[Dissenter]: We didn’t sign a striker partly because he discovered the £65 million player he signed as a left sided midfielder was better as a center forward. Then against Southampton, he decided that Havertz play behind Jesus.
The yellow for delaying a restart is just the latest EPL fad in a long list that includes clamping down on wrestling in the box at corners, non captains talking to refs, players asking for yellows or lobbying for a red, and pens for every instance of ball hitting a hand in the box.
It won’t last either , mostly because you can’t trust refs to apply the ruling uniformly.
It’s either a zero tolerance policy once the whistle had gone, or scrap it.
It has to be legal action at this point. Everything else will be ignored.
Compile statistics, highlight and breakdown the most egregious incidents, and bring in experts on unconscious bias. Force the PL to defend PGMOL in a court of law. Make PGMOL too much of a liability for FA & PL. Sunshine is the best disinfectant.
If someone winds up dead, we’ll know it was corruption instead of (or in addition to) bias.
Or simply scrap PGMOL as not fit for purpose.Proven to be inconsistent ( on a regular basis) with their decision making. & request UEFA to assist with refereees or set up a new Professional body answerable to the prem only?
'even if you could find a lawyer willing to represent you in a shit case like that"
It would be a laughable frivolous lawsuit but there won't be a shortage of legal firms billing 500/hr, with 10 man associates and para legal team, charging 5 bucks per xeroxed paper to process the case. They will probably try to schedule the suit for 2026 and bill 50,000 total hours until then.
Think everyone needs to move on from that game. Football is shit when Arsenal lose and I avoid as much of the negative BS as possible.
Tonight I’m off to the Shakhtar game and really looking forward to it. A win tonight puts us into serious contenders for top 8 and automatic entry to Round of 16.
Quiz - I got 10/11, should have been 11/11, but there was disagreement on how to spell a last name.
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Tonight's fixture against Shakhtar Donetsk will be the Ukrainian side's second trip to our pocket of north London, with the first coming back in the year 2000 when we edged out a thriller.
We recovered from going 2-0 behind to battle back and win 3-2, thanks to a pair of goals from an unlikely source in Martin Keown - but can you recall his other teammates that night?
I don’t think the game was on tv that night but I clearly recall listening to it on the radio. Was a great comeback and meant a lot because we had struggled and indeed failed to qualify from the group stages the previous two seasons.
I then went to the next CL game at Highbury against Lazio, in the days of their ‘super team’ and Ljungberg scored a brace. We won that and were as good as qualified.
Looking back we could have gone all the way that season in the CL with a bit more luck. We hammered Valencia at home in the quarter final in terms of chances but only won 2-1. We then went out on away goals. We would have had Leeds in the semi final and then faced the Bayern team who we were closely matched with (narrowly lost in group stage to them). It’s almost as big a regret as 03/04 when we probably should have at least got to the final.
"With the help of the AI-powered Opta supercomputer, we provide our UEFA Champions League match predictions for every game across 2024-25.
Arsenal didn’t concede a goal in their first two Champions League games this season, and they will be confident of recording a third clean sheet in a row at home to Shakhtar. They are the Opta supercomputer’s most confident pick on Tuesday, winning 81.3% of the 10,000 pre-match simulations. A win would be welcome ahead of a huge Premier League clash with Liverpool next weekend, especially after they suffered a shock domestic defeat at Bournemouth on Saturday."
Watched final minutes of the Cheaty game ...quite clearly the ref set his mind on gifting them the goal/ win, so fu*king obvious.... just as obvious when Var asked ther ref to go check replay on the monitor , I knew Saliba would be sent off. Fans bias and all. But it's go fu*king obvious. Btw, that iP**** nstitution wouldn't care less about undesired perception let's be honest
If Pedro had been so personally invested in an Arsenal manager in the Wenger era as he is now Legrove would’ve made Untold Arsenal look like a sane place.
