Emery working on his English as Carcedo drops some prime banter

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I’m out in Oregon at the moment, without doubt, one of the most spectacular places in America. Highly recommended if you like being outdoors.

When I was out and about today, I had a realisation… I really have no tension point to riff off at the the moment when it comes to Arsenal. I’ve had ten years of being able to smash out content about how I’ve felt wronged by Arsenal, within 6 months, we’ve gone from 1800 word thought pieces on the demise of Arsenal, to having literally nothing to complain about at all bar an unsigned Rambo contract.

Not that this isn’t a good thing, it just feels really odd to come to the internet every morning and feel excited about something new that we’ve not seen before. The club is no doubt in full propaganda mode, but it’s the good kind of propaganda. This must be how the base feel when they throw on a bit of Sean Hannity… or how my dad felt when David Beckham got caught with his pants down.

Carcedo screaming at a player for playing a Mesut Ozil pass when he’s not Mesut Ozil. Absolute classic banter from someone who has spent 2 months on the language.

Watching the coach teach one vs one defending, then showing the players how that works tactically.

Seeing Petr Cech moving the ball short as the defence and midfield practice moving the ball out the back.

Just being able to see the training sessions feels so interesting. Apparently, Emery was the same when he was at PSG. He seems to be a very open manager. I can’t wait to hear him talk about his plans for the team when he’s a few months into the job.

I like that he’s been pretty blunt about Jack Wilshere not fitting into his plans.

‘It was a tactical, technical decision,”

“The conversation with Wilshere was a very good conversation. I explained to him my opinion and how I will want to create the team and not sure [I could] say to him he’s going to play in the XI.’

“I know this player is very important for the supporters, he grew up here with Arsenal. But I don’t give for him one post in the starting XI. It’s for that he chose to leave here and I respect this.”

I think Arsenal fans have lost their head over his departure and his omission from the England squad. The semi-final didn’t need him. This is a guy who has offered up nothing but average over the last 5 years for us and Bournemouth. Emery is right, he’s seeing the move through cold eyes and he’s made the right decision.

You kind of feel some sections of the press have a draft article titled…

‘What Arsenal miss is the FIGHT of Jack Wilshere’

… ready to roll when we get buried twice in the opening two games of the season. Seems weird that anyone is still asking questions about a bit part player from last season. If he were good enough for us, he’d have moved somewhere more interesting than West Ham.

Some things never change though, regardless of who the manager is. This is Emery on the next captain.

“My first idea is to have five captains in the team,”

“But at the moment, I don’t know the names. I need to know more and also, firstly, Koscielny is the first captain now and for me, I have respect for that.

“Then, we are looking at, looking for, who are the players whose personality is the best in the dressing room. We want to keep the respect for these players and to find the captain and choose very well the best player for that.”

Sooooo, the captain is a guy who won’t start the season. Been here before, amirite? Remember Wenger in 2008?

‘I don’t believe too much in leadership,’

‘I believe more in good passing than a guy who jumps around with the hands in the air and plays the leader.’

I can’t see past Ramsey myself. He’d also suit the mixer, always injured, a contract rebel, you know the deal!

Final piece goes to Mesut, who the manager has a plan for.

“We are here to help every player,” Emery said. “For us Mesut is a very important player. We want to help to be well, fine with us.

“Last year was a difficult year for all the team, not only for Mesut,”

“They finished sixth in the Premier League – not the position we want.

“Now it’s a new way. With all the players I want to give them confidence, to give them a chance every day in their work. With quality work it is very easy to arrive at the performance, individual and collective. Mesut is on holiday and I want him to be tranquil and calm.

“We want the international players to come back quickly and start practising hard with us. But it is also important for them to have holidays because the season is very, very hard and very, very long. They need holidays to come full of energy for the start and to give us this quality and this energy in the team.”

Hopefully, this time around, we’ll land all our international players back for the first game of the season, something Chelsea and City won’t be able to do.

Arsenal have also tried to quell my chat about language issues.

“For me and for my staff also, it’s very important, the communication with all of the club,”

“With Ivan, with Raul, with Sven, with the people who are working here and then with the players. The message is very quickly [to learn] and make ourselves very clear to help the relationship together and to communicate individually.

