A lack of juice for the Europa mileage?

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Happy Friday my darlings, how are you?

Qarabag?

I see.

Well, let’s be honest, does anyone really care about the first 4 months of the Europa League? It’s a chance to run out the b-team and enjoy a steady flow of fairly straightforward victories. I don’t really have concerns about our ability to deal with a Sporting that has been having an awful summer. Qarabag play to a stadium of 5,800 in Azerbaijan, not that I would ever denigrate a team without watching them play, but outside rampant complacency, you’d hope we’d be ok there. Then there’s FC Vorskla Poltava, who ply their trade in the Ukrainian league, which let’s be fair, has produced some good players, but again, a team the size of Arsenal should be fine.

The major burner with going to Ukraine and Azerbaijan is the distance. Google Maps won’t even give you a flight time it’s so remote. No doubt we’ll go the Netjets route, but the point is you’re going to a different timezone, you’re playing on shite pitches, staying in less than ideal hotels and getting a rough nights sleep heading back to England with next to no prep for your Premier League game. Emery made the point that he respected the team, then made the point about the physical challenges that come with long flights.

When you play two matches in one week it is physically different. It is more hard with less time to prepare for the match or to complete physical work. But we want to do that, we want to play in a lot of matches. After the international break we will play a lot of matches. I can ensure we are willing to use a lot of players.

Conquering the Europa League is all about great planning, or a lot of luck. This trophy is Arsenal’s to lose this year, and it’ll be a great way to sidestep top 4, and win our first European trophy since the Cup Winners Cup final in 1994.

ESPN are running with a story that Ozil and Emery are fine, the German picked up a severe cold that degraded into laryngitis. Interesting it’s taken over a week to give the illness a name and that the club would let someone with a highly contagious illness anywhere near the dressing room. But hey ho, we’ll need Mesut at his absolute best if we’re to make inroads this season, so let’s pray whatever he has had it cured and that he drops an absolute hero performance this weekend against the MIGHTY Cardiff this Sunday.

Let’s start with the gripping news that Emery has banned fruit juice from his players because of the high sugar loads contained within. I personally didn’t realise how much sugar they slinked into those cartons until I worked on a pitch last year. Like, did you know they put corn syrup in a lot of the brands? Unreal, I didn’t. Farm to table my arse!

Anyway, broader point here is that taking sugar away from football players is like you asking the McDonald’s cashier to remove two crispy french fries from your extra large box because you’re running the Hackney quarter marathon. He’s the Crouch End mum banning the kids from Easter Eggs, offering up little Rupert and his friends baked vegan moxarella disappointment sticks as a fun alternative. It’s not going to impact the performance of players who crush through thousands of calories a day because they’re running 80miles a week. Always amusing when coaches try and take away the little things from players who have so little joy in their boxed-in lives.

Now we’ve got that important snippet out the way, can we just find out of LT is going to start?

‘I am very happy with the player. The players are working hard every day and making demands of me to start with their work rate. The possibility of him playing with the starting XI is okay, but I am happy with all of the players and how they are working, not just Lucas.’

The coach hasn’t mastered the English language yet, but he’s learning the politics like a pro.

I hope he can get to grips with the starting 11 he’s settled on, particularly midfield, where I think he’s struggled to find a flavour he likes the taste of (obviously not Sunny D). I’d love to think the future is MG and LT, but I can’t help but think the manager is captivated by Xhaka. The midfield looked far more balanced when he played a little in front of LT in the second half against West Ham last week, so maybe we’ll see that as a starting offering.

Outside that, give me a clean sheet, a solid defensive performance and an Aubameyang hattrick!

That’s me done.

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CaliGooner

Jack was not our best midfielder last year. Not even close.
I’m starting to think that Bellerin should be playing the wing role that we wanted to buy someone for and the bastard should play RB. Then buy someone promising to compete with the bastard in January.

