I have only been following Arsenal and the PL for a few years so I do not know the history. Why do people say Arsenal is hated more than anyone else might hate a rival?
As far as the refereeing, I blame VAR more than the referee on the field. MLS was beat on that play so even though I think it was a 50/50 if you want to call the foul okay…
I have only been following Arsenal and the PL for a few years so I do not know the history. Why do people say Arsenal is hated more than anyone else might hate a rival?
As far as the refereeing, I blame VAR more than the referee on the field. MLS was beat on that play so even though I think it was a 50/50 if you want to call the foul okay, but VAR can see it started before the penalty box. Is that not the rule? Is it not the whole point of VAR is to be able to have time to take a proper look?
I suspect, Manchester United and Chelsea are 'hated' more than Arsenal.
The problem with VAR is that the officials are usually mates of the ref on the pitch and are supportive of him. The system should always be about getting the right decision and at the moment it fails to do that. The idea that it should be a 'clear and obvious ' error to overturn a decision made in a split second without the benefit of replays from different angles and slow motion, is ridiculous.
I would argue as a matter of course, if a penalty decision is tight, the referee should ALWAYS go to the monitor. Then, just like in rugby, we should hear the conversation between VAR and the ref, talking through how they see it and agree a decision based on the TV pictures and NOT based on the original on field decision. The pictures should also be seen in the ground.
With the lack of transparency, the grey area of 'clear and obvious' and the sense that the VAR official is somehow being disloyal to question the on field decision, it makes it all about the ref and not all about getting the right decision. PGMOL needs to be broken up as it is run like a Northern cabal where refs are pathetically defensive and not putting the game first.
I could go on as various rules should be simplified to make the refs job easier but I'll stop!
I am played rugby a little bit, but don’t follow it so I don’t know how VAR works.
In American football the coaches are limited to a couple of challenges so it does not slow the game down, but the referee does walk over to the monitor.
I don’t want the game to slow down anymore that it has (I mean goals can not even be enjoyed anymore), but on game changing calls is it too much to ask for the referee to run to the monitor real quick? I get not wanting to call out your mate, so just let them get a second look. It’s impossible to see everything all the time.
Oh, and VAR should be able to rule on blatant fouls when the referee’s back is turned. Like blocking Raya yesterday and that BS karate chop Guimaraes did in the middle of the field a few years ago. No matter how good he is, I think he crosses the line, is a dirty player, and hope he never plays for us.
Trey I can help you with that mate it's a victim mentality thing. During the Wenger years there was a particular group of fans and a couple blogs that were pushing the PGMOL and referee conspiracy theories when success dried up and we became stagnant. Now you have a similar situation after we haven't won anything the last couple seasons. It's basically an easy cop out to blame others than to look inwards.
I like Arteta and his passion. Watching the TV show about Arsenal was the reason I started following him. I think everyone can agree he has made some mistakes and he is still learning, but some fans take winning for granted. Imagine poor Everton fans. Their club may not be in the top money wise (I know paying for the stadium hinders them), but they are middle of the pack yet they have been fighting relegation for the past 3 or more years.
And plenty of teams in American football have never won anything and suck almost every year. I think we should be ecstatic about our performance this year. Thank goodness for our defense or we could be Spurs.
I have only been following Arsenal and the PL for a few years so I do not know the history. Why do people say Arsenal is hated more than anyone else might hate a rival?
As far as the refereeing, I blame VAR more than the referee on the field. MLS was beat on that play so even though I think it was a 50/50 if you want to call the foul okay, but VAR can see it started before the penalty box. Is that not the rule? Is it not the whole point of VAR is to be able to have time to take a proper look?
I suspect, Manchester United and Chelsea are 'hated' more than Arsenal.
The problem with VAR is that the officials are usually mates of the ref on the pitch and are supportive of him. The system should always be about getting the right decision and at the moment it fails to do that. The idea that it should be a 'clear and obvious ' error to overturn a decision made in a split second without the benefit of replays from different angles and slow motion, is ridiculous.
I would argue as a matter of course, if a penalty decision is tight, the referee should ALWAYS go to the monitor. Then, just like in rugby, we should hear the conversation between VAR and the ref, talking through how they see it and agree a decision based on the TV pictures and NOT based on the original on field decision. The pictures should also be seen in the ground.
With the lack of transparency, the grey area of 'clear and obvious' and the sense that the VAR official is somehow being disloyal to question the on field decision, it makes it all about the ref and not all about getting the right decision. PGMOL needs to be broken up as it is run like a Northern cabal where refs are pathetically defensive and not putting the game first.
I could go on as various rules should be simplified to make the refs job easier but I'll stop!
I am played rugby a little bit, but don’t follow it so I don’t know how VAR works.
In American football the coaches are limited to a couple of challenges so it does not slow the game down, but the referee does walk over to the monitor.
I don’t want the game to slow down anymore that it has (I mean goals can not even be enjoyed anymore), but on game changing calls is it too much to ask for the referee to run to the monitor real quick? I get not wanting to call out your mate, so just let them get a second look. It’s impossible to see everything all the time.
Oh, and VAR should be able to rule on blatant fouls when the referee’s back is turned. Like blocking Raya yesterday and that BS karate chop Guimaraes did in the middle of the field a few years ago. No matter how good he is, I think he crosses the line, is a dirty player, and hope he never plays for us.
Trey I can help you with that mate it's a victim mentality thing. During the Wenger years there was a particular group of fans and a couple blogs that were pushing the PGMOL and referee conspiracy theories when success dried up and we became stagnant. Now you have a similar situation after we haven't won anything the last couple seasons. It's basically an easy cop out to blame others than to look inwards.
Hahahahaha
Hahahahah
Victim mentality thing
Coming from you!!??
That is fucking irony at its finest
Tell us your pronouns again buttercup
Wrong.But I can’t be arsed to keep repeating the facts ad NauseumTheres more to life.
I like Arteta and his passion. Watching the TV show about Arsenal was the reason I started following him. I think everyone can agree he has made some mistakes and he is still learning, but some fans take winning for granted. Imagine poor Everton fans. Their club may not be in the top money wise (I know paying for the stadium hinders them), but they are middle of the pack yet they have been fighting relegation for the past 3 or more years.
And plenty of teams in American football have never won anything and suck almost every year. I think we should be ecstatic about our performance this year. Thank goodness for our defense or we could be Spurs.