“Am I getting better? I think so, yes!”

I’m fascinated to see if all these double sessions the team are doing will impact the team. We absolutely need to do them, because our players have a tactical IQ of a degenirate cave child and they need a lot of help to embrace the new ideas. The question is whether that impacts the injuries of the players. How will their bodies take the load? How good is the new fitness coach Darren Burgess reports into? Can those two work out a method that gives the coach what he wants without inflicting a 2010 like December collapse in energy?

We shall see… plenty to look forward to.

See you in the comment x

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Rambo Ramsey

“People are afraid of Islam because the media tells them to be”

Yes, cause all people are sheep with non functioning brains.

Clown.

Marko

“Marvel Announces Black Widow Standalone Film”Who the fvck will watch that?

Nerds and idiots

bennydevito

And there wouldn’t be a refugee or immigration crisis if the West hadn’t caused the problem. You only need to look at Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya to see why we have the problems we have, and then there’s Syria where Assad is killing his own people for opposing him backed by Russia who are taking over the pop and gas and building more bases with Iran who are sending in their Shia militias to kill those on the ground not killed by Assad’s or Putin’s bombs, and Assad, a Shia, is handing over all the abandoned Sunni Syrian houses to… Read more »

bennydevito

Rambo RamseyJuly 14, 2018    21:28:38

“People are afraid of Islam because the media tells them to be”

Yes, cause all people are sheep with non functioning brains.

Clown

Rambo, correct, I’m glad you’ve realised. Most people are sheep with non functioning brains and are so easily led, you only need to look at the huge turnouts for anything to do with Donald Trump to see this.

Marko

Sanmi you can still be racist even if you’re black. Also I doubt you’re actually from Lagos. Highly doubt some Nigerian from Lagos cares about lower taxes in America. Also lower taxes? Anyway I’d say you’re just a cunt masquerading as a black guy pretending not to be an idiot. You started all this shit

Sanmi

Anyone who thinks radical Islam hates the west and everyone else bcos of invasion hasn’t read the quran.
If you take it exactly the way it is written, every westerners will be murdered. Only nominal Muslims are peaceful, that cherry pick the quran.

Guns of Brixton

In Nigeria You Have Boko Haraam A Political Group Who Stole A religion to justify a reason for killing. 2 things any Radical group uses. 1. NATIONALISM Tell them its there duty as “insert ethnicity” to protect their people and stop them being wiped out. Easy and cheap and gets emotions going and your followers will feed of this nationalism and work themselves. 2. RELIGION quote scripture out of any context and Politicise it to pump your followers here. Tell them its there religious duty and that god will be “proud” of them. Show them graphic and horrible pics of… Read more »

HillWood

Anyway most of my check ups are now done at Barts Hospital so I don’t have to go into these shit holes so much now

TheLegendaryDB10

I’ll say one thing to add to the debate: divide and conquer. That was and still is what the powers that be want. It helps cause fear and keeps people looking at the smaller picture instead of the bigger picture at hand. Sanmi. Trump is a piece of shit. He is using divide and conquer tactics by increasing tariff barriers which can destabilise the world economy so that he can make “America great again”. Why do you think he is pro-Brexit? Because it will weaken Europe. One other thing, and this will not be popular: religion has never helped anything.… Read more »

bennydevito

Sanni, that’s my point entirely – there’s no such thing as radical Islam because what these people do is not Islamic. This is a media driven term that you and the sheep have fallen for. They may be radical, but they’re not Islam. Earn the difference.

bennydevito

*learn the difference. Bloody autocorrect!

Sanmi

Bendevito

It’s easy really, Mohammed and Jesus. Look at their lifestyles what do u see?
Whatever they did was what the followers were to do…
You want 1 billion Mohammeds? You won’t dare. That’s 1 billion warlords pillaging every one else.
1 billion Jesus? They will just be preaching all the way moving from place to place.

