10 years worth of neglect = slow rebirth

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Arsenal kicked off the new era in a painfully familiar fashion. A leaky defence, a second-rate performance against a top 6 side, star names under-performing, along with the customary zero points. Unai Emery witnessed first hand the brilliance of Manchester City and probably now realises how much work needs to be done to move Arsenal into the modern era of football Arsene Wenger steadfastly refused to acknowledge existed.

There was also a bit of a subplot with Arteta sitting in the opposition dugout, he was the frontrunner for the Arsenal job until Gazidis lost his nerve. The big hugs from Pep after the second goal hinted that our excaptain may have been given an outsized role in deciding what the plan was going to be for the afternoon (like he was last year).

Whoever concocted the strategy, it worked. Manchester City blitzed us from wide positions, Mahrez and Sterling causing us all sorts of problems, with Mendy and Walker showing off their raw power and pace. Our defence looked pedestrian at times, AMN really suffering before going off with an injury after a collision with a full speed Kyle Walker.

Their goals were standard Arsenal switch off moments. For the first, a poor Bellerin clearance found Mendy who often took up central positions, Sterling ghosted Bellerin, shrugged off Guendouzi and slammed his shot past Cech who didn’t dive. The second goal was classic Arsenal, Mendy powered the ball up the park, played a one-two with Sterling, crossed low into space in front of our extremely deep defence, Xhaka was pondering, no one in our defence reacted, Bernado Silva was first to it and rocketed his chance into the top corner.

We had some good moments in the game, but as with preseason, our transitions to attack were generally quite poor. Ourdefence looked extremely uncomfortable on the ball, Petr Cech was comical at times, nearly passing into his own net at one point. Flabbergasting that the coach wants to play with a keeper regista, but opted for Cech, who I absolutely refuse to believe has been dropping passes like peak Zidane in training. With his hands, he was excellent all game, he made some wonderful saves. However, in the new era, the keeper is expected to play with his feet. He is not the guy you want breaking the lines. It’ll be very interesting to see how long Emery sticks with that decision.

It didn’t help that we had nothing performances from Ramsey, Ozil, Auba and Mikki. Our attackers looked like they’d never played together, Ozil was particularly depressing to watch. His touch was poor, his passing was unusually shite and he just looked disinterested. Ramsey couldn’t find a way into the game either, a very bland performance for someone chasing a deal (or the exit door).

Aubamayang is an incredible finisher, but he lacks the all-round impact a striker like, dare I say it, Giroud can offer you by bringing players into the game with great hold up play. I’m not crying for Giroud by the way, I’m merely pointing out that Emery has to find a way to work Auba work in big games like that.

Still, on the positive side of things, the manager was scheming during the game about how to make us better in the second half. He subbed Ramsey on 54, a real power move if he wasn’t injured. Lacazette gave us some hope with two chances early on, one of his half-volley grazing just wide.

I thought Lichtsteiner was a real asset when he came on. He got forward a lot, he was rugged in defence and he really does bring an air of nasty to our team. What a competitor he is.

Guendouzi had a good game. I mean, he made a lot of expected rookie mistakes, but as everyone keeps saying, he never shied away. He demands the ball all the time, and despite being at fault for the first goal and nearly gifting them a second when he set Aguerro free, he was a bright spark out there on the pitch. Give me him in midfield over Xhaka every game. Telling that our best player made two shocking errors and I’m pleased.

Another telling moment was Xhaka being subbed off for a defensive midfielder when we were trailing. The Swiss was typically average. He landed a yellow card because he’s so fucking slow, he gifted them possession and he just generally looked off the pace against an aggressive Manchester City. Moving forward, he can’t be starting. He’s one of the most average players I’ve witnessed over the years, literally no redeeming qualities in a league that demands physical presence. He is a liability against anyone that presses him, and teams like Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea and City will all know that.

So what have we learnt? Not a lot. We knew this was going to be a tough season, and we knew it was highly unlikely we’d be a match for the second greatest team to grace the Premier League. We won’t play teams that good every week, and by the time we play them next year, it’ll be a different story. The players will have adopted Emery’s ideas, the defence will feel more comfortable playing the ball out the back and you’d have to hope the manager will have found his true starting 11.