Champagne Charlie

Banford Could always fuck off back to Twitter? Nobody forces you to come on here, much less when you offer up nothing. It’s a 4-3-3 you sped, not surprised you missed that one given you’re woefully dim. What’s that now, 4 times in the space of a week that you’ve made quips at me about my discussions with others? Was Pochettino a couple of days ago, but you duly clammed up when you started waffling about a season Tim Sherwood was actually in charge of – yea, I noticed that moron. Back at the ankles again today with another nothing… Read more »

Un na naai

Back at the ankles again today with another nothing input moaning about some guys talking football, all because you disagree. This is the same cunt that shouts “harassment” when challenged on anything. Pathetic really. I’d get yourself a hobby, being a self appointed football sage isn’t working out as you think it is. It’s almost like playing d1 soccer in the 80’s doesn’t in fact put you on the worlds stage as football minds go.

Hahahahahahaaaaaa

Poetry
Sorry Bamford but he’s got your number

Un na naai

Marko

Who is better in our current squad? Ramsey? Naaa
Xakha? Naaa
Elneny? Naaaa
LT? Naaaaa
Guendouzi? Naaaaaa
Jack was another player who’d have shone in a midfield three supported by bigger more defensive minded midfielders
His best games came in this set up.

China

Jack hasn’t been our best midfielder since leaving our youth academy, sorry

Marko

Delusional

China

If xhaka had some seriously redeeming qualities I doubt he’d get so much fire on here

If he’d demonstrated himself to be a genuinely serious talent, the fans would instead be blasting the manager wenger/emery for not getting the most out of him the same way people spent all summer debating how to get the best out of auba and laca

Instead the blame usually sits with the player from most of the fans. That tells you something

China

Players with several major weaknesses which relate to important abilities for their part of the pitch are rarely quality players

Defending xhaka because he’s good on the ball but bad off it is like defending Gervinho because he could beast his man one on one even though he’d sooner run the ball out of play than provide end product afterwards.

It’s absokutely hopeless in a major club to depend on players who have a couple of strengths and a lot of weaknesses.

China

Chamakh was reasonable at hold up play and good in the air, shite at shooting or beating his man tho

Average striker who ended up at his real level, palace

Realistically xhaka and chamakh are same ball park for their positions. It’s not all bad but it’s demonstraably not good enough for this level

China

A better way to put it is this Ozil doesn’t get a free pass for his major weaknesses even though the positive attributes are elite Why should a player whose strengths are far less than elite get a free pass for their many weaknesses? The only players who get a free pass for their weaknesses do so because their strengths enormously outweighs their weaknesses (Henry couldn’t score with his head and his corners were strangely shite) or because they’re in a team surrounded by much worse players, in which case it’s not such a priority Xhaka has the luxury of… Read more »

raptora

Moussa Dembele leaves Celtic for Lyon in £19.7m deal.

Pocket money to be honest. Don’t know how good he is, but if an EPL team was to bid for him, deal would be twice as big.

gonsterous

raptora

it’s Like the PL are tourists. The locals pay the real value, the tourists pay double and think they have got a bargain cause they bought the fee down by a few quid…

gonsterous

xhaka profited from torreira came on. I don’t really see any balance when torreira and gwendouzi play together. One has to be paired with xhaka. Maybe we’ll know more this weekend. Up the arse and at em…

Champagne Charlie

China Nobody is waxing lyrical about Xhaka or making and grand statements. He’s simply much better at some things than any of our other offerings. Want to debate that go right ahead, but it’s backed statistically as well as by any impartial fans eyes when they see him with the ball. The CM options are very limited to boot which makes his inclusion in any XI more of an inevitability than not. Your Chamakh comparison is woefully bad, Xhaka is leagues better than Chamakh in his respective position. It’s a question of whether he can find a sweet spot in… Read more »

Ishola70

Can’t believe there are posters still banging the drum for Xjaka but as said before not surprised that we will still see more than enough of him in the first team because however much Guendouzi has impressed so far he will have his off days due to age and still learning and Torreira is a young player coming into a new league. Let’s get this straight whoever is still yearning for Xjaka in the side has no regard to Arsenal being solid defensively off the ball. Even those still championing him acknowledge that he can be a problem off the… Read more »

Ishola70

Charlie

“The CM options are very limited to boot which makes his inclusion in any XI more of an inevitability than not”

This is very true and was noted in my post above.

The central midfield is far from ideal for Arsenal and it needs another first team signing to try to see it remedied.

kc

Bamford nailed it. These ex AKB trolls are just that, trolls. They’re purposefully trying to ruin this comment section. Nobody seriously believes that JW was our best midfielder last season or ever. What an absolutely absurd thing to say. The Xhaka lovers are all former Wenger apologists. Coincidence?

