The moment the news of Partey suffering a knock against Brentford dropped, the imbeciles started to post bullshit how it's always the same when his team is about to play in Spain and how he can't go there cause of that other issue.
Same imbeciles are unaware he already traveled to Spain, 3 months ago, against Girona and he even won the penalty for our 1st goal. Quick to jump on the hate bandwagon without putting in the basic effort to know a little bit more before talking embarrassing themselves.
That's the average football fan btw. And they will never believe you when you tell them how wrong they are.
Partey's been available and great this season. If, as seems very likely, he is not with us next season, I'm sure I won't feel nostalgic about him being played as a stop gap RB.
That is good news, it's frustrating that Cala and Jorgi did not train today. It shocking how much of the season Cala has missed due to injuries, we were discussing this potential issue here last summer, but Arsenal decided to go ahead with purchase anyways.
And if he hadn't played at RB, or at all, what's the worst that could have happened? A loss by a goal or two to Brentford? A single point dropped on the table? The end of the world I assume.
Meanwhile, one of our most important players that has played way more football this season than in his recent seasons and is in his 30s, was that close to getting injured and missing our most important game in almost 20 years. Fk me Hab, you were right!
I was right. You just complained about a whole bunch of nothing. A bunch of "if's" that didn't happen. Partey was fine. He didn't play against Everton the previous week.
And the fact that you think losing to Brentford at home didn't matter is all I need to know about your bad opinions. Every game matters. Some less than others. But it still does. You can rotate but you can't play random kids that aren't ready or players that can't do the job in those positions. The players that come in have to be of the required level to do it.
It’s extremely poor risk management and very, very naive. I could easily see fan sentiment turning against Arteta if Partey had been injured and unavailable for Madrid, and we lost the tie.
He didn't play the previous week. He rested him for the most important home game and we won 3 nil. He wouldn't have played him against Brentford either had Ben White been available.
The risk was play a fit partey or a struggling timber.
Or the option of another formation that didn’t utilise either Partey or Timber? Possible or not ,I don’t know ?If it was.It was an unnecessary risk lets face it.
This is the first argument that has been decent so far. A formation change might actually work. You would need to play Zinchenko LWB and may be Sterling as RWB to pull it off last saturday.
I'm sure they'll be very conscious of our young attacking players and their opportunities, when it comes to recruitment. If Dowman is as good as everybody says he is, with Nwaneri as well, that's two left footed attacking talents right there. Nypan is also a left footed attacking midfielder. With Odegaard and Havertz also in our ranks, I'd hope that a right footer might be targeted instead.
Not really cause the latest rumor is we're interested in signing Atletico Mineiro’s 15y/o left-footed RW Gabriel Veneno for £12m.
Also, fuck Nypan. Always hated that kid. An 18 yo European CM so highly rated that he'll be cheaper than a 15 yo Brazilian child.
We've got MLS and Nwaneri, who if they were on the market tomorrow, would fetch us ~£50m each. But you know, there's a Norwegian teenager, 3 months younger than MLS and 4 months older than Nwaneri that has been visiting about 138 clubs and instead of going on trials, he's trialing the clubs he's visited. He's a spoiled brat going around picking the club he'll play for. He ain't that good.
He's worth peanuts compared to any top talent out there. You know why? Cause he would be a lower fee punt than even Lokonga. Not everyone can do a Martinelli. Top talent is way more expensive.
Estevao Willian, who joined Chavs last summer, aged 17, for £29m up to £55m with add-ons. That's the rate of a top, top talent. Same way an 18 yo Saliba joined us for £27m.
£10m Nypan is not a big loss. If we really, really wanted him, he would have either joined us already, or he'd be arranged to join first thing in the summer. He isn't and I'm even glad we passed on him.
Spending £50m on a 15 year old is more reasonable developing our own youth team talents? How much did Madrid splashed on your nightmare odegaard when he was 15? And how did that turn out? In the past decade mentioned any teenage potential that cost millions that went on to fulfill their hype. Only the talents that came from the youth teams for free like saka, Yamal, pedri, Williams and several other barca products. Why isn't it more reasonable to focus on our own academy talents than chasing shadows around the world.
So my thinking is unreasonable based on a rumour about us signing a 15-year old Brazilian left footer? A player who would unlikely to join us for a couple of years at least.
Obviously if a player is a real talent it who cares what foot he favours but that rumour....
We've been quite idiotic with our acquisitions in terms of - let's play a right-footed CB/RB Timber at LB, let's play a right-footed CB/RB Tomiyasu at LB. Let's play a #6 at RB (Partey), let's play a #6 at #8 (Rice), a #8 at #10 (Ode), a winger at CF (Trossard), a winger at CF (Jesus), a #8 at #9 (Merino), although the last wasn't by choice.
