‘Toughness’ of Arteta called into question

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I am in LA this week. Outside my hotel? Drip Doctors. That weird little place Samir Nasri went to get an intravenous drip. I am going to head in their tomorrow and ask for whatever he had.

Back onto Arsenal. Arteta landed a vote of no-confidence from Henry Winter on the Sunday Supplement. He’s strongly against the Spaniard, citing Diego Simeone as the man we need to sort out the soft underbelly of the weak Arsenal stars.

“Arsenal need a complete clear out – they need a strong, experienced, individual to address the failings,”

“Someone needs to go in and sort out that dressing room, to get rid of Shkodran Mustafi and to coach Hector Bellerin.

“How many world class players are there in that squad? Mesut Ozil, Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang?

“They need a Diego Simeone type. Someone who is tough and can get into that soft dressing room, that soft boardroom – there is a soft executive feel at that club. There is a malaise that runs right through the club, which won’t be solved by Wenger going – he was only partly the cause of it. They need stronger individuals in there.”

“Arteta was part of the problem with the Wenger era in terms of he was supposed to be a leader there when the club was drifting. He’s got to explain how he can break that.”

Aggressive words there, and I’m sure many Arsenal fans will buy into them. But for me, they’re off the mark.

The notion of a big scary coach is an old-fashioned one. You can’t shout your way to success these days, and I have my doubts that fear and intimidation is how Diego is extracting the most from his players so consistently.

I also don’t know where the notion that Arteta isn’t tough comes from? He left Spain to play in France, before taking his pretty boy looks up to Glasgow (which is a pretty brutal league and city). Then he played at Everton for years, before coming to a broken Arsenal that was replacing Cesc and Nasri. We didn’t drop out the top 4 under Arteta. In his last season, we made 2nd for the first time since 2005.

This piece out of Per’s book gives you a good idea of how bad things were under Wenger.

The youth players who were promoted to the first team smiled at these exercises. They thought we were meditating. They were happy with the ball at their feet but for everything else there was a lack of desire. “I play football and go to training. That’s enough.”

Footballers are used to working only three hours a day. And out of the three hours they are at the training ground they are on their mobiles for half of that.

A lot of players don’t even know what maximum is – for them it is about having fun on the pitch. But there is more to being a professional than that.

In the autumn of 2017 an under-18 player came and asked whether we could sit down for a chat. I nearly fell over, I was so surprised. That hadn’t happened in the six and a half years I had been there. He wanted to speak to me about leadership.

I used a lot of energy trying to convince team-mates they should do more for their bodies and try new things. But working long term to improve their weaknesses? Hardly anyone.

I just cannot imagine being a young pro and not wanting to leech the experience from a World Cup winner like Per! I told you the real story about how average Wenger was would  creep out once he retired, there’s a little snippet.

Malaise doesn’t come from the players, it comes from the manager. When you’re at Arsenal’s level, there isn’t really such thing as a lazy professional, just an unmotivated one.

Just look at how many players left Arsenal during the banter years and won major honours. Look at how many great players came in and went totally off the rails. It was never about the players, it was always about a bad manager who didn’t care about the details.

The weakness at the executive level that Henry mentioned appears to have been addressed. We’ve hired the exSporting Director of Barcelona. We’ve hired in the best scout in the world. We hired in an elite contracts guy. Stan has taken a back seat to Josh K, who knows if that’s a good move, all I know is Wenger is gone and Josh has been here 14minutes.

Ivan is making the right moves.

He’s also making an ambitious play with his manager. He’s ignoring calls for a big name… and remember, the same folk calling for a winner were probably celebrating LVG at United, and then his subsequent replacement in Mourinho.

No one guarantees success, and the people least likely to give you that are the ones that have already failed. Carlo doesn’t have the ideas to better Pep, especially at a team that doesn’t have anywhere near the resources he’s had at previous clubs. Enrique and Allegri have already thrown in the towel, both leaking that they’d need £200m to do the job. Arsenal need a coach who is ambitious to do great things with the tools he has at his disposal. Klopp is doing it at Liverpool at the moment, he didn’t bitch about money. He just cracked on.