That’s is what both books are about

bennydevito

Sanmi, the Qur’an does not say every Westerner will be murdered. Total utter bollocks. A computer program scanned the Torah(old testament) and the Qur’an for words of hate and death, and for words of love and peace, and guess what? The Old Testament was over twice as violent and the Qur’an was twice as loving. Make of that what you will. And for the record if the West and all the Tommy the tit lovers want something to be afraid of then they should look more into Zionism and Judaism and see what Judaic end times scripture says about the… Read more »

Sanmi

Thelegend
So Europe and Canada can put tarriffs on US, but USA can’t do the same?
He basically said to take away his tariffs, take away yours let’s all be at zero.
That’s common sense that Obama doesn’t have

Sanmi

Bendevito
I won’t go into arguing on subjective points, used by liberals. The easiest and undisprovable argument is: would you like to live with 1 billion Mohammeds or Jesus, assuming you were never gonna convert to their religions.

That is the litmus test

Emiratesstroller

Pierre The key is to find by the start of next season a solid defensive base along the spine. I think that it is highly likely that we will play: GK LENO RCB SOKRATIS LCB ? [? Mustafi/Mavropanos] DMF TORREIRA My guess is that Cech could land up competing with Martinez for second and third string places as GK in squad. Chambers will be cover for Sokratis in RCB and Mustafi or Mavropanos will be cover for each other. The question will then be what if any role will be offered to Koscielny when he returns from injury. Xhaka will… Read more »

Guns of Brixton

I would live with both

Sanmi

Guns
Ok, good luck.

Guns of Brixton

You have some mad real misconceptions yo

Sanmi

I’m not convinced by sokratis
Saw his clips in dortmund I wasn’t convinced, saw it today, same result.

He does too many last ditch tackles for me. Which is an indication of poor positioning and game reading

TheLegendaryDB10

Sanmi Look into TTIP. A law they tried to force on other countries which would allow their companies to sue a government (!!!) if they were not able to get their way (And make a profit of course). He is not about making the world a better a place. He is all about making the US the top dog and fuck everyone else. You think Trump is good? What do you think of him allowing illegal immigrant children being separated from their parents? Do you think that this is what a good human being would do? He does not give… Read more »

Alone + Easy Target

bennydevito is literally based and redpilled

inb4 oy vey

tbh radicalism is not good no matter what ideology as you can see with the Islam radicalism and this recent far-left and far-right/alt-right nonsense but that’s a no brainer statement innit?

bennydevito

Alone +easy target,

Eh? I am literally based and red pilled? What do you mean?

Waldo

Pedro – If you are still in the Portland area on Sunday, swing by and join us at a PDX Gooner pub, Beulahland, for the final. (beulahlandpdx.com)

First 8am pint is on me…

Alone + Easy Target

@bennydevito

it’s just the same concept as being “woke” I guess haha

enough of things non-Arsenal lads

As we can see from this match we gonna play more direct so Atletico will be the real test hopefully so would be interesting to compare from the last encounter against them.

TheLegendaryDB10

Alone + Easy Target

Let’s focus on the PL before setting our sights further. We have Shitty and Chelski to contend first. Let’s see how we fare against them

It may take Unai more time than this game showed us what we can do. Let’s not get carried away, we only played Borehamwood this far. But it is a good start. We did not let off after the first half and that is a good sign.

UTarse

Wow.
The most bizarre comments section in memory. Some proper weirdos on here.

Let the premiership begin. #anticipation

ADKB

Colney Gooner / Pierre

Hi there! I was there too. The arrangements were a bit so so. I had a West Stand seating ticket and the guys didn’t know where to send us so we had to do a full circle around the stadium.

I posted when I got back home around 7pm and fell asleep. Just woke up now.

Yeah the opposition wasn’t great but there are good signs of something different on the way. That’s unlike previous years when you knew what was going to happen anyways. Good to freshen things up.

Akilan

OK, the most extreme Islamic country is literally a kingdom, which in turn is actually an US colony.

There I said it people, Saudi Arabia is an US colony.

Now prove me wrong.

Akilan

Saudi Arabia, the most extreme Islamic country that has Qur’an and Sharia as their constitution is the officially(well, not literally) an ally of Israel.

You couldn’t make this shit up, could you?