The big questions for me:

Are Emery’s ideas that good? Can he compete with the like of Pep, Sarri, Klopp and Pochettino? All masters of their various offerings. Another big question is how the players will react to defeat.

How enthused will they be about the new setup? The double sessions? Being shouted at like never before, but the same things happening on the pitch…

How long will it take to see progress, and how long will the fans roll with it? For me, we have to be real. It took Pep a year with a blank chequebook. It took Klopp a year, and his path is much more aligned with the challenges we face. So whatever you’re thinking now, you have to park it for at least that long.

Top 4 is the goal, it’s going to be tough because there are 7 very good teams this season.

Anyway, don’t be down in the dumps, today was the short-term cost of progress, this will get better as the year goes on, more joy to come (hopefully).

Let’s hope the reaction is great. Sarri up next. Excellent.

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peter

4th

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Where all my challengers at?

peter

am right here. I’ll get you soon DM. Nice one. Thought I had waited enough for your 3rd comment

Ashwin Gunner

Good morning DM

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Peter
Look at the time stamps between my first and second, and then fourth comments. You should realise by now that there’s no point waiting for my 3rd comment. I’m waiting for you…

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Morning Ashwin!

Savage

I liked that moment in the first half when a few players went to Emery for instructions. The trouble with such a passionate managerial style is that it can cause a manager-player stand-off, but in that moment I thought they were warming to him. Cech also mentioned in the post-match interview how we was enjoying the changes.

Agreed on everything else. Guendouzi > Xhaka.

Seamus

Thought we played well yesterday. Loved lichsteiner, exactly what we’ve needed for years. Shouting and demanding more. In time it will
Come good

Ashwin Gunner

Lichsteiner looks like a beast. He is ready for a fight. he is like a thug. A Thug like figure who we needed for a long long time.

Mr Serge

Well done for 4th again Pedro

KAY Boss

I thought we weren’t that bad. It’s a new system and it’ll take time to get used to it. For Xhaka and Ramsey the least said about them, the better.

And to those championing Auba up front alone, we need both our strikers on the field to ease in our transition into the new system.

4 4 2 should be the safe bet for now. City emphasized the need for a quality winger(s).

Crabregas4

It was certainly an interesting game, some really disappointing moments in the game and Cech being a bit comical with the ball at his feet.
Granit really cannot be starting for us and a Torriera / Guendouzi CM can have some big positives.
Would much rather start with Laca in the team as it looked like he had a bit of fight and something to prove.

Let Ramsey/Iwobi/Mhiki/Welbeck/whoever fight for that last spot.

Lich is a beast

T

All the new signings were terrific and there was a good air on the team. Clearly they were not ready to knock out the champions but i can see progres in the future. The downside was to see xhaka have a usually poor match. I just cant see him as a starter if we are to improve as a team. The same goes for Ramsey and cech. Very good players in some aspects but they have weaknesses that really impact negatively the attacking side of the game. Ozil looked promising early on but he seemed very discouraged and defeated after… Read more »

Davey

I get it, it is the 1st game against the best team but what worries me is the lack of pace and lack of width. We are desperate for a wide player or 2 if we persist in playing 10’s out wide we are fucked.

Emiratesstroller

Pedro I was at the game yesterday. There were a number of problems: 1. Too many back passes to Cech who was expected to pass the ball out of defence like the eleventh outfield player. This may be new trend in football, but Cech is not suited to that role. 2. Our full backs and midfield did not play well and were constantly exposed from flanks by Man City fullbacks and Mahrez. The midfield were also outplayed in centre. 3. The two centre backs were okay and not at fault for either goal. Mustafi by last season’s performances had by… Read more »

UTarse

I’m glad it was Man City for our 1st game. It highlighted the gulf between the teams and the amount of work needed to get this club back to competing. People need to manage their expectations, 5th would be a good achievement this season as it would signal some progress albeit a worthless one.