Arteta is a risk, but for me, the rewards on offer are very exciting should it work out. Give me someone with desire over a hack just in it for the pay bump. Just look at Conte this season, all he wants is a payoff and a nice sabbatical. Chelsea means nothing to him.

If you’re going to write off Arteta, let’s make sure we’re slamming him for the right reasons. Critiquing him for not being a tough guy is a nonsense. Alluding to needing a strong manager to scare the exec suite is also a bit of a myth. I’ve read so many people say the club are only hiring Arteta because they can control him.

THINK ABOUT THAT

No club in the world wants to hire a manager they can’t control, because a business is a structure built on hierarchy, values and respect. Accepting an out of control manager shows you are weak and insecure about what you want. It’s certainly not something any club would actively seek out. We’ve literally just binned a manager who bossed the board, and that problem took 10 years to solve.

The main stick to beat Arteta with is experience. He hasn’t managed a top club, and that’s certainly an issue when it comes to optics. However, we’ve seen countless examples of rookies crushing it this season, so if his ideas and vision for the club were exciting in the interview and the references check out… then you have an exciting problem.

Hopefully we’ll find out the decision this week…

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  1. Hitman

    Arteta didn’t have any experience and tainted by association with Wenger failure years.
    Need a fresh start with outsider who will drain the N5 swamp. MAGA.

  2. Do One Gambon

    Totally expect tomorrow it all changes, media and fans jumped on a band wagon once again and arsenal go right out of left field and bring in jurgen klinnsmann

  3. Ben D

    It really looks like anyone is considered to be good until they arrive at Arsenal. Emery is a very good coach. You don’t win 3 back to back Europa league trophies and get to coach PSG without being good. Now that he’s signed for Arsenal, the narrative is all negative. We are just unbelievable.

    Many years ago I commented that Arsenal fans always think what they haven’t got is better than what we have. It’s amusing to observe the nostalgia with which some speak of Giroud after he left for Chelsea.

    This could turn out to be a really really good appointment. There are some better coaches than him, but he is up there with the best, imo

  4. Ben D

    Very interesting that some think Poch (who has won nothing) is better than Emery. What’s the criteria?

  5. China

    I for one am very happy wit emery.

    I’d have supported arteta if he came but his lack of experience made him an exceptional gamble.

    None of us can be sure if emery will do the business but at least we have a reasonable manager, who has won trophies on a tight budget.

    Very pleased.

  6. Bamford10

    Good appointment. Very happy.

    Pedro’s post tomorrow should be interesting: it could be the first time his POV is at odds with 99.9% of the posters here.

    Who is Le Grove — Pedro or Le Grove? 😉

  7. TonyD

    Everyone has to understand that this is a huge undertaking for Emery or any experienced coach. Pep & Klopp both needed time to get City and Pool firing.

    Neither had the financial restrictions Emery is going to have, so maybe he’ll need longer. Although now it’s time for Sven & Raul to really show why Gazidis hired them.

    The spotlight is as much on them as it is Emery.

  8. Zfree

    Been smiling reading these posts and thinking about next season. Tricky by the management team, had most hoodwinked on Arteta rumors.

    I know this is a huge stretch so don’t jump down my throat, but I’ve had a coach more in the fatherly mold of Arsene, who didnt rock the boat, yell, made referee excuses, always told us we were the best, etc. We were soft and he was eventually revealed as a dipshit fraud. I’ve also had coaches that were hard asses, screamed at us, called us the pussies we were when warranted. He was fair though, he also loved us, wanted us to succeed at the highest possible levels, praised us when it was deserved, which of course means so much more.

    Can’t wait for more of that, and I think the athletes will relish it actually as well.