Akilan

Before someone calls me a hater, no I don’t hate the west. In fact, you can say the world has been a better place since Americans took over. Go back to 1945, there was always constant wars going on between big powers. Since then its been a relatively peaceful world. They did fuck up a lot of countries like Libya, Iraq, Syria. They are incompetent and incoherent when it comes to foreign policy, but still did an OK job of policing the world. Also you can’t deny America and the CIA had a hand in modern day “Islamic terrorism “.… Read more »

Akilan

All I am saying is there is no such thing as permanent enemies when it comes to geopolitics. You have interests and conflict of interests. Also people are people wherever you go. I’m pretty sure 99% of Muslims just want to live their life, like getting a job, providing for their families just like, you know, the rest of us. Another fun fact, 80% of Muslims don’t speak Arabic and they don’t even know what is there in Qur’an. In fact most Muslims don’t care about their religion like the rest of us. There are bigger things to worry about… Read more »

TonyD

kcJuly 14, 2018 20:16:00 “You fuckers wouldn’t even have a Country right now if it wasn’t for Americans.” Yup! It took the sinking of the Lusitania for the Americans to help Europe in WW1, then in WW2 Americans didn’t want any part of it because Joseph Kennedy was making too much money with Hitler, and then finally the Americans sent WW1 rifles and ammunition as a grand gesture then charged Britain so much for that pretty useless armament that Britain were still paying the debt off in 2000. Then finally the Americans joined WW2 after Pearl Harbour, which they knew… Read more »

Sanmi

The Legend
You said it yourself, illegal immigrants. You are illegal, you deserve whatever you get. It’s a crime.
Plus Obama detained them and there was no uproar.

Marko,
If you are doubting I am in lagos, other Nigerians here can buttress the fact that I am.

About racism, I was merely echoing the logic of liberals, Obama is the most openly racist president of the western world.

gonsterous

some things are just not worth debating. like politics and religion. hell, some people get touchy on the subject of food…

karim

You said it yourself, illegal immigrants. You are illegal, you deserve whatever you get. It’s a crime.

Reminds me of the young muslim guy the cops shot in the neck last week in France, they changed their statements 3 times in a week.

All you could hear on the french equivalent of Fox News ( BMF tv ) was :
«  But he was involved in a drug business you know »

Fuck you Sanmi

karim

You and London Gunner are racist hypocrites who won’t admit it, just like the one you worship actually.

Tr7 is made of the same wood by the way folks.

Alright, got a World Cup final to win, have a great Sunday one and all !

Wallace

Marko

don’t often get the chance to say it, nice posts!

always kinda terrifying reading le grove when it turns to non-football related stuff, but also sorta interesting. sorta.

Rambo Ramsey

karim

“You and London Gunner are racist hypocrites who won’t admit it, just like the one you worship actually. Tr7 is made of the same wood by the way folks.”

Get over yourself, you pathetic Liberal twat. You don’t even have the capacity to engage in a debate and argue your case.

The only intolerant numpties on here are folks such as yourself who can’t stand difference of opinion.

”Ooh my PC way is the only right way, anyone else who doesn’t parrot the same are backwards cave-dwellers or racists or bigots or some sort of phobes.”

karim

Hate political correctness Rambo and you just need to read the whole conversation ( started last night ) to see who are the pathetic ones.

Sanmi

Karim
You just called me a racist?..lol
Just because I am against open borders and illegal immigration.

I’m an African that reside in Africa, it doesn’t mean I won’t call a spade a spade.

Mass refugees is a bad idea. And I am really concerned bcos if Europe and USA falls, we are all screwed. Who will hold the tyrants accountable?
Europe is very close to beyond saving. America just bought themselves 8yrs of sanity with trump, Obama was gonna destroy them.

Rambo Ramsey

“Hate political correctness Rambo”

Is that why you are branding people racists, just because they have the temerity to not share your views on Immigration?

You Liberals need to get in your thick heads- You are nobodies, you don’t get to decide what is right and what is wrong-whether its action or speech, you don’t get to expect everyone to follow your made-up rules.

karim

” Mass refugees is a bad idea ”
Yeah let them die in the sea or eat up our bombs, that’s a better idea.

” 8 years of sanity ”
Loool ! Nice one

” Who will hold the tyrants accountable ? ”
The only ” tyrants ” the west has been fighting didn’t serve their interests, nothing to do with freedom or so called democracy.
Get real !

