… Read more »

Paulinho

“There is no other reason why any club would pay such a ridiculously large contract.”

It’s quite simple Pierre, as I’ve said for years now, Aaron Ramsey is a better player than Mesut Ozil.

Guns of SF

Pedro

haha stay safe my friend

salpardisenyc

Is that the final one out of Wengers “British core?”

Wait we still have Jenks.

Paulinho

People always used to scoff when I talked about Ramsey’s off the ball movement and ‘third man runs’, well it’s those qualities that the Juve scouts and football men would be salivating over because they know how important off-the-ball movement is, especially when allied to the technical security of Pjanic and Bentancur.

Graham62

Charlie George

Wrong, the game is about the fans. That’s right, you and me.

Without us, no players and no managers/coaches.

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CG,

Real dumped him.
Germany dumped him.
He was playing badly under Wenger almost as badly as under Emery.
What he’s done in the past is great but he’s employed on an exceptional contract by arsenal and the fans expect commitment whether your paid 50k or 350k
He plays when he wants and can be bothered, that’s the problem.

Bob N16

Paulinho, in a dominant team Ramsey can make those runs. If you want him to hold a position, forget it. 20 min sub option.

Mukiza

Absolutely agree with you Pete, I’m starting to have very serious doubts about Emery. our team has no identity, no clear style of play, no clear footballing vision going forward on the pitch. I’m rally worried going into next season, unless we do some cracking business in the summer which i doubt we’ll do. I don’t see Unai lasting past his current contract. I highly rate Juan Carlos though, I’d like to see him at the club in the long term.

Graham62

It’s incredible to think that we’ve lost about £150m on the Sanchez, Ozil, Ramsey saga’s.

AFC, what a great business model.

Paulinho

Bob16 – Juve not a dominant team then?

Juve haven’t bought him to hold a position either, that why I mentioned Pjanic and Bentancur.

bennydevito

Pedro, I really don’t think there are any actual EKBs. That phrase can’t be used until Emery has been in charge for at least 5 years of abject failure, bad transfers, selling players well under value and letting our best players’ contracts run down enabling them to traitorously join our rivals. I’m no EKB and neither are anyone else, I would just rather let Emery have at least one season before making a judgement. Who are we? Tottenham? West Ham? Everton? Newcastle? Shouldn’t we do our business with a bit more class? After all, like CG says, we are The… Read more »

Pierre

Bennydevito “No they wouldn’t CG. Difference is Ozil was bad under Wenger long before Emery came along” How bad was he Bennydevito …have a look at how bad he was. “premier League 2017/18: Players with most chances created this season revealed and ranked talkSPORT 21st March 2018, 1:01 pm Updated: 21st March 2018, 1:02 pm The Premier League plays host to some of the best playmakers in world football. The likes of Mesut Ozil, Kevin De Bruyne, Eden Hazard and Christian Eriksen are just of the talented midfielders who have an eye for a defence-splitting pass and a perfectly weighted… Read more »

Charlie George

Graham 62

Nonsense . Absolute sentimental tabloid guff!

The game is about the players!

(From George Best to K Mbappe!)

Are fans going to pay to turn Up and watch an empty green field.?

Pierre

Paulinho
“It’s quite simple Pierre, as I’ve said for years now, Aaron Ramsey is a better player than Mesut Ozil.”

now THAT is funny .

Paulinho

Yes, very funny seeing the Ozil hipsters with a confused furrowed brow, poring over Ozil’s chances created stat and trying to make sense of it all…….

Redtruth

Benrd Leno – Internationally capped keeper and a huge upgrade on a declining Cech. The best keeper we’ve had since Lehmann./-…………………………Has cost us points this season Sokratis – Has won titles in Germany, is a natural leader, we all love him because he is mean to other players./-…………………….Best of a bad bunch Kola – Bundesliga team of the season. Has 5 assists to his name this year./…………………….A bench warmer at best Bellerin – Was having a great season. Was tracked by Barca in the summer. One of the best young right backs in the world. Injured, sure, but our defence… Read more »

Valentin

A new one for me, somebody is now pretending that Meunier and Emery were buddy. Meunier was the first to announce that the coach was leaving. After a game where he was forced by Emery to play despite being sick ( he had to leave the field mid way through the second half), he went to complain to the president who confided in him that Emery was not going to be renewed. For those who speak French here a link to Belgium newspaper Le Soir confirming that Meunier had been forced to play. https://www.lesoir.be/142952/article/2018-03-01/le-ton-est-monte-entre-thomas-meunier-et-unai-emery-apres-psg-om You just need to Google Meunier… Read more »

Pierre

Grabs
“He was playing badly under Wenger almost as badly as under Emery.”

2nd most creative player in the league last season and we are unbeaten since August with Ozil in the starting line up.

We concede more goals without Ozil than with ozil in the team and we have just lost 6 games without Ozil in 7 weeks.

Show me some state that prove Ozil has been bad and that we are a better team without Ozil…don’t bother because you won’t find any.

Charlie George

“”He plays when he wants and can be bothered, that’s the problem.””:

That may or may not be the case – up 4 grabs !

But I would put the glove wearing Iwobi in the same bracket.

Yet-Emery loves Iwobi Tho.

Ozil is too big a fish for Emery!
(Miles too big!)
He likes little tadpoles ike – Suarez!

Any coach worth their salt- would love the challenge to get Ozil firing on all cylinders!

gambon

Is it worrying that Emery seems to fall out with almost everyone he has ever managed?

He’s like Alan Partridge

Samesong

We concede more goals without Ozil than with ozil in the team and we have just lost 6 games without Ozil in 7 weeks.

You make him sound like a goalkeeper. 👀

Redtruth

Pierre
“2nd most creative player in the league last season and we are unbeaten since August with Ozil in the starting line up.”

And yet we finished 6th…..

Pierre

Samesong
They best that when Ozil plays we are only playing with 9 outfield players ..hence the goals conceded stat.

The reason we concede less goals with Ozil in the side is because he tends to pass to his own team mates which means that Arsenal keep possession of the football which in itself takes pressure off the defence unlike the 71% pass accuracy against Huddersfield

Pierre

Say(best)

Charlie George

Gambon

Is it not about respect?
Who on earth respects him in the footballing world?
Maybe a couple of young Andalucian players do…

Arsene Wenger gets invited to Liberia for presidential awards.
Emery after Arsenal will struggle to get a job in Siberia!

azed

“A new one for me, somebody is now pretending that Meunier and Emery were buddy.”

Nobody said this.
It was you who claimed Emery liked to sign his old players. It was also you who said Emery back stabbed the DOF of PSG to sign the players he wanted.

Jese, Munier, Digne and Krychowiak were signed in the same window, was it Emery that signed them all?