  9. TonyD

    I have to admit I didn’t know much about Emery other than his PSG credentials. Reading this I have to say I like what I’m reading.

    “Along with his video analysts, Emery will spend up to twelve hours working on the cut. Players are loaded with information, both in the video suite at the training ground and then as a going-home present.

    ‘There were so many videos I ran out of popcorn,’ his former Valencia winger Joaquin joked.

    At Valencia, Emery would give his players pen drives to take away, packed with precise preparation for their opponents. When defender Jeremy Mathieu was thought to be shirking, Emery surprised him at training. ‘What did you think of it?’ Emery asked. The player nodded, ‘Very good, boss.’ Emery then revealed he had given Mathieu an empty pen drive.”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5754795/New-Arsenal-boss-Unai-Emery-demanding-studious-brave.html#ixzz5GBixXsyY

  10. mysticleaves

    Really very happy with Emery to come in and coach us. Psg bossed us, Chelsea and Barca recently in European fixtures with style. If he gets his squad management right he could fix us a great deal. We are dead off the ball and that’s one thing he will improve in bounds. He’s a proper coach.

    PS: With that rumored 40m bid for Seri, we could use it to get Rabiot. He totally wants out of psg

  11. TonyD

    Sorry to see Cazorla leaving but the time was right and it’s best for Cazorla’s body.

    Great respect for him as a player and wish him success in whatever he does next.

  12. mysticleaves

    Was the change in plan why Henry was contacted? To assist Emery? Talks are on news that Emery was approached 2weeks back. Maybe Arteta was actually being approached as a number 2 (which I had thought a while ago and actually preferred. I also thought it would be Hassenhult based on his resignation). Maybe Viera was even approached as a number 2. Lol. Would really wish this saga ends with Emery. Am already worn out.

    Emery better than Arteta for the immediate job though. People want experience. We got it. 10years and 719 games more experienced than Lego hair. Everyone should be excited.

  13. mysticleaves

    Draxler and Rabiot would be great. Let go of anyone in the CM that wants out. Xhaka, Ramsey. If they do the solidarity thing sell all of them lol.

  14. tee

    jardim might be good but I don’t see him as the right candidate for us. even ranieri played one of the best counter attacking games in England to win the epl but non of the other epl teams looked at him when he was fired. the crop of players at Jardim’s disposal really helped him – not trying to run him down. though I don’t know much about his record but other than that breakthrough season, he has never been able to replicate anything meaningful unlike Emery whose CV speaks volume.

  15. Leedsgunner

    I’m not going to say I saw it coming because I didn’t… but what I did say a couple of days ago was a post about the importance of a track record and experience and I listed all the managerial honours of Emery, Ancelotti and Enrique together in very stark contrast to the absolute empty record of Arteta…

    This is a good choice, it will take the club forward.

  16. Leedsgunner

    If he keeps his usual assistant, Juan Carlos it will be a contrast to Bouldy. According to some his assistant is Kloppesque… 😉

    I’m hoping that El Señor will make the captaincy at Arsenal meaningful again. For a long time now Wenger has devalued this office by picking injury prone yes men. Of which Arteta was one.

    I’m so hoping this is it, a new day is breaking for the Arsenal.

    I can’t wait for the new season to begin!

  17. Guns of SF

    I hope he is gone useless scowling assistant. Emery needs his guy and a defensive person who is a genius

  18. Guns of SF

    Nzonzi is 30 but still good. How about reuniting with emery? Bring drax we are looking tight in midfield

  19. Zfree

    It’s a bit disengenius for Pedro to call emery a loser. This year they drew Real Madrid and didn’t have Neymar in the second leg. Last year yes they bottled it in rather shocking fashion but I also seem to recall some favorable refereeing to help Barcelona along in their comeback.

    Certainly a shit ton more trophies over the past 5 years than Wenger, and big trophies to boot

  20. Moray

    Let’s face it. We are a cup team these days and Emery is a guy that knows how to win them.