Sanmi

The reason liberals are triggered is because their arguments are never logical. They have to resort to name calling and violence.

Apologies to every other person that came to this blog for football, we are being starved of football so we have resorted to politics.
I’ve never been a fan of politics bcos i believe all politicians are liars, never do what they say. But a certain Donald trump started echoing my very own thoughts and he’s doing them exactly what he promised. It’s a pleasant dream.

karim

Ramsey

It’s just a hate speech basically.

karim

When the Islamic hoardes are about 20million strong, then you will have ur laws changed to suit them. Was in sweden, and the swedes dread going to neighborhood with Arab inhabitants. It was declared a no go zone. You want 1 billion Mohammeds? You won’t dare. That’s 1 billion warlords pillaging every one else. Anyway most of my check ups are now done at Barts Hospital so I don’t have to go into these shit holes so much now its OK to have gangs of Algerians stabbing, robbing and assaulting people. Where I live Algerians get drunk and stab people… Read more »

Emiratesstroller

Wallace

Well said this is supposed to be a Football blog and not a political or anti Trump tirade.

There are plenty of other blogs available if you want to engage in these matters.

I have always been interested in politics, but not at the level spewed out here.

Let’s get back to some sensible discussion about football whether regarding
today’s World Cup Final or Arsenal.

gonsterous

well this is me jumping into politics now. having spent 8 years in Europe, I can safely say, there are ignorant people who just eat every thing propaganda sells them. one of my classmate is African and the teacher one day literally asked him, how does a plane land in Africa with all the jungle ? and she claimed to have gone to uni.. (music major, I found out later) but on the other hand there are people who want people fighting poverty and hardship to come and have a better life, because the west take most of the resources… Read more »

Rambo Ramsey

“Yeah let them die in the sea or eat up our bombs, that’s a better idea.”

And do you apply this generosity in your own personal space? Is Karim’s house open to anyone and everyone that wants to take up shelter there?

Will you share all your resources and support them?

You see, not everyone will be as benevolent as you purport to be. And that’s okay, its not a crime and nor are these people racist cvnts.

Sanmi

Karim
The term hate speech makes no sense. It’s an attempt by the left to shut down arguments they disagree with. You are free to criticize whatever catches your fancy. I can criticize your culture or religion, you can do the same to me.

karim

Ramsey

Exactly the arguments the national front use in here…
Oh, and you’re welcome by the way.

Sanmi

For karim to prove to me that he actively supports open borders, he must do:
1. Remove the doors to his house, let everyone come in and take whatever they need.
2. Never have a bank account, whatever you make should be shared, whatever you buy should be shared.
3. You cannot have any property in your name, it must be in the name of the world, where we can all use it whenever we please.

Deal?

Wallace

karim

mate, leave them to it. not worth your time.

karim

Bye bye Daily Mail !

karim

Cheers Wallace, you’re right.
Sorry everybody

Rambo Ramsey

karim,

And what are your counter-arguments? Oh you don’t have any other than your pretentious pontification of being a better human being.

Just happy to look at the surface- Everyone must kiss and hug and dance to the Kumbaya tune- A sweet fantasy. Why bother looking deeper?

Pierre

Stroller The least we can expect is that Arsenal are fully prepared for the start of the season.. The players should be fully primed and ready for city and chelsea. All too often in previous years the fans have been left shaking their heads at the lack of preparation and consequently we have had to play catch up. This season we can actually steal a march on them due to the world cup… My main worry is probably the same as yours… Our ability to defend as a unit. I am hoping that Mavropanos proves to be good enough.. He… Read more »

TR7

““You and London Gunner are racist hypocrites who won’t admit it, just like the one you worship actually. Tr7 is made of the same wood by the way folks.” Islam is not a race, so criticizing Islam is not racism. I thought you being a teacher would know better. Secondly, no amount of name calling can stop me from pointing out there are verses in the Quran which condone violence against non believers, gays and women. I will keep pointing out that multiculturalism is merely a utopian fantasy that even the most powerful European of modern times Angela Merkel failed… Read more »

gonsterous

and there we have it folks, the most pointless debate on le grove
how do u think they did Richard Osman ?
richard : yes, that debate was pointless. some other pointless debate answers were Wenger, WW2 and the nazis…

