Can't wait for the Euros to end. Too many teams are playing, too many games are played, too little prep time to get the players from varying teams/leagues to mesh together as a team. This football is boring because many of players have played too much football already and now they're asked to play in extreme heat....I'd rather be reading fabricated transfer rumours than opine about this unnecessary tournament. The Euros have placed the transfers on hold and will place many athletes at increased risk of injury next year as they will have too little recovery time in the summer.
So all of Group E finished on 4 points. Would all teams go through? Cos even their 4th best team will finish higher than at most of the 3rd placed teams in the other groups.
Zinchenko dropped from the starting lineup and they are playing well both defensively and offensively. Anyone surprised? Has happened a bunch of times at Arsenal.
Zinchenko reserve to Mykolenko of Everton. Can't hack it in midfield either. Insane.
Mykolenko was injured and that's why he didn't play in their first 2 games btw. As soon as he was fully healthy, Ukraine's coach put him right in from the start.
Just about now, Mykolenko got injured again. Time for our boy Zina to shine!
Northbanker, if I understand the brackets and possible permutations correctly England will play one of Netherlands, Slovakia , or Ukraine in the next round.
Only two of these are what you might consider “shit” teams……. but you’d prefer the Dutch obviously, purely for entertainments sake.
As piss poor as Southgate is motivating a highly talented pool of players, fact remains most of the footballing ire should be aimed at Slovenia. Total game spoilers and came to squeeze a draw no matter what“
You mean the country of 2 million nobody expects to do anything of note at any tournament didn’t play an open game against the pre tournament joint favorites?!?!
At one point during the game the commentators ran through some stats, like England with the fewest passes in opposition pen box in competition, or my particular favorite Foden with more passes completed to Pickford (2) than to Kane (1) for the tournament.
I couldn’t give a shit what the population of Slovenia is. It isn’t relevant. - they play dire football and the sooner they’re out of the tournament the better.
Unfortunately with this stupid 3rd place idea, we have to suffer these shite teams for longer
I also happen to think Nigel has some decent stuff to say when he focuses on football and he isn’t boasting over his predictions and insulting everyone he can find.
It may not agree with your view but that doesn’t make it a rant. The 3rd place issue is a terrible idea. I might be an England fan but that doesn’t affect my view on the cheapening of football in this way.
He’s got to find a way to get palmer into this team
Mainoo and Wharton look like proper footballers, very clever and technical
I’d love Wharton Wharton at arsenal
People giving Kane shit. The guy has been sensational all season and then looks like shit as soon as Southgate gets him
This is not a Kane problem
It’s a donkey face problem
Kane is in my opinion , the best all round centre forward in world football. He looks about 10 years older under Southgate than he ever has for any other coach
He used to make up with set piece goals for England but they have dried up
We also need a runner to create space. There is no runner here
I was never a huge fan of Sterling but his running gave space to the others
No I’m telling you that bringing up three players with not more than half a dozen collective caps to save the euros is a joke. Palmer came on when Slovenia were tiring and he still couldn’t do shit, a Sterling/Grealish would have changed that game.
The England squad is imbalanced and poorly thought out. You even have a left back who’s still not training after THREE games in the competition.
2 left sided players who offer something totally different and would bring natural balance to our attack so we could move foden inside or drop him and leav Bellingham as our 10
Agree that it’s not balanced and poorly thought out
But…. I’m not suggesting players to “save” the Euros, I’m suggesting adding some variety to our play as we are functional and robotic with no natural off ball runners in the first team outside of Saka, who once again is our best player despite being only 21
When he was first deployed as an 18 year old he improved our team quite substantially and increased our attacking threat
Giving palmer a go could do just that
So could adding mainoo in the middle or dropping Bellingham in beside rice, brining foden into the middle to combine with Saka and Gordon on the left as our runner, like trossard or martinelli do for us and like Sterling used to do for England
As piss poor as Southgate is motivating a highly talented pool of players, fact remains most of the footballing ire should be aimed at Slovenia. Total game spoilers and came to squeeze a draw no matter what
This negativity is what should be occupying the minds of footballs rulers. The third place award is part of the problem as it encourages shite teams like Slovenia and Serbia to play for draws rather than go for the win
The third place award is an appalling idea. It makes the whole draw too uncertain and renders the group stage a complete waste of time and keeps shit teams in the tournament longer than they should be. The dimwits in UEFA are clearly rivalling the fuckwits in FIFA
The coaches have succeeded in taking the joy out of football. A once hugely interesting game that could kill depression and stop wars is now the ignition for both. Smh.