    The league is beyond us for the foreseeable future.

  21. Zfree

    Moray

    A bit sad, but the honest truth. I am filled with such higher hopes though heading into the summer than in other recent years, and think we all are. Cups, competing with the other top 6, hopefully top 4 which will be a dog fight. Yea I’m feeling positive as fuck

  22. Guns of SF

    Emery will have to know he needs to revamp our defense
    Now it’s time to work with Sven to see those names we can bring in.
    I think emery will enjoy his London stay much more than Paris. I would like to see a level of new high intensity!

  23. Sid

    Emery is a good manager and I am really happy if the news is true. Arteta should manage some other teams like Everton or Southampton and prove himself first. Btwn, If Arteta is such a good coach, why no team in the PL is interested in him?

  24. Moray

    Interesting background. I wonder what actually happened with Arteta? He was obviously a strong contender…did he reject us or did we think he wasn’t right? Was he being mooted for the assistant role? Maybe. Guardiola was keen to hire in Arteta as he was familiar with the Premiership so I suspect Emery would want some of the same.

  25. TonyD

    If John Cross is to be believed Bould has been told he can stay but not as assistant manager.

    Seems Cross believes Emery’s appointment has not been widely accepted:

    “Still, there was some scepticism among Arsenal fans about Arteta but, judging by social media, Emery actually looks to have got a mixed reaction among the supporters.”

    Some scepticism? It was pretty much most on this blog.

    Cross goes on to say:
    “However, the way Arteta fell out of the shortlist suggests there was a change of heart because the Spaniard interviewed exceptionally well and is known to have a strong relationship with Gazidis.

    Gazidis had championed Arteta and the process was to find the right man and recommend him to majority shareholder Stan Kroenke.

    After days of talks last week, Arteta was convinced he was getting the job and Manchester City were preparing for his departure.

    But having believed as late as Saturday the offer was coming, the trail went cold. Arsenal had even discussed a three year deal with a one year break.

    There is no suggestion that Arteta has doubts over transfers or the coaching set-up. He wanted the job too much. To say he is surprised and disappointed is a major understatement.”

    There were to many ‘What ifs’ for me with Arteta, and it seems after Gazidis testing the preverbal waters for fans’ reactions through the press and social media, Pedro being a culprit, Gazidis went for an option he can well and truly be protected from with the firing line being Emery, Sven, Raul and then himself.

    If this doesn’t work Gazidis can come out from behind his safe teflon rock knowing his paychecks are good for a few more years.

    The only questions I have now is when can Emery start, who is his assistant, and how much does he really have to spend?

    There are never guarantees in life, but I feel Emery is a better appointment than Arteta although I hope Arteta goes on to manage at a lower level to get real time coaching experience to prove he’s the real deal.

  26. Steveyg87

    2nd time Pedro has been taken for a ride by Ivan. Anyways hang in there lad its not all bad. Emery ticks alot of boxes and is still a bit left field I suppose? Doesnt except half baked performances and uses video analysis. What more do u want?

  27. Wallace

    Paulinho

    “Reaching his peak as a manager at 46, and very expressive and energetic on the touchline. Something we’ve been crying out for. ”

    respect your take on tactics and stuff, but lord this ‘energetic on the touchline’ stuff is ridiculous. the only people it impresses are those watching the game on tv. at the ground it’s just the comical guy trying to make himself heard over 60, 000 people.

  28. Guns of Hackney

    So, Emery. I was all set for Arteta and thought that was a potentially an exciting appointment. Likewise, Emery is also exciting.

    Now here’s the thing. When Arteta was ‘announced’ everyone went into meltdown explaining that he couldn’t be good because he had no experience. Fair enough. Emery has loads of experience so one would assume that based on Le Grove’s logic, he must be a sure fire, guaranteed hit. Let’s expect back to back league wins and a couple of champions leagues too.