Ishola70

And who is this troll on here championing Jack Wilshere? They really can’t see the shit for the trees can they. Wilshere was not mobile enough in his later years to be seen as a good all round midfielder. The tell tale sign of a player that is not good enough all round is making too many fouls on opposing players when chasing off the ball. Wilshere was guilty of this ditto Xjaka. And Wilshere and Xjaka are not influential enough on the ball to make up for their deficiencies off the ball. Not surprising that the troll as well… Read more »

Samesong

Ishola good posts mate.

Champagne Charlie

“Free ticket meaning we are meant to ignore his off the ball deficiencies and the “dirty work” is left to others. Can’t afford passengers in central midfield. Only Sarri is going along these lines with his midfield because he has a very influential player on the ball in Jorginho and Xjaka is nowhere near this influence for Arsenal.“ Xhaka is the most productive CM arsenal have, he is without doubt the most influential in that regard. It’s not folly to have him freed of an element of the dirty side when clearly it’s not his strength. It’s about balance, Guebdouzi… Read more »

Ishola70

Exactly Charlie The squad is the squad and both you and I know that the squad is not good enough at this time which includes the central midfield. Also I’m sorry but this influence you speak of regarding Xjaka doesn’t make up for his deficiencies overall. Xjaka is one of the established players in this team and overall he is not good enough. And this talk of “knitting” play. “Knitting” is not a high skill. “Knitting” from central midfield can be carried out by many players. Who is to say by the season’s end that Guendouzi is not seen as… Read more »

Michael24

My take on Granite Xhaka is simple.

Eradicate his mistakes(discipline and giving the ball away) and we have a very good, combative and passionate midfielder.

I’m prepared to give him some slack and trust in Emery to make the right decisions.

Redtruth

Xhaka is receiving way too much attention for such a garbage player.
His built-in shitness has no place in a professional football match.

China

Oh I see Charlie, So Torreira and Guendouzi’s numbers are worse than xhaka’s? After 3 games? That should be more than enough evidence then, never mind this discussion guys. 3 games in and Xhaka’s got good numbers init Or we play with guen and Torreira behind xhaka as though xhaka is a particularly good AM? Talking of statistics and numbers, if he had that much to offer offensively I’m sure he would have more than a small handful of goals and assists in his two years by now. The guy has been frankly poor for 2 solid seasons. Torreira has… Read more »

Ishola70

Charlie “It’s about balance, Guebdouzi and Torreira can provide the base and Xhaka the penetration. He’s also a much better defender facing the ball than he is on the turn so it would make more sense to keep him to that vs putting him in a role that gets him turned and running” Never see much penetration from Xjaka from central midfield. This is because he has no pace. All his tidy work seen comes from deep. Which games you been watching? Xjaka is not good defensively in many instances whether it be on the turn or facing up. Slow… Read more »

China

the last time xhaka had a good season was in the incredibly strong German league…

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

China

The problem with the arsenal fan base imo is the prevalence of footballing hipsters who are convinced what you see on a weekly basis is not how it is and that you just can’t see it clearly It’s been like this for years and it’s dragged us down from the top of world football to a laughing stock and now we’ve had to have a total reset with our new dreams being just the Europa league. So I’ll give it a miss listening to those who spent the last 10 years telling us our house wasn’t on fire. If I… Read more »

Ishola70

China “the last time xhaka had a good season was in the incredibly strong German league” You are seeing now younger English players being loaned out to Bundesliga sides or signing as we have recently seen with Nelson. Chelsea before were loaning out their younger players to Dutch League sides. Bundesliga is stronger than Dutch League but what they both have in common is that players are afforded more time on the ball than the English Leagues. These sort of leagues are seen as better conditions for player development. This same time on the ball that Xjaka had when playing… Read more »

China

I wouldn’t insult the suitability of the German league to help young players develop. God knows they produced a World Cup winning team with most of their guys playing there.

But the league isn’t meaningfully competitive (Bayern have won a ludicrous % of the total league titles, mostly by a country mile).

