I think they're still negotiating Diss, I thought it was already done as well. From that Jover article:
"Arsenal are in the final stages of extending the contracts of Mikel Arteta’s backroom staff. Jover and his colleagues are expected to join the manager in receiving extensions until 2027, along with a significant pay rise."
I’m going to make lots of money by bottling the tears of Yawnited fans who are calling into shitesports talking about “…by the way, Arsenal-stoke are a disgrace-they are a set piece team”
Yawnited tear-juice, rich in vitamins and whiny minerals
I found myself respecting Arteta more last season when it was astutely observed that every time we have a set-piece, Arteta leaves the technical area for Jover.
It’s not because Jober does any real time coaching in these situations, most of the set-piece work is done on the training pitches - setpieces are pretty much routine based honed from repetitive drills.
Arteta does everything to not stand in the way of the accolades that the Jover deserves.
"How much is set-piece coach Nico Jover worth to Arsenal?
Arsenal’s two goals on Wednesday mean they have now scored 22 times from corners since the start of last season — more than any other Premier League team across that period. Ten of those goals have opened the scoring. So often, set pieces are what allow Arsenal to break the game open.
How do you begin to quantify Jover’s contribution? If a player had contributed directly to that many crucial goals, what would their market value be? Even with a healthy pay bump, Jover could be considered cheap at the price."
That has to be one of the worst man U performances I have ever witnessed live. No ambition no drive, just wait for a chance. We hardly have them any timber was great, Kiwior did really well with some lovely passes and that midfield of ours is not getting out muscled. Martinelli continues to be an enigma my son said to me last night. That's his ceiling he is never going to get better than that is he?
Nope is the answer. He needs to be replaced IMO and we need another striker for sure and considering we collect left backs and defenders in general the bench looked threadbare of them.
Anyway 7 points now I have a feeling Everton will roll them at the weekend and we get revenge on Fulham. COYG
Not if you listen to their deluded,entitled,hate filled fans( talkshite)we battered them 2nd half.They had one effort on target.First half one effort,wide.( & that was due to a kiwior error,though he had a very solid match)An XG of nearly 3 & there’s an XG of less than 0.30 tells you all you need to know.
It’s such a pleasure to listen to their pain.Especially when they lose to us.It kills em.😂
And then it was 7……. Gone from being a Liverpool are rolling it. To it’s all to play for in one week. Got to love the media. Good win for us without hitting the heights. Players got out of that game in one piece as well which is a bonus as you never know when a UTD player will wildly swing out. For Arteta that’s 4 on the trot against UTD which is an Arsenal managed record. Great stuff
It's insulting when players like Isak do the things dey do weekly and we hear a poster say Haverts is top 5 CF in the world.
Unai and Pep got much needed wins yesterday as well lol. Men have they been in a rot! Villa tumbled down to 12th before yesterday's game. Everton also getting a 4-0 win for the first time in 4 years? I'm surprised they are still in the PL honestly
Nothing else matters other than we won yesterday against United. Wasn't a vintage performance but a clear win nonetheless. Just like I expected. Liverpool's Kelleher was our biggest hero yesterday leaving that floating ball only for Schaar to equalise back post. Onto Fulham. Not talking about titles. Just lukewarm. At this point, I'm more excited about the Carling cup
There is one set piece blind spot which even the King Jover seems to have tho - kick offs
Whyyyyyy from every kick off do we play the ball back to the keeper who in turn just hoofs it long???
I’ve been desperately trying to work out what the objective is with this one and I’m yet to see it adding any value at all
Half the time we lose the ball outright. A third of the time it ends up going for a throw in just past the halfway line. The remaining time Havertz or whoever wins the header and it goes backwards to a midfielder near the halfway line…
I’ve never once seen it achieve any clear goal like catch a team cold and win a corner kick or create a chance or anything. Given how it usually ends with us just losing the ball or at best keeping it with minimal advantage gained, surely keeping the ball from kick off makes far more sense?
We spend all this time coaching Raya to play one twos with CBs rather than hoof it long, but every kick off we turn into Peter Kay shouting ‘about iiiiit’ like the old John smiths beer advert
It's a 'field-tilt' tactic. If we pin the oppo into their end-- for the first action-- we may win the ball back and possibly score quickly. If not, it's almost assured-- the oppo will not score on us-- early in that half.
We are controlling the first segment of a half-- by decree.
Not necessarily a fan of it-- but do grasp what Mikel is dictating-- by eliminating the first 2-3 minutes of one half from contention-- unless it's Arsenal who have advantage.
On another note the United path has really been a thing to behold, wasn't so long ago we'd shutter when that fixture appeared, god forbid it being a UCL encounter like the one CR7 abused the entire side and I drank myself silly.