In good ol’ Tony’s defense half the league and pundits made it obvious they disliked Wenger for trying to drag them from their backwater ways into the future.
Didn’t Souness say Wenger wasn’t a real football man or something like that, while the rest of the panel nodded?!?!
Whatever road block Arteta’s facing now is a fucking child’s play.
Waah, waah, Oliver went to UAE and then reffed our game.
Ferguson , that prick, had refs personal phone numbers on speed dial and publicly banned certain refs from doing games at OT.
[Dissenter]: We didn’t sign a striker partly because he discovered the £65 million player he signed as a left sided midfielder was better as a center forward. Then against Southampton, he decided that Havertz play behind Jesus.
100%.
A Arsenal fan moaning about blocking/interfering with the goal keeper on corner kicks
Nope Nope Nope
Not even David Brent or Donald Trump lacked self awareness or shame this much
corner kick FC 😀😀😀
Dear Pedro. Partey was our best player against Bournemouth. Just saying.
The yellow for delaying a restart is just the latest EPL fad in a long list that includes clamping down on wrestling in the box at corners, non captains talking to refs, players asking for yellows or lobbying for a red, and pens for every instance of ball hitting a hand in the box.
It won’t last either , mostly because you can’t trust refs to apply the ruling uniformly.
It’s either a zero tolerance policy once the whistle had gone, or scrap it.
Which they will.
'Can do about this' I meant
Saliba's red was harsh but just about acceptable. I don't agree with the rule being that extreme but that's a different discussion.
Tosin on salah was almost identical and got a yellow.
That is unacceptable to me.
This kind of blatant inconsistency is highly suspect but is it anything new?
Anyone remember the points deduction disparity after the man u brawl in 1990?
How about casting our minds back ito the 2000s during the 'it's OK to break arsenal players' legs because they're London softies' era.
The thing is, at the time, complaints from the club were treated with contempt and general mockery by the press and pundits.
So, I really don't know what the club about this.
It has to be legal action at this point. Everything else will be ignored.
Compile statistics, highlight and breakdown the most egregious incidents, and bring in experts on unconscious bias. Force the PL to defend PGMOL in a court of law. Make PGMOL too much of a liability for FA & PL. Sunshine is the best disinfectant.
If someone winds up dead, we’ll know it was corruption instead of (or in addition to) bias.
Or simply scrap PGMOL as not fit for purpose.Proven to be inconsistent ( on a regular basis) with their decision making. & request UEFA to assist with refereees or set up a new Professional body answerable to the prem only?
It will never happen.
Two reasons:
- Arsenal would be vilified by media , pundits and other clubs fans who usually believe it’s their own club that gets the short end of the stick.
- that type of litigation would take years to conclude ( see City case)
even if you could find a lawyer willing to represent you in a shit case like that.
'even if you could find a lawyer willing to represent you in a shit case like that"
It would be a laughable frivolous lawsuit but there won't be a shortage of legal firms billing 500/hr, with 10 man associates and para legal team, charging 5 bucks per xeroxed paper to process the case. They will probably try to schedule the suit for 2026 and bill 50,000 total hours until then.
Like they say, a fool is allergic to his money.
Scream like Banshees.They hate us anyway so what difference.aputs it out there.We’re fully aware what going on.
Perpetual victims anonymous
Rather than scream like banshees, why not say the serenity prayer and move on.
Diss.Bury your head in the sand all you like.We see it you don’t.Fair enough.
Forgot we got shaktar today. Perfect reaction would be a 2 goal HT lead. Let's go boys!!
Think everyone needs to move on from that game. Football is shit when Arsenal lose and I avoid as much of the negative BS as possible.
Tonight I’m off to the Shakhtar game and really looking forward to it. A win tonight puts us into serious contenders for top 8 and automatic entry to Round of 16.
COYG!
Quiz - I got 10/11, should have been 11/11, but there was disagreement on how to spell a last name.
