I was at the shaktar game it's the worst I have seen us play in a looong time. Please play Nwaneri he can't be worse than what's was out there the other night. We may even create something
Squad assembly is as important a characteristic as in- game management, tactics, formation, substitutions etc. However, it's regarded here as less important. Arteta does not seem to learn. Three seasons ago he quite rightly discarded misfits and those whom he did not like, which is his prerogative. For example, players sold or loaned out included Mustafi, Sokratis, Torreira, Guendouzi, AIM, Kolasinac etc. However, squad numbers were not replaced and by the end of that season, a "4th place trophy" we should have easily have secured disappeared as injuries, poor form took over and we lacked numbers, let alone quality in the run-in. This was ridiculous and negligent. This pre-season, Arteta had the opportunity to further improve the squad and build on two seasons' 2nd place. What does he do, get rid of Smith-Rowe, Nelson, Nketiah, which we can all understand to some extent. However, he then buys yet another defender and defensive midfielder in Calafiori and Merino and loans in the has-been, Sterling. Where is the balance? We have no-one to understudy Saka or Odegaard,refuses to play Nwaneri and picks another has-been, Jesus, to play and as a captain last night! This follows the highly creative midfield of Rice, Partey and Merino against the mighty Bournemouth. Arteta has not given the club the best chance of success this season and his risk averse and safety first tactics will be found out against better clubs going forward.
I think Rice's transfer looms over our budget and our needs still have to be heavily adjusted according to West Ham's tough conditions aka paying the lump sum of the transfer in the first couple of years.
I wonder how badly our finances were affected by Arteta decision to sign Ramsdale as our No 1 and then change his mind four months later to sign another No 1 that we couldn't afford, had to do loan deal for a season before purchase, and club lost £££ on Ramsdale sale this summer.
How do you know how much we have to spend or not spend? Spending £80m+ on the defence and defensive midfield, plus another youth keeper was hardly priority was it? In four years, Arteta has not managed to find anybody, internally or elsewhere who can adequaely fill in or help to rotate Saka and Odegaard.
🚨 Understand Bukayo Saka is expected to be available for the upcoming match against Liverpool, having trained, pending any last-minute changes or niggles, meanwhile Riccardo Calafiori is set to undergo a crucial scan scheduled for today.
We are flaming Arsenal while City have been getting away with it.
I saw a table on twitter that shows the xG for and xG against only while teams were 11v11. The Arsenal some love to flame have the highest xG for and the lowest xG against. Shocking for some, I know.
We'll go back to our best from the games against City, Leicester and PSG. We just need to get a couple of bodies back - mainly Saka, and be a bit smarter to avoid getting red carded. If we were 11v11 we would have been 1st on the table and not by a point either.
City drew in the last minute against us and a few days ago scored a winner in the last second. If the goals in the last second didn't go in, we'd be talking about a crises there but since they did all is fine? I'm more interested in the other 94 minutes of the games and especially when it's 11v11 cause surely this avalanche of red cards coming our way will stop soon. Surely...
For the record, I am not of the same opinion as Pedro saying we win the league after pep leaves. This year is a must for me. It is essential we win it. Otherwise we will be in danger of losing our best players.
But I am not mad at the fact that we aren't as smooth as we could be about our football. There is context to it. We aren't playing at our best but we have deserved to win most of our games, and we have. Performances will improve.
That is what sort of patience I am talking about. Yeah the football isn't as good as it could be but there are factors attached to it. And I am of the opinion that Arteta will get it right. Our fixtures are fairly spread out to our advantage. We have 2 hard games at times but we have already passed the hardest fixture runs of our season with Villa, Spurs and City away. After our next batch of fixtures involving Newcastle and Inter and Chelsea, we have a smoother ride than our challengers.
And the league will be close contested. And I haven't completely written off our signings. I think Merino will come good and we have already seen what Calafiori offers us. Sterling has been poor. But I am not completely writing him off for now either.
The mood will be different if we win on Sunday against Liverpool. And I believe we will
So why is it that we cleared the deck of attacking players who were backup but did not replace them in the window?
It was criminal negligence to enter the last hours of the window without a striking option, that we were willing to take the chance stands as an indictment.
The squad is too tilted towards defense, that's why we have only two players creative players in the entire squad.
"Jack Wilshere is leaving his role as Under-18s head coach to join Norwich City as a first-team coach.
Our former midfielder Jack rejoined us in July 2022 as Under-18s head coach and made an immediate impact, leading the team to the FA Youth Cup Final in his first full season in charge. Since returning to the club, Jack, who himself developed through our academy before making 197 senior appearances for the club, has been an influential figure for our young players at what is a crucial stage of their careers."
