I support Edu and the clubs business, but I think Sociedad is playing us like a violin.
They have us bidding 30m for a 28yr old with a year left on his contract, when we all know they can't afford to let him walk for free in a year. No way.
They can't throw away 18 - 25m. The player and his agent should be stronger for the move. Him saying he doesn't mind staying is making it harder on us.
... and if Eddie isn't offloaded, we have failed because he doesn't fit in our team anymore. I would have taken 20m for him just to be over it. Loan him out if necessary because at least then he can prove his value. I don't want him taking up a bench spot from Nwaneri, Nelson, even Vieira who can create a goal out of nothing.
Incredible how many people are losing their shit over Eddies eventual fee. He will go for whatever the eventual auction value ends up at. He wasn’t good enough for us but will succeed at a smaller club. Wish him well and stop looking for blame as if a major catastrophe was occurring
On the contrary, it's arteta that is making their jobs hard for them. When you have a player who you truly don't trust but pretend to value them and ask Edu to offer them hefty contracts. Few weeks down the line, you confine them almost permanently on the bench, run down their values almost to nothing, then turn to Edu to sell them so as to afford some shiny new players. People are so afraid of arteta that he is never wrong. It is Edu or the players always. How easy do you think edu's job would have been if he was working with klopp or pep?
"When you have a player who you truly don't trust but pretend to value them "
Arteta has to talk them up though, to protect their values. His best speech about the player's qualities is when he doesn't bring them when the game is on the line. Everything else is PR fluff
He sanctioned the players exit, that speaks volumes. That is where his work ends. He has NOTHING to do with the outgoing negotiations. For incoming negotiations, his job is to make himself available to the player's questions about what their role is, he still doesn't negotiate contracts.
He has everything do do with it. How easy would it have been for Edu to sell Ramsdale last season if arteta has opened up to him that he's not in his plan and not bother extending his contract thereby taking his wage to 120k. But no arteta's right and Edu is at fault. Now who is going to take a goalkeeper whose confidence is in tatters? Who is going to buy a striker who is not trusted by his manager to start in meaningless games? who is going to market a winger who sits on the bench while a waste of space like Vieira plays in his position?
Edu is doing a thankless job at arsenal. He's done his best helping arteta sign as many players as possible that he requested. He has done well to convince as many as possible players arteta want him to extend their contracts. What else do you want from him? He is expected to market redundant players whose values have been completely eroded by being constantly ignored and left rotten on the bench. And worse still, he is expected to sell for some insane amount.
I was on record as wanting to take the offer we had...and I worry we may not get a good fee for Eddie, or be stuck with him, and losing value.. but I don't think we are in as bad a situation overall as some gooners fear.
This Eddie situation is not great for a player we don't use much at all. But we're not in dire straits financially as some fear.
I must have finally matured slightly as the transfer window being quiet hasn’t bothered me whatsoever. I am just looking forward to the actual football starting again.
With regard to Nketiah, if there are no takers then I’ve got no issue with him staying as back up or 2nd back up. His wages can’t be changed so no use whinging about that. He has proven he can score goals for us when needed.
If we secure Merino then I’d like to see us add another wide forward who is pacy and a trickster. If not we still have the squad to compete in my view.
As long as they are good enough it would be great to see more academy players in and around the match day squad this season and gaining significant minutes.
That ‘ Fat contract’ he’s on is all he needs for a very comfortable life.And probably more than happy to fill out the squad doing his duty when called.Eventually he’ll walk on a free.
"Should William Saliba feature in a win against Wolves on Saturday, he will become the fastest Arsenal player in the club’s history to reach 50 Premier League wins (66 matches).
" As you can see, Arteta's instilled the "beating City is impossible" idea into our squad...
The reality?
City dropped points in more than 1/4 games (10/38 games).
Dropped over a 1/5 of their points.
Anyone who thinks that this is insurmountable shouldn't be in the job."