As for xhaka, congrats on having a good season in that league. As I said tho, genuinely good players will look good in most teams and in most leagues barring the odd slip of form eh

Ishola70

China
“I wouldn’t insult the suitability of the German league to help young players develop.”

It’s not insulting those leagues to say that players generally are afforded more time on the ball in comparison to the EPL. And as you say these conditions can produce good quality players.

Everyone knows the EPL is more physical and generally faster than Bundesliga though.

Xjaka’s lack of pace was less a hindrance to him in the Bundesliga than it is in EPL.

Ishola70

It’s about the player rather than league of course. Look at Keita. He will have no problem in EPL because he has certain attributes to suit demands of EPL physically that being pace. Xjaka on the other hand has no physical attributes that help him in EPL. Even strength wise he is not that good for a guy of his build. Xjaka was a very lazy signing from Arsenal and was not needed at all when the team already had luxury players in it such as Ozil. Wenger must have just looked at that Bundesliga team of the season when… Read more »

raptora

I mean Xhaka is as slow as Cesc is at the moment. Peak Cesc of course had much better technique, dribbling and ability to run forward with the ball in empty spaces or through one-two passes. Current Cesc is Xhaka but with much better brain and passing.

China

Ishola I don’t think we’re in disagreement

China

Btw after 3 games our top scorer only has 1!

By no means a big deal but I hope auba and laca start together tomorrow and find the net

Once one goes in I think many more will follow

Ishola70

raptora

“Peak Cesc of course had much better technique, dribbling and ability to run forward with the ball in empty spaces or through one-two passes. ”

Also much sharper over shorter distances. Much sharper. No comparison.

Obvious evidence of that is the amount of one-twos Cesc was involved in that you mention.

It is unimaginable to think of Xjaka being able to be involved in such plays.

Xjaka is a regista with physical limitations and it will be a big error from Emery to move him up to CM.

Dream10

Ishola

Where does Xjaka spelling come from?
Shouldn’t bother me, but I get annoyed every time I see it lol

Ishola70

Let’s hope you won’t see the spelling for too much longer.

One more season hopefully.

Xjaka arrives at Arsenal and straight from first season he is here the club descend into a Europa League side.

Let’s hope to bid farewell to Xjaka by next summer.

No more Xjaka. No more seeing the spelling of Xjaka.

Dream10

Ishola .

Lmao

Will be interesting how we overhaul our CM options next summer. Club wanted to sell Wilshere and Elneny in 2017. Ramsey hasn’t signed yet. Guendouzi is a youngster who will go thru growing pains. Would like more technical quality and mobility in the middle.

Un na naai

Ishola

JW is of course mobile enough to play for arsenal. We have xakha and Elneny who are far less mobile and far less accomplished on the ball. Scholes and pirlo or xabi Alonso we’re hardly clocking up the yards but like Wilshere they had a footballing brain, technique, vision, skill and an eye for a pass. He is better than what we have now and we let him walk for nothing. Terrible decision. All while Ramsey tries to hold us over a barrel while offering NOTHING from midfield but gaping holes.

Un na naai

We should have signed goretzka

Un na naai

Real Madrid and Man City title winner pellegrini comparing JW to the great pirlo…..

Ishola70

Too much broke down with Wilshere offensively when he was on the ball.

Too many errors of judgement from him in when to release the ball and when to keep it.

He noticeably slowed down as well after his injuries.

That you are naming players such as Pirlo, Scholes and Alonso along with him tells me straight away that you are over-rating Wilshere.

Very decent on his day but bigged up by fans too much and not the first time this happens is it.

Un na naai

“I worked with all of the English midfield players for four years and he could play in any single team in this country and live in that team or any single team in Europe, he is that good.

“The problem with Jack Wilshere is his fitness and his injuries and his reliability. If you had him playing every week he is a wonderful, wonderful player. He has a great attitude, he trains well and he has got fantastic ability.

Gary neville

Ishola70

Gary Neville

“The problem with Jack Wilshere is his fitness and his injuries and his reliability”

That’s all we need to take from that article.

And reliability mentioned.

Not the most reliable of players Jack.

One thing is for sure that undisputed sage that is Gary Nev won’t be calling for Jack to represent England anymore anytime soon.