I like the whole versatility idea but I would like us to get a couple of specialists now. I'm over player the do-it-all Swiss army knives. Get players who've done it in that position or players that are universally accepted as top talents.
Reports Nypan or whatever his name is wants to go to Villa
Fine with me
I’ve only seen YouTube comps of him but haven’t seen anything particularly special in those. Arsenal only need ceiling raisers, not floor raisers this summer
A starting CF, a starting LW, a starting CM. Only GK position needs a bencher player (should be cheaper not that espanyol guy if he’s over 20m)
We have plenty of young players and a good academy. Players like Nypan don’t look like the sort to drag us to the league next season which is the TOP priority. If we sign the ceiling raisers and somehow have money to spare, by all means we can do some squaddies and prospects - but Arsenal have to focus solely on the top priority positions and players and not waste weeks and months haggling over players who are frankly not key to our plans for winning the title in the coming season.
No way Eddie really improves us. Still think Merino has done a better job than Eddie, he has Been awful at palace and has hardly featured. ESR too much of a moments player unfortunately. Has been very disappointing for Fulham
What point are you trying to make? In a season when we lost the title to Liverpool due to injuries to our attacking players, you are talking of good business. How much did we make in the business that worth more than a title? In a season when we played trossard and merino in #10 when odegaard was injured and we are playing merino as our striker currently, what's good about the business?
ESR has 5 goals from 34 in an average team he newly joined odegaard has 5 goals for 37 in a team where he is the captain and everything goes through him. We sold nketiah and kept Jesus, nketiah has 5 goals from his 10 minutes cameos and Jesus has 3 goals all from a freak hattrik. How well do you think Jesus will do playing for palace or odegaard playing for Fulham? And I don't even care about that, but what I know is that if we have kept them, they would have assisted us a lot this season in the title race. Football for a club like us shouldn't only be about business. We need trophies and titles.
He literally had to choose between Timber and Partey. Your stupid idea of putting in a kid in the starting XI who isn't even PL level yet is what is funny.
Even if he misses Wednesday, it won't matter. We need to get the job done regardless. We are 3 nil up.
You just love to whine don't you. Whine, whine whine.
Nah, Nope, No, Arteta could have played MLS on that side, Zinc on that side or even Martinelli in a pinch. He had options, but reverted to form and f'd up.
If somehow Partey can't play, and AFC somehow do not score a goal, and ship 4, it will be down to the coach mate-full stop!
MLS was also in a red zone. He has been playing non stop. Including the 2 England games which he played 90 minutes in. I didn't think he should have even got on to the pitch. Zinchenko was used to rest Odegaard.
It isn't a huge ask. We are 3 nil up. We don't need to be expressive. Partey is good at breaking lines to get our attackers in good spaces. We can play a different game with Merino at CM and Rice at #6. Close off the spaces and try to counter. There will be no excuses not to ho through, even without him.
they are but we are more than capable of conceding less than 3 goals against every team. just be calm, if for any reason mbappe or vini get through in the first half don’t foul them and go down to 10
Yeah it’s hard to say if the baby situation is the cause of Ode going off a cliff but it’s certainly correlates with the timing
The drop off has been stark.
Worse than a lack of quality, he’s lost his bravery to play positively which is far more worrying.
Say what you want about Martinelli (I certainly have this season) but the guy sprints for 90 mins without letting up day after day and constantly puts himself on the end of chances he (due to a lack of confidence) is probably going to miss
I’ve seen ode on the other hand drift quietly behind players like peak banter years Ozil trying NOT to be passed to when we were trying to break in a dangerous position
Happen a few games ago and I was shocked to see it. 2019 Ozil memories give me PTSD ffs
Yeah it’s hard to say if the baby situation is the cause of Ode going off a cliff but it’s certainly correlates with the timing
The drop off has been stark.
Worse than a lack of quality, he’s lost his bravery to play positively which is far more worrying.
Say what you want about Martinelli (I certainly have this season) but the guy sprints for 90 mins without letting up day after day and constantly puts himself on the end of chances he (due to a lack of confidence) is probably going to miss
I’ve seen ode on the other hand drift quietly behind players like peak banter years Ozil trying NOT to be passed to when we were trying to break in a dangerous position
Happen a few games ago and I was shocked to see it. 2019 Ozil memories give me PTSD ffs
15 out of 32 league matches we have scored less than two goals.