    Yes? No? Exactly…we just don’t know, do we.

    The big issue once again looks like Arsenal can’t get their act together and do things the right way.

    Good luck to whoever gets the gig.

  29. Guns of SF

    Did Pedro have some sort of weird agenda with Ivan here? Wonder why he wa so Gung ho on arteter

    He’s catching lots of flak but it’s just weird . Normally Pete seems more measured

  30. Leedsgunner

    Apparently Emery had an absolute beast of an interview where he exceeded expectations on his knowledge on the Arsenal squad and what he wanted to do with them…

    Imagine that?

    An Arsenal manager who actually had a plan? Who actually prepared?

    Happy days!

  31. Leedsgunner

    If I was Ivan I would announce him along with a star signing like Draxler. That would be a statement of intent and excite everyone from the off.

    After all, remember people the transfer window is open, we need to get a move on

  32. Wallace

    Emery was one of the first to praise Wenger after it was announced this season would be his last. thought it was very generous, if a little unusual at the time.

  33. Leedsgunner

    With his record of bringing youth through, Reiss Nelson should be well stoked, he will get his chances aplenty under this new manager. Sign that new contract!

  34. Leedsgunner

    Ironic that as we hire Emery from PSG Wenger gets discounted from contention as director of football to PSG.

    That’s got to sting.

    Why did we tolerate Wenger for so long!?!?

  35. TitsMcGee

    Don’t know if it has to be Simeone(I’m not opposed) but i do think we need some grit and Arteta doesn’t strike me as a gritty guy.

  36. TitsMcGee

    We didn’t drop out the top 4 under Arteta.”

    Jesus Pedro. Arteta was the reason we didn’t drop out of the top 4? Or was it that Liverpool and Spurs hadn’t hit their stride yet?

    Add two competent coaches to two ambitious clubs and we dropped 2 spots in the EPL table. Simple as. Liverpool and Spurs were non-factors/non-threats to us for years until Pochettino and Klopp.

  37. Leedsgunner

    If he has experience in dealing with Neymar’s ego he will no problem getting to grips with Özil.

  38. Graham62

    Leedsgunner

    “Why did we tolerate Wenger for so long?”

    I think we all know why.

    It was because of the “lads”.

    It’s amazing that the “never accept responsibility for anything supporters” who sat and accepted things for so long, are sort of confused by the whole process.

    Wenger is history.

    Get over it folks, he ain’t coming back.

  39. TitsMcGee

    I’m happy with Emeri. Not my first choice but somebody that strikes me he can get what he wants out of what he has.

  40. GoonerDNA

    Why do I feel like Ivan used Le grove to test fan reaction to Arteta……anyway I’m behind Emery we’re more similar to Seville than PSG

  41. GoonerDNA

    I am starting to worry about Sven Raul and Ivan tho and the power dynamic they’ve created which I feel will deter a lot of good managers

  42. TitsMcGee

    respect your take on tactics and stuff, but lord this ‘energetic on the touchline’ stuff is ridiculous. the only people it impresses are those watching the game on tv. at the ground it’s just the comical guy trying to make himself heard over 60, 000 people.”

    If Wenger was jumping up and down on the sideline you’d be wetting yourself. Stay consistent.

  43. GoonerDNA

    What I don’t think Pedro understands is the power dynamic isn’t the same at Dortmund and other top European clubs it’s alot more MSL style than anything else.

  44. Graham62

    If any of you were in a high profile position within the game, would you consider hiring Wenger?

    Of course you wouldn’t.

  45. GoonerDNA

    Seems like Ivan Raul and Sven don’t give a fuck who we hire as long as they tow the club policies and shut the fuck up.

  46. Steveyg87

    “Why do I feel like Ivan used Le grove to test fan reaction to Arteta……anyway I’m behind Emery we’re more similar to Seville than PSG”

    This is exactly what happened, just hope he gets on board with the new manager though!