Ivan

Everything was ok for first match. Xhaka and Ramsey have to go. They just dont fit here. Even worse is seeing Ozil and Ramsey on the pitch together. Its like when Ozil has the ball we at least expect some killer pass. When Ramsey get it i expect back pass or nowhere. Xhaka was atrocius. Guendouzi is twice the player he is allready and hes a kid.

KAY Boss

Cech did well. He had his off moments. I don’t like the idea where keepers are supposed to be good with their feet. They are to be good with their hands first before feet.

Most of the sweeper keepers are mostly average except a few.

Michael24

The passion in the response by Arsenal fans to the mocking by the City supporters shows how bad things have become at the Emirates.

If they had responded with –

“Yeh we know, it’s a bottomless pit” it would have been far more appropriate.

Emery must have been thinking WTF!

Emiratesstroller

Guenouzi does have potential, but in my view this was the wrong game for him
to start his career.

Personally I would have preferred that he was given his first game against Chelsea who do not press as much.

mysticleaves

First game done and dusted, I was surprised with the 11 yesterday and it contributed to us losing. Laca should have started and Guendozi shouldn’t have. AMN was roasted all game before he was saved by his injury. Not a defender. Ozil was awful. Even his passes were off. Don’t know what happened there but I am sure it has something to do with how Ramsey player yesterday. Xhaka had an average game but actually was better IMO than Guendouzi who showed that he isn’t ready to start for us at this level. Going forward I expect to see him… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Michael 24

Considering that August is holiday season the stadium was surprisingly full.
Overall most spectators around me were realistic about the team’s prospects
this season and did not expect too much.

The response to Man City fans was fairly measured. Let’s not get carried away
with what was said. It was banter and nothing else and fairly good humoured and not to be taken seriously.

Emery will have discovered from this game the shortcomings of our squad/team. Hopefully he will learn very quickly how to address the problems.

Leftsidesanch

Despite the mistakes with the ball at his feet, Cech made some good saves and kept the scoreline down. If Cech is going to be the no.1 keeper, playing out from the back, and playing the ball back to the keeper regularly isn’t suitable. If we’re going to persist with that, Leno looks more comfortable with the ball at his feet. Xhaka really has no place in the first 11. I’m not sure why there is such a blind spot when it comes to him. I’d persist with Torreira and Matteo, or even playing Ramsey a little deeper with the… Read more »

TitsMcGee

How long will it take to see progress, and how long will the fans roll with it? For me, we have to be real. It took Pep a year with a blank chequebook. It took Klopp a year, and his path is much more aligned with the challenges we face. So whatever you’re thinking now, you have to park it for at least that long.”

This where I am.

There was somebody calling for Emery to be out after 45 mins last night lol

Madness for anyone to think this circus was going to get fixed in 2 months.

Leftsidesanch

There were people leaving after the 2nd goal yesterday in the stadium. There’s no way to describe some of AFC’s fan base.

mysticleaves

Based on last match, if we persist with Guendouzi and don’t give him time to learn and get used to things we will be worse off.

I know he’s still shinny and new in the eyes of le grove supporters but he’s not ready. He’s erratic and off the ball game is bad. Xhaka had a more stable game apart from his one misplaced pass and when he was caught in possession.

mysticleaves

Moving forward I think Torr is a sure starter. I would pick between Xhaka, Ramsey and Neny to partner him and then set Ozil free in the 10.

Auba Laca and Miki/Iwobi forward line.

Logie Bear

Totally agree re Xhaka.
Interesting that he was subbed off for Torreira rather than Guendozi, who I thought had a pretty good debut especially considering he’s still only 19

Logie Bear

Good support for all of our new signings.
Would have much preferred Leno instead of Cech

City looked ridiculous, felt like they played with the handbrake on (!) and pretty much in second gear for much of the game

Pierre

VAR could have made a difference.. 60th minute… Xhaka played a ball through to Lichsteiner , ozil touched it and the lino gave Lichsteiner offside despite him being behind the ball and stones playing him on side.. Ozil was into the box, through on goal but for a wrong offside decision (of course they didn’t show a replay of the mistake). 66 minutes Mustafi grabbed around the neck for a 100% penalty if VAR was in operation. VAR may have also been asked to look at an incident in the 11th minute… Laporte grabbed ramsey around the neck as he… Read more »

OleGunner

I’ve just about had it with Xhaka.
Think its point of no return for me, I can’t be convinced that he is worth a damn at Arsenal.

