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TheBayingMob's avatar

I wouldn't have anything to do with Raphinha, fuck that c*** and their dreams to play for one of the cheatiest and shittiest clubs in the world, let him rot in the Barca reserves ...

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Barkath's avatar

Brilliant analysis & an even better written post Pedro!

Le-Grove content is top notch! Keep it up!

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Nigel Tufnel's avatar

Jeff:

"why he(Raya) conceded all the goals last season with a brilliant defence in front of him"

Bright guy alert.

He conceded all the goals?

Who else was going to concede goals, the CF? Saka?

The Emi Martinez stat I provided was clearly labeled as CLAIMS by keepers.

That's just one stat. Any time I mention it I make it clear it's about claiming crosses, high balls.

Raya is top in Europe by a wide margin. Martinez is 50% below, which is a lot.

It seems you don't know what claims refers to. That's your problem, not mine or Rayas.

Emi is a great keeper, but it's a fact he will never play for a team like this Arsenal, or Pep Guardiola, or a Klopp level manager.

They know the clear limitations of what he can do with his feet, so he has to shine playing for teams aiming for top 4, secondary domestic trophies or international tournaments.

He's still great, but your understanding of what top modern teams need at the back is like Neanderthals trying to work a piece of modern technology. Embarrassing really.

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jeff's avatar

Imbecilic comment as usual from the Arteta arsel licker. You're such a waste of space as trying to knock some sense into you is like asking Boris Johnson to tell the truth- impossible. Ignoramuses like you will troll out stats to try and prove your case. So our keeper with the appropriately oversized clown gloves claims some crosses and occasionally finds a player with a long kick- brilliant analysis!! What about saving goals? No, not that's not a requirement for fools like you. You're probably one of those prats who claimed Denilson was the best midfielder in the Premiership based on the number of passes he made? Each one of them one metre max......... You really are an embarrassment. Best to keep quiet and stop posting, utterly clueless.

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jeff's avatar

He is not an upgrade, He's the same as Ramsdale, if not worse.Raya won us one game last season- Porto. The rest of the season he was responsible for at least 8 goals which should not have been conceded ( Chelsea, Luton, Spurs, etc), whereas Rqamsdale was responsible for 4 ot 5 in the full season before he was replaced. The agenda that everything Arteta does is right is ridiculous, just like that weirdo Nigel Tufnel's extensive research on Merino whom no-one had heard of before the Euros,

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Northbanker's avatar

He doesn’t flap like Ramsdale, commands the box much better and his distribution is better. The only edge Ram has is a penchant for the odd spectacular save. No question therefore that Raya is a significant upgrade. There is no agenda other than the belief that Arteta is getting a lot more right than wrong.

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Le Groove (not Pedro)'s avatar

This was settled way back. Raya is the superior keeper. There is no point arguing with people that refuse to accept it.

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Fiachra's avatar

Raya wins the no 1 spot because he catches everything which speeds up the counter.

Rams makes more than the odd spectacular, it's like one every game. Raya has a vastly superior defence in front of him which, given Ramsdale's admission for switching off in games, might actually work against him, meaning he might be better at a club with plenty of goalmouuth action than a Bank of England type.

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jeff's avatar

You really need to watch the games from last season before making silly comments like this. Raya was crap in the first half of the City home game and could have conceded three. He was at fault for the first goals in both the Spurs games. Why did Raya "flap" against Newcastle away? Why did he give away the goal against Lens? The pathetic performance away at Luton? The "flap" away at Chelsea? The positioning in the last minute loss at Porto? Charging out at home v Bayern cost us the goal? Never communicates to his defenders as Saliba is always asking him to do. A"significant upgrade?!" No, Arteta knows everything. The manager who preferred Leno to Martinez, then bought Ramsdale and now listens to that idiot keeper coach and recruits Raya who is average. "Distribution better!" I prefer keepers to keep shots out and keep a better position.

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Northbanker's avatar

I watched every game thanks some at Emirates and rest on RC or streamed, and have done every season. Get your head out of your arse before you write

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jeff's avatar

Then you're in denial if you didn't see all the Spanish clown's mistakes which led to goals which I have outlined before on a couple of posts. And don't tell me how to post, northbanker- is that rhyming slang for what you are? You and the execrable Tufnel really are a couple of weirdos- zilch football knowledge, let alone any observational skills. Raya "not an upgrade on Ramsdale" as we were sold and is worse. Go on, tell me he's better than Martinez, As for "out of your arse"- about time you got your head out of Arteta's.

