Emery chasing elite kids

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Quick post this morning, as I’m making sweet content in Berlin today.

Holland are back, Germany are in a death spiral as a nation. If only they had Ozil to rally the troops?! Great to see the Oranje back in business. They have some very exciting young players that are no doubt going to start peppering the sides of the elite very soon. De Ligt looks a really exciting defender, would love Arsenal to move on him.

Funny how nations just run out of good players for a bit. The cycle of success is interesting to watch. My theory is it’s all down to formulas. Countries find a way of making players great in the moment, they rest on their success, their methods become stale, they have to start again. It’s incredible a game as simple as football can advance so quickly and leave people behind. Every 5 years the game is unrecognizable. Better fitness, smarter tactics, more technically gifted players… it just gets better and better.

In France, Thierry Henry has decided his future is at Monaco. Our goalscoring hero has taken over the reins from Le Grove favourite Leo Jardim. It’s a very odd move whichever way you look at it. Their current coach has battled the mighty PSG, won a league and constantly dealt with an exodus of players. Now he pays a hefty price to a novice 10 games into a season.

For Jardim, his fate is the same as the one Wenger faced a Monaco. He’ll weather the storm and get another good job. For Thierry, he’s been handed the keys to a huge first job. I’m excited to see what he can do. Does his obsession with football translate into being a good coach? Is he going to be able to deal with players that are lesser beings than he? Can he shake that moody persona and be a man people go to war for? Is he technically good enough? He needs all of those items. Just being a great striker 10 years ago isn’t enough in a game that has grown to be incredibly complex.

If he is all of the above, we’ll be looking at the next Arsenal manager. If he isn’t, well, he’ll just have to stay at smaller clubs until he learns. Oli Kay wrote a piece yesterday about the rise of the designer manager. Lamps, Gerrard and Thierry have all taken jobs with little experience. It’s either inspired or hopeful. My guess is a lot of it is hopeful. Maybe not so much with Thierry because at least he’s spent a lot of time around Europe learning. He also assisted Martinez to the semi of a World Cup.

It is tantalizing that the south of France is Paddy and Thierry. Who will win out? We shall see… likely drinking a batch of 2018s vintage champagne, which apparently folk are extremely optimistic about, next summer as the saga plays out.

The Mirror report that Emery was the architect behind pulling the Ramsey deal. He wants to make more of an impact on the squad next year and is keen to reduce the wage bill to make room for his own players. We’re again being linked with Sarr, the exciting young winger from Rennes. He could be the next Dembele, could also be the next Gervinho. Guy has a lot of sauce about him.

We’ve also been linked with Kai Havertz, the German kid ripping up trees at Leverkusen. Apparently, he had to miss a European match last season because he was doing his exams.

I am all for young exciting players coming to Arsenal. Rip out the old guard, start afresh, make Arsenal the factory for elite youth in the Premier League.

Finally, Aaron Ramsey has been linked to United. Good luck with that mate. I assume he’s going to unlock Pogba, or Lukaku or Sanchez? That place is a steaming pile of shite. I’m not sure I’d be taking my career there, but who cares at this point.

Right, that’s me done!

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Bobby

Top 4

The doctor

Say hello to the doctor.

kc

Banks?

Alexanderhenry

I appear to be first.
Anyway, I’m all for bringing young players through but we’ve been down this road before. Will Emery ‘s project youth work out better than the original version?
We’ ll see but if we rely too heavily on it we’ll come up short again.

Alexanderhenry

Third then

kc

Same groovedaddy.

Cesc Appeal

I thought at first that as it was the weekend everyone had a life and no one was posting.

But then I thought, no that can’t be right, not the people on here.

Did you leave all the comments on moderation, Pedro? Too much German beer?

Cesc Appeal

You bring some young players through like Smith Rowe, Nelson, Nketiah etc but you also buy premium young talent like Sarr and Havertz.

I much prefer that direction to spending £80 Million or more on a player.

Especially because now you can believe in the coaching set up and the manager.

gonsterous

pepe going to be over priced by January. Almiron seems to be on the arsenal radar now.

TheLegendaryDB10

Thanks Pedro for sorting the comment section out!

ddkingz

hello everyone…
any GERMANS here..

ddkingz

if we were going to buy any more defender btw winter and summer transfer, then i encourage we buy de ligts of ajax…
this guy is a total footballer…
but the transfer market is totally fucked right now, and there’s no going back..

my problem is, if man citeh managed to cough out $56m each for both j.stone and e.laporte, then I wonder how much any club may be asked to pay for de ligts…

Samesong

In moderation.