Fans really need to be patient as long as we aren't miles behind Liverpool and City. It was the same last season. It took us a bit of time to find the fluidity to play fantastic football. We have been ravaged by injuries, and are trying a lot of different combinations so far this season. The midfield has had no continuity, the defense has had multiple injuries and even in forward lines we have missed some players at times. I think we will beat Liverpool. And I think we will be in touching distance by January. And when we find our groove, we will be unstoppable and we will go on a mad run. I hope it will be enough this time with City being without Rodri.
Are the fans allowed to speak out whilst being "patient"?
Clubs that have had two close consecutive second place finish to a premier league juggernaut like Guardiola's man city should never have the tepid summer we had.
We strategically botched last summer transfer in spending outlay and the targets we chose to seek.
You're talking to the most patient fan base in the world Habesha, more than 10 years without a trophy and still had a gazillion gooners who wanted the manager to keep his job.
You read some of the comments and you feel we will get the same type of support for the manager for the same length of time
I agree we've been quite unlucky with injuries this season but we were never going to be as lucky as we were last season with them which was why the summer was the best time to properly shore up the squad, doesn't feel like we did hence the not so great performances and mixed results.
Our only hope feels like it'll be to if City aren't really motivated inn another title tilt and Liverpool run out of gas as it feels they will with that performance against Chelsea
I am not talking about patience in regards to winning silverware. I am talking about patience about fluidity and wanting better football.
There are no excuses this season. We must win the league. But interms of playing fluid football, people need to calm down. We are still getting results apart from the shocker at the weekend vs Bournemouth.
And I am not on this hype train for other teams. We have had one of the most difficult runs along with injuries. We have lost 1 game. There needs to be balance with criticism.
Yea the patience thing also applies to that as well, Arsenal fans are still patient and will be as well for as long as it leads to trophies which is an absolute must this season
Read will you. I said at the start of the season, the league is a must. We have to win the league. There is 0 excuses.
But wanting a fluid dynamic football when we have some of our best attacking players out. I agree their have been some performances that have been poor. But what matters is results right now till we get players back.
Yea that summer business looks like it'll be our undoing this season, only way it doesn't is if the players coming back magically stay fit till the end of the season.
I'll leave you in the puddle of your own making, if you think my stances have been pro-club establishment.
I think Arteta has been a good manager but hasn't been restrained by the club properly. They've let him stack the shelves with the same type of produce, without enough variety. The balance between manager and DoF is far too tilted to Arteta.
Our transfer policy has been to give Artea what he wants, not what he needs. That's why we have 6 left FBs in the squad and no back up for Odegaard.
Contrast it with a club that has a great Director of football, like Villa have in Monchi. You can see the balance they have in the squad.
The manager is supposed to get what he needs, not what he wants
Emery is not the one that signed Rodgers from Boro for 15 million or Jhon Doran from the MLS for 18 million ...IT WAS MONCHI. The manager deals with today, the tech director is thinking two steps ahead.
There's no way any director of football would have constructed a side like ours, it's the manager's wants that they gratified.
Even the best managers need to be saved from themselves, Arsenal have tilted the power too much in the manager's favor.
I was at the shaktar game it's the worst I have seen us play in a looong time. Please play Nwaneri he can't be worse than what's was out there the other night. We may even create something
Seems the Barca academy has spurn out a bunch of good players this time around, they all looked very assured against a very good Bayern team
I don't know if anyone has mentioned this: Over half of Barcelona's starting XI is 21 or under. Six players; Four 21 year olds and two 17 year olds.
A 17 year old centre back and a 21 year old left back. All 3 in midfield are 21. But, Arteta is scared shitless to play a very ready Nwaneri.
And they are playing very well against Bayern.