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Nigel Tufnel's avatar

Yeah, He also calms our defenders and midfield, and plays higher to help in build up, the way Arteta had asked Ramsdale to, but Aaron wasn't comfortable with that.

For the doubters- Raya claims 50% more (!) than Emi Martinez, who is the next best in all of Europe.

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jeff's avatar

I think you also made the ridiculous comment some weeks ago that Raya was a better keeper than Martinez. Enough said! For all the lovers of Raya,

provide an answer to why he conceded all the goals last season with a brilliant defence in front of him. Ramsdale had that cripple Holding causing mayhem in our defence when he made the errors at the end of the previous season.Arteta is now on his 4th keeper in four years. We'll soon find out next season when Raya screws up, he'll be looking for yet another keeper.

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Mystic Leaves's avatar

Rich (and anybody else), howdy! Take a pick between Sane and Chiesa. If the 2 became available at a cut price (irrespective of wage) would you bite, considering their skill level and ability to impact performances?

Also Chiesa seem to be injured a bit. Do you have an opinion on this? Should we steer clear?

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Dissenter's avatar

Chiesa is a free transfer but looks like one that can be shifted to the Saudi lottery if it doesn’t work out.

He will need a hefty transfer fee though and big wages

For me, it’s always hard to come back to the same league you left- I wouldn’t touch Sane, he’s also individualistic and selfish. He will need big wages and Bayern will want a fee that matches the reputation.

Pedro Neto is the one I would go for, even when injuries are considered. He’s on about 50k weekly at wolves so doubling his wages is enough to convince him.

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Le Groove (not Pedro)'s avatar

I’d absolutely take Sane. Whether he’d accept the pay-cut and the role we’d have for him is another question.

Chiesa is a no-go for me. We need to move out players with unreliability / injury issues, not add them. We’ve been held back by this sort of thing, it would be taking a step backwards. Pedro Neto would be incredible if he stayed fit, but we can’t make gambles like that.

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Mystic Leaves's avatar

@all. I look at Sane's age and all he's achieved and I doubt he would have the hunger to do a lot for a team like Arsenal (remember he already conquered England with City). His quality has never been the problem, maybe the hunger.

For Chiesa, that's where I'm leaning towards. Apart from his availability issues, he's electric. I think he'd come on big wages and could bench either Saka or Martinelli permanently if he stays fit. So maybe Art wouldn't want that.

Pedro Neto, apart from availablity issues is perfect. Wolves might want close to 50m and I wonder if it isn't too much for a crock

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Le Groove (not Pedro)'s avatar

Chiesa bench Saka? C’mon man. There are maybe (generously) 5 players in the world that could bench Saka. Chiesa is not one of them

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Le Groove (not Pedro)'s avatar

If we’re accepting chequered injury history then it would be mad to double that gamble on someone unproven in the PL and without any physicality that would suggest an easier transition (e.g. Calafiori). If we’re gambling then it should be Neto. And we shouldn’t be gambling, in my opinion we shouldn’t go after Neto.

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Mystic Leaves's avatar

Guimares to Arsenal

Osimhen to Arsenal

All gathering steam. If we negotiate wel, 150m GBP that will surely take us to the title. Bring it on!

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Nigel Tufnel's avatar

🤡

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Northbanker's avatar

Guimares has stated he’s happy at Newcastle. Can’t see us signing him as well as Merino.

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Mystic Leaves's avatar

I hear what you saying but his statement means nothing except that he won't force a move out. He also said he wants to compete in the UCL and win titles.

Only Merino won't be enough if we really want to have a go at the title

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EMIRATESSTROLLER's avatar

Arsenal are not recruiting Guimaraes in this transfer window. All the evidence is that we are recruiting Merino in midfield. He is a much cheaper option.

Arteta and Edu suggested at the end of last season that we would be exercising

our option to buy Raya and were also in market for a defender, midfielder and forward.

So there is still a forward to buy. However, I don't see Arsenal buying Osimhen.

Firstly Napoli are not going to sell him cheap. Second his agent will demand silly

money and last his wages will also be ridiculous.

It is still unclear whether Havertz will play in attack or midfield. That decision may

well determine whether we buy a first string centre forward or a bench player.

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Bob's avatar

I'm sure you're right about Guimares but if he was the first choice of Arteta and Edu, before pressing the button on Merino, it was worth giving Newcastle a final opportunity to sell to us.

