Jeff the dumb cunt who says he goes to at least ten games a season but cries if we don't win a game and has no understanding to why people think he is a dumb fuck. Last time you went to a game Ossie ardilles was playing for your team mate.
For a little boy, you like to swear don't you, also you're not well educated are you? I know Christmas has gone now, but get Mummy to buy you a dictionary and then you'll learn how to spell aspersions, let alone Ardiles. Typical Arteta bum bandit, anyone who doesn't blindly follow him like this individual is a Spud. Or a newbie "supporter" who didn't know football before 2019.
Or the constant nonsensical pathetic constant vitriol directed at Arteta and refusal to accept he's building something and owners see it and are onboard. You lot do understand the season goes on until May. 😉
'Dumbo' 😁. I cant reason with your kind. We're both 'fans' and yet polar opposites. I'd love to have a beer with the likes of you , Dissenter et all because so much is missed in forum like this.
I have a close mate who is spurs home and away and he said pep could go to spurs and they would find a way to screw up as spurs have ruined players and managers for the 45 years he has supported them
“I’ve been tracking xG Difference per game closely this season, as well as xG Difference as a whole.
Liverpool’s league per-game average of creating 1.46xG more than they’re conceding is only fractionally behind the best Man City sides; and now, also just ahead of the best Liverpool side of the xG-counting era (+1.45).”
Think it's highly disingenuous to even remotely suggest the club owners haven't backed Arteta, I mean common you can defend him in so many ways but not that he hasn't been backed financially
To be fair I have always been supportive to Arteta even though he has taken a mic with the money he had available to spend on new signing, I have questioned lots of his signing but Sterling being loaned was the end of my support for him, I have got the feeling that Arteta hasn't got a clue what players does he needs.
Why is our fan base so disingenuous as to why our transfer business is so slow this January
The DoF role is vacant at Arsenal, that’s common knowledge.
Jason Ayto was Edu’s protege, rapidly promoted and cannot have the full grasp of the job. He may know certain aspects that Edu let him work on but he has to learn on the job in the middle of crises.
Apart from the obvious injury crises we also have a lack of depth of deal making expertise in the back room.
I think also that we don't have lots of financial space to spend unlimited amounts of £££.
Until last summer, we barely sold anyone for a few seasons - Balogun, Guen, Xhaka, and Willock were our biggest sales - so we have to be careful with strict new financial rules they enforcing. We have been spending big until '24 summer when we clearly needed to sell some players to balance out all our previous purchases.
City are spending our entire summer budget on marmoush but Arteta is the real problem and not the club that handed him sterling on loan on deadline day. X factor in attack was mentioned in papers after last season's UCL exit against Bayern but Arteta really thought sterling was going to be the one to deliver that. Since he got close last season, that is all he needs.
Plus he isn't allowed to sign flops at all. Every signing must be a hit. And he he has to manage an injury crisis or injuries to very important players better than he is doing right now.
Ref's decisions that have only affected us doesn't matter. Because he has to make sure he is winning with 10 men.
Context doesn't matter. People want their candy, and they want it now. That is the mindset that will make Arsenal great.
How about some questions for owners who have failed to deliver one big trophy in our entire 20 plus year period with them? Don't give me they have invested crap, they have invested less than Spurs.
I agree that in hindsight Sterling's recruitment was a mistake. However his recruitment on loan was a calculated risk and low cost as we are paying only a third of his wages.
Arsenal are unlikely to renew is contract at the end of his loan.
The next question you need to ask is whether Nwaneri will become the understudy of
Saka or Odegaard next season. This is a very exciting young player with huge potential.
He is probably the best home grown talent since Fabregas.
Obviously he was not ready to play regularly in the starting lineup this season. However,
I would expect him to get more game time in season 2025-6.
Havertz will also come into the equation as an offensive midfield option if we recruit top
class striker.
It is unclear who was responsible for the decisions to recruit both Neto and Sterling. Clearly Arteta accepted the decision, but there is at moment too much blame game.
The experiment did not come off but the mistake is short term with no long term financial consequences.
“ Plus he isn't allowed to sign flops at all. Every signing must be a hit. And he he has to manage an injury crisis or injuries to very important players better than he is doing right now.”
It’s David vs Goliath
We won’t outspend city, I’m sure you know that. We have to be smart in our spending. That’s why we need a proper DoF
Not that we aren’t trying at all
We have a £105 million player, have at least 10 players earning more than 180k weekly and our manager is the second highest paid manager in world football.