Bit of a gaff from Gary Nev there. But we know Gary Nev can come out with gaffs from time to time.

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Ishola

Then keep him fit
Play him less
He’s that good he should be protected and nurtured
Anyone who knows he game knows jack Wilshere is better than any of our current cmf and better than anything England have to offer
I can’t believe this is up for debate.

Ishola70

lol

And Jack is now plying his trade at a relegation team in East London and will not be hitting any real heights this season.

Keep on bringing these quotes though.

Funny to see how wrong these guys were.

Ishola70

Or maybe they were being respectful to a pro footballer Pep in particular.

They must have been directly questioned these folk that you are quoting about Wilshere.

What are they going to say if directly asked about him?

Yeah he’s over-rated generally and has lost pace since injuries.

They have to be careful with their words these guys. And respectful the majority of time.

But keep bringing the quotes.

Always a sign of someone being weak in their argument dragging up past quotes .

Ishola70

Don is just looking up more quotes praising Jack.

Give him time.

Bob N16

‘Elneny less mobile than Wilshere’ -obviously depends on definition of mobile but Elneny’s strength is his mobility -Wilshere looks fairly pedestrian in comparison.
Sadly we are always talking about Arsenal players who have strengths but their weaknesses are all too apparent. Emery has plenty of work to do!

China

Jacks ceiling was enormous. His potential was the same sort of level as cesc. But not only did he not achieve it, he moved backwards. His reputation preceded him based on his first 18 or so months where he looked incredible But even 8 years and zero good seasons later, everyone was still going on and on about how good he was and citing that game against Barca as evidence. The reality was that for years now, when jack played for arsenal we were much more likely to drop points. That was a statistical reality. I don’t put that much… Read more »

China

Also you can find great quotes about loads of unexceptional players

I seem to recall one of the Barca managers talking up the dangers of Theo Walcott several years ago too

Or if you want a really good quote about someone, didn’t wenger say we should stop lining for messi type signings because we’d just bought sanago

Yeah again, I’ll trust my eyes from what I’ve seen over the last decade or so watching jack instead

Uwot?

This would be the same Gary Neville of the Neville sisters right? The same Gary Neville who actually stated & I kid you not that Th14 wouldn’t be in his top 3 premiership players of all time! You’ve got to be f*** ng Avin a larf mate!

China

Adebayor was described as being one of the toughest players John terry ever had to face and even conned his way into a move to Madrid despite not being an elite CF

Pierre

Fans

SUGA3

Adebayor was another of the promising ones who did not get whipped into shape when the time came. Any manager worth his salt would have laughed at his demands and let him rot in the reserves whilst still on 30K per week. Just to make an example. By tripling his wages, Wenger showed that he was weak and the discipline went out of the window. Simple.

This was one of the early signs of the rot.

Pierre

Wilshere, Diaby, rosicki, eduardo, ramsey Injuries robbed Arsenal during the period when we also had ces, rvp, ade, hleb, walcott, song, nasri. That was a title winning side…and most of those injuries started through horrendous tackles.. History may have turned out completely different if we had the same rules in place now that penalise bad tackles with red cards. Yes I know that the final tackles that resulted in leg breaks were red carded but it Would have never got to that level of physicality as players were given licence to kick Arsenal players and it needed 3 broken legs… Read more »

China

Truth be told I don’t think he managed to be an established first choice at any other big club after arsenal.

He was never elite tho. An Olivier Giroud kind of quality. Certainly useful and a talented guy but not a beast by any means outside of that one season at arsenal

SUGA3

China,

The raw talent, pace, strength and physicality was all there. Poorly managed by Wenger, just like a lot of other players, hence the decline.

The common denominator was having a bit of an edgy character. But you just can’t win shit with a bunch of altar boys.

S Asoa

For being a persistent dickhead with hi starting XI Unai seems to have got a loving nickname of Dick ( not related to Tom or Harry )

Un na naai

Ishola

Beacuse you know more than them? These people are at the pinnacle of football
I’d trust their belief in the capabilities of Jack Wilshere over yours if you’ll forgive me

Ishola70

Don

Managers and players call it wrong just like you and me being humble posters on here do.

Tell me how they were correct in their views.

You can keep quoting more pros telling us how good Wilshere is but it is all irrelevant.