By buying Merino, it will give Arsenal more of a budget for the final transfers in.

Osimhen feels like a long shot, particularly as we're probably having to compete with PSG and to deal with the Napoli owner! That said, as Pedro suggests, it could be about being patient, with the knowledge that most of our potential targets would be more than happy to join us. Not many clubs have cash. Rodrigo, Rafinha, Sane would all add to our attacking threat, all would be affordable.

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Mystic Leaves's avatar

Agreed Bob. Guess we just have to wait this window out and see who we can get. I'm optimistic of a good window

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Nigel Tufnel's avatar

https://x.com/billycarpy/status/1819674736927887436?t=a8i-rC0RZwkwQShu19K2Yg&s=19

All you could ever want to know about Merino.

Apologies if the deal falls through.

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aaron's avatar

Nice find!

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Kpankulu's avatar

There is under a month left for the transfer window to run its course. There is no reason that teams that are quiet now may not take a second look at Arsenal players towards the end of the window when they are clear about their needs. Fans are caught up in the here and now.

Also, some of the people slamming Arsenal for taking a tough stance on Nketiah while we are halfway through the window will be the same sorry folks slamming the club if Nketiah was let go for a pittance or less than his worth.

Remember the blah-blah-blah about Toney to Tottenham? Shit happens. His replacement is out for the rest of the year. Still think Toney is going anywhere? Anything can happen this month - just go with the flow.

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izzo's avatar

I must be in the minority, because I don't care how much Eddie fetches. I would take 10 mill and be done with it. Not my money, though. As long as he's gone, that's all I care about.

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Bob's avatar

I get it about 'Not my money' but the bigger the sales, the more money we can spend to improve our squad.

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Nigel Tufnel's avatar

Chelsea need a keeper.

So do United, though they're both in denial it seems.

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Mike Taylor's avatar

Nigel Chelsea signed a keeper on 1/8 never heard of him but he was number 1 at Villa Real

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Dissenter's avatar

They are not in denial Nigel

Mist neutral fans don’t rate Ramsdale

Why should they, when his own manager doesn’t trust him to share minutes with Raya, who’s by no means world class.

The two games he was forced to play against Brentford because Raya was loan tied, he was dreadful.

Sorry, There are better options than Ramsdale for anyone looking for a keeper.

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Bob's avatar

'Mist neutral fans don’t rate Ramsdale' - source?

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Nigel Tufnel's avatar

Can't agree much on that. He's a confidence player, much better stopper and distributor than both those keepers for example.

Wasn't he voted premier league PFA keeper of the year, only one year ago?

I know he looked bad in at least one of the Brentford starts, but we know how important confidence and continuity is for any keeper... especially Ramsdale, a sensitive guy who's used to starting at all levels.

Raya is clearly better for us, so I'm happy.

I'm still saying to keep Ramsdale as a great backup, unless we get a serious offer. 30m+.

Loaning him doesn't work either.

I trust he'd have a great season on loan, but we'd have to buy a good replacement.

If he returns in a year teams would squeeze the hell out of us because they know we have 3 quality keepers.

And what better options are out there than an England international

and PFA keeper of the season for the second place team behind Man Cheaty?

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Mystic Leaves's avatar

Such high standards you have for Rams. You should be pining for him to play for us then.

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Northbanker's avatar

He’s already stated that Raya is better! We had a good goalkeeper in Ramsdale and we upgraded. As we seek to get better still those tough decisions wil be made. It doesn’t stop Ramsdale being an upgrade on the likes of Onana.

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Habesha Gooner's avatar

Lequipe reporting that Marseille haven't left the table in negotiations for Nketiah. If this works and Edu gets more money, then he would have sold masterfully.

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Nigel Tufnel's avatar

I would chain them to the negotiating table and beg for a £1 add on if Eddie gets 1 appearance. Unless we have interest from inside England, we can't use Eddie anymore.

We've outgrown his game.

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Nigel Tufnel's avatar

Why would Man City give a good player (Alvarez) to their main rival? A team that's almost equal to them?

When they could send him anywhere else in the world.

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izzo's avatar

By your logic, they were devastated, selling us two players that haven't really taken us to the promised land. Both crocks, and we're all in agreement to be rid of them for better players.

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Tom Wojtyga's avatar

They sold two players who were surplus to requirements to a side that finished in 5th and 24 points adrift in the league.