I don't care about out spending City. I want us to go above and beyond to win. Arsenal is a big club. We should be able to spend 150m+ every summer. And at the very least not make a profit when we know we need to improve more.
Do you think any other club would spend 70m on two players and call it a day when they made 89 points and still didn't get the league title?
May be Levy at spurs. But not any of those other big clubs.
Do you remember I was talking about the club not backing Arteta in the summer?
I then realized that we had money to spend but our parameters for spending are set to avoid another Pepe situation. The owners literally have an attorney on the board to ensure good practices.
We had money to spend because we tried to sign Sesko and Nico Williams
Both of them have/had release clauses. In La Liga, that clause is laid in full.
We didn’t spend because we didn’t get the specific players that someone wanted.
Arteta doesn't want to spend because he didn't get a specific player doesn't fly when you hand him Trossard after Mudryk. Trying to get Caicedo when he really wanted Rice.
He wants the required quality. And that is down to owners who will get the required quality no matter what.
I'm curious Habesha what bothers you about the Sterling loan?
Do you think we were trying to get some other forward and the club said no, you will settle for Raheem or should no forwards have been brought in on loan at all.
My impression was that Arteta had no plans to acquire a forward last summer and Edu, or someone else, realized we needed some reinforcement and landed Sterling at last moment only because he was still available.
My impression was that Arteta had no plans to acquire a forward last summer and Edu, or someone else, realized we needed some reinforcement and landed Sterling at last moment only because he was still available
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This is wrong. He wanted Sesko. He wanted Nico Williams. He got Sterling.
And I don't agree with the fact that people think he is married to transfer targets. He will be and has been flexible when people bring him quality.
We targeted Caicedo when we actually wanted Rice. We got Jesus after the January with the Vlahovic rumors. We got Trossard instead of a pacy touch line winger in Mudryk.
Arteta has worked under Pep. He knows what it takes. And he definitely wants forwards.
United are listed in the US stock markets, they have different ways of making money. They are also a bigger global entity than us.
You’re being pretentious if you’re bringing in Chelsea into it because they have bent every rule to breaking point and become the joke of football for the past three seasons. They do sell very well.
Even spurs have more revenue because of their new stadium.
You’re acting like there’s nothing like UEFA and the Premier league don’t have some rules in place that restrict how much clubs can spend.
The Kroenkes are the problem because they haven’t learned from their Wenger error. They have replicated the same scenario with Arteta.
Maybe the Kroenkes finally have learned that giving money to Arteta to spend is wrong as he doesn't have a clue in how to assemble a balanced, competitive squad after spending nearly £0.8 billion since arrival?
What did they replicate with Arteta? He is doing what they want him to. Get enough results to stay in the UCL for them to make money.
No club in our position would have folded and would have spent last summer to go for the win. They have never cared about winning. And they never will.
Wenger had extraordinary powers, he wasn't unchecked by anyone until towards the end when Gazidis power grew and Wenger;s declined.
The set up was supposed to be a technical director working with the head coach. That’s what Pedro in particular, argued eloquently for for years.
As soon as Arteta won the FA cup, he started agitating; they made him manager, co-equal with the technical director, which is unheard of. It never works that way.
As he’s grown with relative success, so has his powers. Now he’s the last mans standing of the triad that hired him -Vinai, Edu and Huss Fahmy.
Now he’s gets to be INVOLVED in the hiring of the new DoF?
Right now who’s the footballing voice to check Arteta within the club?
So what? That doesn't make my point irrelevant. I too want a director of football that isn't completely aligned with Arteta.
But the point is we don't do enough when it matters. Nottingham Forrest have a better owner than us. A club in our position which needed more attacking X factor wouldn't nearly make a profit when we needed to win.
I have maintained many times that a league title winning team needs a starting line up with no
weakness and a bench, which can come into team without substantive reduction in performance.
Arsenal's priorities this summer has to be to replace Partey [DMF] and Havertz [CF] in starting
lineup. Havertz can of course play in a variety of positions. So he is a valuable member of squad
GOALKEEPER
We need a reasonably experienced second string goalkeeper in his prime. Neto is not that player.
DEFENCE
I am concerned about the injury record and/or performance level of Kiwior, Zinchenko, Tierney ,Calafiori and Tomiyasu. At least three need to be replaced.