Slow, ponderous, lazy and full of mistakes.
Lets bin him for the next few games please.

Logie Bear

How good was it to see Emery on the touchline rather than AW sinking into his seat on the bench as usual

Although anyone else surprised that he went straight down the tunnel instead of the obligatory handshake at the final whistle…..?

Ishola70

Yeah let’s focus on VAR when it was obvious that Man City were and are on a different plain to Arsenal.

That will do wonders to improve the team.

The one good thing about Emery is that we will not get the continual whinging from him as we did with Wenger regarding officials to deflect away from the team’s own deficiencies.

Guns of Hackney

This is what it’s like to be a mid table team…just happy that a big boy didn’t score 7 against us.

Arsenal must be the richest under achieving team in the world, no?

What are worth £1.8 billion? Ha ha…and happy that we ONLY lost 2-0.

This is the Arsenal, Arsene, Stan and Gazidis built.

Ishola70

OleGunner
“I’ve just about had it with Xhaka.
Think its point of no return for me”

Oh he’ll be returning alright.

The sub standard midfield options will see to that.

Pierre

Quote of the day has to be

“Aaron Ramsey was as useful as Gordon Ramsey”

Claude… Arsenal fan tv

Thank you & goodnight

Wenger had destroyed this great club in his last year’s. Whoever came in would of had their hands full rebuilding this team. Totally agree on xhaka, he’s not good enough for a championship team let alone us. Same for Ramsey. Get them out the club

Doublethink

I dislike Ramsey as much as the next man but I’m pretty sure his positioning yesterday was a tactical decision from the manager, a very poor decision but still.

Pierre

Ishola
“Yeah let’s focus on VAR when it was obvious that Man City were and are on a different plain to Arsenal.”

That goes without saying…

Receding Hairline

Mystic

Don’t know why you are concentrating on Matteo Geundouzi ..kid made some mistakes but was okay yesterday. You even went as far as saying Xhaka had a better game which is simply not true, Xhaka was absolutely shocking yesterday that i have decided i will never spend a second defending him going forward.

Guendouzi refused to hide, he made mistakes but still kept at it, a 19 year old who did not let his head drop for even a second, give us 11 players with that mindset and we will be fine

Dissenter

Guns of H Do you think we would be doing better had your preferred Arteta got the nod? I can’t take you serious now. All I see is you moaning and bitching after ONE game against the BEST team in premier league history (better than the invincible s in my opinion). I can’t believe any one takes you seriously after reading your moaning. It’s going to take time to clear Wenger’s mess. It’s probablu going to get worse before it gets better. The fixtures didn’t do us any favors. The players Emery got aren’t good enough to play like he… Read more »

Champagne charlie

Mystic Agree with much of what you said, Guendouzi is being spared a lot because he’s new and young. If Xhaka had put in that performance there would be protests. Not surprising given how green he is, and it’s beilliant he kept wanting more, but we were playing Man City….it wasn’t the place for him. Licht LB and AMN in midfield if we wanted legs. Can already see some players aren’t going to get a clean slate under Emery. There were a good few out there who played liked they’ve had half a game of preseason….which they have. Knee jerk… Read more »

Pierre

Double think
Baffled by the decision to play ramsey as a striker leaving our midfield exposed.

Baffled by the decision not to start with torriera.

Baffled by the decision not to start with Lichsteiner.

Doublethink

Is there a way to block people on here because reading Sanmi’s comments hurt my head.

Leftsidesanch

and pining for Arteta of all people, can only think your trying to be comical here Guns.

And Xhaka having a stable game…do me a fav!