  47. TitsMcGee

    Neither had the financial restrictions Emery is going to have, so maybe he’ll need longer. Although now it’s time for Sven & Raul to really show why Gazidis hired them.”

    Wenger spent a shed-load of cash the last few years. If they match that expenditure we can more than be competitive.

  48. Steveyg87

    “Seems like Ivan Raul and Sven don’t give a fuck who we hire as long as they tow the club policies and shut the fuck up.”

    They have been doing exactly what we have been crying out for, for years.. Taking charge and turning this sh!tshow on its head.

  49. Steveyg87

    The same people that said Arteta was dead on to sign are the same people that are speaking of small budgets. So, take it with a pinch of salt

  50. Jeff

    We discovered in the end that it wasn’t actually the lack of spending that was causing the problem. It turned out that thrift was also a symptom and not a cause. It took the board 15 years of failure to realise it. Better late than never but boy are they thick. One hopes they’re catching up now………..one hopes.

  51. Wallace

    tits

    “If Wenger was jumping up and down on the sideline you’d be wetting yourself. Stay consistent.”

    nah man, it’s f*ckin’ ridiculous. anyone who thinks an energetic touchline manner is an important requirement for a top coach is an idiot.

  52. Wallace

    GoonerDNA

    “Why do I feel like Ivan used Le grove to test fan reaction to Arteta…”

    not saying the pr people woukldn’t mind keeping the bigger bloggers onside, but to suggest they actually give a shit what we’re moaning about is a bit of a reach.

  53. TitsMcGee

    We discovered in the end that it wasn’t actually the lack of spending that was causing the problem. It turned out that thrift was also a symptom and not a cause. It took the board 15 years of failure to realise it. Better late than never but boy are they thick. One hopes they’re catching up now………..one hopes.”

    Yep. Wenger didn’t spend because he didn’t have to. He knew that there was no competition to knock him out of top 4 so he rolled the dice many a summer TW.

    Then…..

    Liverpool hired Klopp.
    City hired Pep.
    Spurs hired Pochettino.
    UTD hired Mourinhno.

    It’s no coincidence that as competition increased so did Wenger’s spending. Didn’t help him though because he spent so many years on easy street that he couldn’t just flip a switch and actually compete anymore.

  54. Guns of Hackney

    Our CEO might be a dick of catastrophic proportions but he isn’t looking at blogs to decide what to do next. Sheesh.

    Let’s hope the new manager knows how to say “fuck off you pile of shit” in English.

    Neymar to Iwobi. Damn.
    Mbappr to Welbeck. Jesus.
    Cavani to Elneny.

    Good luck.

  55. Pierre

    That’s the end of Le Grove as we know it.

    Le Grove has always thrived on a difference of opinion, to me it looks like 95% are behind the new appointment…

  56. Redtruth

    It’s a step down from PSG, but hey, maybe Emery can inject some life into the Arsenal corpse.

    Bamford

    How can you say it’s a good appointment after you being so keen on the Wenger clone lol

  57. OleGunner

    Pedro,

    Your post today should not be full of moaning.
    You were on a one man crusade to shove Arteta down our throats for a week and were full on shutupandsupportthelads.

    I hope you extend the same philosophy to Emery 😉

  58. Jeff

    Tits,

    That’s correct. Our points totals over the last 10 years haven’t really moved. We as a club were treading water year after year and so long as 70 points and fourth place were intact, so was Wenger’s position. But as you say, it all changed when others caught up. It couldn’t have been more obvious that the only way for us was down and in the end that’s what happened. But of course we’ve all been through this so many times over many years of “rinse and repeat”, “ground-hod day”, “judge me in May” etc. that most of us became fatigued and indifferent.

    In the end I think even the AKBs were inwardly admitting to themselves that the end was nigh and the horse they had been flogging was in fact dead. So dead, that only it’s bear bones and teeth were on show. LOL, As I say, better late than never.