MIDFIELD
Partey and Jorginho need to be replaced in squad next season. Zubimendi would be a decent
recruit. However, we need at least one additional attacking midfielder. That problem could be
resolved by Havertz reverting to that position.
ATTACK
This has been a problem all season. We lack a quality centre forward and we need also an
additional forward assuming that Jesus is out with a long term injury. So we need at least
two replacements in this department.
So in summation the club needs to recruit at least 6-7 new players this summer assuming
Spurs mounting a mini comeback that falls just short is great as it keeps Ange in a job.
The entertainment will keep rolling on and on.
Jeff the dumb cunt who says he goes to at least ten games a season but cries if we don't win a game and has no understanding to why people think he is a dumb fuck. Last time you went to a game Ossie ardilles was playing for your team mate.
Jog on clown
For a little boy, you like to swear don't you, also you're not well educated are you? I know Christmas has gone now, but get Mummy to buy you a dictionary and then you'll learn how to spell aspersions, let alone Ardiles. Typical Arteta bum bandit, anyone who doesn't blindly follow him like this individual is a Spud. Or a newbie "supporter" who didn't know football before 2019.
I am older than you I bet you daft weirdo. I have also been to over 1000 games man and boy.
Surprised you noticed me misspelling a name of an old spud through sniffing you fellas underpants.
Clown
Same to be dumped out of the cup by this very rubbish United team
Especially when the referee was dressed in Arsenal colors
Or the constant nonsensical pathetic constant vitriol directed at Arteta and refusal to accept he's building something and owners see it and are onboard. You lot do understand the season goes on until May. 😉
Does that apply to the nonsensical pathetic constant vitriol directed at the owners too, typically done by fans who want to deflect? 😉😉
Wah wah wah 😭
You want hankies for those hot tears
Yes please, mate.
'Dumbo' 😁. I cant reason with your kind. We're both 'fans' and yet polar opposites. I'd love to have a beer with the likes of you , Dissenter et all because so much is missed in forum like this.
Oooh that's cuts deep. You're right though. It would never happen. I'm assuming you'd get day release. 🙂
Were you 'hugged' too much as a child? 🤣
This is why I was afraid that the Andoni Iraola may end up at spurs
Spurs are going to sack Ange and the obvious replacement for them has to be Iraola.
I have a close mate who is spurs home and away and he said pep could go to spurs and they would find a way to screw up as spurs have ruined players and managers for the 45 years he has supported them
“I’ve been tracking xG Difference per game closely this season, as well as xG Difference as a whole.
Liverpool’s league per-game average of creating 1.46xG more than they’re conceding is only fractionally behind the best Man City sides; and now, also just ahead of the best Liverpool side of the xG-counting era (+1.45).”
The above from a Liverpool analyst Tomkins Times.
Or as raptora calls it lucky, lucky Liverpool.
Think it's highly disingenuous to even remotely suggest the club owners haven't backed Arteta, I mean common you can defend him in so many ways but not that he hasn't been backed financially
Expressions Oozing Goals ⚽⚽⚽
No matter what’s going on, always take a moment to laugh at Spurs 😂
Life time contract for big Ange as far as I’m concerned.
To be fair I have always been supportive to Arteta even though he has taken a mic with the money he had available to spend on new signing, I have questioned lots of his signing but Sterling being loaned was the end of my support for him, I have got the feeling that Arteta hasn't got a clue what players does he needs.
Spursy Sunday always eases the pain...😁
The absolute juggernaut of a club we beat 2:1 at home a few days back is losing to Everton 2 nil.
Positive Pete is probably scratching his head.
Silly boy- you probably think Sterling was a good loan deal., you know sfa.
Why is our fan base so disingenuous as to why our transfer business is so slow this January
The DoF role is vacant at Arsenal, that’s common knowledge.
Jason Ayto was Edu’s protege, rapidly promoted and cannot have the full grasp of the job. He may know certain aspects that Edu let him work on but he has to learn on the job in the middle of crises.
Apart from the obvious injury crises we also have a lack of depth of deal making expertise in the back room.
I think also that we don't have lots of financial space to spend unlimited amounts of £££.
Until last summer, we barely sold anyone for a few seasons - Balogun, Guen, Xhaka, and Willock were our biggest sales - so we have to be careful with strict new financial rules they enforcing. We have been spending big until '24 summer when we clearly needed to sell some players to balance out all our previous purchases.