57 goals in 32 games. How many from open play? It is imperative we sign a CM who can be an 8/10, a #10 who can play wide forward, a wide forward and a #9.
Keeping powder dry, market opportunity and waiting for a specific target? A lot of those things will fall on deaf ears this summer.
The club don't like to be put a position where they have to deliver and instead prefer to play the long game. Media will ramp up pressure big time too
If you keep.posting. sentences.like these please.invest.in a braille keypad.
The moment the news of Partey suffering a knock against Brentford dropped, the imbeciles started to post bullshit how it's always the same when his team is about to play in Spain and how he can't go there cause of that other issue.
Same imbeciles are unaware he already traveled to Spain, 3 months ago, against Girona and he even won the penalty for our 1st goal. Quick to jump on the hate bandwagon without putting in the basic effort to know a little bit more before talking embarrassing themselves.
That's the average football fan btw. And they will never believe you when you tell them how wrong they are.
Partey's been available and great this season. If, as seems very likely, he is not with us next season, I'm sure I won't feel nostalgic about him being played as a stop gap RB.
Tomiyasu's absence has been an issue!
Partey and Ben White trained. The amount of people crying on here because Arteta was forced to play him at RB on Saturday was hilarious.
As you know by now Habesha,bedwetting is par for the course on here.
Starting Partey was a bad decision. I won't change my opinion on that.
Forced or not, if we're moving a DM to RB, surely we could have figured something out from the available players.
Hab is even the biggest moaner about Partey at RB and how we've suffered for it, now it turns out there is never another way?
Yes, our RBs were injured, so what? It's not like Partey is a RB either.
The Arteta outs think I'm supportive of every Arteta decision. Except I'm not. Another proof of that.
That is good news, it's frustrating that Cala and Jorgi did not train today. It shocking how much of the season Cala has missed due to injuries, we were discussing this potential issue here last summer, but Arsenal decided to go ahead with purchase anyways.
Assuming we advance to the semis and the ‘need’ arises again do you play Partey at RB vs Ipswich away on the 20th nine days before first leg vs PSG?
No, White is fit today. So he will play, like he would have against Brentford.
You dodged the question.
Well done.
I’d play the tea lady at RB in the league before Partey in the run up to semis vs PSG.
Leave ‘ Doris ‘ out of this Tom.Shes busy either the packed lunches for Madrid.
Are you trying to start a riot Tom? Cough,cough.
I think that Partey should play RB against Ipswich if only for the benefit of stoking the stream action on here!
If that happened and he pulled a hemi this site would explode.
Meanwhile Habesha would claim a win stating we always needed a more durable Partey option.
'Pulling a hemi' sounds a bit rude!
And if he hadn't played at RB, or at all, what's the worst that could have happened? A loss by a goal or two to Brentford? A single point dropped on the table? The end of the world I assume.
Meanwhile, one of our most important players that has played way more football this season than in his recent seasons and is in his 30s, was that close to getting injured and missing our most important game in almost 20 years. Fk me Hab, you were right!
I was right. You just complained about a whole bunch of nothing. A bunch of "if's" that didn't happen. Partey was fine. He didn't play against Everton the previous week.
And the fact that you think losing to Brentford at home didn't matter is all I need to know about your bad opinions. Every game matters. Some less than others. But it still does. You can rotate but you can't play random kids that aren't ready or players that can't do the job in those positions. The players that come in have to be of the required level to do it.
It’s extremely poor risk management and very, very naive. I could easily see fan sentiment turning against Arteta if Partey had been injured and unavailable for Madrid, and we lost the tie.
Mikel is playing with fire.
risk management
He didn't play the previous week. He rested him for the most important home game and we won 3 nil. He wouldn't have played him against Brentford either had Ben White been available.
The risk was play a fit partey or a struggling timber.
Or the option of another formation that didn’t utilise either Partey or Timber? Possible or not ,I don’t know ?If it was.It was an unnecessary risk lets face it.
This is the first argument that has been decent so far. A formation change might actually work. You would need to play Zinchenko LWB and may be Sterling as RWB to pull it off last saturday.
I'm sure they'll be very conscious of our young attacking players and their opportunities, when it comes to recruitment. If Dowman is as good as everybody says he is, with Nwaneri as well, that's two left footed attacking talents right there. Nypan is also a left footed attacking midfielder. With Odegaard and Havertz also in our ranks, I'd hope that a right footer might be targeted instead.
Is my thinking reasonable?
Your thinking is always reasonable Bob.
That’s probably why Marko says you never say anything useful
Meaning controversial I assume.
I'm liking you more and more Tom!
"Is my thinking reasonable?"