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Tonight's fixture against Shakhtar Donetsk will be the Ukrainian side's second trip to our pocket of north London, with the first coming back in the year 2000 when we edged out a thriller.
We recovered from going 2-0 behind to battle back and win 3-2, thanks to a pair of goals from an unlikely source in Martin Keown - but can you recall his other teammates that night?
https://www.arsenal.com/news/quiz-name-our-team-beat-shakhtar-2000
I don’t think the game was on tv that night but I clearly recall listening to it on the radio. Was a great comeback and meant a lot because we had struggled and indeed failed to qualify from the group stages the previous two seasons.
I then went to the next CL game at Highbury against Lazio, in the days of their ‘super team’ and Ljungberg scored a brace. We won that and were as good as qualified.
Looking back we could have gone all the way that season in the CL with a bit more luck. We hammered Valencia at home in the quarter final in terms of chances but only won 2-1. We then went out on away goals. We would have had Leeds in the semi final and then faced the Bayern team who we were closely matched with (narrowly lost in group stage to them). It’s almost as big a regret as 03/04 when we probably should have at least got to the final.
Should have won it.Still makes me sick seeing Wayne Bridge & the chavs net the winner .Same year Maureen wins CL.A sickener.Wed have walked it.
"With the help of the AI-powered Opta supercomputer, we provide our UEFA Champions League match predictions for every game across 2024-25.
Arsenal didn’t concede a goal in their first two Champions League games this season, and they will be confident of recording a third clean sheet in a row at home to Shakhtar. They are the Opta supercomputer’s most confident pick on Tuesday, winning 81.3% of the 10,000 pre-match simulations. A win would be welcome ahead of a huge Premier League clash with Liverpool next weekend, especially after they suffered a shock domestic defeat at Bournemouth on Saturday."
https://theanalyst.com/2024/10/champions-league-match-predictions-2024-25-opta
Watched final minutes of the Cheaty game ...quite clearly the ref set his mind on gifting them the goal/ win, so fu*king obvious.... just as obvious when Var asked ther ref to go check replay on the monitor , I knew Saliba would be sent off. Fans bias and all. But it's go fu*king obvious. Btw, that iP**** nstitution wouldn't care less about undesired perception let's be honest
I understand the point about feeling aggrieved with ref decisions.
But in life, there are always things that are out of your control. You focus on what you can control.
If Martinelli is in a similar position to Evanilson and Van Dijk pulls him down, 90% of Arsenal fans will call for a red card.
We struggled to beat Southampton and Liecester at home with 11 men. We can't blame every points dropped on refs.
You wonder how anyone, talkless a gooner can say there was no bias in the past
Why do you think the unbeaten premier league match record is 49, not 50 or 51, 52, 53,…?
Ever seen another manager get sent off for kicking a water bottle?
Un na
Like I said you are a lying jackass until you recant that statement of “ There was no bias back then”
I bet you still have that white and black tv on, you nostalgia dolt.
If Pedro had been so personally invested in an Arsenal manager in the Wenger era as he is now Legrove would’ve made Untold Arsenal look like a sane place.
No bias back then lol.
The owners of both blogs have similar last names
Never mind that.
In good ol’ Tony’s defense half the league and pundits made it obvious they disliked Wenger for trying to drag them from their backwater ways into the future.
Didn’t Souness say Wenger wasn’t a real football man or something like that, while the rest of the panel nodded?!?!
Whatever road block Arteta’s facing now is a fucking child’s play.
Waah, waah, Oliver went to UAE and then reffed our game.
Ferguson , that prick, had refs personal phone numbers on speed dial and publicly banned certain refs from doing games at OT.
Fuck right off!!!
Can anyone honestly say we were hard done by Saturday? Stop the b/s naivety is costing us not corrupt officiating
Ok.Dave.Stick your head in the sand on the ref issue all I like.The PGMOL will continue unchecked.The naivety I agree with.
Alright Trigg, going to have a pop get the name right.