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We need to hit the ground running. We have performed terrible in cup competitions best was quarter finals of UCL in last 2 years We came 2nd. We are more of our own problem in the last 2 years despite the fact City is very good.
To be honest Arteta thought he would win the league in his first full season. Hada bit of a reality check and took things easier.
It's the likes of Pedro and any other posters here that the cap fits who believe City to be insurmountable. Arteta has genuinely tried and failed so far.
Eddie’s numbers aren’t bad, his problems is that he isn’t good enough to start for any EPL club that plays possession based style, and doesn’t have the speed to interest the transition style playing clubs.
I support Edu and the clubs business, but I think Sociedad is playing us like a violin.
They have us bidding 30m for a 28yr old with a year left on his contract, when we all know they can't afford to let him walk for free in a year. No way.
They can't throw away 18 - 25m. The player and his agent should be stronger for the move. Him saying he doesn't mind staying is making it harder on us.
... and if Eddie isn't offloaded, we have failed because he doesn't fit in our team anymore. I would have taken 20m for him just to be over it. Loan him out if necessary because at least then he can prove his value. I don't want him taking up a bench spot from Nwaneri, Nelson, even Vieira who can create a goal out of nothing.
"Ajax beat Panathinaikos 13-12 on penalties after an epic shootout featuring 34 spot-kicks to reach the Europa League qualifying play-off round."
Ajax playing the EL qualify round?
How low have the mighty fallen.
Incredible how many people are losing their shit over Eddies eventual fee. He will go for whatever the eventual auction value ends up at. He wasn’t good enough for us but will succeed at a smaller club. Wish him well and stop looking for blame as if a major catastrophe was occurring
Eddie can be sold to anybody who wants to pay the right amount of money.
Crystal Palace wants Eddie. A match made in heaven.
Nketiah cannot be sold to our rivals, it has to be a top 4 team from the big European leagues.
Unlikely but why are you worried? It wouldn’t improve them anymore than it did us
Sid overplayed his hand here - no reasonable person would sincerely hold this opinion, it’s risible. He’s just baiting a reaction
When it comes to Sid, theres only one body part that gets overplayed and its not his hand
You are so weird mate
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Nketiah is too good for midtable teams without Europe football
No he isn’t Sid; he has had a long time to prove otherwise
Gd4 mg42 panicking as usual. Needs a little nurturing.
To help people think clearly about the Eddie situation, this is not on Arteta. It's on Edu, Garlick and the other suits upstairs.
It's not within Arteta's brief to set valuation and negotiate player incoming and exits.
He signed off on letting Eddie leave, he's done his job. He hasn't played Eddie much so he's sent the club a message already.
They are letting Arteta down too. He's brought us close to the target and needs help to get us over the summit.
We obviously are close to some PSR target and we have to sell to buy, so Eddie staying means someone more suited to Arteta ball can't come in.
There is no “situation” other than what you’re conjuring in your mind
On the contrary, it's arteta that is making their jobs hard for them. When you have a player who you truly don't trust but pretend to value them and ask Edu to offer them hefty contracts. Few weeks down the line, you confine them almost permanently on the bench, run down their values almost to nothing, then turn to Edu to sell them so as to afford some shiny new players. People are so afraid of arteta that he is never wrong. It is Edu or the players always. How easy do you think edu's job would have been if he was working with klopp or pep?
"When you have a player who you truly don't trust but pretend to value them "
Arteta has to talk them up though, to protect their values. His best speech about the player's qualities is when he doesn't bring them when the game is on the line. Everything else is PR fluff
He sanctioned the players exit, that speaks volumes. That is where his work ends. He has NOTHING to do with the outgoing negotiations. For incoming negotiations, his job is to make himself available to the player's questions about what their role is, he still doesn't negotiate contracts.