Frankly the Euros are a bore and the standard of football and entertainment overall is depressing.
My uptake when I have watched England play is that most of the players would prefer to be sitting on a beach or around the swimming pool on holiday rather than at this tournament.
From my point of view the sooner Rice and Saka or for that matter Saliba, Havertz and both
Gabriel and Martinelli at Copa America are out of these competitions the better. They need a
Can't wait for the Euros to end. Too many teams are playing, too many games are played, too little prep time to get the players from varying teams/leagues to mesh together as a team. This football is boring because many of players have played too much football already and now they're asked to play in extreme heat....I'd rather be reading fabricated transfer rumours than opine about this unnecessary tournament. The Euros have placed the transfers on hold and will place many athletes at increased risk of injury next year as they will have too little recovery time in the summer.
Georgia spanking Portugal!
So all of Group E finished on 4 points. Would all teams go through? Cos even their 4th best team will finish higher than at most of the 3rd placed teams in the other groups.
Want to see how uefa will spin this one.
Mystic, they only look at who is 3rd in each table and each of these teams are put in a table to figure out who goes through.
Trossard didn't play well either tbh.
Zinchenko dropped from the starting lineup and they are playing well both defensively and offensively. Anyone surprised? Has happened a bunch of times at Arsenal.
Zinchenko reserve to Mykolenko of Everton. Can't hack it in midfield either. Insane.
Mykolenko was injured and that's why he didn't play in their first 2 games btw. As soon as he was fully healthy, Ukraine's coach put him right in from the start.
Just about now, Mykolenko got injured again. Time for our boy Zina to shine!
Northbanker, if I understand the brackets and possible permutations correctly England will play one of Netherlands, Slovakia , or Ukraine in the next round.
Only two of these are what you might consider “shit” teams……. but you’d prefer the Dutch obviously, purely for entertainments sake.
Shame on the England "fans" who booed and threw paper cups on Southgate in Germany.
They are proper idiots.
Forget the banter, England have the luck of the draws. They can win the Euros playing poorly.
Lol, paper cups. He should count his lucky stars; they weren't coins.
209 goals/assists between Kane, Saka, Foden, Palmer, and Bellingham during club play for the season, or what Sid calls lack of talent.
We all know Sid is an idiot
We all know Sid is a savant
No genius lurking there - Sid is just an idiot
Rooney, Lampard, Gerard, Scholes, Beckham 119g/assists for the 2011/12 season when England lost to Italy in quarters on penalties.
I’m surprised a savant wouldn’t have that info at the ready, but maybe counting toothpicks spilled on a diner’s floor is more of your specialty.
Palmer was the English in form player coming into Euros, you’d think an innovative manager might find a way to get him more minutes.
Southgate will get England into quarters or semis on talent and defensive set up alone.
And if gets them to the final he will be hailed as an overachiever.
The most boring football manager around.
Absolutely
“Northbanker
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As piss poor as Southgate is motivating a highly talented pool of players, fact remains most of the footballing ire should be aimed at Slovenia. Total game spoilers and came to squeeze a draw no matter what“
You mean the country of 2 million nobody expects to do anything of note at any tournament didn’t play an open game against the pre tournament joint favorites?!?!
At one point during the game the commentators ran through some stats, like England with the fewest passes in opposition pen box in competition, or my particular favorite Foden with more passes completed to Pickford (2) than to Kane (1) for the tournament.
Not sure we can blame those on Slovenia.
I couldn’t give a shit what the population of Slovenia is. It isn’t relevant. - they play dire football and the sooner they’re out of the tournament the better.
Unfortunately with this stupid 3rd place idea, we have to suffer these shite teams for longer
England will play a third place team in the last 16th, or a shit team as you call them.
Color me weird but that seems like a good deal if you’re an England fan, which you seem to be.
Another less than stellar opponent to work out the kinks in the system ( TAA playing mid for example), and build up some form of rhythm.
A hell of a better deal than a second place team which from some groups it could be a hard nut to crack.
So yea, you’re not making too much sense in your shit teams rant.
May I suggest less interaction with Nigel, he drags you down to his level.
I also happen to think Nigel has some decent stuff to say when he focuses on football and he isn’t boasting over his predictions and insulting everyone he can find.