Not really cause the latest rumor is we're interested in signing Atletico Mineiro’s 15y/o left-footed RW Gabriel Veneno for £12m.
Also, fuck Nypan. Always hated that kid. An 18 yo European CM so highly rated that he'll be cheaper than a 15 yo Brazilian child.
We've got MLS and Nwaneri, who if they were on the market tomorrow, would fetch us ~£50m each. But you know, there's a Norwegian teenager, 3 months younger than MLS and 4 months older than Nwaneri that has been visiting about 138 clubs and instead of going on trials, he's trialing the clubs he's visited. He's a spoiled brat going around picking the club he'll play for. He ain't that good.
He's worth peanuts compared to any top talent out there. You know why? Cause he would be a lower fee punt than even Lokonga. Not everyone can do a Martinelli. Top talent is way more expensive.
Estevao Willian, who joined Chavs last summer, aged 17, for £29m up to £55m with add-ons. That's the rate of a top, top talent. Same way an 18 yo Saliba joined us for £27m.
£10m Nypan is not a big loss. If we really, really wanted him, he would have either joined us already, or he'd be arranged to join first thing in the summer. He isn't and I'm even glad we passed on him.
Spending £50m on a 15 year old is more reasonable developing our own youth team talents? How much did Madrid splashed on your nightmare odegaard when he was 15? And how did that turn out? In the past decade mentioned any teenage potential that cost millions that went on to fulfill their hype. Only the talents that came from the youth teams for free like saka, Yamal, pedri, Williams and several other barca products. Why isn't it more reasonable to focus on our own academy talents than chasing shadows around the world.
"In the past decade mentioned any teenage potential that cost millions that went on to fulfill their hype."
There are so many.
Mention them
We can do both.
So my thinking is unreasonable based on a rumour about us signing a 15-year old Brazilian left footer? A player who would unlikely to join us for a couple of years at least.
Obviously if a player is a real talent it who cares what foot he favours but that rumour....
It was more of a "apparently not".
We've been quite idiotic with our acquisitions in terms of - let's play a right-footed CB/RB Timber at LB, let's play a right-footed CB/RB Tomiyasu at LB. Let's play a #6 at RB (Partey), let's play a #6 at #8 (Rice), a #8 at #10 (Ode), a winger at CF (Trossard), a winger at CF (Jesus), a #8 at #9 (Merino), although the last wasn't by choice.
I like the whole versatility idea but I would like us to get a couple of specialists now. I'm over player the do-it-all Swiss army knives. Get players who've done it in that position or players that are universally accepted as top talents.
what happened to those two footed guys like santi
I would love to have those, totally unpredictable
Agreed.Oven ready.piping hot only.No appetizers.Thankyou.
Reports Nypan or whatever his name is wants to go to Villa
Fine with me
I’ve only seen YouTube comps of him but haven’t seen anything particularly special in those. Arsenal only need ceiling raisers, not floor raisers this summer
A starting CF, a starting LW, a starting CM. Only GK position needs a bencher player (should be cheaper not that espanyol guy if he’s over 20m)
We have plenty of young players and a good academy. Players like Nypan don’t look like the sort to drag us to the league next season which is the TOP priority. If we sign the ceiling raisers and somehow have money to spare, by all means we can do some squaddies and prospects - but Arsenal have to focus solely on the top priority positions and players and not waste weeks and months haggling over players who are frankly not key to our plans for winning the title in the coming season.
We shouldn't do the sour grapes thing. The lad is highly rated.
His choice of Villa over city and Arsenal is the work of Monchi, rather than Unai Emery.
It goes to show how shambolic our January business was, Jason. Ayto was in over his head and I’m so glad the club brought in a new sporting director.
The Norwegian lad is an #8, a position that we have MLS , well positioned to fill.
Eddie and ESR haven’t set the world alight since their Arsenal departure.
Good transfer business
No way Eddie really improves us. Still think Merino has done a better job than Eddie, he has Been awful at palace and has hardly featured. ESR too much of a moments player unfortunately. Has been very disappointing for Fulham
What point are you trying to make? In a season when we lost the title to Liverpool due to injuries to our attacking players, you are talking of good business. How much did we make in the business that worth more than a title? In a season when we played trossard and merino in #10 when odegaard was injured and we are playing merino as our striker currently, what's good about the business?
ESR has 5 goals from 34 in an average team he newly joined odegaard has 5 goals for 37 in a team where he is the captain and everything goes through him. We sold nketiah and kept Jesus, nketiah has 5 goals from his 10 minutes cameos and Jesus has 3 goals all from a freak hattrik. How well do you think Jesus will do playing for palace or odegaard playing for Fulham? And I don't even care about that, but what I know is that if we have kept them, they would have assisted us a lot this season in the title race. Football for a club like us shouldn't only be about business. We need trophies and titles.