We all know that Wilshere didn’t reach his potential overall and now finds himself doing his stuff with a nothing Prem team. This is relevant.

All else irrelevant.

Un na naai

“If he had a career that had been injury-free we would already be talking about him as one of the top central midfield players in Europe,” Xavi said in 2015.

Up 4 grabs now

Another day of xhaka loving, lol.

The most simple way of looking at it is this, would he get into any of the sides that finished above us last season?

That would be a no, so he isn’t good enough for us.
He’s now on his third season isn’t an untested rookie.

Michael24

So just because Mourinho has read a few philosophical journals, he feels he is superior to everyone else. Tosser! Not disputing he is a winner but am disputing his belief that we should show him more respect because of his achievements. To say openly and repeatedly, ” I am a great manager” is disrespectful to those people that not only understand what the game is all about, but, more significantly, comprehend the ethical and moral obligations of a decent human being. Greatness is bestowed on you by others, as is respect. Mourinho has always had this arrogance about him but… Read more »

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Ishola

Of course it’s relevant. It displays how revered his skill set is by the truly elite football men. He still has more talent at West Ham than any of our midfielders do. For that reason alone he stays at arsenal for me
I thought he did well last season until Ramsey came back into the side
Either way it’s all academic as he’s gone.

Up 4 grabs now

0-1 the bindippers

Ishola70

Pathetic defending from Leicester.

And Salah missed an open gooal from two yards out before their first goal.

Un na naai

Jenas thinks Wilshere is the man who can bring the much-needed creativity to Arsene Wenger’s side.

“I do yeah (think he is the solution),” Jenas said.

“I think some of the players that have come into Arsenal over the last couple of years have been odd buys.

“I don’t think they have been Arsenal-type players.

“He’s their best midfielder for me, him alongside Santi Cazorla naturally are the two best midfielders they have got.

PhD2020

ChinaSeptember 1, 2018 11:16:27
Adebayor was described as being one of the toughest players John terry ever had to face and even conned his way into a move to Madrid despite not being an elite CF
————

Personally,I don’t think Adebayor conned his way to RM.He was a talent.On his day,could be awesome.Just had some mental issues to deal with.

It was Mourinho who brought him to RM-on loan I believe.I guess he fancied having a Drogba type player in his armoury.That said,he played for Man City.He didn’t do to badly there,until his usual personal shenanigans got in the way.

Ishola70

Lots of players have been revered Don for their skill set. Lots in the past.

But it’s about what you produce overall and Wilshere failed in this respect for whatever reasons.

Wilshere joins so many players that were termed if only. The if only players.

Time to get over him Don.

Most on here have and did so a good few years back.

Michael24

S Asoa

Know your TV history.

Dick Emery was an iconic 1960’s-1980’s British comedian.

Up 4 grabs now

Going to be a long day for Leicester Sat that deep.

PhD2020

SUGA3September 1, 2018 11:26:45 Adebayor was another of the promising ones who did not get whipped into shape when the time came. Any manager worth his salt would have laughed at his demands and let him rot in the reserves whilst still on 30K per week. Just to make an example. By tripling his wages, Wenger showed that he was weak and the discipline went out of the window. Simple. ——————– If we had got rid of him,who would we have to replace him at that time? Though I wanted him sold,due to his professed love in to whichever club… Read more »

Un na naai

With all respect, he doesn’t play the English way,” Xavi noted.

“He has an excellent passing range, an ability not to lose the ball, it is clear that he has had his education at Arsenal.”

We wasted jack and Theo
The should have been legends. We should have built the team around them. To harness them.

Un na naai

Ishola No ishola. Most players don’t get that kind of praise Best player in England? Best player at arsenal? One of Europe’s top midfielders already? Don’t see that getting said if Rambo or xakaha do you? And RVP didn’t start producing for us until he was Jack’s age and he’d gotten over his injury worries Same as gerrard for Liverpool who had to shake off early injury plagues to become what he became. It’s never too late when you have the ability of someone like jack. He excels in a side that plays his type of football. The tika takka… Read more »

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And Why are you calling me don?

SUGA3

PhD,

First of all, I did not say sell. I said whip him into shape. Put him in the reserves, make him squirm. Watch him come back with his cap in hand, give him a new contract, but not triple his wages.