Samesong

Bloody hell Pedro been in moderation since yesterday afternoon.

China

You’re all banned!!!

Pierre

I would imagine that mesut Ozil is sitting at home with a smile on his face after Germany’s performance last night …. A relieved man I would think after making the correct decision to quit the national side.

S Asoa

The Abacus of Le Grove seems to have gone on “ rinse, repeat”
Wonder ifI could get the LAST OF THE TRO4PHY ?

englandsbest

Did you hear? Emery chases eiite kids,

Victorious

Lmao, the fvck is going on??

Victorious

Germany wad dog shit last night

Called it that Ozil will have the last laugh, I mean he couldn’t have timed it better bailing out from the sinking ship.

Victorious

Germany definitely in transition but you can bet your house on the fact that they will come through this and win a major tournament before England do

Uwot?

With you cesc on the old bill Bailey.might be a goer? They can throw him in for “ Hollywood “.would be a useful swap imo.

mysticleaves

Like someone said Pepe looks more polished than Sarr and is as young. Remember how the Belgium midfielder from Sampdoria was used as a smokescreen for Torreira. Maybe Pepe is who we are after.

As for the German, I doubt Bayern will give us a free run at him. We have people like Nelson, Eddie and ESR in forward places too. would like us to get them in first

mysticleaves

If Ozil is happy at what’s going on in the NT then he’s what he’s been accused of being. Nobody laughs at the plight of their NT and Ozil is a German. In fact he would be longing to come back and help. Except he never had his mind in Germany NT to start with.

Victorious

AMN too, still got huge hopes for him making it at the club, he was doing quite well until the injury against city, hopefully the Emery effect rubs off positively on him too just like iwobi

HighburyLegend
HighburyLegend

Hey vicuntious, your old pal is still alive and well.

Dissenter

This first-second-third people are out of control.
There’s fun and then there’s obsession.
90% of the comments are from posters counting numbers.

Redtruth

I’m not surprised Germany lost when donkey’s like Boateng are still being selected.

Victorious

Mystic seriously would you blame ozil? Looks karma is having a say when a Nation utterly body shames a citizen of their own like they did to him after their collective failure at the world cup, I mean the likes of Uli were taking turns firing shots at the bloke,not to talk of the German media not uttering a word rebuke while serious shit was going on about a star Player like ozil,they forced him out and are getting what they absolutely deserved for that

Victorious

In saying that, it should be noted Every dynasty comes to an end and Low’s days are now numbered. Not being privy to the behind the scenes, the World Cup could have been a blip, but it appears not. However, Germany still have an abundance of talent, so I wouldn’t write them off just yet. The new guy that comes in will probably garner this ability and get them firing on all cylinders again. But low must ho though, still don’t get how he’s still in a job, conveniently allowed ozil take all the flaks of his own failures while… Read more »

Alexanderhenry

Emery’s done very well so far. I’ve been impressed for the most part but it’s clear that he will have to embrace the club’s ‘values’, project youth being one of them.

ddkingz

mysticcleaves …..

YOUR LAST WARNING….
say a rubbish more like that comment on oezil and you will be taken out the back door and shot…

I don’t like oezil much this days, but Germany as a nation in general were all rude and made oezil the scapegoat for their own failings…..

NOW KARMA IS BACK AT THEM…

Freddie Ljungberg

Mystic Pepe is 23 and Sarr is 20 I think. My point still stands, Pepe is more polished and we need someone that can make one of the wings his own right away, we already have a young promising winger in Nelson. Not sure I see the point in getting Havertz either when we have Eddie in that position and he’s not getting any game time at all atm. Doubt he’s going to want to come and be 3rd choice for us. Winger CM and Cb are the most pressing positions we need to fill, get one or 2 of… Read more »

Bamford10

Alexander is still pretending that the “values” talk was imposed on Wenger from above. Complete and utter nonsense.

Steiner

Ah ha ha ha it’s too funny!
All those boys thinking they lifted trophies.
More premature ejaculations in here than there were in the Spurs camp before the St Totteringham’s Day 5-1 Newcastle game looooool

Bamford10

Signing young, promising talents at reasonable prices will be an absolute must for us going forward. We have money, but we do not have the money to fill the XI or squad with £50m signings.