Nw9 gooner

Guys just let it go- one’views may not be acceptable to others and no amount of arguments will change it . Like ES said keep ourselves confined to football. Just see even a cool guy like Kareem has got provoked- not worth it

raptora

Yeah, politics should not really be engaged on a football forum, but I read very carefully and was thoroughly interested in the conversation. There will always be different opinion on different tough subjects but diversity is deep rooted in our humane nature so it’s absolutely normal for 2 different people to have a different opinion on the same problem. Thing is that like almost always both views have a point and not one of them is absolutely entirely right. That’s why I don’t like religion and the so-called Holy Books. They are supposed to make you believe that absolutely they… Read more »

Receding hairline

Thought this is a football blog

karim

Vicky

Again, you have every right to criticize religions
I mean, the fundamentalists killed 250,000 people in Algeria in the ‘90s so I know how dangerous they can be

Not a reason to single out individuals the way London did, we all know where that leads us to.

SUGA3

As an immigrant myself, I can say only one thing: when you come to a particular country for it is giving you better opportunities, your stinking duty is to fucking assimilate. Multiculturalism is absolute hogwash, sure, be proud of your heritage and all that, but don’t try to play a hyper victim and impose your rules on the others. Simple. Multicultural society is a pipe dream. Sounds nice, but it is all just a buzzword. Look up Kallergi plan: Frau Merkel has received Kallergi Prize recently. Thank fuck there are still some countries in Europe (including my old country), that… Read more »

Jamie

“there is not a single Muslim majority country where minorities are safe”

“All these are incontrovertible and undeniable facts”

Spoken like someone who has never set foot on Malaysian, Maldivian, Indonesian, United Arab Emirati , or Turkish soil. Perfectly safe places to live as a non-Muslim.

raptora

Also one thing I forgot to add: A big part of the refugees I’ve seen in Berlin have some decent money. And by decent I mean that they were driving last model BMW x5, Mercedes, Audi and so on. So they definitely had the choice to pick where they want to live and were not in that dire condition we were presented. Also, everyone has read how refugees were stationed in not so wealthy countries like my Bulgaria, and Romania and the eastern Europe as a whole, Slovakia, and so on, others were in the north where countries are rich… Read more »

SUGA3

er, Jamie,

‘According to the former President Maumoon Abdul Gayoom, no religion other than Islam should be allowed in the Maldives. Public practise of the Christian religion is prohibited. (…) Citizens of the Maldives who convert to Christianity lose their citizenship and risk torture. ‘

you were saying?

Jamie

SUGA3

I lived on Villingili in the Maldives for 4 years. Still not Muslim. Explain please.

SUGA3

simple: you live by the rules

Nw9 gooner

When are Ozil and Xhaka coming back

SUGA3

raptora,

my point exactly

Jamie

“simple: you live by the rules” wasn’t the “undeniable and incontrovertible fact,” it was “there is not a single Muslim majority country where minorities are safe” which is neither ‘undeniable’ not ‘incontrovertible’.

Try again.

Jamie

nor* rather than not

SUGA3

I think you have difficulties with comprehension of written text, amigo.

I do not necessarily agree that there are no majorly muslim countries where ‘no minorities are safe’. Just pointed out that it was outright illegal to practice Christianity in Maldives. So it is not really perfectly safe for any minority. Logic. Move on.

karim

Migrants with Mercedes and Audi’s
Free apartments

Yeah, right !

Jamie

In the Maldives, as with in UAE (a sister of mine lives in Dubai), I don’t live by ‘the rules’. If I tried to regale you with tales of how inebriated I’ve been in both of those places countless times, we’d be here until Chinese New Year. I’ve gotten smashed in each of the countries I listed above.

I feel significantly safer in Dubai than I do in LA.

This place is clothed in ignorance.

Jamie

SUGA3 trying to shift the goal posts. Poor effort, kid.

SUGA3

No, Jamie, read what I wrote and remember that you were responding to someone else’s post. My only challenge to what you said was that it was not perfectly safe for any minority in the Maldives. Supported by facts. Like I said, move on.