He got this better contract and was shit throughout the season. No discipline = no effort.

Bamford10

Jack Wilshere was an excellent player but he is/was crocked physically. Why is he a subject of discussion here again? Jesus fucking Christ. Dead subject. Move on. Certain people here are ruining the comments section.

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Clearly, defensively we will struggle playing as we are.
Would prefer a 352 formation, we can then play with laca and auba up top.
In midfield you have ozil or Ramsey in the hole.
With guendouzi and Thor protecting.
And Welbz and bellerin as wing backs.
Nacho, Nick the Greek & mustafi as your back three.

You know Ramsay or ozil won’t come back to defend so your Dm’s will protect and you don’t have to worry about bellerin defending as your playing with three centrebacks.

It ain’t great but it’s what we have till January.

Vickingz

Leicester seem to be playing nice football one would have expected from arsenal.

Bob N16

Bamford, people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

Up 4 grabs now

0-2 game over

Dissenter

Liverpool are playing with a champion’s swagger.
They are the team to beat this season. They’ve acquired that edge to beat the smaller teams and always show up in the big teams. They’ve become hard to score against after all the money spent on the defense.
They look a class above Leicester, like they can turn on the burners anytime they so choose.

Ishola70

Has to be said Wes Morgan is pretty shit now.

Still living off that EPL title win all those years back.

And he’s getting on in age.

Really Leicester should be cutting such players.

Un na naai

Bamford

Oh here he comes. The self op pointed matron of debate topics in Le grove
Nobody cares mate. The discussions here grow organically and it’s not for you to decide what we talk about or wether it ruins le grove
He is a topic of discussion because we let our most talented cmf walk for nothing dumb dumb
Do you ever get sick of being laughed at or do you just crave any sort of attention whatsoever?

Un na naai

Bob

Well said

Victorious

Binford get over your fvckin self already, you don’t get to decide what people talk about OK, jog on

Ishola70

Dissenter
“Liverpool are playing with a champion’s swagger.”

Leicester are a typical average whatever EPL team.

And they have been poor this game sitting back from the first whistle as the home team and they let Liverpool take the initiative straight away.

Hard to judge Liverpool against such opponents.

Up 4 grabs now

Bindippers will run city close, but still can’t see past city and pep.

Champagne Charlie

Banford

Why are you on here again passing comment about subject matter being discussed by others?

Only one ruining anything is you with your continual remarks about what should or shouldn’t be discussed – according to none other than yourself.

Either take part, talk about something else, or go about your day you impotent cuck.

Samesong

Calm down dissenter about Liverpool some people will get offended and take it as praise.

I think of all the potential players we missed when out on in that position when jack was taking up squad space.

Good luck to him but don’t miss him at all.

Victorious

Dissenter and knee jerk.. two peas in a pod.

Bamford10

Un Na Three questions: one, if Jack Wilshere was our most talented CM — he wasn’t, of course — and Emery saw no place for him in the XI, does this mean you already have a very low regard for Emery’s judgment? Two, if Jack Wilshere is such a good CM, why has he done nothing of note — hasn’t even had a noteworthy game — at West Ham thus far? Further, given your estimation of him, do you think Wilshere will be one of the best CMs in the PL this season? If he’s not, will you admit you… Read more »

gonsterous

UN nai

lol, no I don’t want Jack at the club’s medical list. Put him on west hams. Don’t see what the big fuss about Jack is any way ? Never did anything note worthy when he was fit. All I ever saw was him dribbling his way into a wall of players and losing the ball. I doubt he’ll learn to know when to pass at the age of 26 or how ever old he is now…

Bamford10

Dissenter

If only Liverpool had Granit Xhaka or Jack Wilshere, though; then they would really be the team to beat.

😉

Ishola70

gonsterous

“All I ever saw was him dribbling his way into a wall of players and losing the ball. I doubt he’ll learn to know when to pass at the age of 26 or how ever old he is now…”

Are you sure now?

Xabi, Gattusso and Guardiola saw him every week without fail and disagree with you.

Michael24

B10

I’m with the others on this.

Subject matter can be repeated, even it people get fed up with it.

Look at me for Christ’s sake!

Please don’t get me started on Walcott again.