He has everything do do with it. How easy would it have been for Edu to sell Ramsdale last season if arteta has opened up to him that he's not in his plan and not bother extending his contract thereby taking his wage to 120k. But no arteta's right and Edu is at fault. Now who is going to take a goalkeeper whose confidence is in tatters? Who is going to buy a striker who is not trusted by his manager to start in meaningless games? who is going to market a winger who sits on the bench while a waste of space like Vieira plays in his position?
Edu is doing a thankless job at arsenal. He's done his best helping arteta sign as many players as possible that he requested. He has done well to convince as many as possible players arteta want him to extend their contracts. What else do you want from him? He is expected to market redundant players whose values have been completely eroded by being constantly ignored and left rotten on the bench. And worse still, he is expected to sell for some insane amount.
I was on record as wanting to take the offer we had...and I worry we may not get a good fee for Eddie, or be stuck with him, and losing value.. but I don't think we are in as bad a situation overall as some gooners fear.
This Eddie situation is not great for a player we don't use much at all. But we're not in dire straits financially as some fear.
Credibility of that completely lost by mentioning Ian Wright - ffs are you for real?
Yeah, the common denominator is the low IQ of the posters.
Eddie hasn't played more than 1070 mins per season in the league either.
The fellas think that 5 goals in 1000 mins is bad (no pens) then sure.
The incredible Evanilson scored 11 non penalty goals in 2070 mins in the Portugal liga.
I must have finally matured slightly as the transfer window being quiet hasn’t bothered me whatsoever. I am just looking forward to the actual football starting again.
With regard to Nketiah, if there are no takers then I’ve got no issue with him staying as back up or 2nd back up. His wages can’t be changed so no use whinging about that. He has proven he can score goals for us when needed.
If we secure Merino then I’d like to see us add another wide forward who is pacy and a trickster. If not we still have the squad to compete in my view.
As long as they are good enough it would be great to see more academy players in and around the match day squad this season and gaining significant minutes.
Found the sane one ☝️
We still have a lot of dead wood to get rid of. Will we be able to do it by the end of the month? Let's hope so.
Eddie is like those actors/actresses that stick to one role in a TV series until they get permanently defined by that role.
I realized there was something wrong when he wasn't actively agitating to leave to rescue his career. He is 25 years old now, no longer a child.
He needs to desperately leave for his own good to make a name for himself and create some memories to look back on.
A load of shite and drivel in one post. With all due respect.
That ‘ Fat contract’ he’s on is all he needs for a very comfortable life.And probably more than happy to fill out the squad doing his duty when called.Eventually he’ll walk on a free.
From gooner acct on twitter -
"Should William Saliba feature in a win against Wolves on Saturday, he will become the fastest Arsenal player in the club’s history to reach 50 Premier League wins (66 matches).
65 matches
49 wins
8 draws
8 losses
75.4% win percentage"
Saw this on twitter:
" As you can see, Arteta's instilled the "beating City is impossible" idea into our squad...
The reality?
City dropped points in more than 1/4 games (10/38 games).
Dropped over a 1/5 of their points.
Anyone who thinks that this is insurmountable shouldn't be in the job."
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We need to hit the ground running. We have performed terrible in cup competitions best was quarter finals of UCL in last 2 years We came 2nd. We are more of our own problem in the last 2 years despite the fact City is very good.
To be honest Arteta thought he would win the league in his first full season. Hada bit of a reality check and took things easier.
It's the likes of Pedro and any other posters here that the cap fits who believe City to be insurmountable. Arteta has genuinely tried and failed so far.
Your opinion....he never gave that impression. Why make such an assertion that you cannot back up?
He sold a pitch to Willian that included winning the league and UCL in his first 3 seasons.
This season, let us finally mount the bitch
Eddie’s numbers aren’t bad, his problems is that he isn’t good enough to start for any EPL club that plays possession based style, and doesn’t have the speed to interest the transition style playing clubs.
Nice kid though.
Not at 30m and 100kpw that is
Dissenter is so invested he forgets the window has basically just started.
No it hasn't