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Northbanker's avatar

Yeah I’m struggling to believe this too. No way City would sell to us now

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izzo's avatar

Weird I don't think Manchester City need to win the league again. I think their focus will be CL. They will sell to whoever the player decides to go to.

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Tom Wojtyga's avatar

Pep doesn’t play in any league for second places, and for a club like City the CL doesn’t really begin until the QFs.

Surely you aren’t suggesting he’s going to play his second stringers 2/3 of the season.

But then again maybe you are considering you said City were done without Gundogan, Mahrez, and aging KDB.

How did that work out?

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izzo's avatar

Nobody said anything about him playing second string players. I'm alluding to us beating them to the title this time around.

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Pedro's avatar

No politics

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Tom Wojtyga's avatar

Sooo rude, Pedro, it must’ve taken Rich half an hour to compose his end of times diatribe, and you just erased it.

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Tom Wojtyga's avatar

Hey, don’t take it out on me, I quite enjoyed it.

Pedro is the villain here.

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EMIRATESSTROLLER's avatar

I don't talk normally politics on this site.

However, this country has got itself into a complete mess

when it comes to immigration.

Immigration is completely out of control and is now destabilising this country.

The far right have reared their ugly head when this subject is discussed, but we have also a "muslim problem" as well. According to 1953 census there were

just 21,000 muslims registered in this country. Today it

has risen to 4 million.

Most ethnic minority groups were in past fairly insignificant percentages of the general population. That

is certainly no longer the case and is having a serious

destabilising effect on the country.

When we discuss international courts whether European

Court of Justice or the International Court of Justice [UN]

most of the judges are lacking in impartiality. They are

political appointments.

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Mike Taylor's avatar

100% ES.

The trouble is that Starmer like so many from the left side of politics have to a degree done nothing to address or even suggest ways to approach matters.

It’s all well and good to disagree with other parties policies but they, Labour have made a major mistake just trashing everything that the Tories tried and as for just binning the Rwanda approach before any other alternative deterrent was in place particularly as the bulk of the finances were already spent and indeed the legal challenges appeared to have been by and large addressed was folly even if the policy was questionable there appeared to be evidence ( that certainly was the claim) that it was reducing the number of crossings

Labour now have to address the tide of right wing concerns( if that’s the right word) . If the weather gets warmer expect far more demonstrations/ riots because many of those that feel their views are being ignored particularly in the bigger Cities will unfortunately lead to more riots .

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Ryan's avatar

Don’t think you can really credit the tidies with having done much. Rwanda was something, yes, but they sat on this problem for the entirety of the last decade.

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Ryan's avatar

As someone with a foreign spouse the system is very disheartening

If I want to move to the UK with my wife (Chinese) I have the following options:

1) have £62500 savings frozen in a bank account for 6 months, then apply for a 2.5 year spouse visa and hope she gets it

2) I go back to the UK alone and need to work for 6 months before applying for my wife’s spouse visa which will also take months

Meanwhile anyone who is willing to make a dangerous boat crossing from Calais or enter or any other visa can just claim asylum and have tax payers pay for their hotel and food etc. sorry, Albania is not a war torn country.

So basically if I as a 34 year old Brit with a British son but foreign spouse can’t move back without massive time and financial outlay at best or long distance living for most of a year at worst why can an Albanian claim asylum and get British gov support?

Someone tell me how this is fair.

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Jamie's avatar

Not even close to being accurate. Speak to an immigration lawyer. A real one. As long as you earn at least some small salary like £35k a year, you can sponsor your foreign wife.

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Ryan's avatar

I think it’s wrong to make that a starmer issue tho

The tories were in power for over a decade. If the system has been shit for all this time (and getting worse) not sure how starmer is the one to blame - even if he’s not helping make it better

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TheLegendaryDB10's avatar

Jesus is in the last chance saloon this season and he knows it.

The fact that he is looking sharper and got his shit together in pre-season points to this.

Now whether he can convert this into actually scoring goals is a different story.

I genuinely hope he does. Otherwise he must be 100% sold ASAP as he would have wasted our time more than anything else.

And please someone talk to him so that he stops that "too quick to fall down" stick that he pulls off all the time. It works at Cheaty but not with The Arsenal. We don't pay off refs. He really needs to cut that crap out.

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Mystic Leaves's avatar

Jesus should be booted out of the saloon. Frankly

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TheLegendaryDB10's avatar

I agree with you. Sesko is his replacement. He will cost a little more next season. But that is not a problem as he will carry on being coached and have 100% game time with RB Leipzig next season which is 100% what he needs right now.