El Gooner

Depressing start to the season, don’t buy into this “they need time to bed in” – seriously these are supposedly professional players who are not being asked to reinvent the game or start playing “Total football” – Yes we can expect some teething issues but on the basis of yesterday all we are asking is to play out of defence and press down the middle. Are our expectations so low that we have to organise a street party because subs were made before the 70th minute – talk about Stockholm syndrome Causes for concern – Xhaka and Mustafi are still… Read more »

Dissenter

Emery needs to be bold He should have gutted the team a lot more during the summer and brought in his own type of players. There are too many players in the team that are irredeemable and impervious to change. All the years of mollycoddling and being overpaid has crystallized. -Uli Hoeness was right about Ozil. When you need people to stand up consistently; you can’t count on Ozil. -Cech needs to go back to the bench- he’s no longer good enough . -Leno’s confidence has to be shot to bits. Why bring him over from Leverkursen where he was… Read more »

Ishola70

Dissenter
“We are going to need to beat Westham to get any points in the board before the international break”

Well if Emery can’t beat West Ham after seeing how rank average to poor they still are from yesterday’s evidence then it will have to be seen as an early season crisis for Emery.

The West Ham game at home is simply must win.

Guns of Hackney

Oh, and another thing. Let’s say it takes 4 transfer windows. No cunt sells in January and certainly only league 1 players are available at that time…so 4 windows, is around 3 years, right? Considering our team is aging quite rapidly, we wouldn’t exactly be adding to the current squad, we would actually be replacing the WHOLE squad. I don’t think many of you are actually aware that unless Stan does a City or Chelsea and hands over £300m+ we simply can’t compete. It’s impossible. We find ourselves in a vicious cycle with a team that needs major surgery, allied… Read more »

DM

Dissenter Agreed mate. Can’t understand the negativity; surely we knew this was coming, no matter which manager came in. It will take time to fix the issues that have developed over years and years of mediocrity. Emery has a job to do and losing 2-0 in our first game against quite possibly the greatest ever PL team (otherwise the 2nd best) is no disgrace. Lets now see how we adapt against Chelsea (not expecting much out if it either, though) and how the team in general starts to perform once we’ve got going, so to speak. Hopefully Torreira starts for… Read more »

Dissenter

CC “Agree with much of what you said, Guendouzi is being spared a lot because he’s new and young. If Xhaka had put in that performance there would be protests” Actually Charlie. It’s not a case of double standards I don’t know what game you were watching but Xhaka made more errors that Guendouzi. He did at make himself as available for passes until the kid who is clearly still raw. Guendouzi took on more responsibility so his errors appeared worse. Guendouzi was without fear. He was always ready for the pass unlike all the bottlers like Xhaka who know… Read more »

Guns of Hackney

You’re fucking right I backed Arteta. Still do.

Didn’t anyone see Peps reaction to Arteta yesterday? He made a tactical observation that Pep didn’t see and it led to City scoring.

Puts out cones? Do me a favour.

I’m not on a wind up. I am amazed that you all can’t see that yesterday was a vision of the future.

Give a monkey a live hand grenade…it may not happen immediately but if you watch long enough you know what the result will be eventually.

Leftsidesanch

Patience/common sense isn’t a strong suit for alot, but our season realistically commences at home to the hammers. Following that game and the unavailing international interval theres games against Cardiff, Newcastle, Everton, Watford, Fulham. Leicester and Crystal Palace. I suspect things may be viewed as a lot more rosier after those matches.

Champagne charlie

“He should have gutted the team a lot more during the summer and brought in his own type of players. “

Take it up with Stan, every new manager in the prem seemingly gets a bucket of cash to “make their mark”.

Emery, at Arsenal no less, got how much?

Leftsidesanch

The one thing that Xhaka can do, which is the risk-free pass to elevate his pass completion stats, he got beat out by Matteo in that regard too. Everyone knows that Matteo is still raw, but he shows promise and didn’t shy away from the game. I wish our more senior players had half that bottle yesterday.

Guns of Hackney

Argghhhh. The defeatist attitude on here sucks!!!