Steiner

Pedro

I’m getting notifications that your site is infected with malware, be worth looking into it.
I use good malware protection and have never had a false alert.

Alone + Easy Target

http://www.espn.in/football/soccer-transfers/story/3667763/psg-want-arsene-wenger-as-replacement-for-transfer-chief-sources

“Wenger would be given free rein to restructure numerous aspects on and off the pitch — notably the youth academy — and would have time to get PSG ready for the summer window with a clearer idea of the FFP situation.”

Would love to see the clash between Tuchel and Wenger on the handling of the transfers knowing the former’s attitude with other staff in his previous clubs.

mysticleaves

Freddie I hear you. Couldn’t agree more.

Victorious, I agree that Germany may need fresh ideas for the NT. Maybe Loew can bring it or another person will.

Ddkingz Lols. sorry sir.

Joe

Alone

Go back and look at wenger’s transfers the last dozen years. He doesnt have a clue. Doesn’t understand the modern game. He still values players at 2001 valuations.

He will be laughed out of psg when he says “ we should sell mbappe and Neymar and buy sanago and kallstrom.

Steiner

Bamford We have a very talented young squad, were these kids not at our academy, I’m sure many of them would be starting for European clubs. Look at Nketiah’s goals, that guy can ball, but is being kept out of the squad by a wonder strike force! Smith Rowe looks awesome, if raw, in every game he played. Nelson hit the ground running in Germany, and we have more in the Arsenal arsenal. (see what I did there?) Jokes aside our loan system has been rubbish for years and we’ve developed squat. Nelson to Hoffenhiem was a great move, best… Read more »

Dream10

Seen Nicolas Pepe play in a couple of matches for Lille. He was the main threat. However, I don’t pretend to know how good he is.

Heard some saying that he is a promising player, but not doesn’t have the potential of say, an Ousmane Dembélé, a player who will play for a CL contender most of his prime. Don’t want us spending 40-50m pounds on Pepe if his ceiling is somewhere between CL. Precisely where we are at the moment

Joe

Charlie Re your previous post I just don’t think ransey is worth 200k plus a week. He’s over rated. Average player at best. Italian and Spanish teams aren’t going to pay Ramey what he thinks he deserves Why would man city, Chelsea pay him over 200k? He’s not better than hazard or aguero. Him and his agent tried to play us and they lost. They will now find out ransey isn’t thought of all that highly in the football world Like I said. He should feel lucky he is on 110k a week at arsenal. He’s barely worth that if… Read more »

Alone + Easy Target

@Joe

To be fair the likes of Källström would have been a great if it was made like 8 years earlier or is this just my rose tinted glasses of his status as some kind of wunderkind back in Championship Manager hahah.

Bamford10

There are two things you should not put Wenger in charge of: your transfers and your tactics. No idea what PSG are thinking, although at least they’re not putting him in charge of the latter. There is one thing Wenger is well-suited for in 2018: managing the youth team. He would actually be good at this.

Steiner

Bamford
Like he managed our youth and made them world beaters?
Come on brother, Wenger couldn’t manage a #2 at the minute!

Kenyangunner

Wanyamaaa! Kenya 3 Ethiopia 0

Alone + Easy Target

Anyway with Henry and Vieira managing maybe Ligue Une will be interesting to watch aside from being yet another boring one horse race league.

Steiner

Pedro

You’ve been hacked.
Earlier comments thing may have been a result.
I just loaded and hard reloaded 30 sites to check it wasn’t my machine, it isn’t, also checked from another comp, Le Grove is the only site with trojan link alerts.

You’ve been violated!

Bamford10

Ramsey has become the punching bag here, so I am going to push back a little. While I agree that he’s not worth more than 170k a week, and while I agree that his Hollywoodism is an issue, he is a better footballer than Xhaka, IMO, and he can in fact play the CM role in a disciplined way. See both games against Milan last season. Further, I’d sign Ramsey at 170k before I signed Xhaka at the same; I’d also sign Ramsey at 170k before I signed Ozil at 350k. I realize these aren’t the choices on offer, but… Read more »

Joe

Bam

Xhaka is on 90k a week

Alone + Easy Target

@Steiner

Are you using some kind of adblock or not? Or did you whitelist this site? Either way maybe the alert comes from ads because that’s how it is nowadays. Malware straight from the ads.