Jamie

It is perfectly safe to be Christian in the Maldives. You haven’t been. Wikipedia won’t help you here.

Get a passport, learn a second or third language, travel, broaden your horizons, come back to the table as a learned adult.

‘internet facts’ are hilarious.

raptora

karim,
there have been numerous riots in Bulgaria because the refugees want better conditions than we are giving them. But our country is poor. We are doing our best. They don’t want to live here of course. Most of the refugees who came to Bulgaria, left. Because being safe and alive for them is not enough. Same thing has happened to the ones in Iceland, Sweden and so on. They all want to go to Germany, Austria and Belgium.

Nw9 gooner

I hope Mbappe or Griezman scores a hat trick – will win the golden boot. Kane just doesn’t deserve it- one field goal and has been very poor otherwise also

raptora

Germany, Austria, Belgium and the Netherlands.

TR7

Karim

As I said, the only reason I am found criticizing Islam is because that’s often is the topic of non-footballing debate here. Although I believe in God, I find all religions to be full of falsehood and duplicitous to varying degrees.

Ivan

Raptora – ofc they do. They lived in well oganised society and they werent poor. Then war breached their country couse some foregin interest in their natural resources and all country went to hell. Its only natural they seek something better. Im for Croatia, and imigrants dont wanna stay here too. It tells alot about how well run is my country too.

Ivan

*from Croatia

Ishola70

Jamie

Are you seriously comparing yourself “getting smashed” in the Maldives and your short experiences there as a non-national visitor to the country in comparison to a local born and bred every day Maldivian?

karim

Tr7

Ok, apologies for calling you a racist !

Ivan

Good luck Hrvatska !

Jamie

Ishola70 –

I was citing an example of ‘a Muslim majority country where minorities feel safe’, which TR7 stated did not exist as an ‘undeniable and incontrovertible fact’.

His ‘fact’ ceases to be one by virtue of me flaunting ‘Sharia Law’ on the daily in muslim majority countries over the decades. Never been arrested or threatened. What gives?

Not for nothing, I’ll be in Dubai early August where I plan to get inebriated in the Irish Village with my sister and her other half. Again.

Ishola70

Jamie

You are a tourist in these countries or if not a tourist in the truest sense you are on short visits.

Just because you visit these countries and have no problems yourself and can get drunk on Pina Colada on a Maldivian beach is not really having the real pulse of the island is it.

And Dubai has been known as a whoring and drinking destination for a while now. Again primed for tourists/non-national short time visitors.

Jamie

Ishola,

I lived in the Maldives on a local island for 4 years.

My sister has lived in Dubai for 8 years and counting, lived in sin and then married a guy from St Kitts.

Neither of us have ever been arrested or threatened for flaunting Muslim law as a minority.

That’s what an undeniable and incontrovertible fact looks like.

Ishola70

If you are a Maldivian national in the minority on these islands at this current time and recent past then you cannot be termed as “safe” with the current regime there.

If you are on a jolly as a short time visitor to the country then you will be safe enough.

Ishola70

Are you a Maldivian national Jamie?

What island did you live on? Was this island you lived on predominately of Maldivian nationality?

Jamie

Ishola,

I lived on Villingili, a 20 dhoni ride to Male.

Jamie

20 min* dhoni ride

Ishola70

And how many years ago was it you lived there Jamie?

Last question.

Ishola70

Before we go any further we must point out and it is well known in many countries that ex-pats or those with money can behave and get away with behaviour that everyday nationals would not get away with.

Jamie

Almost 15 years ago now. Good times.

Ishola70

15 years ago?

Well congratulate yourself that you visited those islands in more tolerant times.

And glad that you did and enjoyed it.

TR7

Jamie

Even in violence inflicted Kashmir, tourists are rarely attacked. Reason? The livelihood of people is dependent on tourism. But in the same Kashmir you can’t buy a piece of land if you happen to be a non-Muslim. That’s the point I wanted to make.You having a gala time in Dubai and Maldive does not dilute the point I am making here. Maldive, Malaysia and Dubai are famous tourist destinations.Turkey again is a very convenient example due to its specific location.

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