They now rock up playing a Christmas Tree formation and pray for a counter attacking goal. Trust thy process they made fun of... well dig in chaps it's just begun.
I honestly think Jover just borrowed the bunched group at the far post from watching what other sports do from set plays . Basketball stacked formation on inbounds play or Nfl Bunched formation with all the receivers in a group. These are zone buster plays as the defenders don't know who to mark and they have to turn their head away from the direction the ball is coming to find somebody to mark or they don't know who is coming into their area. And it's almost impossible to man mark as you have natural picks and moving screens. And to adapt it to Football is pretty genius.
I also think tbh he’s doing what set piece coaches/managers should’ve been doing 50 years ago. Honestly the amount of damage you can do with a bit of creativity on set pieces is untold and is by far the most untapped potential in the sport.
99% of all set pieces are entirely routine and are basically just hit and hope at a certain spot rather than clever.
The one that really irks me is when two players stand relatively near a free kick. One takes a step forward and pretends to lean in then pulls out. AFTER first guy pulls out the second guy runs up and takes it. That pause is so dumb. You’d cause far more confusion by having the first player and second player start their approach at similar times, have the first player follow through with a full dummy and the second player arriving to hit the ball only a second after (of course mixing the routine up, it’s just one example)
There’s honestly so much that can be done on free kicks and corners to catch teams with their pants down and it just never ever happens.
Jover is at the cutting edge of this time in that he’s clocked that nobody has any idea how to defend this current batch of routines so we’re milking it now. But eventually he should consider adding some other mix ups once teams get slightly wiser to it
Middy you're probably right because there have been articles like this for past few years.I assume the Kroenkes encouraged Arteta and McVay this relationship.
"The Arsenal head coach spoke to his Los Angeles Rams counterpart this week to get insight into training methods"
Just occurred to me that Jover just got a pay raise, when Mikel got his pay raise.
I think they're still negotiating Diss, I thought it was already done as well. From that Jover article:
"Arsenal are in the final stages of extending the contracts of Mikel Arteta’s backroom staff. Jover and his colleagues are expected to join the manager in receiving extensions until 2027, along with a significant pay rise."
Thanks for the update
Mikel shouldn't have signed his own deal until his assistants deals were agreed.
I’m going to make lots of money by bottling the tears of Yawnited fans who are calling into shitesports talking about “…by the way, Arsenal-stoke are a disgrace-they are a set piece team”
Yawnited tear-juice, rich in vitamins and whiny minerals
That narrative has really kicked up a gear today. I'm loving it.
I found myself respecting Arteta more last season when it was astutely observed that every time we have a set-piece, Arteta leaves the technical area for Jover.
It’s not because Jober does any real time coaching in these situations, most of the set-piece work is done on the training pitches - setpieces are pretty much routine based honed from repetitive drills.
Arteta does everything to not stand in the way of the accolades that the Jover deserves.
Jeorge Bird -
"Junichi Inamoto has announced his retirement aged 45. He was the last remaining player who represented Arsenal at Highbury who was still playing."
The Athletic -
"How much is set-piece coach Nico Jover worth to Arsenal?
Arsenal’s two goals on Wednesday mean they have now scored 22 times from corners since the start of last season — more than any other Premier League team across that period. Ten of those goals have opened the scoring. So often, set pieces are what allow Arsenal to break the game open.
How do you begin to quantify Jover’s contribution? If a player had contributed directly to that many crucial goals, what would their market value be? Even with a healthy pay bump, Jover could be considered cheap at the price."
https://archive.ph/dcpJU
https://x.com/aliladiere/status/1864589327189098958
Just wanted to share this here 😂😂😂
That has to be one of the worst man U performances I have ever witnessed live. No ambition no drive, just wait for a chance. We hardly have them any timber was great, Kiwior did really well with some lovely passes and that midfield of ours is not getting out muscled. Martinelli continues to be an enigma my son said to me last night. That's his ceiling he is never going to get better than that is he?
Nope is the answer. He needs to be replaced IMO and we need another striker for sure and considering we collect left backs and defenders in general the bench looked threadbare of them.
Anyway 7 points now I have a feeling Everton will roll them at the weekend and we get revenge on Fulham. COYG
I thought they looked quite good
You can see what Hes trying to do there already
I think they are going to be a huge threat soon
Not if you listen to their deluded,entitled,hate filled fans( talkshite)we battered them 2nd half.They had one effort on target.First half one effort,wide.( & that was due to a kiwior error,though he had a very solid match)An XG of nearly 3 & there’s an XG of less than 0.30 tells you all you need to know.