City are spending our entire summer budget on marmoush but Arteta is the real problem and not the club that handed him sterling on loan on deadline day. X factor in attack was mentioned in papers after last season's UCL exit against Bayern but Arteta really thought sterling was going to be the one to deliver that. Since he got close last season, that is all he needs.
Plus he isn't allowed to sign flops at all. Every signing must be a hit. And he he has to manage an injury crisis or injuries to very important players better than he is doing right now.
Ref's decisions that have only affected us doesn't matter. Because he has to make sure he is winning with 10 men.
Context doesn't matter. People want their candy, and they want it now. That is the mindset that will make Arsenal great.
How about some questions for owners who have failed to deliver one big trophy in our entire 20 plus year period with them? Don't give me they have invested crap, they have invested less than Spurs.
I agree that in hindsight Sterling's recruitment was a mistake. However his recruitment on loan was a calculated risk and low cost as we are paying only a third of his wages.
Arsenal are unlikely to renew is contract at the end of his loan.
The next question you need to ask is whether Nwaneri will become the understudy of
Saka or Odegaard next season. This is a very exciting young player with huge potential.
He is probably the best home grown talent since Fabregas.
Obviously he was not ready to play regularly in the starting lineup this season. However,
I would expect him to get more game time in season 2025-6.
Havertz will also come into the equation as an offensive midfield option if we recruit top
class striker.
It is unclear who was responsible for the decisions to recruit both Neto and Sterling. Clearly Arteta accepted the decision, but there is at moment too much blame game.
The experiment did not come off but the mistake is short term with no long term financial consequences.
Oh please, this is some kind of below average argument like people are just piling up on the manager for no reason
“ Plus he isn't allowed to sign flops at all. Every signing must be a hit. And he he has to manage an injury crisis or injuries to very important players better than he is doing right now.”
It’s David vs Goliath
We won’t outspend city, I’m sure you know that. We have to be smart in our spending. That’s why we need a proper DoF
Not that we aren’t trying at all
We have a £105 million player, have at least 10 players earning more than 180k weekly and our manager is the second highest paid manager in world football.
I don't care about out spending City. I want us to go above and beyond to win. Arsenal is a big club. We should be able to spend 150m+ every summer. And at the very least not make a profit when we know we need to improve more.
Do you think any other club would spend 70m on two players and call it a day when they made 89 points and still didn't get the league title?
May be Levy at spurs. But not any of those other big clubs.
Do you remember I was talking about the club not backing Arteta in the summer?
I then realized that we had money to spend but our parameters for spending are set to avoid another Pepe situation. The owners literally have an attorney on the board to ensure good practices.
We had money to spend because we tried to sign Sesko and Nico Williams
Both of them have/had release clauses. In La Liga, that clause is laid in full.
We didn’t spend because we didn’t get the specific players that someone wanted.
Lol, this is hilarious.
Arteta doesn't want to spend because he didn't get a specific player doesn't fly when you hand him Trossard after Mudryk. Trying to get Caicedo when he really wanted Rice.
He wants the required quality. And that is down to owners who will get the required quality no matter what.
Initially you refused to admit we went after Nico Williams and Seso. You were asking for sources, remember?
You do know that release clauses on the continent ARE PAID IN FULL?
Like I asked you beige weeks ago
What were we going to use to pay for Sesko and Niko Williams in the summer?
Crypto-currencies?
Monopoly money?
We have money to spend
It’s about a certain individual who insisted on specific targets last summer and wouldn’t budge
Now that every one is desperate, there’s a problem with availability in January
We need bodies to get to the summer with at least CL qualification
If Arteta isn’t happy with it.
He can resign in the summer and leave his £15 million/yearly wages on the table
I'm curious Habesha what bothers you about the Sterling loan?
Do you think we were trying to get some other forward and the club said no, you will settle for Raheem or should no forwards have been brought in on loan at all.
My impression was that Arteta had no plans to acquire a forward last summer and Edu, or someone else, realized we needed some reinforcement and landed Sterling at last moment only because he was still available.
My impression was that Arteta had no plans to acquire a forward last summer and Edu, or someone else, realized we needed some reinforcement and landed Sterling at last moment only because he was still available
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This is wrong. He wanted Sesko. He wanted Nico Williams. He got Sterling.