It may not agree with your view but that doesn’t make it a rant. The 3rd place issue is a terrible idea. I might be an England fan but that doesn’t affect my view on the cheapening of football in this way.
Describing Nigel as 'it' would have been perfect
He’s got to find a way to get palmer into this team
Mainoo and Wharton look like proper footballers, very clever and technical
I’d love Wharton Wharton at arsenal
People giving Kane shit. The guy has been sensational all season and then looks like shit as soon as Southgate gets him
This is not a Kane problem
It’s a donkey face problem
Kane is in my opinion , the best all round centre forward in world football. He looks about 10 years older under Southgate than he ever has for any other coach
He used to make up with set piece goals for England but they have dried up
We also need a runner to create space. There is no runner here
I was never a huge fan of Sterling but his running gave space to the others
It’s. It the euros under 21
You’re talking about Wharton, Mainoo and Palmer at a major tournament ?
Southgate is suffering because he left experienced players at home.
What a joke
You’re telling me
Kane
Saka
Foden
Bellingham
Rice
Taa
Walker
Stones
Trippier
Aren’t experienced?
No I’m telling you that bringing up three players with not more than half a dozen collective caps to save the euros is a joke. Palmer came on when Slovenia were tiring and he still couldn’t do shit, a Sterling/Grealish would have changed that game.
The England squad is imbalanced and poorly thought out. You even have a left back who’s still not training after THREE games in the competition.
I think we should have brought grealish and rashford personally
2 left sided players who offer something totally different and would bring natural balance to our attack so we could move foden inside or drop him and leav Bellingham as our 10
Agree that it’s not balanced and poorly thought out
But…. I’m not suggesting players to “save” the Euros, I’m suggesting adding some variety to our play as we are functional and robotic with no natural off ball runners in the first team outside of Saka, who once again is our best player despite being only 21
When he was first deployed as an 18 year old he improved our team quite substantially and increased our attacking threat
Giving palmer a go could do just that
So could adding mainoo in the middle or dropping Bellingham in beside rice, brining foden into the middle to combine with Saka and Gordon on the left as our runner, like trossard or martinelli do for us and like Sterling used to do for England
Contrast this with Portugal and Spain who came to win. They came with a seasoned and experienced team to actually close the deal.
Looooool
Portugal came to win you American mug
Our fist team is as experienced as any in the world
Prove me wrong
To be perfectly honest I missed the first 60 minutes of last night's game as I had booked dinner with friends in a gastro pub in Highgate.
The pub was full which would in normal circumstances be surprising when England are playing in
a football tournament.
Frankly I had forgotten that England were playing when I booked the restaurant, but the 30 minutes
I did watch convinced me that I had made the right decision.
Watching England play football is as dull as dishwater.
As piss poor as Southgate is motivating a highly talented pool of players, fact remains most of the footballing ire should be aimed at Slovenia. Total game spoilers and came to squeeze a draw no matter what
This negativity is what should be occupying the minds of footballs rulers. The third place award is part of the problem as it encourages shite teams like Slovenia and Serbia to play for draws rather than go for the win
The third place award is an appalling idea. It makes the whole draw too uncertain and renders the group stage a complete waste of time and keeps shit teams in the tournament longer than they should be. The dimwits in UEFA are clearly rivalling the fuckwits in FIFA
It's just to make more money as there are more games being played.
UEFA/FIFA execs don't care about the players being over played.
As long as they can find new ways to make more money and stuff their pockets with it that's all that matters to them.
The coaches have succeeded in taking the joy out of football. A once hugely interesting game that could kill depression and stop wars is now the ignition for both. Smh.
This is agree with
The rise of the micro manager is killing excitement flair and spectacle and making it sterile
Frankly the Euros are a bore and the standard of football and entertainment overall is depressing.
My uptake when I have watched England play is that most of the players would prefer to be sitting on a beach or around the swimming pool on holiday rather than at this tournament.
From my point of view the sooner Rice and Saka or for that matter Saliba, Havertz and both
Gabriel and Martinelli at Copa America are out of these competitions the better. They need a
break before next season.
It will be the case by Sunday.
To me this lack of interest is down to players who are fed up of Southgate.
When he first started and rejunuvated the England team, you could tell that players were willing to fight and go far.
For some reason, Southgate has this irrational fear of losing and has become overly cautious.
Southgate's ultra-cautiousness is what is killing this team and players are just bored of it.