Bamford10

I know, Joe. I was proposing a hypothetical. You need to read comments more carefully.

Joe

No bam

You need to make better scenarios

It isn’t a choice between Xhaka at 170k
Because he just signed for 90k

No matter how you spin it, ramsey is not worth 170k a week

Joe

Xhaka isn’t being signed for 170k

What does that have to with Ramsey?

Bamford10

Right, Joe. But I’m saying: imagine a scenario in which you were choosing between Ramsey at 170k, Xhaka at 170k or Ozil at 350k. Which of the three options would you go with? I’d go with Ramsey. And I also disagree with you: I think Ramsey is worth 170k. Not in some absolute sense, but in terms of what he has been paid, what Ozil has been paid, what City, Chelsea, United players are paid. Problem is he’s asking for more than that, and I agree with the brass that he’s not worth more than that. But I’d also point… Read more »

Alone + Easy Target

Some are so massively overpaid I don’t even know what the current standard salary for players of Ramsey and Xhaka calibre anymore.

Dissenter

Ramsey deserves a deal to match Mykhi, Lacazette and Aubameyang
I wouldn’t blame him if left because he wasn’t offered parity with these players. He’s done more for Arsenal than any of the players in this bracket.
He doesn’t deserve anything higher than 200k weekly…and certainly not the Ozil wages. The deal he was dithering on was for 250k weekly which was far too much.

Bamford10

It’s a hypothetical, mate. It asks you to think about how you rate and value these players in general, independent of this or that player’s contract situation today.

And Ramsey is connected to Xhaka: one, because Ramsey could be played alongside Torreira (rather than Xhaka being played there); and two, because arguments here about the two have been linked from the get-go.

Dissenter

Joe
Are you suggesting that Ozil’s contribution is twice Ramsey’s ?

The Ozil deal,is the one that missed the club up.
The ripple effect spread every where.
I’m glad they decided to break the fever with Ramsey.

Joe

Bam

Hazard is on 200k
At Chelsea. Cesc is on 150.k

Where do you think Ramsey falls? I’d say below cesc

Rambo Ramsey

That lass got no ass !

Dissenter

Joe
Ramsey is worth 180k weekly
…because Auba, Lacazette and amykhi are on that salary band.

Ramsey has every right to demand for that,
The probe was he was asking for the Ozil salary which is ridiculous because every one knows that was a tragic mistake.

Dissenter

Joe
You’re referring to Haxard’s last contract
What do you think Chelsea are offering him now.

United are offering De Gea 300k weekly and he’s not jumping in it because he wants more.
There’s crazy money in the league now.

Pierre

Emery has gone up in my estimation in his decision not to persevere with Ramsey..

His assessment of Ramsey has been spot on and I am sure he realises that in Smith-rowe we have a Gem who will be an asset to the club for years to come.

With AMN,Nelson ,Smith-rowe and Nketiah coming through the ranks along with iwobi and bellerin who have already broken into the first team after coming through the club’s system,it should be a really interesting and exciting time for the club.

Alone + Easy Target

@Dissenter

Just look at Sanchez with his 500k/w wage one of the reasons he chose United over CIty. Ramsey at most should get like ~150k/w tbh lads.

China

Mikki is hugely overpaid considering he’s not even a guaranteed starter Auba was bought as one of the hottest properties up front in world football (even if we use him on the wing) Laca was not as hot as auba but not that far off when we signed him And ozil gets paid basically double what his contribution justifies I don’t blame Ramsey for looking at some of those players and thinking hey o should be earning that sort of money too, but he is looking for that money because we’ve been paying that money, not because he actually should… Read more »

Marko

Havertz has a bit of Robben about him. Absolutely agree about De Ligt he’s arguably the hottest young CB prospect in world football and he’s currently keeping DeVrij out of the Dutch team and he’s excellent

Pierre

Instead of moaning/complaining about how much our creative players get paid , why not just enjoy what aubamayang,Mhkitaryan,Lacazette and Ozil bring to the team.

For the first time in about ten years we have strike force and creatively that is up there close to the best.