""""That was a dreadful performance against Shaktar. Complacent, sloppy, fatigued, uninspired. Lucky to escape with three points""""
I don’t understand this with Jack going to Norwich as a first team coach? If he was gonna be the head man then I’d understand
Has anyone listened to the Pod
Johnny Cochran with his pointy cruella Seville girly shoulders crying and whining non stop
Man up you pansie
And sit up straight and out your shoulders down
Look at Matt and Pete
You’re an actor and your body language is atrocious
You convey pure soy consumption
Whining about how we got away with Muffet injury wise last year
We lost 4 starting players for almost a year
Jesus
Parted
Martin Eli
And timber
How is that getting away with murder
Let with lose their starting 9 LW holding mid and defensive Swiss Army knife for a season and see what’s getting away with murder
When you factor in the refereeing…
Sit down you little hamster faced weasel and stop whining
Also
Level up your voice a couple of octaves. You sound like a mouse
Squad assembly is as important a characteristic as in- game management, tactics, formation, substitutions etc. However, it's regarded here as less important. Arteta does not seem to learn. Three seasons ago he quite rightly discarded misfits and those whom he did not like, which is his prerogative. For example, players sold or loaned out included Mustafi, Sokratis, Torreira, Guendouzi, AIM, Kolasinac etc. However, squad numbers were not replaced and by the end of that season, a "4th place trophy" we should have easily have secured disappeared as injuries, poor form took over and we lacked numbers, let alone quality in the run-in. This was ridiculous and negligent. This pre-season, Arteta had the opportunity to further improve the squad and build on two seasons' 2nd place. What does he do, get rid of Smith-Rowe, Nelson, Nketiah, which we can all understand to some extent. However, he then buys yet another defender and defensive midfielder in Calafiori and Merino and loans in the has-been, Sterling. Where is the balance? We have no-one to understudy Saka or Odegaard,refuses to play Nwaneri and picks another has-been, Jesus, to play and as a captain last night! This follows the highly creative midfield of Rice, Partey and Merino against the mighty Bournemouth. Arteta has not given the club the best chance of success this season and his risk averse and safety first tactics will be found out against better clubs going forward.
All I understood from this post is why did we not spend more money? What if this is all the money we were allowed to spend?
The choices we made with the money we had have to be scrutinized when you consider what needs were more dire.
I think Rice's transfer looms over our budget and our needs still have to be heavily adjusted according to West Ham's tough conditions aka paying the lump sum of the transfer in the first couple of years.
We did spend money this past summer, just on the wrong profile of players, doesn't have much to do with Rice fee
I wonder how badly our finances were affected by Arteta decision to sign Ramsdale as our No 1 and then change his mind four months later to sign another No 1 that we couldn't afford, had to do loan deal for a season before purchase, and club lost £££ on Ramsdale sale this summer.
Rice's transfer is the one affecting us by far the most. Like it's not even close.
How do you know how much we have to spend or not spend? Spending £80m+ on the defence and defensive midfield, plus another youth keeper was hardly priority was it? In four years, Arteta has not managed to find anybody, internally or elsewhere who can adequaely fill in or help to rotate Saka and Odegaard.
Who's that adequate replacement for say Salah and Haaland? Asking for a friend.
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🚨 Understand Bukayo Saka is expected to be available for the upcoming match against Liverpool, having trained, pending any last-minute changes or niggles, meanwhile Riccardo Calafiori is set to undergo a crucial scan scheduled for today.
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If Saka and Timber make it, we'll be so back.
Chelsea (1.06) 0-2 (1.18) City
City (1.55) 2-1 (1.05) Brentford
Newcastle (1.34) 1-1 (1.27) City
City (1.37) 3-2 (2.76) Fulham
Wolves (0.76) 1-2 (1.37) City
We are flaming Arsenal while City have been getting away with it.
I saw a table on twitter that shows the xG for and xG against only while teams were 11v11. The Arsenal some love to flame have the highest xG for and the lowest xG against. Shocking for some, I know.
We'll go back to our best from the games against City, Leicester and PSG. We just need to get a couple of bodies back - mainly Saka, and be a bit smarter to avoid getting red carded. If we were 11v11 we would have been 1st on the table and not by a point either.
City drew in the last minute against us and a few days ago scored a winner in the last second. If the goals in the last second didn't go in, we'd be talking about a crises there but since they did all is fine? I'm more interested in the other 94 minutes of the games and especially when it's 11v11 cause surely this avalanche of red cards coming our way will stop soon. Surely...
In other words we have players with lower than average finishing ability
I saw a table where Eddie currently averages 0.2xG per 90 mins played in the PL. 👀
For the record, I am not of the same opinion as Pedro saying we win the league after pep leaves. This year is a must for me. It is essential we win it. Otherwise we will be in danger of losing our best players.
But I am not mad at the fact that we aren't as smooth as we could be about our football. There is context to it. We aren't playing at our best but we have deserved to win most of our games, and we have. Performances will improve.
That is what sort of patience I am talking about. Yeah the football isn't as good as it could be but there are factors attached to it. And I am of the opinion that Arteta will get it right. Our fixtures are fairly spread out to our advantage. We have 2 hard games at times but we have already passed the hardest fixture runs of our season with Villa, Spurs and City away. After our next batch of fixtures involving Newcastle and Inter and Chelsea, we have a smoother ride than our challengers.
And the league will be close contested. And I haven't completely written off our signings. I think Merino will come good and we have already seen what Calafiori offers us. Sterling has been poor. But I am not completely writing him off for now either.