  59. Steveyg87

    Glad to see you approve of the soon to be new manager Red.

    Should we be expecting more optimistic posts from yourself? Or are the classic one liners still the order of the day?

  60. Guns of Brixton

    WTF is happening here

    We are all actually agreeing here??!!

    Am I the only one who reads the memo in the morning?
    Disagree with everything and send personal insults to eachother

    C’mon guys dont lose the plot now!!
    :) :) loool

  61. Gooner63

    WTF is happening here We are all actually agreeing here??!!Am I the only one who reads the memo in the morning?
    Disagree with everything and send personal insults to eachother

    dont worry, normal service will be resumed when we make a bid for jonny evans

  62. tee

    May 22, 2018 06:51:39
    Ironic that as we hire Emery from PSG Wenger gets discounted from contention as director of football to PSG.
    That’s got to sting.
    Why did we tolerate Wenger for so long!?!?

    idiotic to say the least. Wenger didn’t apply for director of football. psg chairman was only answering questions thrown at him and he categorically said their director of football is performing, meaning there is no need to replace him. if psg decide it’s time up for their present director of football then Wenger will absolutely be approached – fact. tides are changing but children of hates still find a way of dragging Wenger into their miserable showcase. He is gone and gone for good.

  63. Gooner63

    For those of you asking about assistant manager, i expect it will be Juan Carlos Carcedo

    He has been assistant to Emery at valencia, seville and psg

  64. Ishola70

    Sanmi
    “So have been watching a lot of videos on emery’s game tactics, my conclusion is:
    1. Xhaka is going to be central to his plan”

    “He likes his midfield base being a ball sprayer especially to wings, to target his pacy wingers when the midfield base and one of the other 2 CMs have drawn out opponents out of shape. Xhaka is the only one with that quality In our team.”

    Loving his appointment already.

    Bamford your thoughts please lol

  65. China

    Time will tell how good (or not) emery will be for us.

    One thing is absolutely true to me personally, is that he is absolutely a smarter choice than rolling the dice on arteta.

    We are not rolling from a position of strength. If arteta failed badly we’d not have limitless pockets to necessarily bail the club out of trouble in the short term.

    Arteta might be the bees knees but he’s an enormous gamble and with emery we at least have a solid choice. Someone with some success, experience and useful ingredients. Whether emery works out well or not, at least on paper he was a reasonable choice and for that I am FUCKING GRATEFUL!

  66. China

    We don’t really have any pacy wingers though. In fact we don’t have any genuine wingers at all lol

    We’ll see what emery can/will do about this!

  67. China

    Also a fundamental reason not to pick arteta was the fans tbh

    We’ve had such a divided fan base for years and years. Fans fighting fans. Hate aggression and the rest.

    Considering how arteta is a very polarizing choice, if he didn’t do really well the fans would have their knives out very quickly.

    We seriously can’t be put in this position again where fans are fighting fans over club mismanagement. A happy and supportive fan base will drive a team forwards and help them pick up more points, especially at home. At this fragile time, the club *desperately* needs all the fans on the same page.

    He wasn’t many peoples first choice, but emery is a solid choice and I don’t think many will be angry with this choice unlike arteta

  68. Gooner63

    Hoping Emery will get rid of welbeck and bring in either draxler or malcom

    His style of play will also call for a DM – so finally we may get one

    can see us lining up with

    new keeper
    hector, new cb, new cb, monreal
    new DM, xhaka, ozil/mikki
    new winger, laca, auba

    can see at least ospina, mustafi, koz/holding, ramsey, welbeck, iwobi being sold this summer

  69. Leftsidesanch

    Cech being given the No.1 shirt does worry. Surely Emery will want to strengthen in that area?

  70. Ishola70

    Very, very surprised.

    Never saw him as an Arsenal manager.

    It’s Dickie boy.