Victorious

I’d say Ramsey and his agent has got the timely horribly wrong to pinch for a lucrative deal he barely deserves he perhaps thought Gazidis would still be in charge which should have guaranteed him whatever deal he was pinning for,not to be met with the shocker of the slimy oil salesman chickneing out which swiftly allowed for his greedy nature painfully brought to the fore Raul is making him a scapegoat here, setting down a marker and announcing to the club he’s the one running things now In all of this Poor Ramsey no matter which way you like… Read more »

Pierre

Plus Iwobi and welbeck who are pushing for a regular start…

Victorious

Iwobi had a couple of assists also for Nigeria against Libya just yesterday, never seen him with that much confidence with the ball, he literally ran the show and looked unplayable
Kudos to Emery he’s done some major work on the lad.

Graham62

Your Comment Here

Graham62

Ok, I’m back as G62 as my son has returned from NZ. Hence, no more M24

What have I missed?

Pierre

Graham
Whilst you have been away it has been agreed on le grove that any mention of wenger Will result in a ban from pedro…..keep to the here & now instead of harping back every 5 minutes.

Steiner

Alone + Easy

It’s trying to do a sneaky redirect to a couple of sites, both Eastern European.
Malware bytes is blocking it.
Not getting it from any other site.

Graham62

VicVic

Irrespective of our Footballing differences, I sincerely hope all is well.

Cheers.

Dissenter

Steiner
Take care of your shite
Install a free anti malware software…stop blaming Pedro for every thing.

Graham62

Pierre

Although I respect your points of view, frankly my man, I don’t give a damn.

Wenger will be harped about, if and when necessary.

I see Pedro wasn’t too bothered in highlighting Wenger in the above photo.

Remember, I was never away.

englandsbest

Bamford10 Arsenal used to have ‘values’. They were rarely mentioned but they were always there, as much a part of the Club as Highbury Stadium. Every football fan was aware of them and, frankly, those who supported other clubs were envious. Hence some derogatory descriptions from them such as ‘Bank of England club’ and ‘the marble halls’. Wenger, of course, made constant reference to Arsenal ‘values’, without ever defining what they were. He used them as an excuse: yes, we may be in decline but we still have our ‘values’. Unsurprisingly, he was wrong. Arsenal was never about money, it… Read more »

Pierre

G62
Also a ban will be put in place for anyone who keeps droning on about salaries……boring!

raptora

lmao at all of the ret*rds thinking they are first lolz

Pierre

G62
“I see Pedro wasn’t too bothered in highlighting Wenger in the above photo.”

To be honest , there is much more to look at than wenger in that photo.

Steiner

Discenter

I wasn’t blaming anyone for anything.
Was giving Pedro a heads up, many people don’t realise their site or server has been hacked for some time.

If you’d bothered to read my comment you’d have seen that I said I use anti malware software, and it is a pro version.

Right crabby cunt aren’t you…

Marko

Also a ban will be put in place for anyone who keeps droning on about salaries……boring!

And chances created

rollen

lol only in Arsenal fans mind is Ramsy worth as much as PEA or Laca. Laughable.

Pierre

Fair enough …..

rollen

Stainer come down its just ads popups bothering antivirus/malware

Dissenter

Steiner
Has it occurred to you that this “problem” isn’t generalized beyond your malware infested system?
Damn most browsers have free Adblocks , maybe your “pro” version is a phony

Stop getting angry because someone called out your moaning

Dissenter

Pierre, the Wengemery specialist wants to dictate what we whine about.
That will be the day.

Rambo Ramsey

Dissenter just can’t resist the temptation to wear his Superwoman cape and get to work on Le grove incumbents.

Dissenter

Rambo
You’re the one with the moniker of the super hero
Rambo the conservative voice of legrove whose pushing back against the hordes of leftie whinnies
How are you doing, long time no see.

Alone + Easy Target

@Dissenter

Enough with forcing the Wengememery buzzword even the person who coined it has gone after that lulz-worthy meltdown. He hasn’t been back ever since that match has he?

Alone + Easy Target

This is why every enthusiast community should not be invested too much into politics as the animosity gets too unbearable sometimes. Seen it happens too many time already. Some guy even brought up that white genocide stuff.

Rambo Ramsey

Rambo? Badass soldier-Sure. Superhero-I don’t think so.

Speaking of psycho lefties, I see that the World has officially hit rock bottom with men now crying about being abused. Congrats liberaltards, soon we’ll have men asking for maternity leaves too.

Victorious

Lmao whatever happened to the hackney guy? i miss his rants and use of ‘wengemery’. Come back bro,all is forgiven.

Graham62

Henry @ Monaco will make interesting viewing.

Whatever happens, T14 can do nothing wrong in my eyes.