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Mystic Leaves's avatar

I'd rather actually play Eddie than Jesus at this point. I still want us to take what OM are offering and run but in the case he's not sold, I'd rather Eddie through the middle than Jesus. There's always going to be that little question mark about his abilities. Just maybe he could go off when given the trust and support. With Jesus you already know what he's giving and it's not good enough

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Fiachra's avatar

I'd rather play Stina than Eddie sometimes

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izzo's avatar

He didn't do enough when Jesus got injured. He already had his chances and didn't impress. A striker needs to be taking chances, especially against strong teams, and he fails every time. He's 25 years old. Not some kid. It's time for him to go.

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Mystic Leaves's avatar

Edu seems to disagree with you. I wat him gone too. But will play him over Jesus as striker.

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izzo's avatar

I'd rather play Havertz than them. I'd rather move Martinelli into that position than them. Eddie must go. I am not worried about Jesus. He'll get injured and won't take over from Havertz. He should at least enjoy his last season deputizing for Havertz and Saka.

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Mystic Leaves's avatar

Haha. Funny take but Yea Kai is here already. You probably know my stance on him but pretty sure if we don't sign a new striker, he's no 1. All that chatter about Eddie and Jesus was about no 2 anyways.

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izzo's avatar

We're after Julian Alvarez. Much better than having Jesus and Eddie as striking options. He will thrive here.

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Kpankulu's avatar

Let's not bother talking about someone who will not join this club this summer. Arsenal has to offload players, and 115 FC will not sell the player to the club.

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LSausage's avatar

Yeah, I have a feeling that this will be our move in the final week of the window unless he’s already been sold to one of the Spanish clubs. FWIW, I think he’d be brilliant in our team. Way too good to warm the bench at City.

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Tom Wojtyga's avatar

Warm bench at City?

Alvarez clocked 3,481 minutes for them last season.

Besides,City will never sell another player to us so long we are breathing down their necks.

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LSausage's avatar

He got a decent amount of minutes but you have to look at the type of minutes too. I can understand that someone of his quality isn’t happy about being used when Haaland needs a rest or played out of position when he doesn’t. He has what it takes to be the starting striker anywhere except City or Bayern.

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Mystic Leaves's avatar

Alvarez is a massive player. If we get him, he will elevate our front line and will deliver the goods

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Mystic Leaves's avatar

If we can get Latauro, the better

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Habesha Gooner's avatar

Unlike many on here, I actually think we have more of a problem in midfield than in in attacking areas. Partey isn't reliable, and now looks like he has lost the Athletic ability despite being a superb player with the ball at his feet.

Jorginho is great as an option. And he is valuable for games we can run. But I wouldn't trust him in a game where we have opponents that are even with us.

The less said about Vieira the better. I think Nwaneri will overtake him this coming season.

Odegaard and Rice are our ever reliable and dependable players. We need two more in there. And we need to phase out Partey. It has looked like we will sign Merino. And we need that #6 with that. Get a Winger as well and may be a GK if Ramsdale leaves. I genuinely believe we are 3 to 4 quality players away from fighting on all fronts.

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Mystic Leaves's avatar

We need work in the middle and in the forward positions. It's always been known since last season. If we can let's fix the 2, and we can.

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izzo's avatar

Honestly, I don't want us to fight on all fronts. The focus should be to win the PL and get close in the CL; everything else should take the back seat and play the bench and kids in those games.

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Habesha Gooner's avatar

Nope. That isn't what top teams do. They fight on every front. There is a reason pep has up the most domestic trophies since he has been here. Winning builds a winning culture.

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izzo's avatar

You realize they're called cheaty for a reason. Of course, he gazumped all the trophies. That has nothing to do with being a "top team." Top teams win the "major trophies.". No one blinks an eye at the lesser trophies. We've already won those anyway. I don't want to see first-teamers playing the Carabao Cup and starting FA Cup matches. You're just asking for injuries to already overplayed players like Rice, Saka, Saliba, and Big Gab. PL CL and fuck the rest. Arteta doesn't rotate, but if he's doing a slight u-turn on that, he'd better focus his energies on the two that matter most after missing out twice in a row by a couple points.

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Kpankulu's avatar

For this season especially, I agree.

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izzo's avatar

Aren't we signing Merino? You're not getting your wish for more players.

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Habesha Gooner's avatar

I want Merino and another. I doubt we will get the other. But it will be a mistake because relying on Partey will be a problem in some part of the season.

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