    As he is appointed some pluses about him = I like his past management profile and not anything to do with Sevilla. I like the fact that he started management from grass roots and worked his way up before his first stint at Sevilla. Another plus is that he will be much more focused on the opposition than Wenger was but saying that it’s all well and good but he needs the personnel and set-up to make this positive factor of his to bear real dividends.

    Negatives =

    Worrying that there has been more than one occasion where it has been reported that players under him have a lack of respect. This was reported when he was at PSG and his later time at Sevilla.

    Just personal opinion but there seems something about the man where a real fvck up could happen. I could see this man in tragic mode.

    Think the guy has a ceiling and he has already achieved this with winning Europa Leagues. Winning the French League with PSG is akin to winning a Europa League. That fans are excited or lauding his appointment may say something about the ambitions of the fans themselves.

    A very big factor in his appointment was his willingness to work under a constrained budget. Not his fault of course but unfortunate factor to be hired.

    Generally like Arteta he will be judged on what he does in the transfer window. This team and certain players are not good enough regardless of a new manager. A few need to be culled.

    And Gazidis lied again with his pronouncement that the appointment would be “brave and bold” . Nothing brave and bold about this appointment. They have gone for the easy option but then again was not interested in Arteta.

    I like the fact that this manager is not “in-house” and it is a clean break from Mr Wenger. Maybe Emirates Stroller is not of the same opinion lol.

    All I can say at this point is that his appointment is more interesting than Arteta. More interesting could mean looking with fear at the goings on from behind a sofa but we shall see.

  71. shaun ellis

    thank the lord for that with some trying to convince of the merits of Arteta …no3 at city to take over as arsenal manager ……………the arsenal fan base really is a shocker .Arteta has zero experience at any level as a manager and two years as a coach and apparently not number 2 at city and people here are saying it’s the same as Pep and the same as Zidan so why not ………no wonder we had to put up with that fraud for so long…..Arteta go manage Brighton or Charlton for a couple of years and lets see what your coaching and techniques are about …….but oh no arsenal fans are like why not…………………he has learnt from Pep and these mofo’s are serious as well

  72. Emiratesstroller

    I don’t think that giving Cech number one shirt means that Arsenal are not
    recruiting a first choice goalkeeper this summer.

    Cech was always going to stay at Arsenal next season, because he has one more year on contract and has absolutely no resale value at age of 36.

    Since Ospina does not have first string potential my guess is that he will leave the club this summer and be replaced most probably by Leno.

  73. shaun ellis

    “All I can say at this point is that his appointment is more interesting than Arteta. More interesting could mean looking with fear at the goings on from behind a sofa but we shall see.”

    Optimistic arsenal fans as ever

    ‘I’m not the kind of coach who says: “Let’s do a few piggy in the middle exercises and get home for lunch,”‘

    we sure as hell no this was a perfect wenger training session lol……………………………..lol

    and Hackney gun is right in some respects we are not in a position to offer the top top end coach’s a position as the board have committed to a structure that gives them much more control after le fraud who can blame them but at the same time a coach like Allegri will not accept the restrictions being offered as he will know as we all do arsenal are not gonna win big unless they completely re-structure the team which means 200 mill + .So we as arsenal fans should no we are looking at much improved domestic form and champions league footie as our goals for the next two or three seasons .much better defensive performances and a team that looks like it is prepared and actually gives a fuck would all be massive plus’s for me

  74. shaun ellis

    Chech (Chelsea number 2 four years ago)should play out his last season at arsenal as number two if he has any arguments just play back some of those near post goals …Ospina ..same as Arteta Brighton or Palace but not Arsenal

  75. salparadisenyc

    I do recall watching Emery put Klopp over the barrel in his last Europa league win, after going down by 1 at the half. There is that.

    Curious to see how ruthless he goes with current squad. Question marks over back 5, Xhaka, Welbz. Think Ramsay now stays on, where as with Arteta he’d of been gone.