It’s such a pleasure to listen to their pain.Especially when they lose to us.It kills em.😂
Would be gross negligence to not upgrade our LW and ST positions next summer
And then it was 7……. Gone from being a Liverpool are rolling it. To it’s all to play for in one week. Got to love the media. Good win for us without hitting the heights. Players got out of that game in one piece as well which is a bonus as you never know when a UTD player will wildly swing out. For Arteta that’s 4 on the trot against UTD which is an Arsenal managed record. Great stuff
It's insulting when players like Isak do the things dey do weekly and we hear a poster say Haverts is top 5 CF in the world.
Unai and Pep got much needed wins yesterday as well lol. Men have they been in a rot! Villa tumbled down to 12th before yesterday's game. Everton also getting a 4-0 win for the first time in 4 years? I'm surprised they are still in the PL honestly
We have scored 13 in our previous 3 games. What the hell are you watching lad
Nothing else matters other than we won yesterday against United. Wasn't a vintage performance but a clear win nonetheless. Just like I expected. Liverpool's Kelleher was our biggest hero yesterday leaving that floating ball only for Schaar to equalise back post. Onto Fulham. Not talking about titles. Just lukewarm. At this point, I'm more excited about the Carling cup
There is one set piece blind spot which even the King Jover seems to have tho - kick offs
Whyyyyyy from every kick off do we play the ball back to the keeper who in turn just hoofs it long???
I’ve been desperately trying to work out what the objective is with this one and I’m yet to see it adding any value at all
Half the time we lose the ball outright. A third of the time it ends up going for a throw in just past the halfway line. The remaining time Havertz or whoever wins the header and it goes backwards to a midfielder near the halfway line…
I’ve never once seen it achieve any clear goal like catch a team cold and win a corner kick or create a chance or anything. Given how it usually ends with us just losing the ball or at best keeping it with minimal advantage gained, surely keeping the ball from kick off makes far more sense?
We spend all this time coaching Raya to play one twos with CBs rather than hoof it long, but every kick off we turn into Peter Kay shouting ‘about iiiiit’ like the old John smiths beer advert
Drives me mad lol
‘Have iiiiit’…..
It's a 'field-tilt' tactic. If we pin the oppo into their end-- for the first action-- we may win the ball back and possibly score quickly. If not, it's almost assured-- the oppo will not score on us-- early in that half.
We are controlling the first segment of a half-- by decree.
Not necessarily a fan of it-- but do grasp what Mikel is dictating-- by eliminating the first 2-3 minutes of one half from contention-- unless it's Arsenal who have advantage.
Winning-- by whatever margins available.
Keep on pushing 2x points slashed, we move.
On another note the United path has really been a thing to behold, wasn't so long ago we'd shutter when that fixture appeared, god forbid it being a UCL encounter like the one CR7 abused the entire side and I drank myself silly.
They now rock up playing a Christmas Tree formation and pray for a counter attacking goal. Trust thy process they made fun of... well dig in chaps it's just begun.
I honestly think Jover just borrowed the bunched group at the far post from watching what other sports do from set plays . Basketball stacked formation on inbounds play or Nfl Bunched formation with all the receivers in a group. These are zone buster plays as the defenders don't know who to mark and they have to turn their head away from the direction the ball is coming to find somebody to mark or they don't know who is coming into their area. And it's almost impossible to man mark as you have natural picks and moving screens. And to adapt it to Football is pretty genius.
I think that’s a good summary.
I also think tbh he’s doing what set piece coaches/managers should’ve been doing 50 years ago. Honestly the amount of damage you can do with a bit of creativity on set pieces is untold and is by far the most untapped potential in the sport.
99% of all set pieces are entirely routine and are basically just hit and hope at a certain spot rather than clever.
The one that really irks me is when two players stand relatively near a free kick. One takes a step forward and pretends to lean in then pulls out. AFTER first guy pulls out the second guy runs up and takes it. That pause is so dumb. You’d cause far more confusion by having the first player and second player start their approach at similar times, have the first player follow through with a full dummy and the second player arriving to hit the ball only a second after (of course mixing the routine up, it’s just one example)
There’s honestly so much that can be done on free kicks and corners to catch teams with their pants down and it just never ever happens.
Jover is at the cutting edge of this time in that he’s clocked that nobody has any idea how to defend this current batch of routines so we’re milking it now. But eventually he should consider adding some other mix ups once teams get slightly wiser to it
I wonder why Jover does not pay more attention to throw ins, why don't we train someone to be next Rory Delap and use it a weapon like he was.
Middy you're probably right because there have been articles like this for past few years.I assume the Kroenkes encouraged Arteta and McVay this relationship.
"The Arsenal head coach spoke to his Los Angeles Rams counterpart this week to get insight into training methods"
https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/news/mikel-arteta-arsenal-stan-kroenke-18221049
Jover is a fucking evil genius.
Jover MVP
Long balls / Accurate long balls
Raya - 16 / 7
Kiwior - 11 / 5
Partey - 6 / 6
Clearly instructions from Arteta.