The mood will be different if we win on Sunday against Liverpool. And I believe we will
Do you think Guardiola rushes Merino in to the starting 11, if the shoe were on the other foot?
My take is that he wouldn't. He does that to many of his signings, even Gvardiol. He makes them wait until they get the pulse of the team.
Arteta is going to have to choose two of Partey, Rice and Merino. He can't play any two away from their best position to jam in the third.
Also, injuries are part of football
So why is it that we cleared the deck of attacking players who were backup but did not replace them in the window?
It was criminal negligence to enter the last hours of the window without a striking option, that we were willing to take the chance stands as an indictment.
The squad is too tilted towards defense, that's why we have only two players creative players in the entire squad.
There's also news going around that Guardiola has agreed to extend his city contract by one season.
Pedro and his ridiculous theory of Arsenal waiting for Guardiola to depart before taking over, looking more stupid by the day.
"Jack Wilshere is leaving his role as Under-18s head coach to join Norwich City as a first-team coach.
Our former midfielder Jack rejoined us in July 2022 as Under-18s head coach and made an immediate impact, leading the team to the FA Youth Cup Final in his first full season in charge. Since returning to the club, Jack, who himself developed through our academy before making 197 senior appearances for the club, has been an influential figure for our young players at what is a crucial stage of their careers."
https://www.arsenal.com/news/jack-wilshere-joins-norwich-city
Fans really need to be patient as long as we aren't miles behind Liverpool and City. It was the same last season. It took us a bit of time to find the fluidity to play fantastic football. We have been ravaged by injuries, and are trying a lot of different combinations so far this season. The midfield has had no continuity, the defense has had multiple injuries and even in forward lines we have missed some players at times. I think we will beat Liverpool. And I think we will be in touching distance by January. And when we find our groove, we will be unstoppable and we will go on a mad run. I hope it will be enough this time with City being without Rodri.
Are the fans allowed to speak out whilst being "patient"?
Clubs that have had two close consecutive second place finish to a premier league juggernaut like Guardiola's man city should never have the tepid summer we had.
We strategically botched last summer transfer in spending outlay and the targets we chose to seek.
You're talking to the most patient fan base in the world Habesha, more than 10 years without a trophy and still had a gazillion gooners who wanted the manager to keep his job.
You read some of the comments and you feel we will get the same type of support for the manager for the same length of time
I agree we've been quite unlucky with injuries this season but we were never going to be as lucky as we were last season with them which was why the summer was the best time to properly shore up the squad, doesn't feel like we did hence the not so great performances and mixed results.
Our only hope feels like it'll be to if City aren't really motivated inn another title tilt and Liverpool run out of gas as it feels they will with that performance against Chelsea
I am not talking about patience in regards to winning silverware. I am talking about patience about fluidity and wanting better football.
There are no excuses this season. We must win the league. But interms of playing fluid football, people need to calm down. We are still getting results apart from the shocker at the weekend vs Bournemouth.
And I am not on this hype train for other teams. We have had one of the most difficult runs along with injuries. We have lost 1 game. There needs to be balance with criticism.
Yea the patience thing also applies to that as well, Arsenal fans are still patient and will be as well for as long as it leads to trophies which is an absolute must this season
Don't mind him
20 years without a league trophy and still behaving like a good boy.
We've come close but we didn't do enough in the summer to give us a great chance of getting over the line.
Read will you. I said at the start of the season, the league is a must. We have to win the league. There is 0 excuses.
But wanting a fluid dynamic football when we have some of our best attacking players out. I agree their have been some performances that have been poor. But what matters is results right now till we get players back.
Yea that summer business looks like it'll be our undoing this season, only way it doesn't is if the players coming back magically stay fit till the end of the season.
I'll leave you in the puddle of your own making, if you think my stances have been pro-club establishment.
I think Arteta has been a good manager but hasn't been restrained by the club properly. They've let him stack the shelves with the same type of produce, without enough variety. The balance between manager and DoF is far too tilted to Arteta.
Our transfer policy has been to give Artea what he wants, not what he needs. That's why we have 6 left FBs in the squad and no back up for Odegaard.
Contrast it with a club that has a great Director of football, like Villa have in Monchi. You can see the balance they have in the squad.
There's a difference and distinction
The manager is supposed to get what he needs, not what he wants
Emery is not the one that signed Rodgers from Boro for 15 million or Jhon Doran from the MLS for 18 million ...IT WAS MONCHI. The manager deals with today, the tech director is thinking two steps ahead.
There's no way any director of football would have constructed a side like ours, it's the manager's wants that they gratified.
Even the best managers need to be saved from themselves, Arsenal have tilted the power too much in the manager's favor.
🥱 again.change the record.
🥱again.
I honestly don't want to debate with children.