“Our season starts against West Ham”. No. It. Didn’t. It started yesterday. And what about after Liverpool and Chelsea turn us over? Do we start the season after that too?

Listen to yourselves. This is the attitude of a fucking relegation team. “We ain’t beating the big boys so it’s the results against the teams around us that matter”.

Oh my god. Oh woah is me.

Bamford10

Great post, Pedro. One of your best.

Champagne charlie

Dissenter

It was the first game of the season, it was littered with errors. Guendouzi was a huge miss for their first goal and his error again took City 60 yards upfield to score their second. But by all means focus on Xhaka getting dispossessed and making sloppy passes that amounted to nothing but turnovers of possession.

Owen

Disappointed but not disheartened. Lichtsteiner is a beast! Reminded me of Keown back in the day. Torreira and Leno need to start next game. Laca and Auba need to play more together.

Dissenter

Guns
“You’re fucking right I backed Arteta. Still do”

Precisely my point.
Arteta is a bloody assistant that has never managed a single game of competitive senior football.
You some across as hilarious when you continuously lampoon a more experienced manager who’s trying to clean up the mess that’s gathered over a decade
Who cares if Arteta was glum?
Why is he still Guardiola’s assiattn if he was so Uber-talented. Even Vieira got his move to Nice.

Leftsidesanch

I actually believe we can compete with the clubs in and around us in one off games, but to expect a drastic turnaround in the 1st or the 2nd game of the season with players getting used to a new system and a new manager who clearly doesn’t know his best squad is fanciful. It’s not accepting of defeat it’s called being realistic. If Arteta was such a ticket, why is he still one of Pep’s assistants. Why didn’t no club come in for him this summer? Even Henry has been faux linked to teams. Your coming across like the… Read more »

Receding Hairline

It was the first game of the season, it was littered with errors. Guendouzi was a huge miss for their first goal and his error again took City 60 yards upfield to score their second. But by all means focus on Xhaka getting dispossessed and making sloppy passes that amounted to nothing but turnovers of possession. So because Xhaka’s two errors did not lead to goals he gets a free pass? Shouldn’t he be ashamed a 19 year old kept showing for the ball under pressure time and time again while he was nowhere to be seen? When Matteo was… Read more »

Guns of Hackney

Dissenter

Let’s stay away from Arteta. You know my opinion on him.

Emery has done nothing as far as I can see to make us better. That, you can agree on surely?

Yesterday was a total mess. What was the formation? What tactics were employed?

Ramsay as CF!!!

Too many “wait and see” merchants on here. The same idiots that let Wenger continue for a decade too long.

We don’t have time. Two years out the CL. It will be three for sure. We may not even qualify for Europe.

Ishola70

Dissenter is flip-flopping terribly on Cech

He told us yesterday that this great new coach has seen Cech re-born and now tells us today that the management team haven’t got a clue in picking him for yesterday’s match.

mysticleaves

“Although anyone else surprised that he went straight down the tunnel instead of the obligatory handshake at the final whistle…..?”

Pretty sure he was more concerned about getting it right next time than shaking 1 or 2 people.

Also I think Arteta was given the reigns for the city team against us. Why does Pep always do that?

Dissenter

CC We shouldn’t have renewed Chambers contract only to send him on a loan. He should have been sold and the Rockers used to bring in a player that suits Emery’s needs. I think we should have broken this Ramsey-fever more decisively . He should have been sold to anyone willing to pay a decent fee. The money should have been used to bring in players that suit Emery. -Welbeck should have been sold. He’s on his last year, isn’t he. The money could have been used to fund players that will suit Emery. We weren’t ruthless enough and resorted… Read more »

TitsMcGee

Sorry, but Emery is 0-1 in the book and in my opinion, just as fucking clueless as the jerk that just left.”

lol

1 game vs 14 years.

Get a grip.

Champagne charlie

Receding

Don’t be an idiot, nobody is giving Xhaka a pass. It’s not one or the other, it’s both.