And I don't agree with the fact that people think he is married to transfer targets. He will be and has been flexible when people bring him quality.
We targeted Caicedo when we actually wanted Rice. We got Jesus after the January with the Vlahovic rumors. We got Trossard instead of a pacy touch line winger in Mudryk.
Arteta has worked under Pep. He knows what it takes. And he definitely wants forwards.
‘ This is wrong. He wanted Sesko. He wanted Nico Williams.’
We tried to sign both players
Both players have release clauses that are typically paid in full
At least now you’re unwittingly admitting that we have money to spend.
it is not on the Kroenkes
It is on the Kroenkes.
The fact that he wanted both players and we didn't get them is on them.
This isn't the first time it has happened too. The only player we have won a race for is Declan Rice.
What if the players were not keen on his project or he couldn’t give the likes of Sesko assurances of starting?
You know you’re clutching desperately atm.
Those players could have said NO, the same way every initial backroom staff associated with the project jumped ship.
City have incredible income generated from their recent successes. They may have made as much as £100 million for winning the 2023 CL alone.
Even if you adjust their declared incomes for shenanigans, they have had more opportunities for more endorsements and commercial deals.
The simple answer to your question of “why” is that they have more money.
They make more money from deals, even from western companies
They make more money from sales and their academy is a money spinner [maybe they shouldn’t have sold the Rogers and Cole Palmers]
We will spend this January because even our CL qualification is at risk.
What about Man United and Chelsea who have been performing worse than us and spending a lot more?
United are listed in the US stock markets, they have different ways of making money. They are also a bigger global entity than us.
You’re being pretentious if you’re bringing in Chelsea into it because they have bent every rule to breaking point and become the joke of football for the past three seasons. They do sell very well.
Even spurs have more revenue because of their new stadium.
You’re acting like there’s nothing like UEFA and the Premier league don’t have some rules in place that restrict how much clubs can spend.
The Kroenkes are the problem because they haven’t learned from their Wenger error. They have replicated the same scenario with Arteta.
Maybe the Kroenkes finally have learned that giving money to Arteta to spend is wrong as he doesn't have a clue in how to assemble a balanced, competitive squad after spending nearly £0.8 billion since arrival?
What did they replicate with Arteta? He is doing what they want him to. Get enough results to stay in the UCL for them to make money.
No club in our position would have folded and would have spent last summer to go for the win. They have never cared about winning. And they never will.
Wenger had extraordinary powers, he wasn't unchecked by anyone until towards the end when Gazidis power grew and Wenger;s declined.
The set up was supposed to be a technical director working with the head coach. That’s what Pedro in particular, argued eloquently for for years.
As soon as Arteta won the FA cup, he started agitating; they made him manager, co-equal with the technical director, which is unheard of. It never works that way.
As he’s grown with relative success, so has his powers. Now he’s the last mans standing of the triad that hired him -Vinai, Edu and Huss Fahmy.
Now he’s gets to be INVOLVED in the hiring of the new DoF?
Right now who’s the footballing voice to check Arteta within the club?
So what? That doesn't make my point irrelevant. I too want a director of football that isn't completely aligned with Arteta.
But the point is we don't do enough when it matters. Nottingham Forrest have a better owner than us. A club in our position which needed more attacking X factor wouldn't nearly make a profit when we needed to win.
I have maintained many times that a league title winning team needs a starting line up with no
weakness and a bench, which can come into team without substantive reduction in performance.
Arsenal's priorities this summer has to be to replace Partey [DMF] and Havertz [CF] in starting
lineup. Havertz can of course play in a variety of positions. So he is a valuable member of squad
GOALKEEPER
We need a reasonably experienced second string goalkeeper in his prime. Neto is not that player.
DEFENCE
I am concerned about the injury record and/or performance level of Kiwior, Zinchenko, Tierney ,Calafiori and Tomiyasu. At least three need to be replaced.
MIDFIELD
Partey and Jorginho need to be replaced in squad next season. Zubimendi would be a decent
recruit. However, we need at least one additional attacking midfielder. That problem could be
resolved by Havertz reverting to that position.
ATTACK
This has been a problem all season. We lack a quality centre forward and we need also an
additional forward assuming that Jesus is out with a long term injury. So we need at least
two replacements in this department.
So in summation the club needs to recruit at least 6-7 new players this summer assuming
that a similar number leave the club.