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Thomas Partey suffered a knock against Brentford and is being assessed but Arsenal hope he will be fit to face Real Madrid on Wednesday.
Where's that dumb fuck hab who simply had to argue that we had no other choice than to start Partey RB against Brentford. This fucking fanbase I swear
Whiny Marko at it again.
He literally had to choose between Timber and Partey. Your stupid idea of putting in a kid in the starting XI who isn't even PL level yet is what is funny.
Even if he misses Wednesday, it won't matter. We need to get the job done regardless. We are 3 nil up.
You just love to whine don't you. Whine, whine whine.
Little pansie got his knickers in a twist again
How embarrassing
Now is the 18 year old really not ready or is the manager so piss shit bad at rotating his squad?
The kid isn't ready. He looked flustered and out of his depth at times against Bolton FFS. And he played because it was Bolton in the league cup.
Nah, Nope, No, Arteta could have played MLS on that side, Zinc on that side or even Martinelli in a pinch. He had options, but reverted to form and f'd up.
If somehow Partey can't play, and AFC somehow do not score a goal, and ship 4, it will be down to the coach mate-full stop!
MLS was also in a red zone. He has been playing non stop. Including the 2 England games which he played 90 minutes in. I didn't think he should have even got on to the pitch. Zinchenko was used to rest Odegaard.
Dont be too confident with 3 up. Madrid are capable
I am confident in us to see it out, Partey or no Partey. We have Rice, Merino and Zinchenko to choose from in midfield at the very least.
The mission is clear score a goal or concede 2 or less.
That is my point. Not that Madrid aren't capable.
Without Partey in the middle that is a huge ask!
It isn't a huge ask. We are 3 nil up. We don't need to be expressive. Partey is good at breaking lines to get our attackers in good spaces. We can play a different game with Merino at CM and Rice at #6. Close off the spaces and try to counter. There will be no excuses not to ho through, even without him.
they are but we are more than capable of conceding less than 3 goals against every team. just be calm, if for any reason mbappe or vini get through in the first half don’t foul them and go down to 10
stupid things aside we should be fine
gotta keep Mbappe quiet is the key for me.
Yeah it’s hard to say if the baby situation is the cause of Ode going off a cliff but it’s certainly correlates with the timing
The drop off has been stark.
Worse than a lack of quality, he’s lost his bravery to play positively which is far more worrying.
Say what you want about Martinelli (I certainly have this season) but the guy sprints for 90 mins without letting up day after day and constantly puts himself on the end of chances he (due to a lack of confidence) is probably going to miss
I’ve seen ode on the other hand drift quietly behind players like peak banter years Ozil trying NOT to be passed to when we were trying to break in a dangerous position
Happen a few games ago and I was shocked to see it. 2019 Ozil memories give me PTSD ffs
Yeah it’s hard to say if the baby situation is the cause of Ode going off a cliff but it’s certainly correlates with the timing
The drop off has been stark.
Worse than a lack of quality, he’s lost his bravery to play positively which is far more worrying.
Say what you want about Martinelli (I certainly have this season) but the guy sprints for 90 mins without letting up day after day and constantly puts himself on the end of chances he (due to a lack of confidence) is probably going to miss
I’ve seen ode on the other hand drift quietly behind players like peak banter years Ozil trying NOT to be passed to when we were trying to break in a dangerous position
Happen a few games ago and I was shocked to see it. 2019 Ozil memories give me PTSD ffs
What a delicious week we have in store people. We could get a semi on Wednesday and then watch the Spuds go all limp out of Europe on Thursday.
I’m already rocking a semi! Lol
A Saliba winning goal on Wednesday is very much needed
15 out of 32 league matches we have scored less than two goals.
57 goals in 32 games. How many from open play? It is imperative we sign a CM who can be an 8/10, a #10 who can play wide forward, a wide forward and a #9.
Keeping powder dry, market opportunity and waiting for a specific target? A lot of those things will fall on deaf ears this summer.
The club don't like to be put a position where they have to deliver and instead prefer to play the long game. Media will ramp up pressure big time too
Man City have strong interest Tijani Reijnders for 60-65m euro range. Quality midfielder with an eye for goal.
Believe he scored in Milan's 3-1 win at the Bernabeu in the group stage
Next season.up top.We need the ‘ real deal’ no half baked punts.Oven ready.piping hot.And ready to serve.