And Xhaka as the senior player should’ve covered? Uhh no, that’s not how football works it doesn’t give a fuck about age. Bellerin got roasted inside and the COVERING player should’ve been Guendouzi to mop it up. He didn’t, he turned his back and Sterling to one step and banged it in. Showing for the ball doesn’t absolve that type of input. Neither does being new or 19. A player can be commended and criticised simultaneously.

Guns of Hackney

I’m done. Can’t argue with you lot today. Peace out.

Leftsidesanch

Lol Tits, it’s mind boggling stuff. Put that quote on one of those imbeciles on AFTV after the game and you’ll see our fanbase are so heavily derided.

Receding Hairline

Also I think Arteta was given the reigns for the city team against us. Why does Pep always do that?

Why does everyone say this like it is a fact? Where has this been established?

I really hope we don’t keep up this Arteta nonsense every time we have a bad result. Arteta is not a good manager, how do i know this, simple he has never managed before.

Champagne charlie

Dissenter

To be crystal clear, who is the “we” when you say those things?

Who are you blaming for Chambers and co staying?

Leftsidesanch

*why

Ishola70

And flip-flopping on Xjaka.

Flip-flops everywhere from Dissenter.

mysticleaves

“Guendouzi refused to hide, he made mistakes but still kept at it,” I don’t really know what this means receding. In the WHOLE 90mins our midfield did not hide. Xhaka at times played like a 3re CB because he kept on opening for the ball. Guendouzi did that too. Apart from the 1 misplaced Xhaka pass and the other time he was caught in possession he had a steady game considering the opposition. Guendouzi on the other hand ran the ball out twice under no pressure, maybe a farcical challenge on the goal, conceded possession that lead to the second… Read more »

mysticleaves

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Dissenter

Ishola No flip flopping on Cech I said that Cech looked better in the preseason because of the competition around him and the new goal keep coach. Tha5 doesn’t mean he should be starting games ahead of Leno. Leno should have been thrown into the deep end. He has played 233 competitive games for Leverkursen and should have started the opening game at home. Emery just needlessly create a problem for himself. The New highly rated and highly scouted keeper needs to start. If he squanders his chance then bring the old guy back in. It’s not the other way… Read more »

Receding Hairline

At least get the facts right Charlie , he did not turn his back, at least he moved towards Sterling and got bypassed. I watched the game for a full 90 and i am struggling to remember one defensive contribution from Xhaka. I have already admitted Matteo made mistakes, and i am sure those mistakes will keep happening , will he learn from them is what we will wait to see. That question has already been answered with regards to Xhaka. There are many games this season we will need Xhaka, i said from the off yesterday was not one… Read more »

TitsMcGee

Anyone that is devastated about yesterday had their head in the clouds. 14 years of shiite culture/poor recruitment doesn’t get erased in 2 months.

Looking at the schedule weeks ago you’d mark this game as an L.

OleGunner

Guns of Hackney,

You really are are raging lunatic.

Dissenter

Ishola
Some of us are capable of having a nuanced view about situations.we can weight both sides of the argument fairly. We don’t all have your peruile dead-end all or none thinking.
We aren’t all privileged to be world renowned Xhaka.logists..

mysticleaves

“Showing for the ball doesn’t absolve that type of input. Neither does being new or 19. A player can be commended and criticised simultaneously.”

This really. Guendouzi ain’t shit. Just not ready.

Dissenter, I thought Cexh had a solid game. The goals against him weren’t his fault and with the ball at his feet he did better than Ederson who is considered a master in the art.

Receding, look at how Pep hugged and kissed Arteta anytime they scored and his reaction towards Arteta at full-time. Its not certain, just a thought.

Ishola70

Dissenter You were praising the new GK coach yesterday. Do you seriously think the GK choice to start the match is just decided by Emery? Do you not think Emery goes to the GK coach to get his opinion? This is what usually happens Dissenter with keepers and more than any other position. A manager will lean heavily on his GK coach for his input and say so on the keepers at the club. So this GK coach was praised yesterday by you and now today he’s a bit of a loon. btw I perfectly see the problem wirh Cech… Read more »

mysticleaves

“I have already admitted Matteo made mistakes, and i am sure those mistakes will keep happening , will he learn from them is what we will wait to see. That question has already been answered with regards to Xhaka.”

So why the fuck were you arguing?

Receding Hairline

Receding, look at how Pep hugged and kissed Arteta anytime they scored and his reaction towards Arteta at full-time. Its not certain, just a thought.

Yea because a manager celebrating with an assistant means the assistant masterminded the victory. Hope this applies to every other Manager assistant celebration in history.

Receding Hairline

So why the fuck were you arguing?

You made three consecutive comments on here this morning trying to insinuate the defeat was a direct consequence of starting Guendouzi. I am not buying that. Like i have already said i will start him again and again

mysticleaves

Ishola

A manager will also know it will be stupid to drop a player without reason. Cech, since, Emery came in might not have done anything to be dropped for Leno.

Arsene made that mistake a lot of times and we lost Schezy and Ospina because of it. Chelsea lost Cech because of it and the stupid keeper they wanted to please made a hatful of errors and has already buggered off.

Ishola70

Dissenter
“Some of us are capable of having a nuanced view about situations.we can weight both sides of the argument fairly. We don’t all have your peruile dead-end all or none thinking.”

Puerile? As you know I have been saying for most of Xjaka’s tenure at Arsenal that he harms the team .

Dissenter finally cottons on 13 August 2018.

Well done. At last .

Receding Hairline

Girona and the New york team needed a new manager this season. I am surprised the great Arteta was not considered, probably satisfied masterminding victories against Arsenal and receiving hugs and kisses.

Dissenter

Guendouzi was placed in the position of playing with two senior midfielders. The first one deserted his posy and was the CF in the first half. The second one was making unchallenged errors and trying to creat assists for the opposition by the 10th minute. Other than that, all Xhaka did was go to the “safe” mode of “spraying” 5 yard sideways. Thats’sexactly what you call being thrown into the deep end of the pool. Of course he made errors. Of course he looked raw. It was his FIRST game. He was playing against possibly the best team in premier… Read more »

mysticleaves

“You made three consecutive comments on here this morning trying to insinuate the defeat was a direct consequence of starting Guendouzi”

Mind reader. I said the 11 was off. Guendouzi was a part of the reason. He’s too green and not ready. I also made other points. Look and I said it’s my opinion.

You will start with Guendouzi, I rather he doesnt start. But to paint Guen as a better player and had a better game than Xhaka yesterday is joke worthy. Xhaka ain’t ideal but neither is Guendouzi ATM.

Ishola70

mystic

Judging by Emery’s comments in his post match presser Leno will again not be lining up against Chelsea.

Emery said Leno will have to wait and is clearly seen as reserve at this point.

Things can change of course.

Cesc Appeal

It is just as most everyone thought, the beginning to a long road to recovery. This is going to take years. The squad is littered with average players and players who has slowly rotted at Arsenal for years with only a £70 Million budget to fix it and no players with any sell on value. I still say last summer the total f**k up of the Sanchez and Ozil situation was the equivalent of blowing a limb off, serious injury done. Sanchez should have been sold for £50-60 Million and we should have sold Ozil for whatever we could get… Read more »

mysticleaves

” Hope this applies to every other Manager assistant celebration in history.”

Maybe, maybe not. That was single and precise. And he has done it before. Forgive me for assuming he could do it again.

Receding Hairline

A manager will also know it will be stupid to drop a player without reason. Cech, since, Emery came in might not have done anything to be dropped for Leno.

Nor did Cech do anything wrong yesterday. If keeping us in the game was wrong then i am following the wrong sport. if i were in his shoes i would have simply booted the ball up field, F*ck all that building from the back shit

Dissenter

Ishola
“Puerile”…offends you?
So does you labeling me with “flip-flopping” because I said Cech was improved or didn’t join the daily Xhaka-lynch you set up here all the time.
Cottons on?
Get an active noise reducing head phone instead, may I suggest a Bose QC 35 II?

You can’t tolerate banter again?

UTarse

Arsenal fans, what a funny bunch.

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